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Post by: AbeFroman on November 06, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
 :cheese: <---- but walking much slower, towards Colorado, with an oz.
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2012, 10:51:46 PM
The best stuff is already in co, you don't need to bring your own.
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Post by: AbeFroman on November 06, 2012, 11:18:55 PM
The best stuff is already in co, you don't need to bring your own.

The best stuff in Kansas is from Colorado
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2012, 11:38:34 PM
 :thumbs:
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Post by: Stevesie60 on November 07, 2012, 12:37:16 AM
So how does this work with piss tests? Can you say you were toking up in Denver a couple days ago, and everything is good?
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2012, 12:38:37 AM
pretty much up to the employer anyway.
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Post by: 8manpick on November 07, 2012, 12:29:48 PM
So how does this work with piss tests? Can you say you were toking up in Denver a couple days ago, and everything is good?


Does anyone know how this works in Colorado currently?  Like if you have a medical card, can your employer fire you for a positive marijuana test?
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 07, 2012, 12:59:49 PM
So how does this work with piss tests? Can you say you were toking up in Denver a couple days ago, and everything is good?


Does anyone know how this works in Colorado currently?  Like if you have a medical card, can your employer fire you for a positive marijuana test?

None of this matters as long as it stays illegal on the federal level. It does free up the local law enforcement to ignore it's use at certain levels, but there will always be the threat of a federal crackdown. It just happened in LA and San Diego in recent months with medical pot dispensaries.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 07, 2012, 01:45:57 PM
So how does this work with piss tests? Can you say you were toking up in Denver a couple days ago, and everything is good?


Does anyone know how this works in Colorado currently?  Like if you have a medical card, can your employer fire you for a positive marijuana test?

Even if marijuana is legal, I would think a company could institute a strict anti-marijuana policy and fire employees who fail tests.
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Post by: 8manpick on November 07, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
So how does this work with piss tests? Can you say you were toking up in Denver a couple days ago, and everything is good?


Does anyone know how this works in Colorado currently?  Like if you have a medical card, can your employer fire you for a positive marijuana test?

Even if marijuana is legal, I would think a company could institute a strict anti-marijuana policy and fire employees who fail tests.

Could they?  Can they institute a strict anti-alcohol policy and do the same?  Legitimately asking.

Obviously not talking about being under the influence at work, of course that is fireable.
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Post by: slobber on November 07, 2012, 01:52:17 PM
So how does this work with piss tests? Can you say you were toking up in Denver a couple days ago, and everything is good?


Does anyone know how this works in Colorado currently?  Like if you have a medical card, can your employer fire you for a positive marijuana test?

Even if marijuana is legal, I would think a company could institute a strict anti-marijuana policy and fire employees who fail tests.

Could they?  Can they institute a strict anti-alcohol policy and do the same?  Legitimately asking.

Obviously not talking about being under the influence at work, of course that is fireable.
Pilots are 12 hours bottle to throttle. They get fired for breaking this. I'd think that they could certainly drink 8 hours before a flight and have no alcohol in their system.
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Post by: CNS on November 07, 2012, 03:19:04 PM
I know this isn't the case, but if the weed is grown, sold, and consumed in the one state, I don't think the fed should be able to have any say what so ever.  Now, if CO was growing and found to be shipping to KS, then by all means, the fed should be allowed to do something for now.

Stupid govt.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 08, 2012, 01:51:04 AM
So how does this work with piss tests? Can you say you were toking up in Denver a couple days ago, and everything is good?


Does anyone know how this works in Colorado currently?  Like if you have a medical card, can your employer fire you for a positive marijuana test?

Even if marijuana is legal, I would think a company could institute a strict anti-marijuana policy and fire employees who fail tests.

Could they?  Can they institute a strict anti-alcohol policy and do the same?  Legitimately asking.

Obviously not talking about being under the influence at work, of course that is fireable.

Yes, you can be fired if you tested positive for alcohol.  Just because its legal to use it isn't a right.  The NCAA, NBA, MLB, MLS, NASCAR and NFL have already issued press releases that marijuana usage in those states are still banned by those governing bodies.
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Post by: Stevesie60 on November 08, 2012, 02:35:47 AM
So my interpretation is that no big corporations can start selling it/distributing it in those states because the federal government will still come in and shut it down? But also, you can smoke anywhere and no federal official is going to care?
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Post by: mocat on November 08, 2012, 07:12:30 AM
So my interpretation is that no big corporations can start selling it/distributing it in those states because the federal government will still come in and shut it down? But also, you can smoke anywhere and no federal official is going to care?

What federal official A would you run into or B would give a crap about somebody toking
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Post by: Stevesie60 on November 08, 2012, 10:18:25 AM
So my interpretation is that no big corporations can start selling it/distributing it in those states because the federal government will still come in and shut it down? But also, you can smoke anywhere and no federal official is going to care?

What federal official A would you run into or B would give a crap about somebody toking

That's what I figured, just confirming.
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Post by: michigancat on November 08, 2012, 10:23:36 AM
I know this isn't the case, but if the weed is grown, sold, and consumed in the one state, I don't think the fed should be able to have any say what so ever.  Now, if CO was growing and found to be shipping to KS, then by all means, the fed should be allowed to do something for now.

Stupid govt.

My mom says that when she was growing up in Colorado, her family from Kansas would bring back a trunk full of Coors every time they visited. And now it will now happen with pot.
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Post by: 8manpick on November 08, 2012, 10:24:39 AM
I know this isn't the case, but if the weed is grown, sold, and consumed in the one state, I don't think the fed should be able to have any say what so ever.  Now, if CO was growing and found to be shipping to KS, then by all means, the fed should be allowed to do something for now.

Stupid govt.

My mom says that when she was growing up in Colorado, her family from Kansas would bring back a trunk full of Coors every time they visited. And now it will now happen with pot.
Both illegal
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 08, 2012, 10:25:25 AM
I know this isn't the case, but if the weed is grown, sold, and consumed in the one state, I don't think the fed should be able to have any say what so ever.  Now, if CO was growing and found to be shipping to KS, then by all means, the fed should be allowed to do something for now.

Stupid govt.

My mom says that when she was growing up in Colorado, her family from Kansas would bring back a trunk full of Coors every time they visited. And now it will now happen with pot.

LOL at smuggling Coors across state lines.
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Post by: michigancat on November 08, 2012, 10:25:36 AM
I know this isn't the case, but if the weed is grown, sold, and consumed in the one state, I don't think the fed should be able to have any say what so ever.  Now, if CO was growing and found to be shipping to KS, then by all means, the fed should be allowed to do something for now.

Stupid govt.

My mom says that when she was growing up in Colorado, her family from Kansas would bring back a trunk full of Coors every time they visited. And now it will now happen with pot.
Both illegal

Yeah
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 08, 2012, 10:27:43 AM
I know this isn't the case, but if the weed is grown, sold, and consumed in the one state, I don't think the fed should be able to have any say what so ever.  Now, if CO was growing and found to be shipping to KS, then by all means, the fed should be allowed to do something for now.

Stupid govt.

My mom says that when she was growing up in Colorado, her family from Kansas would bring back a trunk full of Coors every time they visited. And now it will now happen with pot.

Did your mom go by Bandit or Snowman?
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Post by: michigancat on November 08, 2012, 11:13:14 AM
I know this isn't the case, but if the weed is grown, sold, and consumed in the one state, I don't think the fed should be able to have any say what so ever.  Now, if CO was growing and found to be shipping to KS, then by all means, the fed should be allowed to do something for now.

Stupid govt.

My mom says that when she was growing up in Colorado, her family from Kansas would bring back a trunk full of Coors every time they visited. And now it will now happen with pot.

Did your mom go by Bandit or Snowman?

it was her uncle doing the transporting
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Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
So my interpretation is that no big corporations can start selling it/distributing it in those states because the federal government will still come in and shut it down? But also, you can smoke anywhere and no federal official is going to care?

What federal official A would you run into or B would give a crap about somebody toking

That's what I figured, just confirming.
You might be surprised how many federal agents are lurking in Colorado.  My brother-in-law works for the Colorado State Police in a joint effort with the FBI to enforce immigration laws.  They are all over Denver area busting illegal aliens.  I could easily see them retooling to enforce federal drug law.
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Post by: theKSU on November 08, 2012, 01:05:54 PM
The Governor will clarify with Holder what it means to implement this law by January 5th. At least we know local cops won't be arresting you for possession or smoking. It's always possible that the Feds could crack down on sellers. Also the amendment could have violated TABOR, so they may not even be able to tax it. But the people who supported the passage don't really give a crap about the taxation.

I would expect crackdowns in western Kansas on anyone possessing out there. It didn't used to be a big deal to toke up on a drive across 70, but they will be looking for it now.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 08, 2012, 01:15:11 PM
Does this law make it legal for Colorado farmers to grow marijuana as a cash crop? I don't understand how a law like this could be passed with the intent of collecting a tax on sales unless they plan on allowing stores to sell it. Who are the stores going to purchase it from, though?
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Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
Does this law make it legal for Colorado farmers to grow marijuana as a cash crop? I don't understand how a law like this could be passed with the intent of collecting a tax on sales unless they plan on allowing stores to sell it. Who are the stores going to purchase it from, though?
WARM UP THE TRACTORS.
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 08, 2012, 09:24:31 PM
Does this law make it legal for Colorado farmers to grow marijuana as a cash crop? I don't understand how a law like this could be passed with the intent of collecting a tax on sales unless they plan on allowing stores to sell it. Who are the stores going to purchase it from, though?

doing no research on it at all, i thought i heard on tv it was just for possession up to an ounce.  basically "decriminalized".  could be totally wrong though.
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Post by: Stevesie60 on November 08, 2012, 09:26:30 PM
Does this law make it legal for Colorado farmers to grow marijuana as a cash crop? I don't understand how a law like this could be passed with the intent of collecting a tax on sales unless they plan on allowing stores to sell it. Who are the stores going to purchase it from, though?

doing no research on it at all, i thought i heard on tv it was just for possession up to an ounce.  basically "decriminalized".  could be totally wrong though.

It is just an ounce, yes. And it's similar to open container, you can't go around smoking in the streets or anything.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 08, 2012, 09:28:26 PM
Does this law make it legal for Colorado farmers to grow marijuana as a cash crop? I don't understand how a law like this could be passed with the intent of collecting a tax on sales unless they plan on allowing stores to sell it. Who are the stores going to purchase it from, though?

doing no research on it at all, i thought i heard on tv it was just for possession up to an ounce.  basically "decriminalized".  could be totally wrong though.

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Colorado's Amendment 64 will allow adults over 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana, though using the drug publicly would be banned. The amendment would allow people to grow up to six marijuana plants in a private, secure area.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 09, 2012, 12:38:55 AM
They are leaving a ton of cash on the table by not taxing legal production and distribution, though I suppose it would be pretty difficult to get around federal law there.
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Post by: SuperG on November 09, 2012, 01:45:57 AM
Please merge with John Denver Song thread.

No way federal agents get involved in this p.... If it does happen it will be extremely rare. Weren't they already told by the justice dept. to make it their lowest priority like four years ago?
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Post by: michigancat on November 09, 2012, 03:02:39 AM
Please merge with John Denver Song thread.

No way federal agents get involved in this p.... If it does happen it will be extremely rare. Weren't they already told by the justice dept. to make it their lowest priority like four years ago?

Like someone mentioned, the feds cracked down pretty hard on medical dispensaries in California this year. Not sure why Colorado wouldn't have similar problems.
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Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 10, 2012, 11:48:02 AM
blazin :lynchmob:
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2012, 12:29:17 PM
Please merge with John Denver Song thread.

No way federal agents get involved in this p.... If it does happen it will be extremely rare. Weren't they already told by the justice dept. to make it their lowest priority like four years ago?

Like someone mentioned, the feds cracked down pretty hard on medical dispensaries in California this year. Not sure why Colorado wouldn't have similar problems.

The main lobby guy from Colorado was on bill maher last night and said the feds leave colorado alone for the most part because they are more self regulated than california.