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Title: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: BMWWcat on December 07, 2012, 03:14:39 PM
Oh, Man.  :ksu:

too bad our D will be decimated...
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2012, 03:22:44 PM
We are going to have a very explosive offense next season. It is going to be a joy to watch. We also will probably start the season unranked, so the climb should a lot of fun, as well.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 07, 2012, 03:27:29 PM
we won't win as many games but we will be a lot of fun to watch
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2012, 03:29:02 PM
I think we have a very good shot at winning 8 or maybe even 9 games next season. It should set things up nicely for some really good teams in '14 and '15, as long as we can put a solid defense together.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Frankenklein on December 07, 2012, 03:34:58 PM
   I'm not giving up on our D for next year.Our young O line was a big ? coming into this year and look at the results they got.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
Well, next year, we have big ?'s and DL, LB, and DB. Odds are against us getting the kind of results at each of those positions that our OL got this season. Also, I expect Sams to be inconsistent, just like any other QB in his first season as a starter.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2012, 03:40:02 PM
Well, next year, we have big ?'s and DL, LB, and DB. Odds are against us getting the kind of results at each of those positions that our OL got this season. Also, I expect Sams to be inconsistent, just like any other QB in his first season as a starter.

also new K and P though I like our prospects at both positions
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 07, 2012, 04:03:47 PM
I would like to say 10 wins but the Big 12 is very strong and will only be stronger next year. We'll go 3-0 OOC and then there are only 3 sure conference wins: KU, ISU and WVU.  UT, Baylor, TTU will be tossups and OU, OSU and TCU should be losses.  I would be pretty damn happy with an 8-9 win season. (of course I say this now, but come season I will probably be pissed off if we don't win the MNC)
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
Looking at the Big 12, there is not a single team that I would put in the "should lose" category other than maybe TCU, but there are about 6 games that I would call toss ups.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 07, 2012, 05:00:51 PM
I think we have a very good shot at winning 8 or maybe even 9 games next season. It should set things up nicely for some really good teams in '14 and '15, as long as we can put a solid defense together.

I would say 8-9 as well assuming Sams plays well enough.  The o-line and Hubert should make it easier for him as there won't be a ton of pressure on him to do everything.  The defense is one massive question mark across the board.  We will learn a lot about Tom Hayes' coaching ability.  We'll need to plug some holes for sure...I haven't really looked at our recruiting for next year but I understand it's pretty meh so far.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2012, 05:04:11 PM
I think we have a very good shot at winning 8 or maybe even 9 games next season. It should set things up nicely for some really good teams in '14 and '15, as long as we can put a solid defense together.

I would say 8-9 as well assuming Sams plays well enough.  The o-line and Hubert should make it easier for him as there won't be a ton of pressure on him to do everything.  The defense is one massive question mark across the board.  We will learn a lot about Tom Hayes' coaching ability.  We'll need to plug some holes for sure...I haven't really looked at our recruiting for next year but I understand it's pretty meh so far.

It's pretty meh, but it always is. I think the biggest problem is the number of holes we have to fill. I'm sure we will do fine in some areas, but holes in a defense are like holes in a boat. If you don't plug them all, the boat still sinks.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on December 07, 2012, 05:15:30 PM
we won't win as many games but we will be a lot of fun to watch
Things we said last year ... This is a prime example of not learning from our mistakes.  :dubious:
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 07, 2012, 05:21:53 PM
We're gonna be good.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Domino on December 07, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
Well, next year, we have big ?'s and DL, LB, and DB. Odds are against us getting the kind of results at each of those positions that our OL got this season. Also, I expect Sams to be inconsistent, just like any other QB in his first season as a starter.

also new K and P though I like our prospects at both positions

Who is the Punter now that Doerr is gone?
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Winters on December 07, 2012, 05:25:56 PM
we won't win as many games but we will be a lot of fun to watch
Things we said last year ... This is a prime example of not learning from our mistakes.  :dubious:
I doubt we would win 11 games.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Domino on December 07, 2012, 05:29:30 PM
I would like to say 10 wins but the Big 12 is very strong and will only be stronger next year. We'll go 3-0 OOC and then there are only 3 sure conference wins: KU, ISU and WVU.  UT, Baylor, TTU will be tossups and OU, OSU and TCU should be losses.  I would be pretty damn happy with an 8-9 win season. (of course I say this now, but come season I will probably be pissed off if we don't win the MNC)

How will it be stronger? The top 5 QBs are gone, UT's QB situation is still uncertain, how much more improved will TCU's offense be? OU is losing their best guys on D and starting a new QB that will be worse than Jones.

That said, 10-2 is as optimistic as I go for next season. 8-4 wouldn't upset me, though.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 07, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
I would like to say 10 wins but the Big 12 is very strong and will only be stronger next year. We'll go 3-0 OOC and then there are only 3 sure conference wins: KU, ISU and WVU.  UT, Baylor, TTU will be tossups and OU, OSU and TCU should be losses.  I would be pretty damn happy with an 8-9 win season. (of course I say this now, but come season I will probably be pissed off if we don't win the MNC)

How will it be stronger? The top 5 QBs are gone, UT's QB situation is still uncertain, how much more improved will TCU's offense be? OU is losing their best guys on D and starting a new QB that will be worse than Jones.

That said, 10-2 is as optimistic as I go for next season. 8-4 wouldn't upset me, though.

OSU will be better. Baylor will be better. Texas tech will be better. TCU will be better. Texas will be better. OU will still be OU. ISU will be just as good.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on December 07, 2012, 05:37:03 PM
I would like to say 10 wins but the Big 12 is very strong and will only be stronger next year. We'll go 3-0 OOC and then there are only 3 sure conference wins: KU, ISU and WVU.  UT, Baylor, TTU will be tossups and OU, OSU and TCU should be losses.  I would be pretty damn happy with an 8-9 win season. (of course I say this now, but come season I will probably be pissed off if we don't win the MNC)

How will it be stronger? The top 5 QBs are gone, UT's QB situation is still uncertain, how much more improved will TCU's offense be? OU is losing their best guys on D and starting a new QB that will be worse than Jones.

That said, 10-2 is as optimistic as I go for next season. 8-4 wouldn't upset me, though.
9 games is the logical answer so with the LHC Bill Snyder bump (+3) we will win 12 and improve. It is really not that hard guys. 
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 07, 2012, 05:38:31 PM
we aren't very good at talking about the o-line on this site.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: AbeFroman on December 07, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
Our schedule is great next year. 8 home games for a new QB, most of the good teams at home (OU, TCU, Baylor's offense). If we can get past @Texas and @OSU we might be in for another ride.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Skipper44 on December 07, 2012, 06:27:07 PM
@OSU is the only game I would be shocked if we won.

I don't think BU or TT will be much better after losing senior qbs.   Baylor prolly loses Williams to the draft as well.
 
9-3 sounds good, 2nd to 10-2 pokes and set up a #life championship senior campaign
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: MakeItRain on December 07, 2012, 07:15:34 PM
@OSU is the only game I would be shocked if we won.

I don't think BU or TT will be much better after losing senior qbs.   Baylor prolly loses Williams to the draft as well.
 
9-3 sounds good, 2nd to 10-2 pokes and set up a #life championship senior junior campaign

He's only a freshman this year.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Skipper44 on December 07, 2012, 07:52:35 PM
Oh man, I knew that.

So, back to back is on the table  for Sams then
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Boom Roasted on December 07, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
10-2 back to the Cotton Bowl. Book your hotels now.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2012, 09:46:28 PM
Well, next year, we have big ?'s and DL, LB, and DB. Odds are against us getting the kind of results at each of those positions that our OL got this season. Also, I expect Sams to be inconsistent, just like any other QB in his first season as a starter.

also new K and P though I like our prospects at both positions

Who is the Punter now that Doerr is gone?

don't remember his name but kicked well in early game(s)
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 07, 2012, 09:50:07 PM
I remember I was pretty butthurt how well he kicked because I liked Doerr.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Pete on December 07, 2012, 10:11:55 PM
Guys, I am nervous about the 2004 effect.


The Offense may be better than 2004, simply because of Sams (remember, we did have Sproles in 2004).


I am really, really concerned about defense.  Like really.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Skipper44 on December 07, 2012, 10:25:40 PM
oline was poor, Dyls(rip) couldn't  start healthy and the D talent level fell off cliff.

Two differences and only one similarity!
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: yosh on December 07, 2012, 10:59:29 PM
http://www.nationalchamps.net/2004/sub/previews/kansasstate.htm
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2012, 11:13:28 PM
http://www.nationalchamps.net/2004/sub/previews/kansasstate.htm

 :frown:
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 08, 2012, 08:56:11 AM
10-2 back to the Cotton Bowl. Book your hotels now.

 :cheese:

Title: Re: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: ben ji on December 08, 2012, 09:20:50 AM
Guys, I am nervous about the 2004 effect.


The Offense may be better than 2004, simply because of Sams (remember, we did have Sproles in 2004).


I am really, really concerned about defense.  Like really.


We will be fine, the success of a snyder coached team is predicated on how good his QB is...its as simple as that. He can have a stud running back(sproles, dtrain) and still suck but when he hasa good QB its a one way ticket to 10 wins.
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: ChiComCat on December 08, 2012, 09:44:30 AM
If I had to pick one devensive player to be back, it would be Brown.  If I had to pick a second thought, Zimmerman.  Having experience back there will help the new players quite a bit.  I am just scared we go back to Cosh Defense without Brown.  He might be the lynch pin
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: steve dave on December 08, 2012, 09:46:19 AM
If I had to pick one devensive player to be back, it would be Brown.  If I had to pick a second thought, Zimmerman.  Having experience back there will help the new players quite a bit.  I am just scared we go back to Cosh Defense without Brown.  He might be the lynch pin

bold statement saying the b12 defensive player of the year will be missed chicat
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: doom on December 08, 2012, 09:49:57 AM
It will be a mess, but I think coach em up can make it manageable.  And our offense is designed to protect our defense. 
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: 'taterblast on December 08, 2012, 09:50:25 AM
as long as they pick us below 5th in the conference, we'll be fine. RIGHT GUYS?
Title: Re: 2013: Best O-Line in College Football???
Post by: purplehaze on December 08, 2012, 09:53:38 AM
idk guys i thought we were going to suck on the interior DL and we're pretty good so like who knows mysteries surround us i guess