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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: SdK on November 13, 2012, 10:22:53 PM
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I know it's a Division II team. I'm not sure what it means for the future or how this team will play against tougher competition, but I like what I'm seeing from the team. I wasn't sure what to expect, but I like the style with which the team is playing.
I didn't want oscar, and I will cringe for a while when I see him on the sidelines or hear him talk. I will have no problems supporting this team and will try to make it to as many games as I can this season.
Go state.
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:ksu:
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I'm in. It's nice to see these guys having fun.
Shane and Tay's handshake?! :love: :love: :love:
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I like the team. I'd guess they'll be ranked at some point this season.
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I got a text that oscar bought pizza for everyone....or something.
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I like the team. I'd guess they'll be ranked at some point this season.
easily imo
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this is the best we've looked in my lifetime (dead serious)
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Shane shooting 3's, 16 points :sdeek:
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I think we'll definitely beat some D-1 teams this year! :emawkid:
Shane! DJamer going for the loose ball earlier doberman style. Will! DOBing all over the place.
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/scratches head
What just happened?
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I got a text that oscar bought pizza for everyone....or something.
This is a great post.
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this is the best we've looked in my lifetime (dead serious)
The toughness leftover from Martin plus a better offense equals a good season hopefully. I'm worried about the future though when Martins players graduate and the toughness is gone.
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:confused: did you guys think we wouldn't be any good this year?
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this is the best we've looked in my lifetime (dead serious)
The toughness leftover from Martin plus a better offense equals a good season hopefully. I'm worried about the future though when Martins players graduate and the toughness is gone.
DJamer seems to play pretty tough.
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Delaware beat Virginia, I think we can handle the Delaware whatevers.
Washington lost to Albany.
UNT lost to Harmony Middle School.
FL Gulf Coast beat Miami.
Craziness.
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this is the best we've looked in my lifetime (dead serious)
The toughness leftover from Martin plus a better offense equals a good season hopefully. I'm worried about the future though when Martins players graduate and the toughness is gone.
DJamer seems to play pretty tough.
That's just the type of player he is. David Hoskins played insanely tough but the teams he played on were soft.
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this is the best we've looked in my lifetime (dead serious)
Yeah, you're full of crap, but I'm OK with it. #GOCATS!
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:confused: did you guys think we wouldn't be any good this year?
Oh, I figured we'd be good. But winning by 61? Regardless of D1, D2, etc., we'll, that's odd.
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:alleyoop: :alleyoop: :alleyoop:
sprads => JO
wut :love:
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Ecstatic to see Will feeding the post
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:confused: did you guys think we wouldn't be any good this year?
I didn't think we would suck, I just wasn't sure what to expect. Turns out, my love of the bball team hasn't diminished. Call me a bad fan or whatever, but I wasn't sure how I'd feel until I saw a few games.
:love:
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Michigan would be a good game. I think we can beat them.
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So glad the majority of our team doesn't have a broken shoot anymore. :thumbs:
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Simply put, Weber is a master.
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OT: I saw a lot of :bball: and :combofan: at the game tonight. :thumbs:
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I didn't like it when he pulled Will after his travel in the first half.
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But I still think we'll be pretty darn good this year, like I did before the season started.
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Frank-esque substitution patterns notwithstanding.
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Def. thought we'd be pretty decent this season. Pro. would have been predicted around 4th if Frank was still here. Was a little meh heading into the season from being very :sdeek: at the chicken nuggets hire, but was going wait and hold off chicken nuggets judgement until next season barring increds success or monumental collapse. We seem pretty good, fun to watch, and they are our same adorablecats just with a chicken nuggets loving anti-Frank as a head coach.
Gonna enjoy the ride. Judgment robe comes on next fall.
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Guys, my phone flashed a notification at me tonight to let me know that basketball season has started so I checked the score and saw we held some pud team to 20 points. I have no idea what is going on here and I apologize for having my head up the football team's butt so far. Not used to this. Anyway, uh, I'm ready now. Where is Frank, btw? What's going on with that?
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:confused: did you guys think we wouldn't be any good this year?
If its this bad here, just imagine what it's like with the rest of our fan base.
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:confused: did you guys think we wouldn't be any good this year?
If its this bad here, just imagine what it's like with the rest of our fan base.
Yeah. Currie counted on this.
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I got a text that oscar bought pizza for everyone....or something.
Impermissible benefits? It was a fun ride cats. Get ready for a shitstorm.... :flush:
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:confused: did you guys think we wouldn't be any good this year?
If its this bad here, just imagine what it's like with the rest of our fan base.
Yeah. Currie counted on this.
Yes. Which just pisses me off even more.
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I enjoy watching this team. and not passive aggresively enjoy.
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haven't watched a second of their games yet and probably won't. you guys are so wishy-washy.
fanning went full-tuck on twitter last night after they beat a d2 team. good lord.
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I enjoy watching this team. and not passive aggresively enjoy.
yeah they're fun although I am quite disturbed at how much effect I allow Will Spradling to have on my viewing experience
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I will probably buckle the minute I actually watch a game. But I'm not close enough to "in" to DVR a game and watch it the next day yet.
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I enjoy watching this team. and not passive aggresively enjoy.
yeah they're fun although I am quite disturbed at how much effect I allow Will Spradling to have on my viewing experience
that's understandable. omari bothers me a lot but at least he doesn't get minutes like Will.
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I'm excited for some K-State basketball, i will need to get used to hearing
nails hate-eff a chalkboard oscar Weber talk.
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I enjoy watching this team. and not passive aggresively enjoy.
I honestly think they're lazier. I'm sure I'm imagining a lot of it, but I'm sure they're playing with a little less intensity. But man, hearing commentators talk about how "oscar doesn't need to teach these guys how to work hard because Frank already did it for him!" just rough ridin' infuriates me.
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I enjoy watching this team. and not passive aggresively enjoy.
I honestly think they're lazier. I'm sure I'm imagining a lot of it, but I'm sure they're playing with a little less intensity. But man, hearing commentators talk about how "oscar doesn't need to teach these guys how to work hard because Frank already did it for him!" just rough ridin' infuriates me.
I think the defensive and rebounding intensity has been fine so far and I'm not sure where you are getting the "lazier" perception.
I do agree with the oscar/Frank comment that continues to be repeated though, that's dumb.
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I enjoy watching this team. and not passive aggresively enjoy.
I honestly think they're lazier. I'm sure I'm imagining a lot of it, but I'm sure they're playing with a little less intensity. But man, hearing commentators talk about how "oscar doesn't need to teach these guys how to work hard because Frank already did it for him!" just rough ridin' infuriates me.
I think the defensive and rebounding intensity has been fine so far and I'm not sure where you are getting the "lazier" perception.
I do agree with the oscar/Frank comment that continues to be repeated though, that's dumb.
Getting back on defense seems little slow, if someone takes a chance at a steal, the recovery seems lacksadaisical. If someone's man has the ball, there's a lot of standing out straight and walking toward the defender. Obviously a lot of it is due to the intense on-ball pressure Frank demanded that drove a lot of people crazy, but still. Like, I feel like Omari and Nino are loafing, too, and can see why they never saw the court for Frank.
Also the fact that I don't care as much and haven't watched the games super closely is part of it.
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I noticed what MICat is talking about too. Especially what he said about recovery from steal attempts. But I don't trust myself to make a bias free comparison to previous teams.
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Anybody that thinks oscar defense is worst then franks is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), if you are going to complain about something, complain about rebounding because there is logic/stats behind it.
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Anybody that thinks oscar defense is worst then franks is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), if you are going to complain about something, complain about rebounding because there is logic/stats behind it.
It seemed like a lot of the same on the verge of fouling, if not actually fouling on the ball defense at least to me. I'll defer on every other aspect though, as my game watching abilities come with blinders.
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good grief, there are more feelings in this thread than a hallmark store
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Anybody that thinks oscar defense is worst then franks is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), if you are going to complain about something, complain about rebounding because there is logic/stats behind it.
Frank had a better AdjD than oscar three out of his five seasons. I'm referring to effort in general that can't really be measured, though. Things like 50-50 balls, being super intense all the time, and michigancat's general enjoyment.
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good grief, there are more feelings in this thread than a hallmark store
I'm not a robot, pissclams.
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good grief, there are more feelings in this thread than a hallmark store
I did start the thread, so it was kind of a given. :D
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I do agree with the oscar/Frank comment that continues to be repeated though, that's dumb.
I'm pretty sure oscar started this.
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i'm just used to cold hard statistical facts on these message boards.
none of this, i think i saw this or i might have saw that, crap
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You're really limiting your existence clams.
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i'm just used to cold hard statistical facts on these message boards.
none of this, i think i saw this or i might have saw that, crap
so far they've played three games and have won by an average of 37. exactly what stats should we take as meaningful at this point in time?
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i'm just used to cold hard statistical facts on these message boards.
none of this, i think i saw this or i might have saw that, crap
so far they've played three games and have won by an average of 37. exactly what stats should we take as meaningful at this point in time?
exactly, none, which is exactly why i didn't suggest we compare anything. exactly.
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i'm just used to cold hard statistical facts on these message boards.
none of this, i think i saw this or i might have saw that, crap
so far they've played three games and have won by an average of 37. exactly what stats should we take as meaningful at this point in time?
exactly, none, which is exactly why i didn't suggest we compare anything. exactly.
lock the board until we have meaningful stats to post and talk about then? :dunno:
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Would be good for the Big 12 if K-State could climb into the top 25 and stay there all year long. oscar knows how to coach. The only question is whether or not he can recruit well enough to win in the long-term.
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Would be good for the Big 12 if K-State could climb into the top 25 and stay there all year long. oscar knows how to coach. The only question is whether or not he can recruit well enough to win in the long-term.
yeah this beems. bitchy, butt hurt fans can only hurt the cause.
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i'm just used to cold hard statistical facts on these message boards.
none of this, i think i saw this or i might have saw that, crap
so far they've played three games and have won by an average of 37. exactly what stats should we take as meaningful at this point in time?
exactly, none, which is exactly why i didn't suggest we compare anything. exactly.
lock the board until we have meaningful stats to post and talk about then? :dunno:
yup, that's exactly what i suggested!
rick daris, playing better defense than oscar weber could have ever coached, ever.
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i'm just used to cold hard statistical facts on these message boards.
none of this, i think i saw this or i might have saw that, crap
so far they've played three games and have won by an average of 37. exactly what stats should we take as meaningful at this point in time?
exactly, none, which is exactly why i didn't suggest we compare anything. exactly.
lock the board until we have meaningful stats to post and talk about then? :dunno:
yup, that's exactly what i suggested!
well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but i'll vote against it if it comes to that.
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Would be good for the Big 12 if K-State could climb into the top 25 and stay there all year long. oscar knows how to coach. The only question is whether or not he can recruit well enough to win in the long-term.
yeah this beems. bitchy, butt hurt fans can only hurt the cause.
Does it hurt as much as getting fired from your last job? What do the stats say?
clams?
CLAAAMMMS!!!??!?!?
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What do the stats say?
3-0
:gocho:
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Would be good for the Big 12 if K-State could climb into the top 25 and stay there all year long. oscar knows how to coach. The only question is whether or not he can recruit well enough to win in the long-term.
yeah this beems. bitchy, butt hurt fans can only hurt the cause.
Does it hurt as much as getting fired from your last job? What do the stats say?
clams?
CLAAAMMMS!!!??!?!?
you don't want to know. it's very very bad, i'll tell you that much.
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Anybody that thinks oscar defense is worst then franks is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), if you are going to complain about something, complain about rebounding because there is logic/stats behind it.
Frank had a better AdjD than oscar three out of his five seasons. I'm referring to effort in general that can't really be measured, though. Things like 50-50 balls, being super intense all the time, and michigancat's general enjoyment.
I disagree about this, with the exception being Gip, Omari, Tay, Diaz and JO. None of them seem as intense/motivated. JO looked pretty pumped/motivated last night though so maybe that is a change. But there are others who definitely seem hungrier that more than off-sets those guys decline/opportunity to show they are lazy/unmotivated. For example DJamer has brought the funk every second he's been on the floor, Will definitely has a pep in his step he hasn't and Angel was as committed to moving his feet and defending without his hands as ever last game. Now obviously there was zero opportunity for him to get frustrated or really be challenged on quicks, but he certainly wasn't lacksadaisical.
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I got a text that oscar bought pizza for everyone....or something.
Impermissible benefits? It was a fun ride cats. Get ready for a shitstorm.... :flush:
You're better than this.
I just know it.
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First game I was able to watch and I was torn inside. Maybe it will get easier.
Win was fine. The team we played was terrible. They had wide open 3s all night and couldn't hit them. Perimeter defense needs work. Really excited about DJamer after seeing him play. Omari had some terrible turnovers. May have just been lazy late game blowout stuff. I see what was said about Orris not looking to score at all. If he is going to be servicable in the future, he needs to find a way to get some garbage points/FTs or something. His layup was nice. Angel was glorious. Will looked more '10 than '11.
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Mixed-Nutz has become a really annoying poster.
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Mixed-Nutz has become a really annoying poster.
I kinda like him
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I feel good about liking this team. And I don't even need to struggle with it. :D
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I like the team and don't struggle with that at all. Liked them last year, and really like DJamer.
No one here wants the players to fail.
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I like the team and don't struggle with that at all. Liked them last year, and really like DJamer.
No one here wants the players to fail.
Realistically no one wants coach chicken nuggets to fail. We all just expect him to based on past results. He could end up being great, but based on what happened when he got his own players in at Illinois that isn't likely. I expect the team to be good this year. It's the future that I am concerned about.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Spradling fail.
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We will be ok this season but nothing special. DJamer has impressed me and not much else
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We will be.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Spradling fail.
lol
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Realistically no one wants coach chicken nuggets to fail.
you're wrong
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I wouldn't mind seeing Spradling fail.
Frank?
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Realistically no one wants coach chicken nuggets to fail.
you're wrong
yes, he is. i want him to fail quickly and spectacularly. because i fear him failing slowly and in a way almost imperceptible to john q. katfan.
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yeah, not only am i expecting him to fail, i'm pretty pumped at the thought of it.
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I hope he succeeds beyond all expectations. But suspect we'll see a replay of his Illinois tenure without quite as spectacular early results.
john q. catfan is perceptive enough to notice lack of NCAA tournaments, bottom half of Big 12 finishes and lots of home losses.
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If oscar fails, it will most likely be the end of our resurgence into relevance. It will most likely be a slow failure. Ppl will hold hope and see silver linings for a few years, then ppl will be disappointed for a season or two. Then, next thing you know, it we will be entering the 2017 season and our team will be predicted to finish in the bottom third of the conference for the second season in a row and no one will care enough to be angry.
Either he fails and we lose BB for what will most likely be a long time, or he succeeds enough so that, in 5-7 yrs, we have enough respect nationally for a new decent coach to take us forward.
oscar failing is the end of this board.
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oscar failing is the end of this board.
it's too bad that you took the time to edit your post and forgot to erase this dumbass comment.
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oscar failing is the end of this board.
it's too bad that you took the time to edit your post and forgot to erase this dumbass comment.
Here is clams to tell me I am wrong again. Tell me "clams", how much fun is a ksu bb board going to be if oscar sucks it up for several yrs?
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oscar failing is the end of this board.
it's too bad that you took the time to edit your post and forgot to erase this dumbass comment.
Here is clams to tell me I am wrong again. Tell me "clams", how much fun is a ksu bb board going to be if oscar sucks it up for several yrs?
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pro tip: we had a fine time bbs'n during wooly, huggs, no huggs, martin, snyder v.1, prince, etc
maybe you have a mystery meaning for "oscar failing is the end of this board."
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Personally, I would like for oscar to win us a national championship this season, and then move on to greener pastures next year so we can go get a good coach. I'm skeptical that oscar has it in him, though. We are probably looking at a slow, painful, downward spiral for Cat hoops.
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oscar failing is the end of this board.
it's too bad that you took the time to edit your post and forgot to erase this dumbass comment.
Here is clams to tell me I am wrong again. Tell me "clams", how much fun is a ksu bb board going to be if oscar sucks it up for several yrs?
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pro tip: we had a fine time bbs'n during wooly, huggs, no huggs, martin, snyder v.1, prince, etc
maybe you have a mystery meaning for "oscar failing is the end of this board."
referencing the BB board, not goEMAW in general. My meaning wasn't literal. The quantity of those participating will be much less if we experience extended failure.
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pro tip: quantity does not equal quality
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CNS is 100% right on this
There was almost no cat hoops BBSing prior to ksufans. Even then, it was either next coach talk or threads about the NIT bubble that turned in next coach talk.
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CNS is 100% right on this
There was almost no cat hoops BBSing prior to ksufans. Even then, it was either next coach talk or threads about the NIT bubble that turned in next coach talk.
pro tip: quantity does not equal quality
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Inverse relationship IMO
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< glances over at football board >
:sdeek:
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I came of age as a bbs'er during the Wooldridge era. It was a great time for me.
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I came of age as a bbs'er during the Wooldridge era. It was a great time for me.
Which is preferable. Then or the last 5-6 yrs?
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I came of age as a bbs'er during the Wooldridge era. It was a great time for me.
Which is preferable. Then or the last 5-6 yrs?
Well, the last few years. GRCOAT would be like, impossible to top.
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I came of age as a bbs'er during the Wooldridge era. It was a great time for me.
Which is preferable. Then or the last 5-6 yrs?
Well, the last few years. GRCOAT would be like, impossible to top.
GRCOAT was really a tough time for me. I remember having some post about rather having Martin Xeno than Michael Beasley, and everyone just ignoring it because they were having such an awesome time.
I was still getting over the disappointment of Marques Hayden and was trying to warn people about Beasley. Really funny looking back. I was such a product of bad basketball I had no idea how to respond to the new era.
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I came of age as a bbs'er during the Wooldridge era. It was a great time for me.
It was an excellent time to BBS. Ahearn board on GPC and kstatefans had some good times.
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It was a great time because there were so many Wabashers who were so entranced by the football success they couldn't see the forest through the trees when it came to Wooldridge . . . and I admit I supported Wooldridge at first, just like I have every other K-State coach until they proved they couldn't do the job. It took me about 1.5 years to completely turn on Wooldridge, maybe a little longer. But that sounds about right.
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Personally, I would like for oscar to win us a national championship this season, and then move on to greener pastures next year so we can go get a good coach. I'm skeptical that oscar has it in him, though.
Yes, if oscar wins us a national championship, I also hope we can parlay that momentum into getting us a good coach. Wait, what...
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I came of age as a bbs'er during the Wooldridge era. It was a great time for me.
It was an excellent time to BBS. Ahearn board on GPC and kstatefans had some good times.
great fun, loved posting and checking back every 2-3 days to see if anyone had responded.