to good basketball we've come to love.
Rebounding
Getting to the line
Isolating best players to make plays
Coaching to win games within a possession with a few seconds left
disagreeto good basketball we've come to love.
Rebounding
Getting to the line
Isolating best players to make plays
Coaching to win games within a possession with a few seconds left
Frank was only good at 2 of those things fwiw
Guys, I don't think our players like playing for him. Specifically Angel, Gipson, Diaz, Nino and JO
Some. Until I think about it and then i just hate oscar even more.Gots or even Undies would have been able to take this team and win at Ames.
Guys, I don't think our players like playing for him. Specifically Angel, Gipson, Diaz, Nino and JO
Only one name on that list matters
Guys, I don't think our players like playing for him. Specifically Angel, Gipson, Diaz, Nino and JO
Only one name on that list matters
Do you remember non-con Nino? He's a player just in a funk right now
to good basketball we've come to love.
Rebounding
Getting to the line
Isolating best players to make plays
Coaching to win games within a possession with a few seconds left
Frank was only good at 2 of those things fwiw
I'd also love to know who oscar should be isolating other than Angel
I'd also love to know who oscar should be isolating other than Angel
southie had a couple nice isos. though the guy defending him was a lol defender.
At least 2 of Shane's isos came when ISU switched and he ended up with a guard on him, so he backed him down and shot over him.
It is going to be a monumental battle to not finish dead last next season.
Frank was 4-1 in Ames, fwiw.
Dax is so excited to argue that he's taking an edn post and using it for more anti-Frank rhetoric. Sad and hilarious.
Today's game didn't affect my opinion on oscar, and it shouldn't have affected anyone else's. oscar made some decisions that are fun to laugh at (sitting Angel with 45 seconds left, for example), but they probably didn't cost us the game.
Frankites are attempting to revise history as they always do.
No denied . . . there's nothing as sad as a bunch of Frankites coming on here to bitch and talk about how Weber is taking all the toughness out of the team, and how fantastic Frank was closing out games . . . and right there in archives is a shining example of a crap job of closing out a game at ISU last year, and then the living definition of not being tough, and having some of the worst defensive floor recognition in the history of basketball against ISU in Manhattan last year.
Today's game didn't affect my opinion on oscar, and it shouldn't have affected anyone else's. oscar made some decisions that are fun to laugh at (sitting Angel with 45 seconds left, for example), but they probably didn't cost us the game.
Yes that was very weird. He sat Angel defensively when he had been sitting Will in that same spot since conference play started, I was like wtf :confused:
He must have REALLY wanted no one to foul
Today's game didn't affect my opinion on oscar, and it shouldn't have affected anyone else's. oscar made some decisions that are fun to laugh at (sitting Angel with 45 seconds left, for example), but they probably didn't cost us the game.
Yes that was very weird. He sat Angel defensively when he had been sitting Will in that same spot since conference play started, I was like wtf :confused:
He must have REALLY wanted no one to foul
The look on his face when the refs told him "Oops, we messed up, you really only have 6 seconds left in the game -- maybe you should have fouled" :lol:
So we've established Frankite MIR and others have a really shitty memories. Time to put down the bongs fellas.
Here's another "outlier" late game meltdown/collapse.
Score by Periods 1st 2nd Total
Oklahoma 34 29 63 Record: (13-7 (3-5))
Kansas State 28 32 60 Record: (15-5 (4-4))
TURNOVR by Henriquez, Jordan 00:23
00:22 STEAL by Grooms, Sam
SUB IN : 02 00:18
SUB OUT: Ojeleye, Victor 00:18
FOUL by Irving, Martavious (P4T12) 00:09 58-60 V 2 GOOD! FT SHOT by Osby, Romero
00:09 58-61 V 3 GOOD! FT SHOT by Osby, Romero
00:09 SUB IN : Blair, Carl
00:09 SUB OUT: Pledger, Steven
GOOD! FT SHOT by Henriquez, Jordan 00:05 59-61 V 2 FOUL by Fitzgerald, Andrew (P5T12)
GOOD! FT SHOT by Henriquez, Jordan 00:05 60-61 V 1
FOUL by Spradling, Will (P1T13) 00:05 60-62 V 2 GOOD! FT SHOT by Grooms, Sam
00:05 60-63 V 3 GOOD! FT SHOT by Grooms, Sam
00:05 SUB IN : Pledger, Steven
00:05 SUB IN : Washington, C.J.
00:05 SUB IN : Neal, Tyler
00:05 SUB OUT: Fitzgerald, Andrew
00:05 SUB OUT: Blair, Carl
00:05 SUB OUT: Clark, Cameron
MISSED 3 PTR by McGruder, Rodney 00:01 REBOUND (DEF) by (DEADBALL)
SUB IN : Ojeleye, Victor 00:00 SUB IN : Clark, Cameron
SUB OUT: Irving, Martavious 00:00 SUB OUT: Neal, Tyler
SUB OUT: Henriquez, Jordan 00:00
So we've established Frankite MIR and others have a really shitty memories. Time to put down the bongs fellas.
Here's another late game meltdown/collapse.
Score by Periods 1st 2nd Total
Oklahoma 34 29 63 Record: (13-7 (3-5))
Kansas State 28 32 60 Record: (15-5 (4-4))
TURNOVR by Henriquez, Jordan 00:23
00:22 STEAL by Grooms, Sam
SUB IN : 02 00:18
SUB OUT: Ojeleye, Victor 00:18
FOUL by Irving, Martavious (P4T12) 00:09 58-60 V 2 GOOD! FT SHOT by Osby, Romero
00:09 58-61 V 3 GOOD! FT SHOT by Osby, Romero
00:09 SUB IN : Blair, Carl
00:09 SUB OUT: Pledger, Steven
GOOD! FT SHOT by Henriquez, Jordan 00:05 59-61 V 2 FOUL by Fitzgerald, Andrew (P5T12)
GOOD! FT SHOT by Henriquez, Jordan 00:05 60-61 V 1
FOUL by Spradling, Will (P1T13) 00:05 60-62 V 2 GOOD! FT SHOT by Grooms, Sam
00:05 60-63 V 3 GOOD! FT SHOT by Grooms, Sam
00:05 SUB IN : Pledger, Steven
00:05 SUB IN : Washington, C.J.
00:05 SUB IN : Neal, Tyler
00:05 SUB OUT: Fitzgerald, Andrew
00:05 SUB OUT: Blair, Carl
00:05 SUB OUT: Clark, Cameron
MISSED 3 PTR by McGruder, Rodney 00:01 REBOUND (DEF) by (DEADBALL)
SUB IN : Ojeleye, Victor 00:00 SUB IN : Clark, Cameron
SUB OUT: Irving, Martavious 00:00 SUB OUT: Neal, Tyler
SUB OUT: Henriquez, Jordan 00:00
Games like today happened regularly during the Frank Martin tenure.
I guess you missed the idiotic comment about Frank's ability to close out games, and games like today were an "outlier", yet I am in the process of blowing that idiotic comment out of the water. Games like today happened regularly during the Frank Martin tenure.
Score by Periods 1st 2nd Total
Colorado...................... 33 41 - 74
Kansas State.................. 33 33 - 66
FOUL by Roberson, Andre (P4T11) 08:47 41-43 V 2 GOOD! FT SHOT by McGruder, Rodney
08:47 41-44 V 3 GOOD! FT SHOT by McGruder, Rodney
SUB IN : Mills, Ben 08:47 SUB IN : Russell, Nick
SUB OUT: Dufault, Austin 08:47 SUB IN : Ojeleye, Victor
08:47 SUB IN : Samuels, Jamar
08:47 SUB OUT: Henriquez-Roberts,J
08:47 SUB OUT: Irving, Martavious
GOOD! 3 PTR by Knutson, Levi 08:19 44-44 T 5
ASSIST by Higgins, Cory 08:19
07:39 44-47 V 3 GOOD! 3 PTR by Spradling, Will
07:39 ASSIST by Pullen, Jacob
07:18 FOUL by Pullen, Jacob (P3T9)
TIMEOUT MEDIA 07:18
GOOD! FT SHOT by Higgins, Cory 07:18 45-47 V 2
GOOD! FT SHOT by Higgins, Cory 07:18 46-47 V 1
SUB IN : Dufault, Austin 07:18 SUB OUT: Ojeleye, Victor
SUB OUT: Mills, Ben 07:18
REBOUND (DEF) by Roberson, Andre 06:51 MISSED LAYUP by Pullen, Jacob
GOOD! JUMPER by Higgins, Cory 06:21 48-47 H 1
05:49 TURNOVR by Russell, Nick
SUB IN : Relphorde, Marcus 05:49 SUB IN : Irving, Martavious
SUB IN : Burks, Alec 05:49 SUB OUT: Russell, Nick
SUB OUT: Sharpe, Shannon 05:49
SUB OUT: Roberson, Andre 05:49
MISSED 3 PTR by Higgins, Cory 05:18 REBOUND (DEF) by Pullen, Jacob
BLOCK by Higgins, Cory 05:12 MISSED LAYUP by McGruder, Rodney
05:11 REBOUND (OFF) by (TEAM)
SUB IN : Roberson, Andre 05:09
SUB OUT: Knutson, Levi 05:09
FOUL by Relphorde, Marcus (P5T12) 05:08 48-48 T 6 GOOD! FT SHOT by Spradling, Will
REBOUND (DEF) by Burks, Alec 05:08 MISSED FT SHOT by Spradling, Will
SUB IN : Sharpe, Shannon 05:08
SUB OUT: Relphorde, Marcus 05:08
MISSED JUMPER by Burks, Alec 04:39
REBOUND (OFF) by Roberson, Andre 04:39
MISSED 3 PTR by Burks, Alec 04:07 REBOUND (DEF) by McGruder, Rodney
03:55 TIMEOUT media
03:55 SUB IN : Kelly, Curtis
03:55 SUB OUT: Irving, Martavious
FOUL by Roberson, Andre (P5T13) 03:31 MISSED FT SHOT by Pullen, Jacob
03:31 REBOUND (OFF) by (DEADBALL)
REBOUND (DEF) by Higgins, Cory 03:31 MISSED FT SHOT by Pullen, Jacob
GOOD! JUMPER by Higgins, Cory 03:04 50-48 H 2
02:35 50-51 V 1 GOOD! 3 PTR by Pullen, Jacob
02:35 ASSIST by Samuels, Jamar
GOOD! LAYUP by Dufault, Austin [PNT] 02:12 52-51 H 1
ASSIST by Burks, Alec 02:12
BLOCK by Dufault, Austin 01:44 MISSED LAYUP by Kelly, Curtis
01:43 REBOUND (OFF) by Samuels, Jamar
REBOUND (DEF) by Burks, Alec 01:41 MISSED 3 PTR by Spradling, Will
TURNOVR by Burks, Alec 01:38
TIMEOUT 30sec 01:38
SUB IN : Knutson, Levi 01:37
SUB OUT: Roberson, Andre 01:37
01:22 52-53 V 1 GOOD! DUNK by Samuels, Jamar [PNT]
01:22 ASSIST by Spradling, Will
GOOD! FT SHOT by Burks, Alec 00:45 53-53 T 7 FOUL by Samuels, Jamar (P4T10)
GOOD! FT SHOT by Burks, Alec 00:45 54-53 H 1
TIMEOUT 30sec 00:45
00:33 TURNOVR by Pullen, Jacob
STEAL by Burks, Alec 00:32
GOOD! DUNK by Burks, Alec [FB/PNT] 00:30 56-53 H 3
00:20 TIMEOUT 30sec
00:13 56-55 H 1 GOOD! LAYUP by Pullen, Jacob [PNT]
00:12 TIMEOUT 30sec
00:12 SUB IN : Irving, Martavious
00:12 SUB OUT: Spradling, Will
GOOD! FT SHOT by Knutson, Levi 00:11 57-55 H 2 FOUL by McGruder, Rodney (P2T11)
GOOD! FT SHOT by Knutson, Levi 00:11 58-55 H 3
TIMEOUT 30sec 00:11
00:11 SUB IN : Spradling, Will
00:11 SUB OUT: Irving, Martavious
FOUL by Knutson, Levi (P2T14) 00:04 58-56 H 2 GOOD! FT SHOT by Pullen, Jacob
00:04 MISSED FT SHOT by Pullen, Jacob
00:04 REBOUND (OFF) by (TEAM)
00:01 TIMEOUT 30sec
TIMEOUT 30sec 00:01
00:01 SUB IN : Southwell, Shane
00:01 SUB OUT: Spradling, Wi
No one called Frank a "master at closing out games," he was good at it though. No one but edn criticized oscar either. Your rant was weird.
No one called Frank a "master at closing out games," he was good at it though. No one but edn criticized oscar either. Your rant was weird.You aren't seriously saying oscar didn't botch the last 2 minutes of the KU and ISU games. I know you aren't saying that.
Need longer posts please!
No one called Frank a "master at closing out games," he was good at it though. No one but edn criticized oscar either. Your rant was weird.You aren't seriously saying oscar didn't botch the last 2 minutes of the KU and ISU games. I know you aren't saying that.
(hint you already agreed with my point when you mentioned sitting Angel)
Today's game didn't affect my opinion on oscar, and it shouldn't have affected anyone else's. oscar made some decisions that are fun to laugh at (sitting Angel with 45 seconds left, for example), but they probably didn't cost us the game.
Yes that was very weird. He sat Angel defensively when he had been sitting Will in that same spot since conference play started, I was like wtf :confused:
He must have REALLY wanted no one to foul
The look on his face when the refs told him "Oops, we messed up, you really only have 6 seconds left in the game -- maybe you should have fouled" :lol:
He actually had a good point about this on the post game show. He asked if the shot clock froze too because ISU ran the shot clock all the way down. He didnt get an answer.
I don't really care... It's a stupid talking point.
wtf is happening here, this board is weird tonight. I have no idea how you got that or frankly anything worth posting from that post you quoted.
Today's game didn't affect my opinion on oscar, and it shouldn't have affected anyone else's. oscar made some decisions that are fun to laugh at (sitting Angel with 45 seconds left, for example), but they probably didn't cost us the game.
Yes that was very weird. He sat Angel defensively when he had been sitting Will in that same spot since conference play started, I was like wtf :confused:
He must have REALLY wanted no one to foul
Today's game didn't affect my opinion on oscar, and it shouldn't have affected anyone else's. oscar made some decisions that are fun to laugh at (sitting Angel with 45 seconds left, for example), but they probably didn't cost us the game.
Yes that was very weird. He sat Angel defensively when he had been sitting Will in that same spot since conference play started, I was like wtf :confused:
He must have REALLY wanted no one to foul
I think it was about Angel's 4 fouls and the anticipation of OT. Not saying I agree with the move, but I think that was the difference.
Are we 15-4 with a win over #8 Florida, all of our losses before last night were to top-10 teams, and we're ranked #11 for the moment which is our highest ranking since 2010 when we were preseason #3 and then lost our way out of the rankings? Yep, confirmed all this is true. This makes me so ANGRY!!
:curse:
Are we 15-4 with a win over #8 Florida, all of our losses before last night were to top-10 teams, and we're ranked #11 for the moment which is our highest ranking since 2010 when we were preseason #3 and then lost our way out of the rankings? Yep, confirmed all this is true. This makes me so ANGRY!!
:curse:
we were supposed to be good this year. so, like, losing (especially to a team that lost to Tech) when you think you're supposed to be good makes people angry. don't worry, the anger will turn to apathy quickly and we won't have to have these types of threads.
I don't really care... It's a stupid talking point.
qft.
Are we 15-4 with a win over #8 Florida, all of our losses before last night were to top-10 teams, and we're ranked #11 for the moment which is our highest ranking since 2010 when we were preseason #3 and then lost our way out of the rankings? Yep, confirmed all this is true. This makes me so ANGRY!!
:curse:
we were supposed to be good this year. so, like, losing (especially to a team that lost to Tech) when you think you're supposed to be good makes people angry. don't worry, the anger will turn to apathy quickly and we won't have to have these types of threads.
we would have the same or worse record under frank so.....
Are we 15-4 with a win over #8 Florida, all of our losses before last night were to top-10 teams, and we're ranked #11 for the moment which is our highest ranking since 2010 when we were preseason #3 and then lost our way out of the rankings? Yep, confirmed all this is true. This makes me so ANGRY!!
:curse:
we were supposed to be good this year. so, like, losing (especially to a team that lost to Tech) when you think you're supposed to be good makes people angry. don't worry, the anger will turn to apathy quickly and we won't have to have these types of threads.
There's lots of weird emerging from unexpected places and I'm losing my gE orientation.GoSP is being facetious
typical obtuse MiR is typical.No one called Frank a "master at closing out games," he was good at it though. No one but edn criticized oscar either. Your rant was weird.You aren't seriously saying oscar didn't botch the last 2 minutes of the KU and ISU games. I know you aren't saying that.
(hint you already agreed with my point when you mentioned sitting Angel)
wtf is happening here, this board is weird tonight. I have no idea how you got that or frankly anything worth posting from that post you quoted.
There's lots of weird emerging from unexpected places and I'm losing my gE orientation.
I vote we end all pretenses and just officially name MIR the goEMAW Strawman in Residence, available for use as a culprit-on-demand for any elitaire's argument with himself.
typical obtuse MiR is typical.No one called Frank a "master at closing out games," he was good at it though. No one but edn criticized oscar either. Your rant was weird.You aren't seriously saying oscar didn't botch the last 2 minutes of the KU and ISU games. I know you aren't saying that.
(hint you already agreed with my point when you mentioned sitting Angel)
wtf is happening here, this board is weird tonight. I have no idea how you got that or frankly anything worth posting from that post you quoted.
Others are criticizing oscar. Anyone with common sense and a modicum of BBIQ knows that oscar botched the last few minutes of the last two games.
I like it when you try to take any kind of moral high ground in an argument when you're one of the trashiest posters here.typical obtuse MiR is typical.No one called Frank a "master at closing out games," he was good at it though. No one but edn criticized oscar either. Your rant was weird.You aren't seriously saying oscar didn't botch the last 2 minutes of the KU and ISU games. I know you aren't saying that.
(hint you already agreed with my point when you mentioned sitting Angel)
wtf is happening here, this board is weird tonight. I have no idea how you got that or frankly anything worth posting from that post you quoted.
Others are criticizing oscar. Anyone with common sense and a modicum of BBIQ knows that oscar botched the last few minutes of the last two games.
Hey weirdo, I didn't say anything positive or negative about oscar in this thread, stop quoting me dumb crap. You need to have this dumbass argument with dax. You idiots are arguing opposite sides of a stupid argument I never took a stance on, to me instead of each other. Seems clear to me that edn is scared of dax.
Seriously what the eff is wrong with some of you people, my god
The difference between a Woolridge and a good coach is closing games.
Quote from: ChiCat link ic=26028.msg728219#msg728219 date=1359329096The difference between a Woolridge and a good coach is closing games.
Players make plays. Self didn't do much to help B Mac bank in that 3 against ISU. For the most part coaches can really only get in the way in late game situations, IMO.
The difference between a Woolridge and a good coach is closing games.
:weakheartedcanary:
Is part of their rebounding failures related to conditioningdisagree entirely. Our big had KU's sucking wind during the run in the first half. I've never seen our guys up ready to play while KU's had their hands on their knees sucking air. oscar's system gives up inside position.
Is part of their rebounding failures related to conditioningdisagree entirely. Our big had KU's sucking wind during the run in the first half. I've never seen our guys up ready to play while KU's had their hands on their knees sucking air. oscar's system gives up inside position.
actually secondIs part of their rebounding failures related to conditioningdisagree entirely. Our big had KU's sucking wind during the run in the first half. I've never seen our guys up ready to play while KU's had their hands on their knees sucking air. oscar's system gives up inside position.
oscar system currently has us at 3rd in the conference in rebound margin.
why can't our wins be an indication of our future? or when we played well and lost?Can you honestly say that we beat many of our weaker non-cons as thoroughly as we 'should' have? What worries me is that we weren't seeing this team fail to blow teams out because they were new to oscar's system, instead there were that many flaws in the system which lesser teams couldn't exploit and use to their advantage.
I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.
I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.
Man, thanks for not posting that podcast right after we hired oscar, Kat Kid.
_FAN, your sig pic scares me.
but we're 2nd in rebound margin. i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.Than deal in reality. We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding. You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.
but we're 2nd in rebound margin. i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.Than deal in reality. We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding. You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.
_FAN, your sig pic scares me. It also does a huge disservice to Doug's face.Harvey Dent
I do, you're the one focusing on one point when all the others point to me being right.but we're 2nd in rebound margin. i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.Than deal in reality. We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding. You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.
hmm, i don't think you understand how statistics work.
I do, you're the one focusing on one point when all the others point to me being right.but we're 2nd in rebound margin. i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.Than deal in reality. We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding. You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.
hmm, i don't think you understand how statistics work.
rebounding we are 6th, in rebounding margin in conference we are getting destroyed coming in at 7th. Offensive rebounds in conference we are dead rough ridin' last. Defensive rebounding in conference we are 8th beating out powerhouses TTU and TCU. Offensive rebounding percent in conference we are once again dead last.
You're stat is inclusive of outlying performance over bad teams. Look at the conference stats or overall stats which aren't artificially inflated due to quality of opponent.
while we might not be dead last, we have played a fairly even big 12 schedule. 1 bottom, 1 bottom 3rd, 1 top, 3 kinda in the typical big 12 middle pack in OSU, OU and ISU. The serious issue here is that this team is built to be Frank team, where middle of the pack rebounding will not result in a favorable overall W/L.I do, you're the one focusing on one point when all the others point to me being right.but we're 2nd in rebound margin. i don't care to worry about perceived threats posed by oscar's system, i'll just deal with the reality.Than deal in reality. We are 8th in the league in defensive rebounding. You're counting on a statistical average which WILL change and right now is skewed because of out lying markers.
hmm, i don't think you understand how statistics work.
rebounding we are 6th, in rebounding margin in conference we are getting destroyed coming in at 7th. Offensive rebounds in conference we are dead rough ridin' last. Defensive rebounding in conference we are 8th beating out powerhouses TTU and TCU. Offensive rebounding percent in conference we are once again dead last.
You're stat is inclusive of outlying performance over bad teams. Look at the conference stats or overall stats which aren't artificially inflated due to quality of opponent.
clams is just trying to say we aren't as bad as our numbers show right now, and I would tend to agree.
We won't be the worst offensive rebounding team by the end of Big 12 play, but we won't be great either. I'd guess we'll end up about even in OR% and OR% allowed, probably around 31-33% in both.
_FAN, your sig pic scares me.
Good.
_FAN, your sig pic scares me.
Good.
_FAN, your sig pic scares me. It also does a huge disservice to Doug's face.Harvey Dent
_FAN, your sig pic scares me. It also does a huge disservice to Doug's face.Harvey Dent
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I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.
Man, thanks for not posting that podcast right after we hired oscar, Kat Kid.
:D
I made the comparison originally myself, but its really dumb (but also easy for K-State fans).
clams is just trying to say we aren't as bad as our numbers show right now, and I would tend to agree.
my favorite was the part when edn claimed our statistics are lying.no I claimed people with low statistical IQ would find one stat to latch onto to make themselves feel better about our crappy outlook.
so where are we going to finish. Right now we are on pace to be in the lower half, possibly lower 3rd in many of these categories.
I'd guess we'll end up about even in OR% and OR% allowed, probably around 31-33% in both.
my favorite was the part when edn claimed our statistics are lying.no I claimed people with low statistical IQ would find one stat to latch onto to make themselves feel better about our crappy outlook.
Why don't people call their shot on where this team will end up rebounding?
Last year we were:
2nd in rebounding
7th in defensive rebounding
3rd in margin
1st in offensive boards
so where are we going to finish. Right now we are on pace to be in the lower half, possibly lower 3rd in many of these categories.
Thanks, you've been fair in your analysis and contribution and I appreciate it. I wonder why the people chirping aren't so diligent.so where are we going to finish. Right now we are on pace to be in the lower half, possibly lower 3rd in many of these categories.
I said what I thought the actual numbers would be, I'd guess these numbers would place us right in the middle of the league for both. My concern is that we finish about the same between OR% and OR% given up. I'd guess our OR% will be slightly better and both will be around 4th-6th.I'd guess we'll end up about even in OR% and OR% allowed, probably around 31-33% in both.
Our stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.
did not read, but an argument about strength of schedule's influence on rebounding margin seems pretty funny.
way to back your stats upQuote from: ednksuOur stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.
Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU).
Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU).
Gotta give you credit for continuing to beat the hell out of that dead horse
Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU).
Gotta give you credit for continuing to beat the hell out of that dead horse
It's not a dead horse, we're +5 rebounds per game on the season, and only -2.5 per game in conference play, it it continues to be an issue going down the stretch than you guys can beat the dead horse . . . and when you only miss 9 shots in a half of basketball, well, duh right??
way to back your stats upQuote from: ednksuOur stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.
chirp gonna chirp
Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU).
Gotta give you credit for continuing to beat the hell out of that dead horse
It's not a dead horse, we're +5 rebounds per game on the season, and only -2.5 per game in conference play, it it continues to be an issue going down the stretch than you guys can beat the dead horse . . . and when you only miss 9 shots in a half of basketball, well, duh right??
I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.
Man, thanks for not posting that podcast right after we hired oscar, Kat Kid.
:D
I made the comparison originally myself, but its really dumb (but also easy for K-State fans).
The anger and confusion in the immediate period after the hiring obscured the ability to sit down and think through things rationally for a lot of us.
I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.
Man, thanks for not posting that podcast right after we hired oscar, Kat Kid.
:D
I made the comparison originally myself, but its really dumb (but also easy for K-State fans).
The anger and confusion in the immediate period after the hiring obscured the ability to sit down and think through things rationally for a lot of us.
not me
I don't like to be rude, but any oscar to Wooly comparisons are silly and complete nonsense.
Man, thanks for not posting that podcast right after we hired oscar, Kat Kid.
:D
I made the comparison originally myself, but its really dumb (but also easy for K-State fans).
The anger and confusion in the immediate period after the hiring obscured the ability to sit down and think through things rationally for a lot of us.
not me
way to back your stats upQuote from: ednksuOur stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.
chirp gonna chirp
my stats are backing up the fact that your baseless thread sucks, i hope that helps.
way to call your shots team pseudo, really childish.way to back your stats upQuote from: ednksuOur stats won't matter until they match what I think they will be at some point in time, and at that point in time, it's then that I will be right.
chirp gonna chirp
my stats are backing up the fact that your baseless thread sucks, i hope that helps.
There are couple of people in this thread and in general who are doing a really good job of drawing attention to their stupidity. Six pages :sdeek:
Kind of hard to get offensive rebounds when 61% of your shots are going in the basket (2nd half FG % at ISU).
Wow. Great thread. :dubious:
Wow. Great thread. :dubious:
ha ha, because italics means sarcasm. :thumbs:
I like how the thread started out by dax and edn indirectly calling each other out and then when it was pointed out to them that they both presented stupid arguments they joined forces for an even dumber point. This was a great thread for entertainment purposes. Also I was dead wrong about how entertaining the message boarding would be this season.I rough ridin' TOLD YOU.
I like how the thread started out by dax and edn indirectly calling each other out and then when it was pointed out to them that they both presented stupid arguments they joined forces for an even dumber point. This was a great thread for entertainment purposes. Also I was dead wrong about how entertaining the message boarding would be this season.
I like how the thread started out by dax and edn indirectly calling each other out and then when it was pointed out to them that they both presented stupid arguments they joined forces for an even dumber point. This was a great thread for entertainment purposes. Also I was dead wrong about how entertaining the message boarding would be this season.
I liked it when MIR and cRusty basically grabbed each others dicks and went for an evening walk around the pond in the park.
I like how the thread started out by dax and edn indirectly calling each other out and then when it was pointed out to them that they both presented stupid arguments they joined forces for an even dumber point. This was a great thread for entertainment purposes. Also I was dead wrong about how entertaining the message boarding would be this season.
I liked it when MIR and cRusty basically grabbed each others dicks and went for an evening walk around the pond in the park.
Dax, have you ever thought that it may be time to hang up the ol' keyboard?
I like how the thread started out by dax and edn indirectly calling each other out and then when it was pointed out to them that they both presented stupid arguments they joined forces for an even dumber point. This was a great thread for entertainment purposes. Also I was dead wrong about how entertaining the message boarding would be this season.
I liked it when MIR and cRusty basically grabbed each others dicks and went for an evening walk around the pond in the park.