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Title: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Kat Kid on December 30, 2012, 05:35:00 PM
Baylor going to destroy us 2x probs huh?
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2012, 05:37:31 PM
 :flush:
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Kat Kid on December 30, 2012, 05:42:33 PM
:flush:

That's my worry!  If you assume:

0-2 KU
0-2 Baylor
0-2 Okie State and you are already at 12-6 and on a knife's edge.
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: kso_FAN on December 30, 2012, 05:45:55 PM
Hard to say based on Tay and Angel not playing. MO
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2012, 05:47:37 PM
You think the zone made us shoot 0% on dunks and 30% on layups?  You think both our pgs will be out the rest of the year?  Or was it the 10 minutes of zone the inexplicably abandoned?
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Kat Kid on December 30, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
You think the zone made us shoot 0% on dunks and 30% on layups?  You think both our pgs will be out the rest of the year?  Or was it the 10 minutes of zone the inexplicably abandoned?

Jump to conclusions mat out in full force.  We looked pretty bad against their zone.  I was not extrapolating that out to the entire game because they didn't play zone the whole game.  I also agree that having no Tay/Angel makes it hard to tell.  But props for actually responding with some actual observations.  Baby steps I guess...
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2012, 05:58:57 PM
In any game where we miss point blank shots, put zero effort into rebounding and miss over half our free throws we will "struggle".

This is my honest opinion.  Whatever UMKC does on D is irrelevant.
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Kat Kid on December 30, 2012, 06:36:07 PM
In any game where we miss point blank shots, put zero effort into rebounding and miss over half our free throws we will "struggle".

This is my honest opinion.  Whatever UMKC does on D is irrelevant.

Oh I agree completely.  I wasn't really trying to say that the Roo's D was our main problem in the game.  You identified two keys that caused the game to be closer than it was.  Overall I think there are big problems with our offense, I'm not really sure what those are.  I did notice that we were particularly inept against their zone though and going forward that could spell trouble for us against a team that we should probably get one from. 

But thank you for posting your honest opinion.  Not being sarcastic at all.  The motivation behind these three posts was to try to get people talking about basketball.
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: kso_FAN on December 30, 2012, 06:44:04 PM
The motivation behind these three posts was to try to get people talking about basketball.

Good job KK.
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2012, 06:48:48 PM
When umkc was in zone Shane and Will looked like they thought the basket was at half court.  Angel will carve that crap up.

Sidenote, remember how terrible Franks 3-2 was?  Automatic 3 pts for the opponent.
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2012, 06:53:51 PM
Why you need a legit ball handler instead of a ball mover.  Penetration is the death of zone defense.
Title: Re: God we looked like crap against their 3-2 zone!
Post by: Kat Kid on December 30, 2012, 07:10:34 PM
When umkc was in zone Shane and Will looked like they thought the basket was at half court.  Angel will carve that crap up.

Sidenote, remember how terrible Franks 3-2 was?  Automatic 3 pts for the opponent.

lol yes.

always strange considering how good our traps could be.