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Title: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 26, 2013, 04:59:01 PM
Had a great shot to at least go 1-1 this week.    Hold Ku to 59 pts and then shoot 57% eFG vs the Clonies and cant win either

Texas and at OU this week.    Gotta find a way to still have 2 conf losses come next Saturday night

Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: EMAWzified on January 26, 2013, 08:03:43 PM
No way we win at OU.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kso_FAN on January 26, 2013, 08:24:42 PM
Next week is important if we want separation to get into the Top 3 or 4 of the league. 1-1 doesn't destroy the season (neither did tonight's loss in Ames). But 2-0 creates separation with OU and keeps us at pace with BU and ISU. These are the games that work us out of the 7-9 lines when it comes to seeding in March.

Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: JKEYS on January 26, 2013, 08:36:38 PM
Next three games are must wins if we want to hold out hope for a 6 seed or higher.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: MakeItRain on January 26, 2013, 09:22:49 PM
Next three games are must wins if we want to hold out hope for a 6 seed or higher.

You're talking about the NCAA tournament, right?
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: JKEYS on January 26, 2013, 10:26:45 PM
Next three games are must wins if we want to hold out hope for a 6 seed or higher.

You're talking about the NCAA tournament, right?

Yep.  Six seed or better in the NCAA's and 3rd or better in confy.  Gotta win the next three...
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 27, 2013, 01:27:15 AM
Yes.  12-6 is still very doable.  Our chances of getting that 6 seed are pretty good with 12 wins and 1 in the B12 tourney
Get 2 wins next week and that 12 win plateau looks oh so attainable.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2013, 07:43:09 PM
Yes.  12-6 is still very doable.  Our chances of getting that 6 seed are pretty good with 12 wins and 1 in the B12 tourney
Get 2 wins next week and that 12 win plateau looks oh so attainable.

Yes, 12-6 should be fine. We went 4-2 in our first 6. We have 2 more groups of 6 games, the question becomes how doable are 4-2 marks in each stretch?

UT, @OU, @Tech, ISU, @KU, BU.

4-2 looks very doable, and 5-1 is possible. Likely loss @KU, maybe @OU. Every other game we'll be favored and should win.

WVU, @UT, Tech, @BU, TCU, @OSU

The 3 worst teams in the league at home, a loss in any of those is unacceptable. 3 reasonably tough road games, not winning at least 1 would be very disappointing. Very possible to win 2.

I'd say 11-7 would be worst case, 12-6 should be expected, and 13-5 is very reasonable. If we are the team we hope to be anyway, and playing in a league that has some good teams, but nobody besides KU is a legit Top 10 team.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kougar24 on January 28, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Baylor swept us.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 28, 2013, 01:02:34 PM
The game in Norman is big.  Get that win and its very possible we are sitting at 8-2 in 2 wks
Then those 3 gimme wins at home. That would be 11 wins.
Baylor (home) Texas, Osu, Baylor (road) .....get 1 of those and u get 12.
13 wins is the ceiling. Getting that would be a pleasant surprise


8-1 at home would be great but always a chance Baylor could get us at home. Just be pissed if its someone else beating us in the OOD.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 01:07:54 PM
The game in Norman is big.  Get that win and its very possible we are sitting at 8-2 in 2 wks
Then those 3 gimme wins at home. That would be 11 wins.
Baylor (home) Texas, Osu, Baylor (road) .....get 1 of those and u get 12.
13 wins is the ceiling. Getting that would be a pleasant surprise


8-1 at home would be great but always a chance Baylor could get us at home. Just be pissed if its someone else beating us in the OOD.


I want to see more of Baylor before I get too worried about them. They have impressive Big 12 defensive numbers, but they also have played TCU twice, Tech once, and UT once; the worst 3 offenses (efficiency) in the league. OSU was a solid win, but that's a 3-3 Big 12 team and the #6 offense.

Winning in Norman would be a significant step, but a loss doesn't destroy the season.

They key is winning out at home (not easy by any means) and winning the road games against the bottom 4 (already beat WVU, TCU, now need to get Tech and UT). Then steal one more road win (OSU, OU, or BU).
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: AbeFroman on January 28, 2013, 01:22:04 PM
Lon is going to eff us without a kiss first.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: pissclams on January 28, 2013, 01:28:37 PM
The game in Norman is big.  Get that win and its very possible we are sitting at 8-2 in 2 wks
Then those 3 gimme wins at home. That would be 11 wins.
Baylor (home) Texas, Osu, Baylor (road) .....get 1 of those and u get 12.
13 wins is the ceiling. Getting that would be a pleasant surprise


8-1 at home would be great but always a chance Baylor could get us at home. Just be pissed if its someone else beating us in the OOD.


baylor is a horrible match up for us. 
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kougar24 on January 28, 2013, 01:33:01 PM
The game in Norman is big.  Get that win and its very possible we are sitting at 8-2 in 2 wks
Then those 3 gimme wins at home. That would be 11 wins.
Baylor (home) Texas, Osu, Baylor (road) .....get 1 of those and u get 12.
13 wins is the ceiling. Getting that would be a pleasant surprise


8-1 at home would be great but always a chance Baylor could get us at home. Just be pissed if its someone else beating us in the OOD.


baylor is a horrible match up for us. 

Indeed.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 01:33:08 PM
FWIW:

Final Record   Expected RPI   Probability
26-4   12.0   0.01%
25-5   13.3   0.30%
24-6   18.0   2.78%
23-7   23.7   10.66%
22-8   30.6   20.63%
21-9   38.4   26.57%
20-10   46.8   22.39%

19-11   56.7   12.11%
18-12   67.9   3.64%
17-13   81.3   0.84%
16-14   96.8   0.05%
15-15   116.0   0.01%
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 01:33:47 PM
baylor is a horrible match up for us. 

I will conceed they are more talented, but I think I probably view Baylor a bit like you view Iowa State.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: deputy dawg on January 28, 2013, 02:07:53 PM
LLoyd Noble center is quiet as a graveyard when the Thunder is in town, but furk, Thunder is in Cleveland. 
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kougar24 on January 28, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
LLoyd Noble center is quiet as a graveyard when the Thunder is in town, but furk, Thunder is in Cleveland. 

Please. Lloyd Noble is a graveyard all the time. It was never loud even before the Thunder existed.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 28, 2013, 02:49:45 PM
If we could somehow go 4-0 before traveling east for our annual beating in AFH that would be HUGE
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: yosh on January 28, 2013, 03:38:04 PM
FWIW:

Final Record   Expected RPI   Probability
26-4   12.0   0.01%
25-5   13.3   0.30%
24-6   18.0   2.78%
23-7   23.7   10.66%
22-8   30.6   20.63%
21-9   38.4   26.57%
20-10   46.8   22.39%

19-11   56.7   12.11%
18-12   67.9   3.64%
17-13   81.3   0.84%
16-14   96.8   0.05%
15-15   116.0   0.01%

This makes no sense.  Weren't we 11-2 in the noncon?  How can we finish with 30 games?   :confused: 
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: ChiComCat on January 28, 2013, 03:45:06 PM
FWIW:

Final Record   Expected RPI   Probability
26-4   12.0   0.01%
25-5   13.3   0.30%
24-6   18.0   2.78%
23-7   23.7   10.66%
22-8   30.6   20.63%
21-9   38.4   26.57%
20-10   46.8   22.39%

19-11   56.7   12.11%
18-12   67.9   3.64%
17-13   81.3   0.84%
16-14   96.8   0.05%
15-15   116.0   0.01%

This makes no sense.  Weren't we 11-2 in the noncon?  How can we finish with 30 games?   :confused: 

May not of counted a Fort Hays win or whatever lower level team we played
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: nicname on January 28, 2013, 03:55:04 PM
I think Cats have best chance of BU, KSU, OU,ISU and OSU to win both games this week.  I hope they can do it.
Title: Re: Next week is pretty important now IMO
Post by: kso_FAN on January 28, 2013, 04:20:45 PM
FWIW:

Final Record   Expected RPI   Probability
26-4   12.0   0.01%
25-5   13.3   0.30%
24-6   18.0   2.78%
23-7   23.7   10.66%
22-8   30.6   20.63%
21-9   38.4   26.57%
20-10   46.8   22.39%

19-11   56.7   12.11%
18-12   67.9   3.64%
17-13   81.3   0.84%
16-14   96.8   0.05%
15-15   116.0   0.01%

This makes no sense.  Weren't we 11-2 in the noncon?  How can we finish with 30 games?   :confused: 

May not of counted a Fort Hays win or whatever lower level team we played

This. Most true RPI sites don't count non-D1 wins. That is from rpiforecast.