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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: michigancat on November 14, 2012, 11:24:57 AM
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I mean, if he puts up a 1998 schedule, I don't think we're number one right now. Conversely, if he plays a BCS OOC opponent in 98 instead of 3 complete puds, they might have been #2 going into the Dr. Pepper.
Or does it not matter since we're doing the selection committee thing now?
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I mean, if he puts up a 1998 schedule, I don't think we're number one right now. Conversely, if he plays a BCS OOC opponent in 98 instead of 3 complete puds, they might have been #2 going into the Dr. Pepper.
Or does it not matter since we're doing the selection committee thing now?
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I see football is affecting someone's bball fanship.
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Surely Miami wasn't that much of a boost?
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Man, this reminds me of Bill Walker vs UT. I'm not sure what to say really.
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Surely Miami wasn't that much of a boost?
Compared to our 1998 schedule? Yeah, probably. Having a higher percentage of games being in-conference helps a lot, too, as does non having SOS as a BCS component (when it is already factored into computers).
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I didn't realize, but Sagarin had the Big 12 as the best conference in 98, and he does this year as well.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc98.htm
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm
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Now my post is pointless :shakesfist:
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i don't think any of it matters. winning all games is all that matters. schedules all the puds you can. imo.
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i don't think any of it matters. winning all games is all that matters. schedules all the puds you can. imo.
SEC can confirm.
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With the combo of 9 conference games and four playoff slots, I expect Snyder to double down on his philosophy and play the shittiest non-con in the history of football (read: KU 2007 non-con) every year going forward. I fully support this.
I wonder if he will try and get out of the Auburn return trip? May have already.
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I didn't realize, but Sagarin had the Big 12 as the best conference in 98, and he does this year as well.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc98.htm
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm
Amazingly the Big 10 was even ahead of the $EC as well....
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I would say no - both seasons will likely boil to down to win them all and you are in.
I would love to see us schedule quality OC match ups in places we do and/or should recruit (Southeast, California) but with only 3 non cons I am not sure it will be an every year thing. With the top 4 system coming I do believe KSU could make top 4 with a loss, especially if we finish this season with a NC.
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With the combo of 9 conference games and four playoff slots, I expect Snyder to double down on his philosophy and play the shittiest non-con in the history of football (read: KU 2007 non-con) every year going forward. I fully support this.
I wonder if he will try and get out of the Auburn return trip? May have already.
Yep. Especially with where we were sitting before Bama lost, with everyone saying Oregon was going to catch up to us and pass us. Oregon played a mostly-terrible schedule and beat up on everyone and has been rewarded by the human voters. What point would there be in playing a tougher non-con if that's how it's going to be? Play chumps and hang 60 on them is the obvious lesson to be learned there.
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I didn't realize, but Sagarin had the Big 12 as the best conference in 98, and he does this year as well.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc98.htm
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm
the final AP poll from 98
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg231.imageshack.us%2Fimg231%2F3206%2F50632319.png&hash=e95f00cced612a3a13723df210cee861259ab071)
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With the combo of 9 conference games and four playoff slots, I expect Snyder to double down on his philosophy and play the shittiest non-con in the history of football (read: KU 2007 non-con) every year going forward. I fully support this.
I wonder if he will try and get out of the Auburn return trip? May have already.
Yep. Especially with where we were sitting before Bama lost, with everyone saying Oregon was going to catch up to us and pass us. Oregon played a mostly-terrible schedule and beat up on everyone and has been rewarded by the human voters. What point would there be in playing a tougher non-con if that's how it's going to be? Play chumps and hang 60 on them is the obvious lesson to be learned there.
yeah. this season is a perfect example. kstate and oregon were supposed to play each other. they cancelled and now both are currently in the title game if they just win out. one team would not be in if they would've played.
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Snyder is done after we win the NC. Moot point.
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I would say 2 puds and 1 meh BCS team would be better than 3 puds. The key is to keep scheduling meh BCS teams that people will think are good in preseason. Notre Dame has been doing it for years. We need to schedule a Boston College or Arizona State.
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I feel like the real rusty would PI the crap out of this garbage thread, wtf is going on
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With the combo of 9 conference games and four playoff slots, I expect Snyder to double down on his philosophy and play the shittiest non-con in the history of football (read: KU 2007 non-con) every year going forward. I fully support this.
I wonder if he will try and get out of the Auburn return trip? May have already.
I think Snyder may be considering the state of that program. Even with a home run hire (Petrino, Gundy, Patterson) it seems unlikely they will be good enough to win in Manhattan, they have won only 1 road game since Cam left.
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I don't think it's a given that we're in if you replace Miami with a pud. Obviously the computers will be affected, but so would the human polls, which is where we get all of our edge on ND.
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I don't think it's a given that we're in if you replace Miami with a pud. Obviously the computers will be affected, but so would the human polls, which is where we get all of our edge on ND.
Agree, it was a nice, early win to piss pound a "good" team and get some attention.
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I didn't realize, but Sagarin had the Big 12 as the best conference in 98, and he does this year as well.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc98.htm
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm
the final AP poll from 98
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg231.imageshack.us%2Fimg231%2F3206%2F50632319.png&hash=e95f00cced612a3a13723df210cee861259ab071)
Arizona? Tulane?! Air Force?! Georgia Tech?? damn i dont remember crap.
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nope
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Notre Dame had the most difficult schedule of the three on paper, and arguably in actuality to this point in time. Notre Dame is in third place.
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I didn't realize, but Sagarin had the Big 12 as the best conference in 98, and he does this year as well.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc98.htm
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm
the final AP poll from 98
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg231.imageshack.us%2Fimg231%2F3206%2F50632319.png&hash=e95f00cced612a3a13723df210cee861259ab071)
Arizona? Tulane?! Air Force?! Georgia Tech?? damn i dont remember crap.
Tulane with Shaun King at the helm and coached by Tommy Bowden
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I didn't realize, but Sagarin had the Big 12 as the best conference in 98, and he does this year as well.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc98.htm
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm
the final AP poll from 98
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg231.imageshack.us%2Fimg231%2F3206%2F50632319.png&hash=e95f00cced612a3a13723df210cee861259ab071)
Arizona? Tulane?! Air Force?! Georgia Tech?? damn i dont remember crap.
Tommy Bowden led Tulane to an undefeated season. I think Shaun Smith was his QB. Arizona beat Nebraska in the Holiday Bowl IIRC.
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I would say 2 puds and 1 meh BCS team would be better than 3 puds. The key is to keep scheduling meh BCS teams that people will think are good in preseason. Notre Dame has been doing it for years. We need to schedule a Boston College or Arizona State.
This, I like when we play some "bigger" name teams like UCLA/Miami/Auburn but they aren't necessarily world beaters. We should sched. 2 crappy teams and then a team from the big10/big east/acc/pac 12 that gives intrigue and an sense of playing a better schedule but little/no risk of losing. Looking at you Illinois, BC, Wake Forest, Cals et. al of the world
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Playing crappy BCS teams could be the difference between not bowling or the pinstripe. If you're looking at a legit bowl (BCS/Cotton), you'll win them.
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I would say 2 puds and 1 meh BCS team would be better than 3 puds. The key is to keep scheduling meh BCS teams that people will think are good in preseason. Notre Dame has been doing it for years. We need to schedule a Boston College or Arizona State.
This, I like when we play some "bigger" name teams like UCLA/Miami/Auburn but they aren't necessarily world beaters. We should sched. 2 crappy teams and then a team from the big10/big east/acc/pac 12 that gives intrigue and an sense of playing a better schedule but little/no risk of losing. Looking at you Illinois, BC, Wake Forest, Cals et. al of the world
The dilema is, those teams want 3 pud teams cause they know their team sucks. They would never agree to a two game ass whooping we would give them.
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LFBIQ fans help here? I don't even....
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Utah, Call, Wash St., Southern Flo., and the Illini all only have 1 or 2 non-cons scheduled currently for 2014... just saying
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Everyone thinks they're the first person to come up with the "play terrible bcs teams" scheduling philosophy.
Guess what. Everyone wants to play Indiana and Wake and Cal for their ooc.
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I think scheduling shitty SEC teams is the way to go so we can talk about how garbage the SEC is. Bring on Auburn!
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Where was Boise BCS wise when Brotzman missed those two against Nevada? Even with their crap schedule they would have been in if I remember right.
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Everyone thinks they're the first person to come up with the "play terrible bcs teams" scheduling philosophy.
Guess what. Everyone wants to play Indiana and Wake and Cal for their ooc.
From a computer standpoint you are way better off playing a good MAC or WAC team or other mid major than a poor major conf team.
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Everyone thinks they're the first person to come up with the "play terrible bcs teams" scheduling philosophy.
Guess what. Everyone wants to play Indiana and Wake and Cal for their ooc.
From a computer standpoint you are way better off playing a good MAC or WAC team or other mid major than a poor major conf team.
Not necessarily. They all compute SOS differently, so difficult to know exactly which is better. And of course perception is big for human polls.
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Where was Boise BCS wise when Brotzman missed those two against Nevada? Even with their crap schedule they would have been in if I remember right.
Nope. That was 2010, and the title game ended up being 13-0 Auburn vs 12-0 Oregon, with 12-0 TCU on the outside looking in. Undefeated Boise State would have taken Ohio State's at-large bid to the Sugar Bowl and played Pig Aggie. After they mumped up against Nevada, they plummeted all the way to the Las Vegas Bowl.
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Wow. Woof.
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No. The chances of more than 2 teams undefeated let alon more than 4 when the playoffs start are next to nothing. Win all your games regardless of strength and you're in.
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Does anyone remember if we still have a return trip from Auburn coming our way? Seems like we do, but I can't remember in what year it was supposed to be.
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Does anyone remember if we still have a return trip from Auburn coming our way? Seems like we do, but I can't remember in what year it was supposed to be.
2014
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/futureschedules.html
and next year's lineup of puds should help our young defense and #life round into form
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Here is the 2014 Non-con
2014
August 30 - Stephen F. Austin
September 20 - Auburn
September 27 -UTSA
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Hey, we did it again SD!