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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Winters on December 20, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
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Yeah, it's early but what do you think?
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no
woof, the stuff you're RT'ing on twitter is sad.
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Second the no.
Really want to give up and "oh well" it, but not there yet.
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i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.
i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.
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i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.
i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.
When you don't know how to rationally analyze something you go with what you have had drilled into you. I would guess that young tucks are second gen KStaters at min.
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i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.
i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.
From personal experience I'd have to estimate the tuck to gE ratio in the student section in 2010 and 2011 is not favorable to us by any means.
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I think we're further than I thought we'd be at.
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i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.
i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.
I'd say it is pretty 50/50 when it comes to students. Which is pretty awful. :blank:
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50/50 is generous, too. I'd guess that it's closer to 60/40 tuck to gE.
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As long as John Currie is athletic director, oscar is not going to be fired until at least 2015. Other than a campaign to get rid of Currie, there just is not a fight worth fighting.
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Games like Gonzaga are the only things turning fans right now.
At this point Twitter banter isn't going to accomplish much at all. I know lots of people that most here would call tucks that are very skeptical of oscar. In fact, I'm not sure I've talked to any person that is blindly supporting him like you see from some (which are a vast minority) at gp or kstatefans. That said, most are patient and will give him a chance, but like me will want him gone if they continue to see bad basketball.
JMHO, some smear campaign against him right now is probably counter productive.
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Topic: screenshot of winters
Topic: A Reason to Hope
Winters, the fate of the KSU MBB Program is in your hands.
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Games like Gonzaga are the only things turning fans right now.
At this point Twitter banter isn't going to accomplish much at all. I know lots of people that most here would call tucks that are very skeptical of oscar. In fact, I'm not sure I've talked to any person that is blindly supporting him like you see from some (which are a vast minority) at gp or kstatefans. That said, most are patient and will give him a chance, but like me will want him gone if they continue to see bad basketball.
JMHO, some smear campaign against him right now is probably counter productive.
Yeah, it's very important that any movement against him is based on facts and doesn't focus on his personality too much. But I think a lot of people here know that.
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i feel like having oscar block me (and trim/winters/others) on twitter before conference play is a win.
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i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.
i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.
We have all ages too.
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when we start getting dusted in confy. we will be winning then
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When we lose to Lonnie and KU at home in back to back games and then roll over at ISU victory will be in hand.
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Reminds me of the Woolbury years, people did not care until football team struggled
As long as Weber smiles, acts goofy, does not make noise he will be allowed to bury our program
On this day in 2010 we were in the top 10
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Reminds me of the Woolbury years, people did not care until football team struggled
As long as Weber smiles, acts goofy, does not make noise he will be allowed to bury our program
On this day in 2010 we were in the top 10
Completely and totally different. Wooly got a long rope because we had forgot how to win. Asbury didn't get a long leash BTW, his situation was totally different than Wooly's. We are coming off the best 5 year stretch in the last 60 years, he won't be given the same rope that Wooly did, not even close, its dumb to think otherwise. This talking point is stupid and needs to die, you aren't the first to say it nor will be the last.
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i get lots of "likes" on facebook when i post about firing currie and weber and i have no gE's on my facebook. i think we are on the way to winning the war.
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It must be exhausting bbs'n, using twitter, AND having a fb page. Just can't do it.
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Completely and totally different. Wooly got a long rope because we had forgot how to win. Asbury didn't get a long leash BTW, his situation was totally different than Wooly's. We are coming off the best 5 year stretch in the last 60 years, he won't be given the same rope that Wooly did, not even close, its dumb to think otherwise. This talking point is stupid and needs to die, you aren't the first to say it nor will be the last.
Yes, and soon. Its a completely reactionary talking point.
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Define “long rope”? I think the analogy is Altman, not Wooly. But imo, 4 years is too long for oscar. After 3 years you’re going to have to approach contact extension talks - or whether or not there are even contract extension talks to be had. You should know after 3 years what you have.
Currie will give him 4 regardless, imo. We could go to the NIT for 3 straight years and he’d give him a 4th. I don’t think people realize how quickly expectations can/will plummet. There’s already a “oscar didn’t get left with very good ‘basketball’ players” sentiment which will resonate with most of our fan base – even the ones that forked over the money. That sentiment fits in well with the “Hoosiers” type picture that the old (re: money) donors have of basketball.
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I don’t think people realize how quickly expectations can/will plummet.
They nosedived on March 31st
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I don't know if it's more depressing that Currie would give oscar 4 years or that Currie will probably still be at K-State 4 years from now.
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Completely and totally different. Wooly got a long rope because we had forgot how to win. Asbury didn't get a long leash BTW, his situation was totally different than Wooly's. We are coming off the best 5 year stretch in the last 60 years, he won't be given the same rope that Wooly did, not even close, its dumb to think otherwise. This talking point is stupid and needs to die, you aren't the first to say it nor will be the last.
Yes, and soon. Its a completely reactionary talking point.
there is some truth to what he is saying though. kstate and their fans care more about basketball when the football team is bad and less about it when the football team is good. if the football team was going to bcs bowls instead of getting blown out by ku, huggins never would have ended up at kstate. but we were in a bad stretch of football, so he did. not sure how anyone could disagree with this. the premise is just that the fans and the admin as a whole care less and won't be as bother by 8-10 conf seasons if fball is kicking ass.
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Completely and totally different. Wooly got a long rope because we had forgot how to win. Asbury didn't get a long leash BTW, his situation was totally different than Wooly's. We are coming off the best 5 year stretch in the last 60 years, he won't be given the same rope that Wooly did, not even close, its dumb to think otherwise. This talking point is stupid and needs to die, you aren't the first to say it nor will be the last.
Yes, and soon. Its a completely reactionary talking point.
there is some truth to what he is saying though. kstate and their fans care more about basketball when the football team is bad and less about it when the football team is good. if the football team was going to bcs bowls instead of getting blown out by ku, huggins never would have ended up at kstate. but we were in a bad stretch of football, so he did. not sure how anyone could disagree with this. the premise is just that the fans and the admin as a whole care less and won't be as bother by 8-10 conf seasons if fball is kicking ass.
Thats absurd, conference play in basketball is two months after the regular season ends in football, 3.5 for March Madness. There isn't one single program in the country that just neglects basketball in lieu of football. Hell even Nebraska, seemingly the model for basketball neglect built a new basketball arena. You would have a point if the seasons ran concurrently. No athletic department is going to sleep on a 8 month sports season because the first four went well. I must have misunderstood your post because what I think I read was crazy.
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He didn't say that the athletic dept was going to give up on bball. He is saying that tha AD is less likely to do anything rash when football is good (hire Huggins/fire oscar). They, and we as fans, are more likely to accept the status quo as acceptable. Rick Daris is correct on this issue.
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I have a lot of tucks that follow me on twitter. Fwiw, most of them are starting to follow my message with RT's and bickering with one another when I start a weber twitter meltdown. That's good, right? :dunno:
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I have a lot of tucks that follow me. Fwiw, most of them are starting to follow my message with RT's and bickering with one another when I start a weber twitter meltdown. That's good, right? :dunno:
I don't think so. I have never had as much twitter follower turnover as I have this week with all the extra anti-oscar twitter time I have been able to spend.
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I don’t think people realize how quickly expectations can/will plummet. There’s already a “oscar didn’t get left with very good ‘basketball’ players” sentiment which will resonate with most of our fan base.
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He didn't say that the athletic dept was going to give up on bball. He is saying that tha AD is less likely to do anything rash when football is good (hire Huggins/fire oscar). They, and we as fans, are more likely to accept the status quo as acceptable. Rick Daris is correct on this issue.
you have one word in your post that acts like a hedge and could be used to change the conversation. RD didn't use that word.