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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: EMAWmeister on February 11, 2013, 10:08:17 PM
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Welp.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/world/asia/north-korea-seismic-disturbance/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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:runaway:
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Having a security council meeting to discuss what to do about one of the most sanctioned countries in the world.
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Relax, the UN is going to send them a strongly worded letter. :flush:
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Oh boy, can't wait for another perpetual war to help add a few more 0's to the deficit
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what's the actual dynamic between NK and China? If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?
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what's the actual dynamic between NK and China? If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?
China is NK's biggest trade partner but I know China has their worries about the nuke program
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what's the actual dynamic between NK and China? If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?
Think of it this way-
China and NK were next door neighbors growing up and best friends in Elementary school. NK was kinda small and always getting in fights so China took them under their wing and said "You mess with NK you mess with me"(China was bigger than alot of kids in the class). They would sing patriotic songs on the way home from school and dig ditches together on the weekends, best friends in the whole wide world.
Once they got to high school china started playing sports and hanging out with some of the cooler kids. They would still kick it with NK from time to time and have their back but they started to drift apart.
Now China is a senior in High School and a superstar on the football team. NK is still starting fights n stuff but now china is a little hesitant to have their back because they dont want to get kicked off the football team for fighting in school.
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what's the actual dynamic between NK and China? If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?
Think of it this way-
China and NK were next door neighbors growing up and best friends in Elementary school. NK was kinda small and always getting in fights so China took them under their wing and said "You mess with NK you mess with me"(China was bigger than alot of kids in the class). They would sing patriotic songs on the way home from school and dig ditches together on the weekends, best friends in the whole wide world.
Once they got to high school china started playing sports and hanging out with some of the cooler kids. They would still kick it with NK from time to time and have their back but they started to drift apart.
Now China is a senior in High School and a superstar on the football team. NK is still starting fights n stuff but now china is a little hesitant to have their back because they dont want to get kicked off the football team for fighting in school.
i have a cursory understanding of the relationship between China and North Korea.
My question remains, if NK nuked (again, very unlikely) SK or the US and either state's dramatically larger military retaliated in some way on NK soil, is it likely that China would involve itself?
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what's the actual dynamic between NK and China? If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?
Think of it this way-
China and NK were next door neighbors growing up and best friends in Elementary school. NK was kinda small and always getting in fights so China took them under their wing and said "You mess with NK you mess with me"(China was bigger than alot of kids in the class). They would sing patriotic songs on the way home from school and dig ditches together on the weekends, best friends in the whole wide world.
Once they got to high school china started playing sports and hanging out with some of the cooler kids. They would still kick it with NK from time to time and have their back but they started to drift apart.
Now China is a senior in High School and a superstar on the football team. NK is still starting fights n stuff but now china is a little hesitant to have their back because they dont want to get kicked off the football team for fighting in school.
i have a cursory understanding of the relationship between China and North Korea.
My question remains, if NK nuked (again, very unlikely) SK or the US and either state's dramatically larger military retaliated in some way on NK soil, is it likely that China would involve itself?
If NK nukes SK or USA, no China would not have their back
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As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
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My question remains, if NK nuked (again, very unlikely) SK or the US and either state's dramatically larger military retaliated in some way on NK soil, is it likely that China would involve itself?
If NK nukes SK or USA, no China would not have their back
thank you.
BUT WHAT IF THEY DID!? That would be so, so scary.
As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Agreed. Things aren't fair, but you know what? It's better to be on our side of it than their side. And i have little sympathy for North Korea.
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As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Seriously, if you don't like the United States, GTFO. No one is restricting you from leaving and joining the Taliban.
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:lol: as shallow as a wading pool. Sad
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As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Seriously, if you don't like the United States, GTFO. No one is restricting you from leaving and joining the Taliban.
Maybe he doesnt want to get hit with a drone strike?
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As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Seriously, if you don't like the United States, GTFO. No one is restricting you from leaving and joining the Taliban.
:sdeek:
I made sure to forward this post to the proper authorities regarding your involvement in recruiting Taliban fighters
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My question remains, if NK nuked (again, very unlikely) SK or the US and either state's dramatically larger military retaliated in some way on NK soil, is it likely that China would involve itself?
If NK nukes SK or USA, no China would not have their back
thank you.
BUT WHAT IF THEY DID!? That would be so, so scary.
As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Agreed. Things aren't fair, but you know what? It's better to be on our side of it than their side. And i have little sympathy for North Korea.
From a HuffPost article today......
China, which has shown signs of increasing exasperation with its neighbour, repeated calls for the "denuclearisation" of the Korean peninsula and urged its client state and others to react calmly, while pressing Pyongyang not to ramp up tension further, something the North had threatened in the run-up to the test.
"We strongly urge North Korea to abide by its non-nuclear commitment and not to take any further actions that would worsen the situation", it said in a statement.
China is a permanent member of the Security Council.
South Korea, still technically at war with the North after the 1950-53 civil war ended in a mere truce, said the size of the seismic activity indicated a nuclear explosion slightly larger than the North's two previous tests at 6-7 kilotons, although that is still relatively small. The Hiroshima bomb was around 20 kilotons.
The U.S. Geological Survey said that a seismic event measuring 5.1 magnitude had occurred on Tuesday, with North Korea later confirming the nuclear test.
"It was confirmed that the nuclear test that was carried out at a high level in a safe and perfect manner using a miniaturized and lighter nuclear device with greater explosive force than previously did not pose any negative impact on the surrounding ecological environment," KCNA said.
Despite China's tame response, it likely to be a major embarrassment for Beijing, the North's sole major economic and diplomatic ally.
"The test is hugely insulting to China, which now can be expected to follow through with threats to impose sanctions," said Mark Fitzpatrick of the International Institute for Strategic Studies think tank.
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Best option is convincing China to shoot down their next missile test for us.
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A belligerent NK means a larger U.S. military prescence, something China does not want while looking across at Taiwan and the territorial dispute with Japan.
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A belligerent NK means a larger U.S. military prescence, something China does not want while looking across at Taiwan and the territorial dispute with Japan.
Well then maybe China should keep a better eye on their Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin.
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A belligerent NK means a larger U.S. military prescence, something China does not want while looking across at Taiwan and the territorial dispute with Japan.
Well then maybe China should keep a better eye keep their Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin.
Yeah
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As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Agreed. Things aren't fair, but you know what? It's better to be on our side of it than their side. And i have little sympathy for North Korea.
Oh totally. But man, I would hate it SO much if I was from anywhere else.
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As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Agreed. Things aren't fair, but you know what? It's better to be on our side of it than their side. And i have little sympathy for North Korea.
Oh totally. But man, I would hate it SO much if I was from anywhere else.
I love it when other Americans show their ignorance by acting surprised or offended that a lot of non-Americans hate the US. The rest of the world has good reasons to hate us.
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NK is china's junkyard dog. They secretly support it and feign concern about its antics.
The seismic activity is probably caused by fracking in the US :lol:
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NK is china's junkyard dog. They secretly support it and feign concern about its antics.
The seismic activity is probably caused by fracking in the US :lol:
no. it would benefit china to not have a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)-cousin-junkyard-dog-with-a-nuke in their backyard, but they can't help liberate 25million north koreans without the billion or so oppressed at home asking some serious questions of their own.
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After reading most of the North Korea thread, I'm amazed they pulled it off. To quote Anchorman, that's impressive. I'm not even mad.
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As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Agreed. Things aren't fair, but you know what? It's better to be on our side of it than their side. And i have little sympathy for North Korea.
Oh totally. But man, I would hate it SO much if I was from anywhere else.
I love it when other Americans show their ignorance by acting surprised or offended that a lot of non-Americans hate the US. The rest of the world has good reasons to hate us.
Back in 2008 I was in the bathroom of a bar in Aarhus Denmark. Guy says to me "oh hey you're American." "Yep." "What do you think of George Bush?" "Well I voted for him, twice." "You're a rough ridin' bad person." "You're rough ridin' Danish." :lol:
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As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.
Agreed. Things aren't fair, but you know what? It's better to be on our side of it than their side. And i have little sympathy for North Korea.
Oh totally. But man, I would hate it SO much if I was from anywhere else.
I love it when other Americans show their ignorance by acting surprised or offended that a lot of non-Americans hate the US. The rest of the world has good reasons to hate us.
Back in 2008 I was in the bathroom of a bar in Aarhus Denmark. Guy says to me "oh hey you're American." "Yep." "What do you think of George Bush?" "Well I voted for him, twice." "You're a rough ridin' bad person." "You're rough ridin' Danish." :lol:
How did he know you're American? Were you dressed like this guy? Good answer to him though :lol:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi160.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft190%2FGLC79%2Fmerica.jpg&hash=1205c1742aece1550e38cef3576ea6ae9def4405)
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When I whipped it out I did the helicopter and chanted USA! USA! USA!
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Warm up the bombers, North Korea is the first nation to take a spin on the Drumpf wheel of destiny.
http://www.dw.com/en/north-korea-restarts-nuclear-reactor-used-to-fuel-weapons-program/a-37311109
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they've been preparing to test some fancy new missiles for a couple weeks now.
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Donald and Kim-Jong will get along great.
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Donald and Kim-Jong will get along great.
both very level headed and reasonable
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Why does Kim think Donald is an impotent weakling?!
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Donald will get the Dennis Rodman treatment when he visits Kim.