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Look at OU's schedule, this three game stretch 9/28, 10/5, 10/12 :sdeek:
The SEC wins the NC every year because they never have elite teams with stretches like that
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OU won't be elite with Blake Bell at QB next year anyways.
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The Big 12 should be wide open and very fun yet again. I think the final standings will be
1. TCU
2. OSU
3. OU
4. Texas
5. Kansas State
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Texas Tech
9. Kansas
10. Iowa State
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OU won't be elite with Blake Bell at QB next year anyways.
Scanned an article the other day saying they had one of their best qb prospects in a very long time coming in.
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OU won't be elite with Blake Bell at QB next year anyways.
Scanned an article the other day saying they had one of their best qb prospects in a very long time coming in.
I doubt they start a true freshman when they have been building their fans up for the belldozer these past two years.
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Man didn't take Nuts Kicked long to fall into the Texas trap. How could anyone conceivably pick them to finish in the top four? They have the talent, as always, but there is nothing in their history to indicate that they should be picked that high. I doubt that redshirt QB is worth a crap, why else would he be a redshirt behind the two garbage QBs they had?
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Man didn't take Nuts Kicked long to fall into the Texas trap. How could anyone conceivably pick them to finish in the top four? They have the talent, as always, but there is nothing in their history to indicate that they should be picked that high. I doubt that redshirt QB is worth a crap, why else would he be a redshirt behind the two garbage QBs they had?
Every team behind them will be breaking in new QB's, and they finished 3rd this season.
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Yeah, unless TX gets that other QB guy we were going for, I will assume that they will be steered(get it?) by some worthless guy who may/may not be a rapist and who will lose a bunch of games he shouldn't.
Of all the woes college football teams have, I think Mack Brown not being able to have an extremely elite QBs tripping over each other to play for TX year after year is the one that puzzles me the most lately.
I mean, TX has the athletes to be spitting out highly drafted yet under performing NFL QBs constantly, similar to USC.
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Man didn't take Nuts Kicked long to fall into the Texas trap. How could anyone conceivably pick them to finish in the top four? They have the talent, as always, but there is nothing in their history to indicate that they should be picked that high. I doubt that redshirt QB is worth a crap, why else would he be a redshirt behind the two garbage QBs they had?
Every team behind them will be breaking in new QB's, and they finished 3rd this season.
They will to, Nuts Kicked
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OU won't be elite with Blake Bell at QB next year anyways.
Scanned an article the other day saying they had one of their best qb prospects in a very long time coming in.
I doubt they start a true freshman when they have been building their fans up for the belldozer these past two years.
yeah, the talk down here is that they're going to do a 2 qb system where they both play quite a bit each game. could be weird.
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Man didn't take Nuts Kicked long to fall into the Texas trap. How could anyone conceivably pick them to finish in the top four? They have the talent, as always, but there is nothing in their history to indicate that they should be picked that high. I doubt that redshirt QB is worth a crap, why else would he be a redshirt behind the two garbage QBs they had?
Every team behind them will be breaking in new QB's, and they finished 3rd this season.
They will to, Nuts Kicked
Maybe, but I would be kind of surprised if Ash doesn't win the job yet again. I guess I just don't see what is crazy about picking a team who just finished 3rd and is loaded with 5* talent to finish 4th next season. If anything, I think I might have picked them too low.
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The Big 12 should be wide open and very fun yet again. I think the final standings will be
1. TCU
2. OSU
3. OU
4. Texas
5. Kansas State
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Texas Tech
9. Kansas
10. Iowa State
I think OSU will be the team to beat. They are going to have a pretty salty team next season.
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The Big 12 should be wide open and very fun yet again. I think the final standings will be
1. TCU
2. OSU
3. OU
4. Texas
5. Kansas State
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Texas Tech
9. Kansas
10. Iowa State
I think OSU will be the team to beat. They are going to have a pretty salty team next season.
TCU is returning something like 10 starters on defense and their drugged up QB is out of rehab and set to return to the team this month.
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tcu and osu are definitely the top 2
probably a group of 6 teams that will fall in some sort of order after that, and then ku and iowa state bring up the rear
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I think if TCU gets/wants Pachall back, then they are the favorite in front of OSU (also, the TCU/OSU game will be in FW). After that? Who really knows. KSU gets 5 home games, however TCU and OU are two of them, though KU is a road game (although I do think they will be better – how can they be worse?). I think it might end up like this:
TCU
OSU
Baylor
OU
UT
KSU
KU
WVU
TT
ISU
Also, if you want something to laugh at that no one in the media will take into account, look at Alabama’s and A&M’s schedule next year. Absurdly easy.
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Look at OU's schedule, this three game stretch 9/28, 10/5, 10/12 :sdeek:
The SEC wins the NC every year because they never have elite teams with stretches like that
you forgot 10/19 :eek:
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Man didn't take Nuts Kicked long to fall into the Texas trap. How could anyone conceivably pick them to finish in the top four? They have the talent, as always, but there is nothing in their history to indicate that they should be picked that high. I doubt that redshirt QB is worth a crap, why else would he be a redshirt behind the two garbage QBs they had?
Every team behind them will be breaking in new QB's, and they finished 3rd this season.
They will to, Nuts Kicked
Maybe, but I would be kind of surprised if Ash doesn't win the job yet again. I guess I just don't see what is crazy about picking a team who just finished 3rd and is loaded with 5* talent to finish 4th next season. If anything, I think I might have picked them too low.
I'd rather have Sams or Waters in their first year as a starter than an experienced Ash
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Man didn't take Nuts Kicked long to fall into the Texas trap. How could anyone conceivably pick them to finish in the top four? They have the talent, as always, but there is nothing in their history to indicate that they should be picked that high. I doubt that redshirt QB is worth a crap, why else would he be a redshirt behind the two garbage QBs they had?
Every team behind them will be breaking in new QB's, and they finished 3rd this season.
They will to, Nuts Kicked
Maybe, but I would be kind of surprised if Ash doesn't win the job yet again. I guess I just don't see what is crazy about picking a team who just finished 3rd and is loaded with 5* talent to finish 4th next season. If anything, I think I might have picked them too low.
I'd rather have Sams or Waters in their first year as a starter than an experienced Ash
Yeah, but I would also like to have 5* players at RB, WR, OL DL, LB, CB, and S that Texas has.
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No way in hell TCU wins the conference, their OLine is water trash and they have to go to Norman and Stillwater.
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The Big 12 should be wide open and very fun yet again. I think the final standings will be
1. TCU
2. OSU
3. OU
4. Texas
5. Kansas State
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Texas Tech
9. Kansas
10. Iowa State
I think OSU will be the team to beat. They are going to have a pretty salty team next season.
TCU is returning something like 10 starters on defense and their drugged up QB is out of rehab and set to return to the team this month.
I think overall OSU has more talent and that will give them the edge. TCU will be 2nd or 3rd though.
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The Big 12 should be wide open and very fun yet again. I think the final standings will be
1. TCU
2. OSU
3. OU
4. Texas
5. Kansas State
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Texas Tech
9. Kansas
10. Iowa State
I think OSU will be the team to beat. They are going to have a pretty salty team next season.
Agreed on OSU. TCU is going to have a really nice defense (as always), but unless their QB situation works itself out, they're not going to go 7-2 (which is probably the floor every year for someone to at least get a share of the title.
I think KSU finishes top four. People are really underestimating how really favorable our schedule is next year. It's really pud.
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Anyone that has UK at 9 and not 10 has lost credibility with me.
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Anyone that has UK at 9 and not 10 has lost credibility with me.
kentucky is not in the big 12.
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Anyone that has UK at 9 and not 10 has lost credibility with me.
kentucky is not in the big 12.
And doesn't deserve to be.
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Anyone that has UK at 9 and not 10 has lost credibility with me.
Kansas won't finish last in the conference.
guns up
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The Big 12 should be wide open and very fun yet again. I think the final standings will be
1. TCU
2. OSU
3. OU
4. Texas
5. Kansas State
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Texas Tech
9. Kansas
10. Iowa State
That loser in Ames is good for a few wins each year.
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Of all the woes college football teams have, I think Mack Brown not being able to have an extremely elite QBs tripping over each other to play for TX year after year is the one that puzzles me the most lately.
I love Mack, but its pretty hilarious that the last two Heisman winners are guys he recruited as defensive backs.
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8 games at home with trips to Austin stilly and Lubbock equals 8 wins especially if our d is worth a crap
Big 12 winner will have 2 conference losses this year, pretty wide open
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The Big 12 should be wide open and very fun yet again. I think the final standings will be
1. TCU
2. OSU
3. OU
4. Texas
5. Kansas State
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Texas Tech
9. Kansas
10. Iowa State
That loser in Ames is good for a few wins each year.
Iowa State is exactly the same shitty team every year. Texas Tech could struggle in Kingsbury's first year, and KU might not be improved enough to be better than ISU, but I do think that KU will be better than last season. There is no clear last place finisher.
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The Big 12 should be wide open and very fun yet again. I think the final standings will be
1. TCU
2. OSU
3. OU
4. Texas
5. Kansas State
6. Baylor
7. West Virginia
8. Texas Tech
9. Kansas
10. Iowa State
That loser in Ames is good for a few wins each year.
Iowa State is exactly the same shitty team every year. Texas Tech could struggle in Kingsbury's first year, and KU might not be improved enough to be better than ISU, but I do think that KU will be better than last season. There is no clear last place finisher.
I had a friend of mine,who has a very low CFIQ and is a KU fan, that told me he thinks KU will be much improved and have a winning season of 8 wins. I just laughed and said based off of what? They will win 5 or less games. He seemed so heart broken that I could say such a thing. His only argument was that they were in a lot of close games and that they will pull those out next year. lol
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KU should win atleast 6 games next year. They will get more out of their qb (how could they not) and their defense will be much better with all the juco kids they got that turned us down.
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KU should win atleast 6 games next year. They will get more out of their qb (how could they not) and their defense will be much better with all the juco kids they got that turned us down.
I don't know, that's a stretch. I feel like the Big 12 will be up next year. My predicto is that they will lose 2 non con games and maybe squeeze out a few in conference play.
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ku is light years behind the rest of the conf and 20 jucos isn't going to change that. Anyone who has them higher than 10th is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I think isu and ttech struggle to get bowl eligible. If tcu can get decent qb play they might be the favorite. After that osu and ksu lose a lot on D but return good offense. OU will be good, UT will underachieve. Baylor and WVU will be interesting replacing prolific qb play.
1-4. OU, OSU, KSU, TCU
5-7. BU, UT, WVU
8-9. TTU, ISU
10. KU
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joe randle is going pro. bill young isn't coming back. so osu has to hire new coaches for both coordinator spots, and replace a great rb
ou has lost of ton of players and will have a new starting qb
seems like if tcu doesn't win the league then they should be kicked out
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ku is light years behind the rest of the conf and 20 jucos isn't going to change that. Anyone who has them higher than 10th is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I think isu and ttech struggle to get bowl eligible. If tcu can get decent qb play they might be the favorite. After that osu and ksu lose a lot on D but return good offense. OU will be good, UT will underachieve. Baylor and WVU will be interesting replacing prolific qb play.
1-4. OU, OSU, KSU, TCU
5-7. BU, UT, WVU
8-9. TTU, ISU
10. KU
I would go similar but think Baylor is going to be nasty. Supposed to have a great QB ready to take over. I think KSU and Baylor could both hit that top 4 and finish above a TCU, OU or OSU,. I do not think either Baylor or KSU could finish above all of them. Mind blowing prediction: ISU wins 3 conference games.
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joe randle is going pro. bill young isn't coming back. so osu has to hire new coaches for both coordinator spots, and replace a great rb
ou has lost of ton of players and will have a new starting qb
seems like if tcu doesn't win the league then they should be kicked out
I am hoping they bring Pachall back and end up with a QB controversy. Maybe add in more off field trouble as well.
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joe randle is going pro. bill young isn't coming back. so osu has to hire new coaches for both coordinator spots, and replace a great rb
ou has lost of ton of players and will have a new starting qb
seems like if tcu doesn't win the league then they should be kicked out
I am hoping they bring Pachall back and end up with a QB controversy. Maybe add in more off field trouble as well.
Pachall would be the starter. There would be no controversy. Everyone else they have is awful.
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crap, we might start 0-3 in confy
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crap, we might start 0-3 in confy
lol no
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jfc, I expect nothing less than 11-1 with our schedule. We leave the state once after October 5th and that is to welcome that ugly dumbfuck Dingleberry to the B12 down in Lubbock
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Texas won't finish ahead of K-State.
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KU is going to suck again. The best part of their team was their oline and their top 3 guys graduated. They actually graduated their best defenders as well; Opurem, McDougal, Josh Williams, Lubbock Smith etc. They had crappy WR's but they all graduated too. I don't see how you can pick Iowa State behind them they went into Lawrence on senior day and beat the crap out of them with a freshman QB. Plugging in a bunch of new juco kids and expecting them to turn it around by themselves is a joke. There isn't a single player or coach in Lawrence that knows how to win in the big 12.
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KU is going to suck again. The best part of their team was their oline and their top 3 guys graduated. They actually graduated their best defenders as well; Opurem, McDougal, Josh Williams, Lubbock Smith etc. They had crappy WR's but they all graduated too. I don't see how you can pick Iowa State behind them they went into Lawrence on senior day and beat the crap out of them with a freshman QB. Plugging in a bunch of new juco kids and expecting them to turn it around by themselves is a joke. There isn't a single player or coach in Lawrence that knows how to win in the big 12.
Where the eff is your TSC, man?
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I'm not sure if #13 is someone who will be back and play but :D
http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/KSU-BENCH.gif (http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/KSU-BENCH.gif)
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I'm not sure if #13 is someone who will be back and play but :D
http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/KSU-BENCH.gif (http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/KSU-BENCH.gif)
give that guy a couple towels and stand back
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KU is going to suck again. The best part of their team was their oline and their top 3 guys graduated. They actually graduated their best defenders as well; Opurem, McDougal, Josh Williams, Lubbock Smith etc. They had crappy WR's but they all graduated too. I don't see how you can pick Iowa State behind them they went into Lawrence on senior day and beat the crap out of them with a freshman QB. Plugging in a bunch of new juco kids and expecting them to turn it around by themselves is a joke. There isn't a single player or coach in Lawrence that knows how to win in the big 12.
Don't give in to the TSC crap. You are a good person, stay that way :emawkid:
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I think it's funny that KU fans say they should be picked to win the Big 12 in basketball every year until they lose it, but for some reason don't think they should be picked last in the Big 12 in football every year until they win a game.
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joe randle is going pro. bill young isn't coming back. so osu has to hire new coaches for both coordinator spots, and replace a great rb
ou has lost of ton of players and will have a new starting qb
seems like if tcu doesn't win the league then they should be kicked out
LOL!!! :lol:
College Football 2013 Predictions: Better, Worse or the Same for Top 50 Teams By Carl Stine(Featured Columnist) on January 8, 2013 37,956 reads
Whatever the verdict, read on for some analysis of each top 50 team going into next season and whether they will be better, worse or the same as the 2012 campaign.
50. Ole Miss Rebels (7-6)
Stacy Revere/Getty Images The Rebels are on the right track.
They finished the regular season with a 41-24 beating of Mississippi State in the Egg Bowl and then knocked off Pitt in the BBVA Compass Bowl, 38-17.
While they still had a losing record in the SEC, there is evidence that the program is heading for bigger things in the very near future.
Sophomore quarterback Bo Wallace, who finished the season with 27 total touchdowns, will be back and joined in the backfield by Jeff Scott, the Rebels' leading running back.
The defense improved from 90th in the nation in total defense in 2011 to 45th this season and returns all 11 starters to the unit that was second in the SEC in sacks.
Expect a solid season from the Rebs in 2013.
Prediction: Better
49. Washington Huskies (7-6)
William Mancebo/Getty Images Washington only won seven games this season, but is primed for a big year in 2013.
Leading rusher Bishop Sankey is returning, as is underrated quarterback Keith Price and his two primary targets.
With another year of experience and some mild improvement along the offensive line, this offense will be much better than the pedestrian 24 points per game they scored this season.
Couple that with a defense that has the potential to be one of the best in the Pac-12, and the Huskies are going to win at least nine games.
Prediction: Better
48. TCU Horned Frogs (7-6)
Christian Petersen/Getty Images
The strength of Gary Patterson's TCU teams has been the defense.
That's going to be the case in 2013, as the Horned Frogs are returning 10 defensive starters to a unit that can bring the pain.
Stud defensive lineman Stansly Maponga is returning for his senior year and will make a bid to be the best lineman in the Big 12.
On offense, quarterback is full of questions.
Casey Pachall has filed to be reinstated after being suspended from the team earlier in the season, but Trevone Boykin has shown some potential at the position as well.
Expect a battle at the position if Pachall is reinstated.
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College Football 2013 Predictions: Better, Worse or the Same for Top 50 Teams By Carl Stine(Featured Columnist) on January 8, 2013 37,956 reads
Whatever the verdict, read on for some analysis of each top 50 team going into next season and whether they will be better, worse or the same as the 2012 campaign.
48. TCU Horned Frogs (7-6)
The strength of Gary Patterson's TCU teams has been the defense.
That's going to be the case in 2013, as the Horned Frogs are returning 10 defensive starters to a unit that can bring the pain.
Stud defensive lineman Stansly Maponga is returning for his senior year and will make a bid to be the best lineman in the Big 12.
On offense, quarterback is full of questions.
Casey Pachall has filed to be reinstated after being suspended from the team earlier in the season, but Trevone Boykin has shown some potential at the position as well.
Expect a battle at the position if Pachall is reinstated.
Prediction: Better
37. Texas Tech Red Raiders (8-5)
Tommy Tuberville decided to leave for the greener pastures of Cincinnati, but this offense is not going to skip a beat.
Kliff Kingsbury has been excellent as the offensive coordinator at Texas A&M, helping produce the 2012 Heisman Trophy winner.
And now he takes the reins as the head coach of the Red Raiders.
Quarterback Seth Doege is gone, but Michael Brewer will likely take over the offense.
He completed 70 percent of his 48 attempts this season and is ready to take over and lead this offense, which is loaded with plenty of talent to catch the ball, including leading receiver Eric Ward.
Prediction: Better
30. Baylor Bears (8-5)
When Baylor enters a conversation, the word "defense" does not come up often, unless in reference to the Bears' deficiencies on that side of the ball.
The team is all about offense, and it shows in their stats, finishing the 2012 season fourth in the nation in passing yards and scoring and torching opponents for a ridiculous 44.5 points per game.
Here's the issue:
Quarterback Nick Florence is going to be gone, so there are obvious questions at the position.
But Lache Seastrunk returns, and if he continues to produce at the level he did in 2012, he will be a Heisman dark horse in 2013.
Art Briles knows how to make his teams productive on offense, but until they shore up the defense, the Bears are not going to make the jump from mediocre to very good.
Prediction: Same
24. Oklahoma State Cowboys (8-5)
Oklahoma State is not known for its defense.
That's not going to change in 2013.
But the offense, if anything, could be scarier than this season, when the team scored 45.7 points per contest.
If running back Joseph Randle returns, he has the potential to be one of the best backs in the country.
Both Clint Chelf and J.W. Walsh return at quarterback and have experience, while the team's leading receiver, Josh Stewart, is back as well.
Mike Gundy has been excellent at getting his team to score, and this team will do the same in 2013, hanging a ton of points on opponents.
Prediction: Better
14. Texas Longhorns (9-4)
Texas may finally break through next season.
David Ash will be back at quarterback, and if he progresses as much from 2012 to 2013 as he did in the previous offseason, the Longhorns are going to have a very capable quarterback at the helm.
Joe Bergeron and Johnathan Gray are back at running back and will power an extremely effective rushing attack that will help keep the offense balanced.
On defense, if Jackson Jeffcoat gets healthy, we will see a run defense that finished 100th in the nation in yards allowed find its way back into the upper echelons of run defenses.
Prediction: Better
12. Oklahoma Sooners (10-3)
Oklahoma's going to have an incredible offensive line, loaded with all kinds of experience and depth.
The wide receivers are talented and will be ready to produce.
It's behind that line where things are a problem.
Landry Jones is gone, and the quarterback position is up in the air.
Blake Bell appears to be the guy who will be tabbed to take over, but is he ready to throw the ball 500-plus times next season?
And then there is the defensive line.
It's atrocious, and if they play like the inexperienced line that they are, it's going to be a very difficult season for Bob Stoops' team.
Prediction: Worse
7. Kansas State Wildcats (11-2)
Running back John Hubert will be back next season, as will receiver Tyler Lockett.
But the heart and soul of both the offense and defense are leaving.
Arthur Brown and Meshak Williams have been the stars of the defense and will be extremely difficult to replace.
On top of that, Collin Klein, who finished third in Heisman voting this season and has had a stellar collegiate career, will not be around to carry the offense.
The Big 12 is up for grabs this in 2013, and K-State is going to find some tough sledding.
OH MY, WHAT"S THIS... BIG BAD KSU ON TOP OF THE BIG 12!
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i don't think you understand what he is saying.
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Katdaddy :facepalm:
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i don't think you understand what he is saying.
They ranked us #7 in the top 50 power rankings for '13 season. Dumb, dumb. :facepalm:
:dance:
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you just got katdaddyed!
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This is for the idiots that don't understand what a top 50 power ranking is:
College Football 2013 Predictions: Better, Worse or the Same for Top 50 Teams By Carl Stine(Featured Columnist) on January 8, 2013 37,956 reads
7. Kansas State Wildcats (11-2)
Running back John Hubert will be back next season, as will receiver Tyler Lockett.
But the heart and soul of both the offense and defense are leaving.
Arthur Brown and Meshak Williams have been the stars of the defense and will be extremely difficult to replace.
On top of that, Collin Klein, who finished third in Heisman voting this season and has had a stellar collegiate career, will not be around to carry the offense.
The Big 12 is up for grabs this in 2013, and K-State is going to find some tough sledding.
Prediction: Worse
6. Texas A&M Aggies (11-2)
Here's the deal with Texas A&M:
Johnny Manziel will be back to try to defend his Heisman Trophy and become only the second player to win in consecutive seasons.
Receiver Mike Evans is a proven stud at the position and will be primed to put up big numbers as the primary target in this offense.
Other than that, things are looking a little slim.
All other starting receivers are gone, and the offensive line is going to have some gaping holes to fill.
Defensively, the team's two leading tacklers are gone, both of them from the linebacker position.
Kevin Sumlin's offense is going to be explosive again, and with a second year in the program, Manziel is going to be tough to beat.
But there are some serious questions, so for the time being, let's just assume that the Aggies will maintain with strong potential to trend up.
Prediction: Same
5. Stanford Cardinal (12-2)
It was a great year for the Cardinal, capped off with the team's Rose Bowl win.
Next year leaves some questions, however.
Running back Stepfan Taylor is leaving, and the leading returning rusher is quarterback Kevin Hogan, who only started part of this season for the Cardinal.
For an offense predicated on the rushing game, that could be a problem.
The middle of the defense is going to take a hit.
You can't just replace linebacker like Chase Thomas and tackle Terrence Stephens.
The Cardinal will have a good season in 2013, but it's doubtful they will have near as solid a season as they did in 2012.
Prediction: Worse
4. Notre Dame Fighting Irish (12-0)
Yes, the Fighting Irish were dominated in the BCS title game, 42-14.
But head coach Brian Kelly is back, and the Irish are bringing plenty of talent as well.
Everett Golson is only going to continue to improve at quarterback, Louis Nix is coming back to anchor a stout defensive line and the secondary that was supposed to be a liability in 2012 should be a strength with guys returning from injury in 2013.
A perfect season is going to be tough to match, especially with Tyler Eifert and Manti Te'o gone, but there is still loads of talent in South Bend, and another BCS bowl appearance other than the title game might be in the cards.
I guess that would be considered a downgrade.
Prediction: Worse
3. Oregon Ducks (12-1)
This team is not slowing down at all in 2013.
The defense returns seven starters, and De'Anthony Thomas will take over full-time duties in the backfield.
Marcus Mariota will return for his encore season at quarterback, and with another year of experience under his belt, he is going to be scary good.
The Ducks just missed the Pac-12 title and national championship game in 2012 by virtue of a loss to Stanford.
Don't expect that again in 2013; whether Chip Kelly returns or not, this team is primed for a run at the national title.
Prediction: Better
2. Ohio State Buckeyes (12-0)
Buckeye fans are fired up about their perfect 2012 season and the prospect of repeating that feat in 2013.
But let's talk about that a bit.
All four of the Buckeye's starting defensive linemen are leaving, as are two starting linebackers and two more starters in the secondary.
That's a ton to replace on that side of the ball, even for an Urban Meyer-led team.
The offense will be fine; Braxton Miller is a magician with the ball, either on the ground or throwing it, and will be in Heisman discussions late into the season.
But that defense and the gaps in it really gives one pause.
The Big Ten is not loaded, however, and the Buckeyes face a ridiculously easy nonconference slate, which might be just enough for them to run the regular-season table again.
Prediction: Same
1. Alabama Crimson Tide (12-1)
The Alabama Crimson Tide finished the season as the best team in the nation.
And they could be better in 2013.
Quarterback A.J. McCarron announced in December that he would return for the 2013 season. He could change his mind, but for the time being, let's take it at face value.
Eddie Lacy has not yet declared his intentions, but if he stays, or even if he doesn't, the Tide will have one of the best backfields in the nation.
Defensively, the Tide lose little and have a wealth of talent returning.
The offensive line takes a hit, with Barrett Jones and Chance Warmack leaving for the NFL, but Nick Saban has been better than anyone at identifying talent and producing top-flight offensive lines.
The talk of a dynasty is getting sickening, but if some key guys return, the Tide will be right back in the national title game next season.
The fact that we ended the season ranked in the top ten should be enough to predict KSU to finish high. It's not that hard, guys. :gocho:
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I think we win our last game of the year (against KU) to get bowl eligible.
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katdaddy just wrecking fools in this thread
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katdaddy just wrecking fools in this thread
pretty impressive to watch
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katdaddy,
Thots on AP picking us to finish 12th nationally next year, and on coaches picking us to finish 11th?
:ksu:
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katdaddy,
Thots on AP picking us to finish 12th nationally next year, and on coaches picking us to finish 11th?
:ksu:
Thanks, slimz. You just helped the ole logic guru of pre-season predictions. Check this out.
My ridiculously early college football top-25 for 2013: Alabama’s No. 1, followed by Oregon and Ohio State
Posted by Jon Wilner on January 9th, 2013 at 9:19 am | Categorized as Alabama football, Arizona football, Arizona State football, Big Ten football, Boise State football, Florida football, Football Rankings, Fresno State football, KSU football, Nebraska football, Notre Dame football, Ohio State football, Oklahoma football, Oregon football, Oregon State football, Pac-12 football, SEC football, Stanford football, Texas football, UCLA football, Uncategorized, USC football, Washington football
Will be updated, if necessary, following NFL Draft deadline … and again after spring practice … and again in August.
Also considered (in no particular order): Miami, Michigan, Wisconsin, Oregon State, San Jose State, USC, Tulsa, Rutgers, Arizona State, Cincinnati, Baylor, Arizona, UCF, BYU and Northern Illinois.
25. Washington: If not next season, with all the returning talent … when?
24. Oklahoma: Not sold on the Sooners. Not sold on the Sooners at all.
23. Vanderbilt: At this point in the projections, we’re dealing with teams that should win eight games, give or take. The Commodores fit that description.
22. Fresno State: The Bulldogs return the bulk of their starters from a team that won nine games and have one of the top coaches in the west (Tim DeRuyter).
21. Georgia Tech: The defense that contained USC (with USC’s help, of course) returns nearly intact for another shot at the ACC Coastal.
20. Boise State: QB Joe Southwick’s back, although I’m not sure it matters. The Broncos are a top-15/20 team regardless of who’s under center as long as Chris Petersen’s on the sideline.
19. Texas Christian: Could be a top-10 team, depending on the fate of suspended QB Casey Paschall.
18: UCLA: QB Brett Hundley returns after a superb freshman season. The team to beat in the Pac-12 South until proven otherwise.
17. Texas: After playing so many underclassmen in ’12, the Longhorns should see the benefits next season. If you’re looking for a darkhorse title contender, consider the Longhorns.
16. Florida State: Significant losses on the field and the sideline, along with the high probability of FSU losing a game (or two) it has no business losing.
15. Notre Dame: Manti Te’o departs, as does most of the overpowering offensive line. A return to the BCS is unlikely, but the Irish won’t slip back into irrelevance.
14. Northwestern: QB Kain Colter leads a veteran team that coalesced faster than anyone expected in ’12.
13. Oklahoma State: With 15 starters scheduled to return, OSU is the team to beat in the Big 12.
12. Texas A&M: The Aggies lose a load of talent on the lines and their top receivers. And nobody will underestimate them. But with Johnny Football, it seems, anything’s possible.
11. KSU: Hard to imagine the Wildcats not contending for the national title with Sams in the mix.
10. Florida: The Sugar Bowl clunker wasn’t indicative of UF’s play over the course of the ’12 season, and it won’t be indicative of UF’s play throughout ’13.
9. Nebraska: Should have no trouble scoring with QB Taylor Martinez and a bevy of veteran playmakers. If the defense is merely decent, the Huskers could return to the BCS.
8. South Carolina: Well-stocked on offense and in possession of the best defensive player in the nation: defensive end Jadeveon Clowney.
7. Clemson: Hopkins, Watkins and Boyd: Sounds like a law firm, plays like a title contender.
6. Louisville: The Cardinals weren’t a one-year wonder, not with coach Charlie Strong and QB Teddy Bridgewater returning for ’13.
5. Stanford: More granite defense, more hit-and-miss offense … and more wins.
4. Georgia: Stud LB Jarvis Jones is off the the NFL, but QB Aaron Murray and a stellar set of playmakers return.
3. Ohio State: QB Braxton Miller leads a veteran offense (four returning starters up front) and what should be a solid, if not elite, defense.
2. Oregon: CK’s back, as are DAT and MM … all of which translates to another run at the NCG.
1. Alabama: The Tide returns the majority of its starting lineup, including QB AJ McCarron. No way to justify anyone else in the top spot.
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Did he just pick OSU as the team to beat in the big XII then rank us higher? Will. Take.
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time to make katdaddy a mod? I think yes?
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time to make katdaddy a mod? I think yes?
:blush:
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More predictions for '13:
Big 12 Football: Way Too Early Big 12 Power Rankings for 2013By Lisa Horne(Pac-12 and Big 12 Lead Writer) on January 9, 2013 3,204 reads
Jerome Miron-USA TODAY
Sports 2012 was a great season for Big 12 football with the league sending nine teams to various bowls. The bowl results were disappointing but not unexpected. Kansas State couldn't keep up with Oregon's speed in the Fiesta Bowl, and Oklahoma got spanked by Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl.
Still, for a conference that at one point two years ago was given its last rites, the conference has exceeded most football fans' expectations.
We've had some some coaching changes (Texas Tech coach head Tommy Tuberville to Cincinnati and Texas A&M offensive coordinator Kliff Kingsbury to Texas Tech) and some traditional powerhouses take some tumbles.
So how does 2013 look?
For many teams, it's not looking very good, but for others, it's time for some shock and awe.
No. 10: Kansas
Jamie Squire/Getty Images Kansas head coach Charlie Weis actually lost more games than his predecessor Turner Gill did in his final season—the Jayhawks went 1-11 last season while Gill's 2011 team went 2-10. That's not a great start.
But if you watched Jayhawks football last year, you noticed some positive changes—they weren't routed in every game and their defense, at times, completely overachieved.
This season we will see more wins but the Jayhawks won't be bowling.
No. 9: Iowa State
Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images Every year Iowa State seems to pull off a few upsets and 2012 was no different: the Cyclones beat TCU 37-23.
Paul Rhoads is one of the most underrated coaches in the country, but this season will test his patience because his defense, the third-best scoring defense in the conference, will lose some fantastic athletes.
Linebackers A.J. Klein and Jake Knott, both All-Big-12 first teamers, will be leaving.
I'm sure Rhoads will reload like he always does, and I'm sure he'll surprise a few teams in the fall—I'm not so sure he'll go bowling but as usual, don't count his Cyclones out.
No. 8 Baylor
Cooper Neill/Getty Images Remember when we thought Baylor would have a disappointing season after Robert Griffin III was drafted by the Washington Redskins? The Baylor Bears beat the UCLA Bruins in the 2012 Holiday Bowl.
Of course, now we won't ever doubt head coach Art Briles again, but the talent he loses, just like the previous year's losses, cannot be ignored.
Quarterback Nick Florence, receivers Lanear Sampson and Terrance Williams, guard Cameron Kaufhold, and center Ivory Wade, are all gone from the offense.
What if Cyril Richardson leaves for the NFL draft? That's still officially unknown, but one report indicates that he is returning for his senior year.
If that's the case, then we'll give Baylor a decent shot at bowling in the post season so we don't look foolish for dismissing that reload button of which Briles has master control.
No. 7 Texas Tech
Thomas Campbell-USA TODAY Sports Texas Tech was a nice surprise this year—especially on the defensive side—but the biggest surprise was then-head coach Tommy Tuberville bailing for Cincinnati. But that won't be the only loss by the Red Raiders.
The list is too long to mention every name, but some notable losses are quarterback Seth Doege and offensive lineman La'Adrian Waddle.
The Red Raiders' offense will be fun under Kingsbury—it was a blast to watch at Texas A&M—but he is a young coach with no experience in this capacity.
We'll call for a slightly down season, although—and this is a big although—Texas Tech only leaves the state of Texas three times (Kansas, West Virginia and Oklahoma) in the 2013 regular season.
That's incredible.
No. 6: West Virginia
Justin K. Aller/Getty Images Among the more notable losses: quarterback Geno Smith, receivers Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey and J.D. Woods, kicker Tyler Bitancurt and center Joe Madsen.
Breathe deep, Mountaineer fans, because 2013 is not going to be very magical. Respect for Dana Holgorsen aside, West Virginia went 7-6 with all of that talent.
The problem was its defense, and while it will get eventually fixed, the offense has to be totally rebuilt.
Six or seven wins seems like a big stretch but we'll give Holgorsen's genius an extra win just because.
No. 5: Oklahoma State
Ronald Martinez/Getty Images Oklahoma State looks like a monster on offense if running back Joseph Randle* decides to stay for his senior season. If Randle returns, then the Cowboys have a legitimate shot at strongly contending for the Big 12 crown.
The defense—specifically the front seven—gets a major hit on the line and at linebacker, but surprisingly, head coach Mike Gundy has reloaded every year without much fanfare so we'll give him the benefit of the doubt. After all, this year he only returned a handful of starters on the offense but still ended up with an 8-5 record.
Losing kicker/punter Quinn Sharp is bigger than some experts will admit.
*If Randle doesn't declare for the NFL draft then Oklahoma State moves to No. 2 in these Big 12 power rankings.
No. 4: Oklahoma
Justin K. Aller/Getty Images Well, this didn't turn out the way we originally thought it would. The Oklahoma Sooners finished the 2012 season going 10-3 and losing to the three best teams they faced: Kansas State, Notre Dame, and Texas A&M.
The losses on both sides of the ball are staggering, and that's why 2012 is a disappointment for so many reasons—it should have been Oklahoma's year.
Obviously, losing quarterback Landry Jones hurts, but so does losing Ben Habern, Demontre Hurst, Lane Johnson, Tony Jefferson, David King, and Kenny Stills. There are so many more losses yet 2013 won't be a bad season—it'll just be full of new faces.
Can Stoops work his magic and reload? Logic says no, but experience says yes. Nine wins seems like a challenging, yet not insurmountable goal.
No. 3: Kansas State
Doug Pensinger/Getty Images Quarterback and Heisman finalist Collin Klein is off to the NFL, and that alone is reason to downgrade this Kansas State team.
But only to No. 3? Yes, because Kansas State does all those Kansas State things that...well...you know...make LHC Bill Snyder a legend.
OK, so beside Klein, the Wildcats lose linebacker Arthur Brown, all four defensive line starters, kicker Anthony Cantele, and receiver Chris Harper. There are more losses but you get the drift here.
Normally, that would be grounds for hitting the panic button but Snyder hand selects talent at junior colleges—talent that usually has at least one or two years of experience—and then starts them right away. For a lot of his incoming players, there aren't a lot of bench-warming activities on their agenda.
This season will be tough, but we know better than to dismiss Kansas State as a Big 12 challenger. :bill:
No. 2: TCU
Christian Petersen/Getty Images Texas Christian is my surprise Big 12 team. What really solidified the Horned Frogs at No. 2 was cornerback Jason Verrett's decision to return for his senior year.
TCU could have the best defense in the Big 12 and Verrett is a big reason why. Defensive end Stansly Maponga is still a question mark on whether or not he'll return, but receiver Josh Boyce will not return. The loss of Boyce and senior Skye Dawson hurts on the offense but the defense looks great.
And defense wins championships. Look for TCU to take advantage of some other big boys' offensive losses and pull some upsets in challenging for the Big 12.
No. 1: Texas
Stacy Revere/Getty Images
Longhorn coach Mack Brown looked mighty angry at the end of the regular season, but he made it up to some down Texas fans when he and his team went to the Alamo Bowl and beat Oregon State 31-27.
The defense loses defensive end Alex Okafor and safety Kenny Vaccaro, but with some offseason tackling drills to get the rest of the defense back up to Texas standards, this team could challenge for the 2013 BCS Championship.
The offense loses receiver Marquise Goodwin. Other than that, Texas looks ready to roll and return to its rightful place at the top of the Big 12.
It's been awhile but welcome back.
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What were we ranked/predicted for 2004 in January of 2004?
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Texas is what Texas has become. They won't win the conference.
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The Big 12 is going to be dog crap next year.
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The Big 12 is going to be dog crap next year.
So it's going to be similar to the BIG?
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people talk about pachall as if he didn't not play football this year. i'm not so sure he's going to be able to just hop right back into the swing of things.
plus, has the world ever really seen a non drugged up casey pachall play QB successfully? i haven't, and i'm not sure anyone ever will.
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people talk about pachall as if he didn't not play football this year. i'm not so sure he's going to be able to just hop right back into the swing of things.
plus, has the world ever really seen a non drugged up casey pachall play QB successfully? i haven't, and i'm not sure anyone ever will.
Hadn't thought of that :dunno:
It'll be interesting going into the fall if shoelace Patterson sticks with the young Boykin QB or backs up his pizza faced addict
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The Big 12 is going to be dog crap next year.
So it's going to be similar to the BIG?
Probably
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The Big 12 is going to be dog crap next year.
So it's going to be similar to the BIG?
Probably
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Big 12 won't be nearly that shitty. The best team in our conference will at least get to play in a bowl game.
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I look forward to the Sooners defending their Big12 championship in a great way :emawkid: :excited: :emawkid:
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I look forward to the Sooners defending their Big12 championship in a great way :emawkid: :excited: :emawkid:
Oh man, they didn't tell you bob is leaving?
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people talk about pachall as if he didn't not play football this year. i'm not so sure he's going to be able to just hop right back into the swing of things.
plus, has the world ever really seen a non drugged up casey pachall play QB successfully? i haven't, and i'm not sure anyone ever will.
Hadn't thought of that :dunno:
It'll be interesting going into the fall if shoelace Patterson sticks with the young Boykin QB or backs up his pizza faced addict
I guess this kind of answers my question
http://espn.go.com/dallas/college-football/story/_/id/8840805/report-gary-patterson-says-casey-pachall-back-tcu (http://espn.go.com/dallas/college-football/story/_/id/8840805/report-gary-patterson-says-casey-pachall-back-tcu)
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people talk about pachall as if he didn't not play football this year. i'm not so sure he's going to be able to just hop right back into the swing of things.
plus, has the world ever really seen a non drugged up casey pachall play QB successfully? i haven't, and i'm not sure anyone ever will.
Hadn't thought of that :dunno:
It'll be interesting going into the fall if shoelace Patterson sticks with the young Boykin QB or backs up his pizza faced addict
I guess this kind of answers my question
http://espn.go.com/dallas/college-football/story/_/id/8840805/report-gary-patterson-says-casey-pachall-back-tcu (http://espn.go.com/dallas/college-football/story/_/id/8840805/report-gary-patterson-says-casey-pachall-back-tcu)
David Ubben ?@davidubben
It's official: Casey Pachall is back at TCU http://es.pn/X6bOMC
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That boy needs football in his life.
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10-2, back to the Cotton Bowl, where we will face Johnny Hate Crime. First play of the game, Devon Nash will break him in half.
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10-2, back to the Cotton Bowl, where we will face Johnny Hate Crime. First play of the game, Devon Nash will break him in half.
I want the Cats in the '14 Cotton Bowl so bad.
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10-2, back to the Cotton Bowl, where we will face Johnny Hate Crime. First play of the game, Devon Nash will break him in half.
I think the Aggies will be in a BCS bowl next season
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10-2, back to the Cotton Bowl, where we will face Johnny Hate Crime. First play of the game, Devon Nash will break him in half.
I think the Aggies will be in a BCS bowl next season
I can see that happening. I can also see a huge meltdown in Aggieland.
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10-2, back to the Cotton Bowl, where we will face Johnny Hate Crime. First play of the game, Devon Nash will break him in half.
This. :thumbs:
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/21558302/aggies-preseason-no-1-with-manziel-few-weaknesses-why-not
Dodd's giving the cats a little love for next year. At least, more than others.
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owl lukeland or luke borland, you pick.
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owl lukeland
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How was "owl borluke" not an option?
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How was "owl borluke" not an option?
yeah, ya know, i rushed it