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Title: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2013, 07:18:53 PM
They turn the ball over, their D does not force turnovers and have troubs when Withey has to come away from the lane.  Man, I wonder if this is what oscar has been prepping for all year.  Consider yourselves trolled gE.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: PowercatPat on January 09, 2013, 07:20:20 PM
ISU looks good. They are going to be tough to beat.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Belvis Noland on January 09, 2013, 07:21:08 PM
KU has games every year where they look mortal.  Just not when they play us.  Ever.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ben ji on January 09, 2013, 07:22:10 PM
Thorpe is a poor mans not very good clemente and Elijah isnt much better. Way to many TO's and bad shots.

KU fans were spoiled with really good PG's ever since chalmers has was there.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ben ji on January 09, 2013, 07:26:16 PM
Also I am pretty sure ISU does not believe in offensive rebounding
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 09, 2013, 07:26:43 PM
KU has games every year where they look mortal.  Just not when they play us.  Ever.

More true than not, only time it really hasn't worked is when we had our own immortal in J. Pullen
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2013, 07:27:03 PM
ISU's daring Kevin Young to shot 14 footers and he is such a beta he has turned almost all of them down.  Eliminates his patented jump entry pass.  I hope we do this.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 09, 2013, 07:30:53 PM
If sqwawks manage to eff this up, the phog meltdown could potentially cut my winter heating bill in half.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Belvis Noland on January 09, 2013, 07:30:58 PM
Show of hands.  Who thinks KU loses this game?  I say they win by double digits.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 09, 2013, 07:33:34 PM
I'll wait until the under 8 TO. If KU doesn't show much change over the next 4 minutes I think ISU might pull it off or KU wins by less than 5. If KU has any lead under the 8 TO ISU's done
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2013, 07:39:30 PM
KU run is coming, no doubt.  But this Iowa State team is salty.  God damn.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Saulbadguy on January 09, 2013, 07:42:06 PM
Refs will take care of this.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2013, 07:46:30 PM
and boom goes the dynamite.
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2013, 07:48:00 PM
Thorpe is a poor mans not very good clemente and Elijah isnt much better. Way to many TO's and bad shots.

KU fans were spoiled with really good PG's ever since chalmers has was there.

Aaron Miles and Kirk Hinrich are upset that you stopped with Chalmers
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: AppleJack on January 09, 2013, 07:50:26 PM
97% Kansas wins this.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pvegs on January 09, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
KU run is coming, no doubt.  But this Iowa State team is salty.  God damn.

No kidding.  6 guys in the rotation who seem to be fair to above average 3 pt shooters.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 09, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
:tsc:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 09, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
Fred is building a monster.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ksu101 on January 09, 2013, 07:57:48 PM
ku taking after its football program i see
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2013, 07:59:39 PM
C'mon Hawks! :tsc:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2013, 08:01:29 PM
by the way matt doherty is a confirmed moron.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2013, 08:01:58 PM
Bank is open, baby!
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2013, 08:02:15 PM
lol
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 09, 2013, 08:02:23 PM
oh my
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2013, 08:02:29 PM
jesus tits ISU....
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: wetwillie on January 09, 2013, 08:02:44 PM
S UCK IT CLONES
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ksu101 on January 09, 2013, 08:02:49 PM
lol whatever  :tsc:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: p1k3 on January 09, 2013, 08:03:22 PM
god damn it
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Prince McJunkins on January 09, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
Of course.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 08:04:26 PM
college basketball should get rid of the 3 (unless we are banking them in)
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pvegs on January 09, 2013, 08:05:12 PM
by the way matt doherty is a confirmed moron.

yes, block/charge confusion was as embarrassing for him as us.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ksu101 on January 09, 2013, 08:05:16 PM
we gonna beat both these pud teams
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ben ji on January 09, 2013, 08:06:15 PM
This McClemente kid is pretty good
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
Benny Mac for Naismith Award
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: PowercatPat on January 09, 2013, 08:07:15 PM
Why the eff would ISU not foul at the end of regulation? All they had to do was foul and they would've won. JFC Hoiberg.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2013, 08:07:39 PM
U smell that home cookin'?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pvegs on January 09, 2013, 08:07:49 PM
ot start is so preditable...
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
game.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ednksu on January 09, 2013, 08:08:48 PM
Sorry for tuning in at the end Havs, my bad on the jinx.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: BackPayne on January 09, 2013, 08:09:05 PM
Kick out Iowa State...how in the eff do you blow this game.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 09, 2013, 08:09:10 PM
Ain't no way the refs let KU lose this game.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ksu101 on January 09, 2013, 08:09:25 PM
damn
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 09, 2013, 08:10:09 PM
i rough ridin' hate them
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: p1k3 on January 09, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
Should we just give KU the Big 12 title every year until the conference dissolves?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: PowercatPat on January 09, 2013, 08:12:02 PM
I am still in awe that ISU didn't foul at the end of regulation. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2013, 08:12:21 PM
:tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc: :tsc:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kim carnes on January 09, 2013, 08:14:38 PM
Rock chalk!
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
is this the ugliest team ever, or is it just EJ bringing the average down really low?
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
is this the ugliest team ever, or is it just EJ bringing the average down really low?
B-Mac is dreamy :love:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 09, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
This is why KU is Ku is Iowa is Iowa St

Like mentioned, anytime there is under 10 secs, u should pressure 3/4 court, switch all screens, and foul when they get just over halfcourt

Even if they make both FTs, u only make 1 FT..... there would prob be under 5 secs to go length of court to try and get a 2 to tie

Im not that mad, cause KU is gonna win the conf and any loss Isu has just helps us in the conf standings.   Just shows Hoiberg is still very green as a HC. 
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2013, 08:20:06 PM
is this the ugliest team ever, or is it just EJ bringing the average down really low?
B-Mac is dreamy :love:

really the only one keeping the debate alive, or else it would be an overwhelming "yes".
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: TheHamburglar on January 09, 2013, 08:21:00 PM
And theres Matt putting down our team and pumping up oscar, just like oscar drew it up.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 08:25:18 PM
ISU, is there a more hapless bunch of lovable losers?   :love:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: BostonPancake on January 09, 2013, 08:27:05 PM
Too lazy to look, but I bet Cyclonefanatic is a treat right now.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 09, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
ISU, is there a more hapless bunch of lovable losers?   :love:

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pvegs on January 09, 2013, 08:32:28 PM
Too lazy to look, but I bet Cyclonefanatic is a treat right now.

not really. we'd be way more butthurt under similar circumstances.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 09, 2013, 08:32:49 PM
Thunderstruck is their sandstorm.   :lol:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 08:35:50 PM
Too lazy to look, but I bet Cyclonefanatic is a treat right now.

Fred is a Rhoads over there.  Actually sucks but has pretended to like Iowa so they all defend him.

One guy actually said fouling was wrong call because odds of a 3 vs a guy making his first FT then missing the second then KU rebounding it then making a 2 to tie were the same
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 09, 2013, 08:41:35 PM
How many more things can Iowa State be average at? They had a chance to get over the hump tonight, but instead failed
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 09, 2013, 08:43:46 PM
lol
Title: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2013, 08:44:32 PM
CLAMS GAME NOTES:

crazy to think ku hasn't lost their opening conference game since 92

good win for lil bro

isu's offense is hilarious
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 08:51:44 PM
CLAMS GAME NOTES:

crazy to think ku hasn't lost their opening conference game since 92

good win for lil bro

isu's offense is hilarious

ISU in general is hilarious
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: AbeFroman on January 09, 2013, 08:55:36 PM
Thunderstruck is their sandstorm.   :lol:

Their crowd is very 98.9 rockfest
Title: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pissclams on January 09, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
ya but their offense, it's extra funny to me- I guess it's because they're I$U
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 08:56:07 PM
Too lazy to look, but I bet Cyclonefanatic is a treat right now.

Quote
I honestly think Iowa State is the only team thats going to challenge KU this year in conference. Maybe K-State or Baylor, but nobody in the Big 12 is going to get close to winning at KU like we did tonight. If we win tonight I guarantee we start 5-0, maybe 6-0 in conference. I hope this game makes our guys real mad and real hungry. I hope we beat Texas by 30+ saturday.

Regardless, I think either Iowa State or KU wins the big 12 this year.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 09, 2013, 09:04:53 PM
is that your quote limestone?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 09:06:06 PM
Quote
This game means nothing. If anything, it just motivates us to rip this whole league up from here on out.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 09:09:14 PM
is that your quote limestone?

no luke
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Scary Smart on January 09, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Time to hang another banner, boys. Rock chalk!   :tsc:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: jtksu on January 09, 2013, 09:26:18 PM
Prob belongs in a different thread but the janitors from my highrise are really pumping up ISU on social media. 
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 09, 2013, 10:27:12 PM
Hoiberg thinks Huggy should have just fouled Texas......LOL.... (UT down 3 with 5.6 sec left.... UT drilled a 3 to force OT)

OK, so fouling may have been more difficult for WV there, but you have to switch every pick in that situation.   UT ran pick and there was no switch, and the screener (Holmes) came open and had a pretty decent look.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: CloneBroChill on January 09, 2013, 11:08:50 PM
we gonna beat both these pud teams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ZpHr5l0U0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ZpHr5l0U0)
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kyles on January 10, 2013, 12:09:08 AM
isu's offense is hilarious

It really is. I can just imagine Fred in the huddle talking to his players...

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbIeqO.png&hash=974e1bec2a8a0c26975984a364f69725c3142a2e)
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: jtksu on January 10, 2013, 12:15:24 AM
isu's offense is hilarious

It really is. I can just imagine Fred in the huddle talking to his players...

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbIeqO.png&hash=974e1bec2a8a0c26975984a364f69725c3142a2e)

Pretty hammered right now so, I need a Fry meme.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 10, 2013, 06:22:31 AM
Thunderstruck is their sandstorm.   :lol:

:lol:

reminds me of this classic rick daris post.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11700.msg254357#msg254357
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2013, 07:35:31 AM
Thunderstruck is their sandstorm.   :lol:

:lol:

reminds me of this classic rick daris post.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11700.msg254357#msg254357

Great news, 'Cats fans
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2013, 08:48:54 AM
Thunderstruck is their sandstorm.   :lol:

:lol:

reminds me of this classic rick daris post.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11700.msg254357#msg254357

Great news, 'Cats fans

:lol: 

and

isu's offense is hilarious

It really is. I can just imagine Fred in the huddle talking to his players...

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbIeqO.png&hash=974e1bec2a8a0c26975984a364f69725c3142a2e)

:lol:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: nicname on January 10, 2013, 08:55:29 AM
Thunderstruck is their sandstorm.   :lol:

:lol:

reminds me of this classic rick daris post.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11700.msg254357#msg254357

welp, i know what im doing for the next hour or so
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 10, 2013, 09:02:22 AM
Thunderstruck is their sandstorm.   :lol:

:lol:

reminds me of this classic rick daris post.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11700.msg254357#msg254357

Great news, 'Cats fans


you've been, dun... dun... dun... dun...THUNDERSTRUCK!


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.gibson.com%2FLifestyle%2FEnglish%2FaaFeaturesImages%2Fangus%21.jpg&hash=94f15ffbbe0b91a438882784c2f1e312984f7d9a)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fschools%2Fkan%2Fgraphics%2Fself%2Fself-fieldhouse5-590.jpg&hash=9f0fda194b1136e45f4085139e31d650c81eee75)
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 10, 2013, 09:11:33 AM
They stole that newspaper gimmick from us so hard.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2013, 10:23:22 AM
Hoiberg thinks Huggy should have just fouled Texas......LOL.... (UT down 3 with 5.6 sec left.... UT drilled a 3 to force OT)

OK, so fouling may have been more difficult for WV there, but you have to switch every pick in that situation.   UT ran pick and there was no switch, and the screener (Holmes) came open and had a pretty decent look.

Are there numerous examples out there of teams fouling and then it not working? I mean last night we have 2 examples in the Big 12 where not fouling down 3 leads to OT.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 10:29:21 AM
Hoiberg thinks Huggy should have just fouled Texas......LOL.... (UT down 3 with 5.6 sec left.... UT drilled a 3 to force OT)

OK, so fouling may have been more difficult for WV there, but you have to switch every pick in that situation.   UT ran pick and there was no switch, and the screener (Holmes) came open and had a pretty decent look.

Are there numerous examples out there of teams fouling and then it not working? I mean last night we have 2 examples in the Big 12 where not fouling down 3 leads to OT.

Chris Merriweather says hi!  :eye:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2013, 10:32:24 AM
Chris Merriweather says hi!  :eye:

Yeah, that one I remembered... and we still won.

I'm especially trying to think of times where teams lost the game or went on to lose the game. I remember hearing about one high school game where the team fouled up by 3 and then the opponent made a FT then tipped the miss out for a 3 to win, but I don't remember other examples.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2013, 10:43:37 AM
ISU looks good. They are going to be tough to beat.

Nope, they'll finish lower half and will be a 3 seed in the NIT.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 10:51:30 AM
Chris Merriweather says hi!  :eye:

Yeah, that one I remembered... and we still won.

I'm especially trying to think of times where teams lost the game or went on to lose the game. I remember hearing about one high school game where the team fouled up by 3 and then the opponent made a FT then tipped the miss out for a 3 to win, but I don't remember other examples.

Not trying to argue here or anything, but IMO if the ref calls the foul on Denis we win in regulation and beat Butler, too.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2013, 11:01:35 AM
Chris Merriweather says hi!  :eye:

Yeah, that one I remembered... and we still won.

I'm especially trying to think of times where teams lost the game or went on to lose the game. I remember hearing about one high school game where the team fouled up by 3 and then the opponent made a FT then tipped the miss out for a 3 to win, but I don't remember other examples.

Not trying to argue here or anything, but IMO if the ref calls the foul on Denis we win in regulation and beat Butler, too.

I agree.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
Chris Merriweather says hi!  :eye:

Yeah, that one I remembered... and we still won.

I'm especially trying to think of times where teams lost the game or went on to lose the game. I remember hearing about one high school game where the team fouled up by 3 and then the opponent made a FT then tipped the miss out for a 3 to win, but I don't remember other examples.

Not trying to argue here or anything, but IMO if the ref calls the foul on Denis we win in regulation and beat Butler, too.

 :powerespect:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2013, 11:04:50 AM
Chris Merriweather says hi!  :eye:

Yeah, that one I remembered... and we still won.

I'm especially trying to think of times where teams lost the game or went on to lose the game. I remember hearing about one high school game where the team fouled up by 3 and then the opponent made a FT then tipped the miss out for a 3 to win, but I don't remember other examples.

Not trying to argue here or anything, but IMO if the ref calls the foul on Denis we win in regulation and beat Butler, too.

I agree.

Please tell me you don't
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2013, 11:06:41 AM
Please tell me you don't

Win in regulation, yes.

Beat Butler, not 100%, but a better chance.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 11:06:53 AM
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Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: catzacker on January 10, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
ISU looks good. They are going to be tough to beat.

Nope, they'll finish lower half and will be a 3 seed in the NIT.

RPI is about 63 right now, only 1 bad loss (Iowa), they'll be tough at home (so they'll get some top 60 wins, KSU, OSU, Baylor, OU), and have enough that they can beat one of those teams on the road.  we'll see.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 11:09:47 AM
Butler was tie game with 3 minutes left.  We were drained.  Shot 39% from the field that afternoon, only 50% from FT.  Team was dog tired.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2013, 11:10:32 AM
Guys, let's face it. If that dumbass ref does his job and blows his rough ridin' whistle on Denis, we win the national championship, Frank is still coach and recruiting better, and we are gearing up for another national championship run this year. It's 100% and we should just find that rough ridin' ref and give him what he deserves. And that's a good ass kicking.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 10, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
Butler was tie game with 3 minutes left.  We were drained.  Shot 39% from the field that afternoon, only 50% from FT.  Team was dog tired.
Guys, let's face it. If that dumbass ref does his job and blows his rough ridin' whistle on Denis, we win the national championship, Frank is still coach and recruiting better, and we are gearing up for another national championship run this year. It's 100% and we should just find that rough ridin' ref and give him what he deserves. And that's a good ass kicking.



Agreed, we'd played a pud Michigan State team and a Duke team that dodged a last second shot to win it. Ok, maybe we don't win it all but that 3OT game cost us a lot.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
Please tell me you don't

Win in regulation, yes.

Beat Butler, not 100%, but a better chance.

Okay so you don't agree, good.

Butler was tie game with 3 minutes left.  We were drained.  Shot 39% from the field that afternoon, only 50% from FT.  Team was dog tired.

The game was not tied with three minutes left.  I think the fatigue of the team is much more attributable to working as hard as they did to come back in the Butler game than the few extra minutes of basketball 2 days before.

Playing those overtimes against Xavier certainly didn't help us but to say we would have won is absurd.  Butler went 2-1 in a span of 4 games against 3 of the 5 best teams in the country using the exact same formula, it worked against us just as it did against Syracuse and very nearly Duke.  Michigan State had no chance, Butler was better than them in all facets.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 10, 2013, 11:29:32 AM
Please tell me you don't

Win in regulation, yes.

Beat Butler, not 100%, but a better chance.

Okay so you don't agree, good.

Butler was tie game with 3 minutes left.  We were drained.  Shot 39% from the field that afternoon, only 50% from FT.  Team was dog tired.

The game was not tied with three minutes left.  I think the fatigue of the team is much more attributable to working as hard as they did to come back in the Butler game than the few extra minutes of basketball 2 days before.

Playing those overtimes against Xavier certainly didn't help us but to say we would have won is absurd.  Butler went 2-1 in a span of 4 games against 3 of the 5 best teams in the country using the exact same formula, it worked against us just as it did against Syracuse and very nearly Duke.  Michigan State had no chance, Butler was better than them in all facets.


i think the xavier ot's took more of a mental toll than a physical one. i do think we would've had a better shot at winning if that game didn't go into overtime. it was all people could talk about and think about for two days. greatest game ever, etc and such a feeling of accomplishment like they really had just won something that i think there was  little bit of a let down. win in regulation and thoughts are immediately on the next game. who knows though. prob still lose.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ChiComCat on January 10, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
The Butler runs are the equivalent of 2011/12 KSU football.  Its consistency, execution, and not making/taking advantage of opponent mistakes.  A million teams think they should've beat them but they consistently couldn't.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2013, 11:35:33 AM

The game was not tied with three minutes left. 

Yeah, about that...

Quote from: ESPN play-by-play
3:35   Matt Howard missed Free Throw.             54-52   
3:35                                                            54-52    Rodney McGruder Defensive Rebound.
3:06                                                            54-54        Denis Clemente made Two Point Jumper.
2:49   Gordon Hayward made Two Point Layup.   56-54   
2:41   Kansas State 30 Second Timeout.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2013, 11:42:40 AM
The Butler runs are the equivalent of 2011/12 KSU football.  Its consistency, execution, and not making/taking advantage of opponent mistakes.  A million teams think they should've beat them but they consistently couldn't.

They did that, but they did it with 2 NBA draft picks, including a lottery pick.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2013, 11:44:56 AM
Also, someone was trying to tell me that Butler's team that year was less talented than ours.  I think the top 10 draft pick and the 246 NBA games that Heyward and Mack have played in compared to the zero NBA games our team's players have played in contradict that opinion, but who knows.  Maybe all the real talent plays professionally overseas these days.  Wait, Howard and Veasley did that too?  Hmm...
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 10, 2013, 11:50:08 AM
The Butler runs are the equivalent of 2011/12 KSU football.  Its consistency, execution, and not making/taking advantage of opponent mistakes.  A million teams think they should've beat them but they consistently couldn't.

They did that, but they did it with 2 NBA draft picks, including a lottery pick.
Hayward was their AB
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 12:01:30 PM
MIR really showing his inner dumbass in this thread.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 10, 2013, 12:15:13 PM
MIR really showing his inner dumbass in this thread.

counter-PI in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
MIR really showing his inner dumbass in this thread.

counter-PI in 3...2...1...

 :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2013, 01:10:16 PM

The game was not tied with three minutes left. 

Yeah, about that...

Quote from: ESPN play-by-play
3:35   Matt Howard missed Free Throw.             54-52   
3:35                                                            54-52    Rodney McGruder Defensive Rebound.
3:06                                                            54-54        Denis Clemente made Two Point Jumper.
2:49   Gordon Hayward made Two Point Layup.   56-54   
2:41   Kansas State 30 Second Timeout.

Completely changes the point, nevermind.  Sorry I forgot about the 55 seconds the game was tied, I was thinking about the other 39 minutes and 5 seconds of Butler leading, my bad.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 10, 2013, 01:15:20 PM
Mortal or no?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.minus.com%2FiynCsXZR3nUrq.gif&hash=b69ff2775bb25178d6328c56c1c9295c2ae73632)

http://writingbareback.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/the-best-reason-to-be-a-2013-ku-jayhawks-fan/
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2013, 01:18:35 PM
MIR really showing his inner dumbass in this thread.

counter-PI in 3...2...1...

No counter-PI at all, Emo is 100% correct.  It's perfectly rational and well-reasoned to think that an officials no call in a game that Butler didn't even play in was the biggest factor that helped them go to back-to-back final fours.  Also rational to chalk up a team losing a game, in which they never lead and were only tied in for less than a minute, to fatigue from a game 2 days earlier.  Furthermore, it should be perfectly acceptable to attribute the fatigue to a missed call instead of a subsequent bonehead play or inability to win the game in overtimes 1 or 2.

Had no idea what I was thinking Emo EMAW, sorry dude, we were robbed.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2013, 01:19:56 PM
Mortal or no?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.minus.com%2FiynCsXZR3nUrq.gif&hash=b69ff2775bb25178d6328c56c1c9295c2ae73632)

http://writingbareback.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/the-best-reason-to-be-a-2013-ku-jayhawks-fan/

Would be elite if everyone but B Mac were cropped out.  Also lol at Perry Ellis, miserable bastard.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 10, 2013, 01:20:20 PM
YEAH YEAH YEAH THUNDERSTRUCK!!!!!!! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aUcw9IpUSlA#t=40s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aUcw9IpUSlA#t=40s)
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2013, 01:26:51 PM
their decibel measurement device is cute.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 10, 2013, 01:39:48 PM
their decibel measurement device is cute.

a personal validation meter.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2013, 01:50:58 PM
their decibel measurement device is cute.

a personal validation meter.

Also fake / inflated as crap
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 10, 2013, 02:15:08 PM
Mortal or no?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.minus.com%2FiynCsXZR3nUrq.gif&hash=b69ff2775bb25178d6328c56c1c9295c2ae73632)

http://writingbareback.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/the-best-reason-to-be-a-2013-ku-jayhawks-fan/

Would be elite if everyone but B Mac were cropped out.  Also lol at Perry Ellis, miserable bastard.

Yep. my take away was Ellis looking miserable(FYBS) and Withey being a goofy lovable SOB.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 10, 2013, 02:39:18 PM
That locker room looks like a leper colony minus Ben...woof  :barf:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 03:08:24 PM
MIR really showing his inner dumbass in this thread.

counter-PI in 3...2...1...

No counter-PI at all, Emo is 100% correct.  It's perfectly rational and well-reasoned to think that an officials no call in a game that Butler didn't even play in was the biggest factor that helped them go to back-to-back final fours.  Also rational to chalk up a team losing a game, in which they never lead and were only tied in for less than a minute, to fatigue from a game 2 days earlier.  Furthermore, it should be perfectly acceptable to attribute the fatigue to a missed call instead of a subsequent bonehead play or inability to win the game in overtimes 1 or 2.

Had no idea what I was thinking Emo EMAW, sorry dude, we were robbed.

Straw man after straw man argument.

Did I ever say the no call was "the biggest factor" of anything?  No.

Attribute the fatigue to whatever you want, missed call or bonehead play, I don't care.  I'm assuming you watched the game and saw the ridiculous prayer threes that those two X players (Longford and Holloway or something like that?) were draining?  One after another, from beyond NBA distance, was incredible. 

The players themselves admitted to not getting any sleep that night.  I think there's a good chance we win that game in less dramatic fashion, in regulation, and the team is able to do better than their worst FG and FT shooting performance of the year (totally didn't look that up but sounds plausible).
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 10, 2013, 04:14:57 PM

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.minus.com%2FiynCsXZR3nUrq.gif&hash=b69ff2775bb25178d6328c56c1c9295c2ae73632)

withey is just awful

Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: PowercatPat on January 10, 2013, 04:19:35 PM
ISU looks good. They are going to be tough to beat.

Nope, they'll finish lower half and will be a 3 seed in the NIT.

RPI is about 63 right now, only 1 bad loss (Iowa), they'll be tough at home (so they'll get some top 60 wins, KSU, OSU, Baylor, OU), and have enough that they can beat one of those teams on the road.  we'll see.

If they shoot 3's like they did last night they are going to beat any of those said teams on the road. They aren't going to finish in the lower half of the Big 12 and make the NIT. They are an NCAA tournament team.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 10, 2013, 04:29:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Dndg9dCaQiY#t=2574s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Dndg9dCaQiY#t=2574s)

Quote
When they ran out of the tunnel they looked so tired

The team/coaches always said fatigue from the previous game was a factor. 

Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 10, 2013, 04:32:47 PM

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.minus.com%2FiynCsXZR3nUrq.gif&hash=b69ff2775bb25178d6328c56c1c9295c2ae73632)

withey is just awful

I feel like there's lots of potential in shopping this gif
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 10, 2013, 04:33:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Dndg9dCaQiY#t=2574s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Dndg9dCaQiY#t=2574s)

Quote
When they ran out of the tunnel they looked so tired

The team/coaches always said fatigue from the previous game was a factor.

Also how much of a Dick was Frank?  He called the team immature like 90 seconds after they lost and were crying.  Seemed unnecessary.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kougar24 on January 10, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
KU has games every year where they look mortal.  Just not when they play us.  Ever.

Pfffffffft. (http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=260142305)
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 10, 2013, 07:00:56 PM
MIR really showing his inner dumbass in this thread.

counter-PI in 3...2...1...

No counter-PI at all, Emo is 100% correct.  It's perfectly rational and well-reasoned to think that an officials no call in a game that Butler didn't even play in was the biggest factor that helped them go to back-to-back final fours.  Also rational to chalk up a team losing a game, in which they never lead and were only tied in for less than a minute, to fatigue from a game 2 days earlier.  Furthermore, it should be perfectly acceptable to attribute the fatigue to a missed call instead of a subsequent bonehead play or inability to win the game in overtimes 1 or 2.

Had no idea what I was thinking Emo EMAW, sorry dude, we were robbed.

Straw man after straw man argument.

Did I ever say the no call was "the biggest factor" of anything?  No.

Attribute the fatigue to whatever you want, missed call or bonehead play, I don't care.  I'm assuming you watched the game and saw the ridiculous prayer threes that those two X players (Longford and Holloway or something like that?) were draining?  One after another, from beyond NBA distance, was incredible. 

The players themselves admitted to not getting any sleep that night.  I think there's a good chance we win that game in less dramatic fashion, in regulation, and the team is able to do better than their worst FG and FT shooting performance of the year (totally didn't look that up but sounds plausible).

I'm okay with you skipping the growing list of excuses and just go with the team that had a lottery pick and went to back-to-back final fours was better than us that night.

Funny, I've never read anyone willing to give the BYU game back because they played an overtime game before they played us.  They weren't nearly as deep.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 10, 2013, 07:23:59 PM
K-State can beat both of these teams. Neither has beat anyone good, both have struggled or lost to teams in the same category or worse than K-State. 

Parking lot on the silly bitch fight.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 10, 2013, 10:47:49 PM
I'm with MIR on this one, although I do think it's funny that he won't admit to being wrong about the game being tied with 3 minutes left.

It's dumb to say they were tired. I don't care what the coaches said. I guarantee they had practices just as difficult as a 2OT game two days before games throughout the year. We made fun of all the football fans last year who wouldn't admit that we were just better than them, and now we're saying the same thing about 2010 Butler.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2013, 01:38:42 AM
 :confused:

Sorry I forgot about the 55 seconds the game was tied, I was thinking about the other 39 minutes and 5 seconds of Butler leading, my bad.

I'm with MIR on this one, although I do think it's funny that he won't admit to being wrong about the game being tied with 3 minutes left.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 11, 2013, 01:58:44 AM
:confused:

Sorry I forgot about the 55 seconds the game was tied, I was thinking about the other 39 minutes and 5 seconds of Butler leading, my bad.

I'm with MIR on this one, although I do think it's funny that he won't admit to being wrong about the game being tied with 3 minutes left.

Sorry, I assumed that was a sarcastic apology. Like you were dismissing it because it didn't matter when compared to the rest of the game.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: DQ12 on January 11, 2013, 02:00:56 AM
:confused:

Sorry I forgot about the 55 seconds the game was tied, I was thinking about the other 39 minutes and 5 seconds of Butler leading, my bad.

I'm with MIR on this one, although I do think it's funny that he won't admit to being wrong about the game being tied with 3 minutes left.

Sorry, I assumed that was a sarcastic apology. Like you were dismissing it because it didn't matter when compared to the rest of the game.
FTR, that's how I read it too.

FTR vol. ii:  This thread is weird. 
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2013, 02:08:23 AM
:confused:

Sorry I forgot about the 55 seconds the game was tied, I was thinking about the other 39 minutes and 5 seconds of Butler leading, my bad.

I'm with MIR on this one, although I do think it's funny that he won't admit to being wrong about the game being tied with 3 minutes left.

Sorry, I assumed that was a sarcastic apology. Like you were dismissing it because it didn't matter when compared to the rest of the game.

Well it didn't, but that doesn't change the fact that I actually did forget the game was tied twice for a total of 55 seconds including 17 seconds with 3 minutes left in the game.  The 55 seconds is an illustrative device to show that we weren't very close to winning that game.  I do remember us fighting like hell to get back in the game however I thought we only got within 2 with the ball.  I'm wrong about 4 times a year, I have no problem admitting error when I'm usually around 67,996 for 68,000
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 11, 2013, 08:47:56 AM
here's a new one....KU fans claiming ESPN lowers the crowd volume so that Allen sounds quiet on TV.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: bigwillie20 on January 11, 2013, 08:55:10 AM
here's a new one....KU fans claiming ESPN lowers the crowd volume so that Allen sounds quiet on TV.

 :lol:

I like how they're such a bunch of poors that haven't left the state that they think that being in a gym is "loudest noise I have ever heard"
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 11, 2013, 09:00:11 AM
I'm pretty sure they see that dB meter and it tells them that they are, in fact, in the loudest place in the world during each and every game.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2013, 09:07:37 AM
I'm pretty sure they see that dB meter and it tells them that they are, in fact, in the loudest place in the world during each and every game.

Quote from: emawblast's squawk friend
"I've seen that thing at 120 tons of times!!! Rock Chalk!!!"
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 11, 2013, 09:52:40 AM
here's a new one....KU fans claiming ESPN lowers the crowd volume so that Allen sounds quiet on TV.

sounds like ku fans are getting...........................THUNDERSTUCK!!!!! YEAH YEAH YEAH THUNDER STRU-UCK!!!!!
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 11, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
here's a new one....KU fans claiming ESPN lowers the crowd volume so that Allen sounds quiet on TV.

sounds like ku fans are getting...........................THUNDERSTUCK!!!!! YEAH YEAH YEAH THUNDER STRU-UCK!!!!!


eweuaaahhhh ah ah ah, ah ah ah, THUNDER! eweuahhhhh ah ah ah, ah ah ah, THUNDER!
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 11, 2013, 09:59:53 AM
I'm pretty sure they see that dB meter and it tells them that they are, in fact, in the loudest place in the world during each and every game.

Quote from: emawblast's squawk friend
"I've seen that thing at 120 tons of times!!! Rock Chalk!!!"

Whatever they are using as a "dB meter" is not using a logarithmic scale.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kougar24 on January 11, 2013, 10:22:57 AM
I'm pretty sure they see that dB meter and it tells them that they are, in fact, in the loudest place in the world during each and every game.

Quote from: emawblast's squawk friend
"I've seen that thing at 120 tons of times!!! Rock Chalk!!!"

Whatever they are using as a "dB meter" is not using a logarithmic scale.

Maybe it's a douchebag meter. OH SNAP
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: JKEYS on January 11, 2013, 10:37:11 AM
I'm pretty sure they see that dB meter and it tells them that they are, in fact, in the loudest place in the world during each and every game.

Quote from: emawblast's squawk friend
"I've seen that thing at 120 tons of times!!! Rock Chalk!!!"

Whatever they are using as a "dB meter" is not using a logarithmic scale.

Maybe it's a douchebag meter. OH SNAP

 :grin:
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 11, 2013, 11:04:42 AM
I'm pretty sure they see that dB meter and it tells them that they are, in fact, in the loudest place in the world during each and every game.

Quote from: emawblast's squawk friend
"I've seen that thing at 120 tons of times!!! Rock Chalk!!!"

Whatever they are using as a "dB meter" is not using a logarithmic scale.

is it A weighted? C weighted? these are what enquiring minds would want to know. 3dB doubling rule? log base 10. come on guys let's talk dB's. also maybe they're using HL and not SPL. crazy i know, but possible? they are jayhawks after all.
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 11, 2013, 12:02:31 PM
I'm pretty sure they see that dB meter and it tells them that they are, in fact, in the loudest place in the world during each and every game.

Quote from: emawblast's squawk friend
"I've seen that thing at 120 tons of times!!! Rock Chalk!!!"

Whatever they are using as a "dB meter" is not using a logarithmic scale.

is it A weighted? C weighted? these are what enquiring minds would want to know. 3dB doubling rule? log base 10. come on guys let's talk dB's. also maybe they're using HL and not SPL. crazy i know, but possible? they are jayhawks after all.

Well, log base 10 would be 3dB doubling.  Also, some highly scientific internet research tells me that Quest Field in Seattle is supposedly the loudest stadium in the NFL and it has been recorded at 116 dB, so KU is trying to say they regularly get 3 or 4 times as loud as a stadium that has 3 or 4 times as many people.  Color me dubious.
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: DQ12 on January 11, 2013, 01:15:57 PM
I'm pretty sure they see that dB meter and it tells them that they are, in fact, in the loudest place in the world during each and every game.

Quote from: emawblast's squawk friend
"I've seen that thing at 120 tons of times!!! Rock Chalk!!!"

Whatever they are using as a "dB meter" is not using a logarithmic scale.

is it A weighted? C weighted? these are what enquiring minds would want to know. 3dB doubling rule? log base 10. come on guys let's talk dB's. also maybe they're using HL and not SPL. crazy i know, but possible? they are jayhawks after all.

Well, log base 10 would be 3dB doubling.  Also, some highly scientific internet research tells me that Quest Field in Seattle is supposedly the loudest stadium in the NFL and it has been recorded at 116 dB, so KU is trying to say they regularly get 3 or 4 times as loud as a stadium that has 3 or 4 times as many people.  Color me dubious.
maybe stop underestimating the passion ku fans have for their team

is that...thunder i hear coming from Lawrence??? It certainly could be, or it could also be the roaring KU crowd after a clutch layup from fan favorite Jeff Withey.  The point of all of this is that thunder and the KU fans are both really loud. 
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 11, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
Did the Seahawks put their measurement device right in front of a set of speakers that were cranked up as loud as they could go and then placed in front of a microphone to make it even louder blaring THUNDER louder than it's ever been blared? I didn't think so. And the crowd was going nuts. Loudest venue ever, bar none.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 12, 2013, 03:41:40 PM
Jebus sqwawks, man up
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 12, 2013, 03:54:13 PM
Coming to the sorry conclusion, they are just not very good. And Ellis, dodged a big bullet there.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 12, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
Coming to the sorry conclusion, they are just not very good. And Ellis, dodged a big bullet there.

TSC will win by 17. 
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 12, 2013, 03:58:20 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 12, 2013, 03:58:43 PM
Coming to the sorry conclusion, they are just not very good. And Ellis, dodged a big bullet there.

Why aren't you watching the second half of bedlam?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 12, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year

This.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 12, 2013, 04:00:04 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year

I'll take that bet
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 12, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
Quote
Why aren't you watching the second half of bedlam?
Wife has he remote.  :curse:
KU getting badly outrebounded, but shot 18 first-half FTs.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 12, 2013, 04:08:52 PM
FGM-A   
5-18   
27.8%

 :barf:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: fun muffin on January 12, 2013, 06:10:23 PM
Why is the KU game on the big 12 network?    :curse:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Skipper44 on January 12, 2013, 06:15:40 PM
Why is the KU game on the big 12 network?    :curse:
because Tech is the opponent and out helps the value of the package if they play a few games on it
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 12, 2013, 06:21:36 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year

I'll take that bet

1 beer to be paid at the next time we are at the same pak after big 12 bball season, whenever that may be
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kim carnes on January 12, 2013, 06:22:41 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year

I'll take that bet

1 beer to be paid at the next time we are at the same pak after big 12 bball season, whenever that may be

1 beer, that is a bold bet
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 12, 2013, 06:42:17 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year

I'll take that bet

1 beer to be paid at the next time we are at the same pak after big 12 bball season, whenever that may be

How about 1 drink?  I'm a cap'n & coke or long island man
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: cas4ksu on January 12, 2013, 07:39:22 PM
Here is how you beat KU:

Lock down on McLemore: He'll of course get his points but you've absolutely got to make some on else beat you.

Get Withey out of the paint: Shane could be big in order to spread the floor.

I'm not all that concerned about Releford or Young. They are both fine role players. Young gets most of his stuff off of cleaning up the offensive glass and doesn't have much confidence shooting the ball anything outside of 12-15 feet. Releford is a pretty good (but streaky) shooter from outside, but I feel like he is their fourth best option offensively.

Angel/Doc/Marty have to be on their A game defensively against McLemore and Johnson. The last three games I've seen, Johnson has been somewhat careless with the ball. With Angel pressuring, big key is without fouling, then I think we can speed him up and turn them over. However, when you speed up the game with KU they can exploit your pressure and break the pressure with lobs over the top. I remember last year in the game at OOD they must have had close to double digit lobs for either dunks or easy layups. Staying in front is key.

I think to beat KU you make Withey and Young beat you. While Withey is a dominant defensive player, his back to the basket game still isn't totally developed. Granted, I haven't seen all of the Big 12 teams play extensively. But I can't think of any other players that are as well equipped to guard Withey as JO. Only issue, is can he play more than 20 minutes without fouling out. Because I'm not sure he can. KU's depth doesn't concern me much at all Tharpe can penetrate as well as shoot a little from outside, but I am not too concerned with him on the offensive end. Perry Ellis and Traylor are the only two bigs that play significant minutes of the bench. Ellis, stealing a term from dlew here, has shown to be an unconfident loser thus far.

Offensively for the Cats, it'll be tough. Gotta get Rod going of course, and Angel needs to be agressive attacking the basket but he can't afford bad decisions. Last year he was awful against KU, not scoring a point and having 7 TOs.

Shane is definitely the straw that stirs the drink offensively this game. If he can open up the middle of the lane for driving and cutting.

Should be a tight game. Could be a top ten matchup (!).

Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 12, 2013, 07:57:46 PM
When your keys to winning are like 2000 words it means that we don't have a very good chance. 
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: TaqMan on January 12, 2013, 08:10:08 PM
 :lol:
When your keys to winning are like 2000 words it means that we don't have a very good chance.

  :bball:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kim carnes on January 12, 2013, 08:12:25 PM
When your keys to winning are like 2000 words it means that we don't have a very good chance.

we don't
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ChiComCat on January 12, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
This is that stretch where KU looks mortal up until they don't and dominate the conference.  I would love to play them in that stretch but Self, as does Snyder, knows in-state games are important even if the other team isn't very good.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: wetwillie on January 12, 2013, 08:29:42 PM
This is that stretch where KU looks mortal up until they don't and dominate the conference.  I would love to play them in that stretch but Self, as does Snyder, knows in-state games are important even if the other team isn't very good.

Here is how it will go for me.  Think we have no chance starting now, confidence will rise in the next few wins, few days before the game I will convince myself we have a legit shot, melt down when we get taint pushed.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: cas4ksu on January 12, 2013, 08:59:39 PM
I'm not concerned as much about KU's offense as I'm concerned about our ability to score.
Title: Re: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 12, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year

I'll take that bet

1 beer to be paid at the next time we are at the same pak after big 12 bball season, whenever that may be

How about 1 drink?  I'm a cap'n & coke or long island man
sure :D
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: fun muffin on January 12, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
Why is the KU game on the big 12 network?    :curse:
because Tech is the opponent and out helps the value of the package if they play a few games on it

i meant our game with them.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: wetwillie on January 12, 2013, 10:49:35 PM
Why is the KU game on the big 12 network?    :curse:
because Tech is the opponent and out helps the value of the package if they play a few games on it
j

i meant our game with them.

If a top ten team loses by 20 at home in conference and a national audience didn't see it, did it really happen?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 12, 2013, 10:58:52 PM
Why is the KU game on the big 12 network?    :curse:
because Tech is the opponent and out helps the value of the package if they play a few games on it
j

i meant our game with them.

If a top ten team loses by 20 at home in conference and a national audience didn't see it, did it really happen?
do bears crap in the woods?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: wetwillie on January 12, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
Why is the KU game on the big 12 network?    :curse:
because Tech is the opponent and out helps the value of the package if they play a few games on it
j

i meant our game with them.

If a top ten team loses by 20 at home in conference and a national audience didn't see it, did it really happen?
do bears crap in the woods?

Exactly.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on January 14, 2013, 08:13:04 PM
So KU will probably lose all five starters at the end of the year. Will they finish first in the league in 2014, or will they slide to tied for ffirst? :tsc:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2013, 08:28:11 PM
Why is it pronounced MacLemore?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 14, 2013, 08:30:07 PM
will they ever call the travel on his step back threes. :horrorsurprise:

he's pretty good.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kim carnes on January 14, 2013, 08:32:18 PM
We shouldn't even show up for the game in Lawrence.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2013, 08:36:37 PM
Baylor looks god awful
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 14, 2013, 08:43:19 PM
Kevin Young looks awful.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 14, 2013, 08:49:10 PM
I hope KU has a second half melt down
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 14, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
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Kevin Young looks awful.
You talking his game or his rough ridin' fugliness? Or both?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 14, 2013, 09:09:02 PM
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Kevin Young looks awful.
You talking his game or his rough ridin' fugliness? Or both?

both.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 14, 2013, 09:10:59 PM
ku is going to roll second half.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 14, 2013, 09:11:27 PM
Kevin Young looks awful.

i've wondered since he got there why in the world did ku take him.  he's awful and looks like sideshow bob.  and he his feet are about 6 sizes too big proportional to his body.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 14, 2013, 09:12:49 PM
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ku is going to roll second half.
No, no. Scottie's going to beam up some coaching'em up at halftime.
Title: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2013, 09:32:53 PM
I hate everything about AJ Walton
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 14, 2013, 09:37:09 PM
So, I'm not worried about Baylor on our schedule anymore
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 14, 2013, 09:41:08 PM
will they ever call the travel on his step back threes. :horrorsurprise:

he's pretty good.

Both of these teams rough ridin' suck. Every time Baylor takes to the rim they get tackled. On defense baylor's bigs looks like moths with that area under the basket the fluorescent light. Kevin Young slapping the eff out of everyone is the highlight of the game. That and the dozen times Isiah Austin has stuffed whity.
Title: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2013, 09:52:25 PM
how many decibels do you guys think the Hawksters got to tonight?  a ton?

Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 14, 2013, 09:54:48 PM
how many decibels do you guys think the Hawksters got to tonight?  a ton?

that's not how you measure decibels clams  :lol:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 14, 2013, 09:59:02 PM
welp
Title: KU looks mortal.
Post by: pissclams on January 14, 2013, 10:00:32 PM
this Brady haslip character (0 pts) will go 12-12 3pt against us
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 14, 2013, 10:02:03 PM
this Brady haslip character (0 pts) will go 12-12 3pt against us
no doubt
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Winters on January 14, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
I hate everything about AJ Walton
he is like so ugly
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 14, 2013, 10:07:31 PM
Did Brent Musberger just say Holly Rowe was really smokin' tonight? WTF?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: bones129 on January 14, 2013, 10:09:57 PM

Nothing Brent says surprises me. Absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kim carnes on January 14, 2013, 10:21:11 PM
Brent is great.  I'm pissed he isn't working with knight still.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: kstate16 on January 14, 2013, 10:24:52 PM
did mclemore get hurt or something?
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 14, 2013, 10:26:02 PM
did mclemore get hurt or something?

broken leg. will amputate.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: bones129 on January 14, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
FWIW, phog quoting Self as saying it's a sprain and McLemore will be good to go with a few days' rest.  :dunno:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 14, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
Time after time, a Baylor player would do something that would have any other coach in the nation bench him (give up inside position on the defensive board, throw a lazy pass in front of the defense), and Drew would let them play on.
Player's coach, I guess.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: DQ12 on January 14, 2013, 10:46:13 PM
Mclemore is injured in Self's pursuit to shamelessly run up the score. 

Sad, really.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: BWebbs0 on January 14, 2013, 10:50:53 PM
FWIW, phog quoting Self as saying it's a sprain and McLemore will be good to go with a few days' rest.  :dunno:

Great. Plenty of time to humiliate him at the Bram.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 14, 2013, 11:05:33 PM
Mclemore is injured in Self's pursuit to shamelessly run up the score. 

Sad, really.

Yep, KU is up by 20, and Self has the #1 draft pick out there breaking his ankle. Despicable.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 14, 2013, 11:11:05 PM
Mclemore is injured in Self's pursuit to shamelessly run up the score. 

Sad, really.

Yep, KU is up by 20, and Self has the #1 draft pick out there breaking his ankle. Despicable.

Already looking to 2014.  Self has a master plan.
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2013, 11:19:53 PM
Mclemore is injured in Self's pursuit to shamelessly run up the score. 

Sad, really.

Yep, KU is up by 20, and Self has the #1 draft pick out there breaking his ankle. Despicable.

Already looking to 2014.  Self has a master plan.

Turning Ellis into a 3 year player is even more impressive.
Title: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2013, 11:43:34 PM
Kevin Young looks awful.

Kevin Young is the early favorite to win the "KU player that mocat irrationally hates and would like to punch in the face despite TSC and stuff" sweepstakes
Title: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 15, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
Mclemore is injured in Self's pursuit to shamelessly run up the score. 

Sad, really.

Yep, KU is up by 20, and Self has the #1 draft pick out there breaking his ankle. Despicable.

Already looking to 2014.  Self has a master plan.

Turning Ellis into a 3 year player is even more impressive.

Uh, higher
Title: Re: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 06, 2013, 08:28:48 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year

I'll take that bet

1 beer to be paid at the next time we are at the same pak after big 12 bball season, whenever that may be

How about 1 drink?  I'm a cap'n & coke or long island man
sure :D

I should have cashed this in last night
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: KU looks mortal.
Post by: 8manpick on March 06, 2013, 11:18:44 PM
They are going to lose one or fewer conference games this year

I'll take that bet

1 beer to be paid at the next time we are at the same pak after big 12 bball season, whenever that may be

How about 1 drink?  I'm a cap'n & coke or long island man
sure :D

I should have cashed this in last night

Sometime soon, MiR, sometime soon.