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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: kougar24 on January 30, 2013, 08:57:42 PM
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dominating this game :thumbs:
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he is on an assisting streak the likes of which kstate has never seen before in the entire history of kstate men's bball.
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Showing why it is so important he doesn't pick up stupid fouls. Stay in the game heaven sent Angel for cat fans.
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it should be obvious to all now that he is our most important player.
2 quick rod fouls? NBD
2 quick angel fouls? deth
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34 assists 4 TOs -- last 5 games
44 pts in last 4 games
#teamangel indeed
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34 assists 4 TOs -- last 5 games
stud :emawkid:
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The part of oscar's motion offense that has eally been good for angel is where they quit running motion and then people just set a high screen for him.
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I have seen people say we are going to suck next year. I think the weber haters want that but its not happening with angel running the show. Should be pretty good again the next couple of years barring transfers. Frank left a pretty good situation.
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I have seen people say we are going to suck next year. I think the weber haters want that but its not happening with angel running the show. Should be pretty good again the next couple of years barring transfers. Frank left a pretty good situation.
oscar making the tourney next year would be probably the best coaching job of his career.
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The part of oscar's motion offense that has eally been good for angel is where they quit running motion and then people just set a high screen for him.
:lol:
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I have seen people say we are going to suck next year. I think the weber haters want that but its not happening with angel running the show. Should be pretty good again the next couple of years barring transfers. Frank left a pretty good situation.
oscar making the tourney next year would be probably the best coaching job of his career.
You are overrating rod. Four starters back again likely all juniors and seniors in the starting lineup. Angel will be one of the best two pg's in the league. Should be another strong defensive team that will handle it well and hardly turn it over. Looks like an easy tourney team to me.
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I have seen people say we are going to suck next year. I think the weber haters want that but its not happening with angel running the show. Should be pretty good again the next couple of years barring transfers. Frank left a pretty good situation.
oscar making the tourney next year would be probably the best coaching job of his career.
I'll disagree. The first half after the first media timeout was dominated by next seasons starting lineup
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I have seen people say we are going to suck next year. I think the weber haters want that but its not happening with angel running the show. Should be pretty good again the next couple of years barring transfers. Frank left a pretty good situation.
oscar making the tourney next year would be probably the best coaching job of his career.
I'll disagree. The first half after the first media timeout was dominated by next seasons starting lineup
Texas is god awful right now, you know.
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I have seen people say we are going to suck next year. I think the weber haters want that but its not happening with angel running the show. Should be pretty good again the next couple of years barring transfers. Frank left a pretty good situation.
oscar making the tourney next year would be probably the best coaching job of his career.
You are overrating rod. Four starters back again likely all juniors and seniors in the starting lineup. Angel will be one of the best two pg's in the league. Should be another strong defensive team that will handle it well and hardly turn it over. Looks like an easy tourney team to me.
And you've went too far the other direction. We're losing 3 of our top 7. I don't think we will have a player to fill the scoring void left by Rod, but we can find the points if Shane, EMAPE will, Angel and Gip continue progressing. We'll need either Diaz or DJamer to make a fairly substantial leap up.
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I have seen people say we are going to suck next year. I think the weber haters want that but its not happening with angel running the show. Should be pretty good again the next couple of years barring transfers. Frank left a pretty good situation.
oscar making the tourney next year would be probably the best coaching job of his career.
I'll disagree. The first half after the first media timeout was dominated by next seasons starting lineup
Texas is god awful right now, you know.
Oh man I didn't, thank you for letting me know.
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Angel is wonderful to watch. A joy.
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Love him!
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art makes everyone better. he won't miss the tourney in his career.
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Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.
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art makes everyone better. he won't miss the tourney in his career.
Refuses to play in the NIT.
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needs to be a leader on the floor and in the classroom, last I checked he hasn't made academic big 12 squat
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Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.
Hasn't eclipsed Pullen, Clemente, or Beaz for me yet.
But there's still time.
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needs to be a leader on the floor and in the classroom, last I checked he hasn't made academic big 12 squat
That's valuable time he could be using to work on his 3 point jumpshot.
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Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.
Hasn't eclipsed Pullen, Clemente, or Beaz for me yet.
But there's still time.
beasley is still close. But he's far surpassed Pullen and clemente.
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Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.
Pfffft.
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Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.
Wow! Can't hate, just a bold statement. #TeamShane guns blazing.
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Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.
Hasn't eclipsed Pullen, Clemente, or Beaz for me yet.
But there's still time.
beasley is still close. But he's far surpassed Pullen and clemente.
Pullen is by far my favorite. I can't remember ever enjoying basketball as much as I did when he was around.
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Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.
If Angel ends up shooting .35+ from 3 his jr and sr year, then he will be my fav of all time.
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he's my favorite recruit of all time.
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needs to be a leader on the floor and in the classroom, last I checked he hasn't made academic big 12 squat
That's valuable time he could be using to work on his 3 point jumpshot.
Deuce nailed it. Priorities, after all. :)
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It's really conflicting that I love Angel so much yet everytime he steps up to take a 3, I cringe.
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It's really conflicting that I love Angel so much yet everytime he steps up to take a 3, I cringe.
you shouldn't.
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Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.
Yes. He will be our Steve Henson.
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Comparisons to sophomore year Jake are validated:
Advanced stats profile for Angel Rodriguez
Similar: '07 A.J. Price, '07 Dominic James, '10 Erving Walker, '11 Maalik Wayns, '09 Jacob Pullen
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Comparisons to sophomore year Jake are validated:
Advanced stats profile for Angel Rodriguez
Similar: '07 A.J. Price, '07 Dominic James, '10 Erving Walker, '11 Maalik Wayns, '09 Jacob Pullen
He's actually slipped a bit in that comparison (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25919.msg722609#msg722609); probably because his assist rate is going up (way up) while his 3PT shooting and TO% go down.
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Comparisons to sophomore year Jake are validated:
Advanced stats profile for Angel Rodriguez
Similar: '07 A.J. Price, '07 Dominic James, '10 Erving Walker, '11 Maalik Wayns, '09 Jacob Pullen
He's actually slipped a bit in that comparison (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25919.msg722609#msg722609); probably because his assist rate is going up (way up) while his 3PT shooting and TO% go down.
:thumbs:
I also thought it was cool that all of those names (except Walker; not sure what he's up to) are currently playing professional basketball :gocho:
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Angel is just 13 for his last 57 from 3pt land. He has been playing outstanding ball here of late, so his shooting can be overlooked some.
But it would be nice if he could just hit 33% of his long distant shots.
I keep saying it, but too many of his 3pt misses are because he is 2-3 feet behind the arc.
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Angel is just 13 for his last 57 from 3pt land. He has been playing outstanding ball here of late, so his shooting can be overlooked some.
But it would be nice if he could just hit 33% of his long distant shots.
I keep saying it, but too many of his 3pt misses are because he is 2-3 feet behind the arc.
And he's missing good shots, very few are forced. If he starts hitting 3s and continues his pace with assists and steals, he'll be a lock for all Big 12. In Big 12 games he's 2nd in steals and first in assists and way out in front in assist to TO ratio. And those traditional stats are what most of the people who vote for those things will look at.
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the only stat we should be worried about as it relates to angel are his assists. as long as those are up, his shooting % won't have an effect on the team one way or another.
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I'm not worried about his shooting...
but if he does hit 1/3 of his 3s...
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He made a guy fall down because his moves are so good. He missed the layup after that, but still, it was awesome.
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I'm not worried about his shooting...
but if he does hit 1/3 of his 3s...
Yep, he's very good right now, but would be great if he starts hitting from the outside.
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i don't think angel thinks of himself as a 3 point shooter, and he's not one. it's a part of his game he'll have to develop. at this point in his college career he's really just starting to solidify his given skill set (the one he brought to college), at the d1 level. dribble, dish, drive, creating scoring opportunities for others.
if i had my way, he'd strengthen his current skills today and polish his perimeter game throughout the summer and into next season. that would be my expectation anyway.
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i don't think angel thinks of himself as a 3 point shooter, and he's not one. it's a part of his game he'll have to develop. at this point in his college career he's really just starting to solidify his given skill set (the one he brought to college), at the d1 level. dribble, dish, drive, creating scoring opportunities for others.
if i had my way, he'd strengthen his current skills today and polish his perimeter game throughout the summer and into next season. that would be my expectation anyway.
:thumbs:
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i don't think angel thinks of himself as a 3 point shooter, and he's not one. it's a part of his game he'll have to develop. at this point in his college career he's really just starting to solidify his given skill set (the one he brought to college), at the d1 level. dribble, dish, drive, creating scoring opportunities for others.
if i had my way, he'd strengthen his current skills today and polish his perimeter game throughout the summer and into next season. that would be my expectation anyway.
I'm sure he knows that's not his main role, but he still shoots nearly 4 threes per game in Big 12 play. If he's open he's going to let it go. I'm good with that, but it would be nice if he was shooting better than 18.5%. That's not intended to be a major criticism of Angel, but if there is one thing about his game in Big 12 play (besides some of his fouls when they keep him off the floor) its that.
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Momma SK has a crush on Angel. Prefers him when he smiles though.
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His slow release cracks me up. I mean, they're good looks when he starts his shot, but by the time he rises & fires an hour and a half later, there's prob. someone in his face.
Don't care tho, go #teamangel!
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I wanted that spinning reverse flip layup to the hoop when he got fouled to go in so bad :shakesfist:
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I wanted that spinning reverse flip layup to the hoop when he got fouled to go in so bad :shakesfist:
That thing nearly defied physics.
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I don't really have a problem with Angel's poor 3 pt percentage because he's not trying to force 3's and he's just so good at everything else.
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It's really conflicting that I love Angel so much yet everytime he steps up to take a 3, I cringe.
I justify my cringing of angels 3s by thinking that when I have my son James Terry "insert my last name", and JT plays the glorious game of bbal, that I will cringe out of love cause I love him so much and want him to make it.
So don't be conflicted, just know your love of Angel has reached full potential.
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
felix is right, angel is my henson.
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
felix is right, angel is my henson.
yeah. people won't like the comparison because they are either gopowercat, tuck, racists or goEMAW, anti-Henson, bizzaro tucks, but I think their careers will be similar. Paricularly if Angel improves as a shooter.
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I wanted that spinning reverse flip layup to the hoop when he got fouled to go in so bad :shakesfist:
Shane loved that
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
This isn't a shot at your post, yosh, or even a shot at Will so please don't take it that way. I used to think 1000 points was a big deal, but I just realized that you can reach 1000 points in a four year career by averaging under 8 ppg. I think 1000 was a bigger deal before 30 game regular seasons.
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
This isn't a shot at your post, yosh, or even a shot at Will so please don't take it that way. I used to think 1000 points was a big deal, but I just realized that you can reach 1000 points in a four year career by averaging under 8 ppg. I think 1000 was a bigger deal before 30 game regular seasons.
This is an excellent point. Let's also remember that there were many years when freshmen couldn't play varsity ball, and their stats only counted for their soph, junior, and senior years. Those guys played JV games before the varsity games.
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
This isn't a shot at your post, yosh, or even a shot at Will so please don't take it that way. I used to think 1000 points was a big deal, but I just realized that you can reach 1000 points in a four year career by averaging under 8 ppg. I think 1000 was a bigger deal before 30 game regular seasons.
This is an excellent point. Let's also remember that there were many years when freshmen couldn't play varsity ball, and their stats only counted for their soph, junior, and senior years. Those guys played JV games before the varsity games.
Also, the addition of the 3pt shot for the ancients.
Conversely, 2,000 pts in career has become a mark of "I am a great college but not an NBA player" achievement.
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Shane and Angel have a shared spot at #1 in my heart at the moment.
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
Love me some Angelito & I love the chemistry he's developing with others (Shane mainly). You can tell they have 'it.'
Sprads may NOT take until the end of next year if he keeps breaking body parts. I liked his energy after the half the other night. He has plenty of ribs, right?
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If we could just find a way to develop a lob play from Angel to Shane that would allow Shane to violently DOB's, the world could end and I would be happy.
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
This isn't a shot at your post, yosh, or even a shot at Will so please don't take it that way. I used to think 1000 points was a big deal, but I just realized that you can reach 1000 points in a four year career by averaging under 8 ppg. I think 1000 was a bigger deal before 30 game regular seasons.
Yeah, but most people average 2 to 4 points as an underclassmen, then 15 to 18 as an upperclassmen. Very few do as the third or fourth scoring option for four years Lance Harris is the only other one I can remember, and he was a better scorer than Will. 1000 pts mark has deminished, but it's still not insignificant. At the very least it says you played a lot. Will might end up as the all time minutes leader if he stays healthy. Let that sink in for a minute.
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
This isn't a shot at your post, yosh, or even a shot at Will so please don't take it that way. I used to think 1000 points was a big deal, but I just realized that you can reach 1000 points in a four year career by averaging under 8 ppg. I think 1000 was a bigger deal before 30 game regular seasons.
This is an excellent point. Let's also remember that there were many years when freshmen couldn't play varsity ball, and their stats only counted for their soph, junior, and senior years. Those guys played JV games before the varsity games.
Agreed, still a cool milestone to achieve
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
This isn't a shot at your post, yosh, or even a shot at Will so please don't take it that way. I used to think 1000 points was a big deal, but I just realized that you can reach 1000 points in a four year career by averaging under 8 ppg. I think 1000 was a bigger deal before 30 game regular seasons.
Yeah, but most people average 2 to 4 points as an underclassmen, then 15 to 18 as an upperclassmen. Very few do as the third or fourth scoring option for four years Lance Harris is the only other one I can remember, and he was a better scorer than Will. 1000 pts mark has deminished, but it's still not insignificant. At the very least it says you played a lot. Will might end up as the all time minutes leader if he stays healthy. Let that sink in for a minute.
Most people? How about a few? I'll go with pretty much none. I can't remember a single basketball player who averaged 2-4 as a freshman and then 15-18 as an upperclassman. A 3 point average is horrible, a 16.5 average is very good. Name 2 and if you do tell us how long you had to search it.
I clearly didnt want to take a shot at will but since you're going to press me I'm gong to aim and fire. Will getting 1000 points doesn't mean anything other than Frank was awful at recruiting guards. Never has a 1000 point scorer been so pedestrian. Certainly within the annals of K-State basketball 1000 points has ever meant less. He is the fifth option when he is on the floor. Will eventually reaching that mark is the surest sign that its an arbitrary, useless milestone.
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Since they started tracking steals in '82, only two players have record at least 1000pts, 300ast, and 100 steals in their career for K-State. (Pullen and Henson) Incidentally, they both had accomplished this by the end of their Junior season. Angel will join them next year.
So will Spradling, though he'll be the only one of the four to take a full four years
This isn't a shot at your post, yosh, or even a shot at Will so please don't take it that way. I used to think 1000 points was a big deal, but I just realized that you can reach 1000 points in a four year career by averaging under 8 ppg. I think 1000 was a bigger deal before 30 game regular seasons.
Yeah, but most people average 2 to 4 points as an underclassmen, then 15 to 18 as an upperclassmen. Very few do as the third or fourth scoring option for four years Lance Harris is the only other one I can remember, and he was a better scorer than Will. 1000 pts mark has deminished, but it's still not insignificant. At the very least it says you played a lot. Will might end up as the all time minutes leader if he stays healthy. Let that sink in for a minute.
Most people? How about a few? I'll go with pretty much none. I can't remember a single basketball player who averaged 2-4 as a freshman and then 15-18 as an upperclassman. A 3 point average is horrible, a 16.5 average is very good. Name 2 and if you do tell us how long you had to search it.
I clearly didnt want to take a shot at will but since you're going to press me I'm gong to aim and fire. Will getting 1000 points doesn't mean anything other than Frank was awful at recruiting guards. Never has a 1000 point scorer been so pedestrian. Certainly within the annals of K-State basketball 1000 points has ever meant less. He is the fifth option when he is on the floor. Will eventually reaching that mark is the surest sign that its an arbitrary, useless milestone.
Wasn't trying to push you on Will. I will concede that Will Spradling will be the worst 1000 pt scorer of all time. Sorry you took it that way. If anthing I was defending the 1000 pt mark and saying Will is more of outlier becuase it was just a matter of getting an obsurd amount of minutes. I probably worded it poorly.
All I was getting at was that most 1000 pt scorers progress so their career average may not be great, but they have great years when their turn comes. Those numbers I threw out were probably a bit exagerated for effect, but, off the top of my head, Cartier and McGruder are both examples of players who progressed from barely contributing role players as freshman, to complimentary players as sophomores and stars as upperclassmen. I think of most career 1000 pt scorers this way. I can't think of a lot of players who come in and contribute 8ppg as a freshman and just stay there for 3 more years with either progressing or being recruited over.
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It's really conflicting that I love Angel so much yet everytime he steps up to take a 3, I cringe.
you shouldn't.
Still convinced I should.
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his maturation over this season makes me like his 3s even more. Usually a really great decision.
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It's really conflicting that I love Angel so much yet everytime he steps up to take a 3, I cringe.
you shouldn't.
Still convinced I should.
A couple of months ago i loved when he shot 3's. Now, not so much.
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Angel is an excellent point guard. Just great.
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He is absolutely amazing at everything except hitting 3's.
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Angel is a beautiful hero with game winning free throw ice veins. Total stud hero with infinity assists and no turnovers.
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Still convinced I should.
you're still wrong.
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Handled those FTs like they were no problem
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.suntimes.com%2Fforeignc%2Fglengarry_brass_balls260pix.jpg&hash=107fde7f543b6b63fe129a681bdb07055d4deef3)
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Still convinced I should.
you're still wrong.
3 of 21 in the past 5 games is concerning.
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Still convinced I should.
you're still wrong.
3 of 21 in the past 5 games is concerning.
It's a slump, he'll be fine. I hope he keeps gunning.
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Still convinced I should.
you're still wrong.
3 of 21 in the past 5 games is concerning.
It's a slump, he'll be fine. I hope he keeps gunning.
Yep, can't shoot yourself out of a slump if you're not shooting.
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Still convinced I should.
you're still wrong.
3 of 21 in the past 5 games is concerning.
It would be concerning from Rodney or Will (or now Shane).
But it's secondary for Angel, and while he's doing everything else fabulously, his outside shooting isn't really a "concern" at all.
He's by far the most important player on our team, and we're winning right now because he's playing awesomely.
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Shane and Angel have a shared spot at #1 in my heart at the moment.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2Fuploads%2F889%2F1360294.gif&hash=99fd63ac2fd7c13c358c721291539460cb3660b1)
:love:
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Handled those FTs like they were no problem
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.suntimes.com%2Fforeignc%2Fglengarry_brass_balls260pix.jpg&hash=107fde7f543b6b63fe129a681bdb07055d4deef3)
Holy crap just watched this movie for the first time today. Its like an engineer's nightmare about what being a salesman would be like
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Handled those FTs like they were no problem
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.suntimes.com%2Fforeignc%2Fglengarry_brass_balls260pix.jpg&hash=107fde7f543b6b63fe129a681bdb07055d4deef3)
Holy crap just watched this movie for the first time today. Its like an engineer's nightmare about what being a salesman would be like
What movie is it?
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Glengarry Glen Ross
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Still convinced I should.
you're still wrong.
3 of 21 in the past 5 games is concerning.
There is nothing more concerning than a PG who refuses to shoot the 3, though. If he isn't willing to shoot, the defense will just sag off, and Angel's dribble drives become a thing of the past. Angel just needs to keep shooting. I have faith that he can be a consistent 30% 3-point shooter.
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Glengarry Glen Ross
#coffeeis4closers
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I have faith that he can be a consistent 30% 3-point shooter.
better than that.
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Where's Angel? Did he get too much sand in his shoes on the way down?
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Where's Angel? Did he get too much sand in his shoes on the way down?
Jv is seeing action for real game experience
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My floor mates complain that he doesnt make layups. I dont kno if they are watching the same angel as me or not. I mean am i not seeing something
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My floor mates complain that he doesnt make layups. I dont kno if they are watching the same angel as me or not. I mean am i not seeing something
He misses quite a few inside shots. I wouldn't call them "layup" in the sense of them being easy buckets. Even still, it's pretty trivial when compared to his overall value to the team.
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I thought Angel had a bad game tonight, by Angel standards, anyway.
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I thought Angel had a bad game tonight, by Angel standards, anyway.
Tonight was like watching the anti-Angel. He shot it really well, but didn't facilitate...I WANT BOTH DAMMIT!
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I thought Angel had a bad game tonight, by Angel standards, anyway.
Tonight was like watching the anti-Angel. He shot it really well, but didn't facilitate...I WANT BOTH DAMMIT!
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Yeah he did the dumb angel things tonight. It's hard to convert people to team angel when he has a two game stretch like this
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a couple of those turnovers could have been called fouls too. glad he shot well.
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My prob with Angel last night was that he wasn't on the floor as much as I wanted him to be.
Also, Really wish we had Gray. :cry:
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Yeah he did the dumb angel things tonight. It's hard to convert people to team angel when he has a two game stretch like this
It shouldn't be hard. Only dumb people are resisting #teamangel at this point.
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Apparently oscar confirmed Angel's diseased knee today on 610. Said that they're going to hopefully get it fixed after the season.
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Apparently oscar confirmed Angel's diseased knee today on 610. Said that they're going to hopefully get it fixed after the season.
Isn't this like his third knee thing since hs?
Didn't he sit out his senior year practices and play only in games die to bad knees?
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Apparently oscar confirmed Angel's diseased knee today on 610. Said that they're going to hopefully get it fixed after the season.
Isn't this like his third knee thing since hs?
Didn't he sit out his senior year practices and play only in games die to bad knees?
yes, at least three (kstate reporting is so bad). yes, he had knee problems all sr. year.
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Apparently oscar confirmed Angel's diseased knee today on 610. Said that they're going to hopefully get it fixed after the season.
Isn't this like his third knee thing since hs?
Didn't he sit out his senior year practices and play only in games die to bad knees?
yes, at least three (kstate reporting is so bad). yes, he had knee problems all sr. year.
He seems to have learned to play with it for the most part. He does a nice job of making up for lateral quickness with change of tempo with the basketball. Hopefully the university gets him to a good doc in the off-season and we get healthy Angel next year, who leads us to a national championship single handedly.
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I just wish K-State would take our athletes away from this god forsaken hell hole of Manhattan orthopedics.
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I just wish K-State would take our athletes away from this god forsaken hell hole of Manhattan orthopedics.
I don't think I like your tone
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Angel is wonderful to watch. A joy.
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and in grey too, today was just a great day for art fans.
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Was amazing today. Huge.
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COMPLETE STUD! AND LIKE BFF WITH OUR GUY DANIEL TOO!
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Loved his I'm not a very good 3-point shooter but we need this one so I'm gonna go ahead and drain it moment, followed by a tiny shrug that said Yeah, of course it was going in, what did you think?
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Wish he shot more
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Wish he shot more
Yeah
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I was a bit surprised he got gassed tonight in the 2nd half, but he's great for us when he's on the floor. And with the knee discussion earlier, I think its obvious that he's not 100% and needs a break once in a while. Hopefully oscar can manage his minutes well with Tay down the stretch.
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Loved his I'm not a very good 3-point shooter but we need this one so I'm gonna go ahead and drain it moment, followed by a tiny shrug that said Yeah, of course it was going in, what did you think?
except he is a good three point shooter.
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29.4 percent for the season. Wouldn't call that "good." There's certainly room for improvement.
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Loved his I'm not a very good 3-point shooter but we need this one so I'm gonna go ahead and drain it moment, followed by a tiny shrug that said Yeah, of course it was going in, what did you think?
except he is a good three point shooter.
His knee's fiery Puerto Rican temper is sabotaging him. It always gets real fiery when art is shooting 3's.
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Loved his I'm not a very good 3-point shooter but we need this one so I'm gonna go ahead and drain it moment, followed by a tiny shrug that said Yeah, of course it was going in, what did you think?
except he is a good three point shooter.
Not right now he's not. But he still needs to keep shooting (and even more, like mich said).
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Its hard to say he's shooting well from 3, but he's potentially a good 3 pt shooter I suppose. Currently less than 25% in Big 12 games. But he does so many other things well it doesn't matter that much.
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He passed up a couple shots a 25% three point shooter should take today. I'd like more shots off the bounce, though, too.
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how about rodney leading the team in points, assists, and steals today? stud
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29.4 percent for the season. Wouldn't call that "good." There's certainly room for improvement.
he's not shooting well on the season, but he's a good shooter. different things.
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How Zen.
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How Zen.
there's nothing zen about it. it's just a rational distinction. like if a cheetah is walking tiredly in the sun, you don't say that's a slow cat, you say that's a cat that's walking slowly.
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How Zen.
there's nothing zen about it. it's just a rational distinction. like if a cheetah is walking tiredly in the sun, you don't say that's a slow cat, you say that's a cat that's walking slowly.
Points for creativity, but that analogy doesn't really fit the bill. Angel was a 31.7% 3pt shooter a year ago.
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29.4 percent for the season. Wouldn't call that "good." There's certainly room for improvement.
he's not shooting well on the season, but he's a good shooter. different things.
The question becomes how good can he be?
Judging by the 27.6% he's hit in 28 Big 12 games over 2 seasons, I'd say Angel making 1/3 of his 3s would be pretty good.
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I think his 3-point shooting will improve significantly as a junior and senior. Running the point as a young player probably hurt his percentage. But being a good 3-point shooter is quantitative not subjective. And 33.3 percent is the bottom.
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The question becomes how good can he be?
Judging by the 27.6% he's hit in 28 Big 12 games over 2 seasons, I'd say Angel making 1/3 of his 3s would be pretty good.
he's better than that. he's hitting 80% of fts and was hitting 75+% for much of last year before fading later in the season. ft shooting is the best measure of shooting ability, so we can safely conclude that he's a good shooter. it's much more subjective, but just looking at his shooting form, he gives the appearance of fine shooter. he also evidences range, which indicates shooting ability. finally, i haven't seen hs % stats, but he certainly put up scoring numbers, which at his size is hard to do without hitting from outside.
translating the ft% to in-game three point shooting, you'd expect him to suffer a little because he has a slow release and needs more space than many shooters. accordingly he's going to shoot more from farther out, and more closely contested shots than might otherwise be the case. his height also contributes to that. still, i expect him to finish at 33% or so this year. in the coming two years, i expect a minimum of about 35% on 200 attempts, adding about 1% to his average for every 30 or so attempts less than 200 that he takes.
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The question becomes how good can he be?
Judging by the 27.6% he's hit in 28 Big 12 games over 2 seasons, I'd say Angel making 1/3 of his 3s would be pretty good.
he's better than that. he's hitting 80% of fts and was hitting 75+% for much of last year before fading later in the season. ft shooting is the best measure of shooting ability, so we can safely conclude that he's a good shooter. it's much more subjective, but just looking at his shooting form, he gives the appearance of fine shooter. he also evidences range, which indicates shooting ability. finally, i haven't seen hs % stats, but he certainly put up scoring numbers, which at his size is hard to do without hitting from outside.
translating the ft% to in-game three point shooting, you'd expect him to suffer a little because he has a slow release and needs more space than many shooters. accordingly he's going to shoot more from farther out, and more closely contested shots than might otherwise be the case. his height also contributes to that. still, i expect him to finish at 33% or so this year. in the coming two years, i expect a minimum of about 35% on 200 attempts, adding about 1% to his average for every 30 or so attempts less than 200 that he takes.
If you're right, the next two years will be very fun.
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Too much?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi133.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq45%2Fkougar24%2FKState%2Fteamangel_zpsc9e816ed.png&hash=5be494e967fc159fcc6feb005defb10f78dc0206)
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I think it's glorious.
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Not bad, not bad at all.
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OMG :love:
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Too much?
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Just thought he earned a little something.
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Too much?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi133.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq45%2Fkougar24%2FKState%2Fteamangel_zpsc9e816ed.png&hash=5be494e967fc159fcc6feb005defb10f78dc0206)
Just thought he earned a little something.
Definitely. Well earned. :)
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angel reminds me a lot of luis mendoza from mighty ducks 2.
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good work, kougs
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good work, kougs
Aw, thanks Yardstick.
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Too much?
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Not enough.
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Too much?
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Not enough.
well then
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anything more adorable then when kougs methodically bumps his own threads, prob not
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anything more adorable then when kougs methodically bumps his own threads, prob not
it's up there in terms of adorableness, i'll admit.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC2N3YdCIAAN6aB.jpg:large)
:D
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Oh wow. :love:
He is just never-ending adorableness.
:D
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A FINE young man
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC2N3YdCIAAN6aB.jpg:large)
:D
Who is Shane hitting on back there?
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Holly?
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Holly, duh
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Holly, duh
Only if she's lost weight recently.
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Does look Rowesque
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Holly, duh
Only if she's lost weight recently.
okay fitz pfffft
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can confirm Angel likes ice cold strawberry lemonade to go along with his medium well steaks :ksu:
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Angel is so buff :love: also look at my girl Holly back there stuntin
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DOUBLE DOUBLE-DOWN