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Title: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: colsanders718 on November 02, 2012, 12:41:06 PM
Aight, so I haven't heard much on the subject and didn't see a thread for it. I Just read that Snyder came out and said that he wants Sean to replace him  (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/29/3891243/big-12-report-like-cowboys-last.html) ... I know we've all gotten butt hurt and said Snyder would do this and it would suck but I never really thought it would come to fruition. Do any of you expert insidery types have any comments on this?
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Post by: Winters on November 02, 2012, 12:41:53 PM
lukesanders718
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Post by: 8manpick on November 02, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
coLukeders718
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Post by: p1k3 on November 02, 2012, 12:42:14 PM
thanks ColLukers718
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 02, 2012, 12:42:24 PM
Aight, so I haven't heard much on the subject and didn't see a thread for it.

I bet there's a thread about it somewhere. 
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Post by: EMAWesome on November 02, 2012, 12:42:33 PM
 :bwpopcorn: :popcorn:
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Post by: p1k3 on November 02, 2012, 12:42:37 PM
coLukeders718

 :shakesfist:
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Post by: Super PurpleCat on November 02, 2012, 12:45:07 PM
Wait, Bill's back?   :horrorsurprise:
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Post by: kim carnes on November 02, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
I will support the crap out of Sean if we go undefeated this year.  Maybe lightning can strike twice.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: colsanders718 on November 02, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
yea yea yea I know I luked it whatever. I just really don't want this to happen and figured through some artistic word play someone here in the wide world of goEMAW would ease my concerns. I mean crap cant we just buy Petrino some hookers and blow and let him ride in Harley day as part of a counseling program or something.. anything but sean snyder
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: ELL3 on November 02, 2012, 12:48:24 PM
Relax anti Sean fans, no way way it is happening. Currie is not leaving, thus the next coach will be a non EMAW guy, prediction is Bill retires and we hire Dooley (fired at Tennessee) or someone like Jerry Kill at Minnesota. Currie in no way will hire anyone with a tie to the current KSU program. Let's enjoy this season and begin to panic when Bill retires as a winner
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Post by: chum1 on November 02, 2012, 12:50:31 PM
Yeah, even though this sort of father/son thing is nothing more than a shameless money grab (of state funds), I'm all for giving Sean a shot to see if he can keep things going.  Nick Saban ain't gonna be walking through that door.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: colsanders718 on November 02, 2012, 12:51:22 PM
ok nerves calmed a bit.  :barf:
Relax anti Sean fans, no way way it is happening. Currie is not leaving, thus the next coach will be a non EMAW guy, prediction is Bill retires and we hire Dooley (fired at Tennessee) or someone like Jerry Kill at Minnesota. Currie in no way will hire anyone with a tie to the current KSU program. Let's enjoy this season and begin to panic when Bill retires as a winner
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Post by: EMAWesome on November 02, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
Relax anti Sean fans, no way way it is happening. Currie is not leaving, thus the next coach will be a non EMAW guy, prediction is Bill retires and we hire Dooley (fired at Tennessee) or someone like Jerry Kill at Minnesota. Currie in no way will hire anyone with a tie to the current KSU program. Let's enjoy this season and begin to panic when Bill retires as a winner

When we win the MNC this year, I bet it happens, and I'd actually be OK with it...that is the ONLY scenario in which I'd be OK with it.

Well, I guess I'd be OK with it if it happens after our 2nd MNC next year, but you get the point
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
Jerry Kill at Minnesota.

oh jesus eff not this crap again  :flush:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 12:56:26 PM
Relax anti Sean fans, no way way it is happening. Currie is not leaving, thus the next coach will be a non EMAW guy, prediction is Bill retires and we hire Dooley (fired at Tennessee) or someone like Jerry Kill at Minnesota. Currie in no way will hire anyone with a tie to the current KSU program. Let's enjoy this season and begin to panic when Bill retires as a winner

I would rather just hire Sean than go get Kill or Dooley.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: ELL3 on November 02, 2012, 12:56:35 PM
I see it as a choice between Sean or letting Currie hire "his guy"
Would prefer a Snyder puppet to a Currie puppet
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Post by: The1BigWillie on November 02, 2012, 12:58:55 PM
I say we just have a super nuclear Pak out in front of Curries office. Get all Pak'd up and storm the motherfucking office and demand he hire Dana.... Or at least send a strongly worded email.
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Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
I say we just have a super nuclear Pak out in front of Curries office. Get all Pak'd up and storm the motherfucking office and demand he hire Dana.... Or at least send a strongly worded email.

second. also Sean can stay on as associate HC or whatever if he wants.
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Post by: michigancat on November 02, 2012, 01:00:52 PM
There is little evidence that Dana would be a better head coach than Sean.
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Post by: The1BigWillie on November 02, 2012, 01:02:34 PM
There is little evidence that Dana would be a better head coach than Sean.

There is little evidence that Dana would be a worse head coach than Sean.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Domino on November 02, 2012, 01:03:12 PM
Why not Sean? If Bill takes this team to NCG, why not hire the guy he's been holding the hand of to take over for the past few years?
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Post by: MadCat on November 02, 2012, 01:04:35 PM
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Post by: michigancat on November 02, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
There is little evidence that Dana would be a better head coach than Sean.

There is little evidence that Dana would be a worse head coach than Sean.

Other than that one time where Dana got fired for losing as a head coach.
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Post by: UncleCharlie on November 02, 2012, 01:09:52 PM
Sean Sutton likes this idea.
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Post by: Panjandrum on November 02, 2012, 01:23:00 PM
I say we just have a super nuclear Pak out in front of Curries office. Get all Pak'd up and storm the motherfucking office and demand he hire Dana.... Or at least send a strongly worded email.

second. also Sean can stay on as associate HC or whatever if he wants.

I wonder if Bill ever comes around to the line of thinking that elevating his most "hire-able" assistant is the best chance of keeping the "family" in power at KSU.

I've also wondered if Mangino wandering around all of the time is part of a plan to bring him back as Co-OC/AHC (or something like that) to help prop up Sean.

I ask myself if I'd be okay with Sean if Dana and Mangino were both Co-OC's/AHC to help him out.  The truth is that I'd probably be able to stomach it.
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Post by: Mr Bread on November 02, 2012, 01:35:53 PM
Jerry Kill at Minnesota.

oh jesus eff not this crap again  :flush:

Make sure to always have your wallet handy SD for his seizures.  I think you're supposed to shove it in his mouth so he doesn't swallow his tongue or bite it off or something.   :bill: but with a wallet in his mouth and ugly. 
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: MadCat on November 02, 2012, 01:40:06 PM
Jerry Kill at Minnesota.

oh jesus eff not this crap again  :flush:

Make sure to always have your wallet handy SD for his seizures.  I think you're supposed to shove it in his mouth so he doesn't swallow his tongue or bite it off or something.   :bill: but with a wallet in his mouth and ugly.

I've heard that people can get their teeth stuck in the wallet if it's leather.  Save your wallet and let him bite off his tongue.  They can probably sew those things back on.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: ELL3 on November 02, 2012, 02:02:09 PM
Jerry Kill is a fuckin perfect Currie candidate
1. Obviously would take the job
2. Cartoonish
3. No ties to any EMAW
4. Comes from BCS conference
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2012, 02:04:01 PM
Jerry Kill is a fuckin perfect Currie candidate
1. Obviously would take the job
2. Cartoonish
3. No ties to any EMAW
4. Comes from BCS conference

1. Ugly
2. Could Die At Any Moment (may actually be dead right now)
3. Sucks
4. Only gets mentioned because he's from KS
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Skipper44 on November 02, 2012, 02:04:39 PM
I keep trying to convince myself Snyd's has like 6 or 7 more years in him and winning the NC will just allow him to further do things his way.  I mean, he has lived retirement and then actively pursued coming back. 

I want to rationalize his recent statements about stepping away as a scheme to get votes in the Coach's poll (ala Dr. Tom in '99) and the recruiting suicide statements as a test to make sure recruits come to KSU for the right reasons. 

Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: CNS on November 02, 2012, 02:08:57 PM
Mack Brown
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 02:09:53 PM
Mack Brown

I would take him in a heartbeat, but I bet Texas gives him a cushy administrative position, and at his age, he would be foolish to turn that down.
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Post by: Panjandrum on November 02, 2012, 02:12:29 PM
I keep trying to convince myself Snyd's has like 6 or 7 more years in him and winning the NC will just allow him to further do things his way.  I mean, he has lived retirement and then actively pursued coming back. 

I want to rationalize his recent statements about stepping away as a scheme to get votes in the Coach's poll (ala Dr. Tom in '99) and the recruiting suicide statements as a test to make sure recruits come to KSU for the right reasons.

I feel like he sticks around until he feels like Sean has a realistic shot at the job.  That could be after this year, or it could be five years from now.

I do think he stays as long as Tate is here, though.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 02:13:38 PM
Is Tate even still on the team?
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on November 02, 2012, 02:16:07 PM
I made out with Sean's daughter in their house one time   :gocho:
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 02, 2012, 02:17:16 PM
I made out with Sean's daughter in their house one time   :gocho:

#fanningbrag
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Post by: stunted on November 02, 2012, 02:18:46 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2012, 02:22:38 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."

yeah, he was probably a better fit as DOFO
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: CNS on November 02, 2012, 02:24:51 PM
Is Tate even still on the team?

No, but he is currently the redshirted assist DC


Bill feigned his injury to get him out of playing and into coaching in time for The Transition
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 02:25:11 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.
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Post by: jtksu on November 02, 2012, 02:25:59 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."

Kinda silly to ignore the success of the special teams when you're talking about the guy who coaches the special teams.
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Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2012, 02:26:40 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

good for him. nobody ever got to be a HC by being the best ST coach though. meanwhile, Dana Dimel is coaching the crap out of our offense to record setting numbers.
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Post by: CNS on November 02, 2012, 02:28:09 PM
Guys, if we were talking about hiring Special Teams coach for life, I would be all for Get Drunk In Front Of Currie's Office And Demand Sean Pak.  But that isn't what we are talking about.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 02:30:00 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

good for him. nobody ever got to be a HC by being the best ST coach though. meanwhile, Dana Dimel is coaching the crap out of our offense to record setting numbers.

Oh, I agree that he hasn't done anything to warrant being HC. I was mainly responding to the talking point about him "just being there" and maybe being better suited for DOFO. He's done a good job as ST coordinator and would be a great hire for that same position under the next head coach.
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Post by: MadCat on November 02, 2012, 02:57:45 PM
Litmus test: How many BCS teams would hire Sean as HC right now?
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Post by: TheHamburglar on November 02, 2012, 03:05:51 PM
Litmus test: How many BCS teams would hire Sean as HC right now?

BCS: 0
FBS: 0
FCS: 10-15 of the low end programs based solely off Bill calling and the local attention is would bring to their program
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Post by: TheHamburglar on November 02, 2012, 03:09:09 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

While the special teams have been solid for the most part, we've had our share of ST mistakes this season, including mental mistakes.

While the STs have improved, remember this is the same guy who couldn't get the right people on the field 3 separate times in a single game just 14 months ago.   
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Post by: Skipper44 on November 02, 2012, 03:09:40 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

good for him. nobody ever got to be a HC by being the best ST coach though. meanwhile, Dana Dimel is coaching the crap out of our offense to record setting numbers.
Um, actually that has happened before....

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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 03:10:50 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

While the special teams have been solid for the most part, we've had our share of ST mistakes this season, including mental mistakes.

Who hasn't?
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 02, 2012, 03:12:28 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."

I umpired several baseball games where he was the coach
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Post by: TheHamburglar on November 02, 2012, 03:14:11 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

While the special teams have been solid for the most part, we've had our share of ST mistakes this season, including mental mistakes.

Who hasn't?

You're right, everyone makes ST mistakes, including this team.  Truth is the ST coach now gets more love than he would if he had a different last name and didn't coach ST for a program that had a history of ST success for a couple decades prior to him becoming ST coach. 
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Post by: michigancat on November 02, 2012, 03:15:12 PM
Litmus test: How many BCS teams would hire Sean as HC right now?


This is a bad litmus test. How many BCS programs would have hired Frank Martin in 2007?
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: michigancat on November 02, 2012, 03:16:03 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

While the special teams have been solid for the most part, we've had our share of ST mistakes this season, including mental mistakes.

Who hasn't?

You're right, everyone makes ST mistakes, including this team.  Truth is the ST coach now gets more love than he would if he had a different last name and didn't coach ST for a program that had a history of ST success for a couple decades prior to him becoming ST coach. 

people loved the crap out of tibesar when he was ST coach.
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Post by: Skipper44 on November 02, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."

I umpired several baseball games where he was the coach
Was he outgoing or verbal at all?  When he talks, does it seem like he trying to be his dad?
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Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2012, 03:17:02 PM
Litmus test: How many BCS teams would hire Sean as HC right now?


This is a bad litmus test. How many BCS programs would have hired Frank Martin in 2007?

I think most would have if facing the same situation we were (GRCOAT v. No GRCOAT)
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: TheHamburglar on November 02, 2012, 03:18:47 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

While the special teams have been solid for the most part, we've had our share of ST mistakes this season, including mental mistakes.

Who hasn't?

You're right, everyone makes ST mistakes, including this team.  Truth is the ST coach now gets more love than he would if he had a different last name and didn't coach ST for a program that had a history of ST success for a couple decades prior to him becoming ST coach. 

people loved the crap out of tibesar when he was ST coach.

Since you opened the can of using a single piece of data for the success/non-success of a hire (Martin example), when tibesar got promoted he was rough ridin' terrible. 
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 03:19:11 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

While the special teams have been solid for the most part, we've had our share of ST mistakes this season, including mental mistakes.

Who hasn't?

You're right, everyone makes ST mistakes, including this team.  Truth is the ST coach now gets more love than he would if he had a different last name and didn't coach ST for a program that had a history of ST success for a couple decades prior to him becoming ST coach. 

people loved the crap out of tibesar when he was ST coach.

This is exactly what I was about to post.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 03:20:19 PM
I don't know what you would expect to see out of any special teams coach, though. For the most part, special teams have been very good, and Sean deserves credit for that. It's impossible to have a great team with a bad special teams unit.

While the special teams have been solid for the most part, we've had our share of ST mistakes this season, including mental mistakes.

Who hasn't?

You're right, everyone makes ST mistakes, including this team.  Truth is the ST coach now gets more love than he would if he had a different last name and didn't coach ST for a program that had a history of ST success for a couple decades prior to him becoming ST coach. 

people loved the crap out of tibesar when he was ST coach.

Since you opened the can of using a single piece of data for the success/non-success of a hire (Martin example), when tibesar got promoted he was rough ridin' terrible.

Yes. There are no sure things in coaching hires. Even Rich Rod failed horribly at Michigan. Nobody saw that coming.
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Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2012, 03:21:06 PM
Rich Rod needed more time at Michigan. Firing him was a super pud move. He will kick ass at Arizona imo.
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Post by: TheHamburglar on November 02, 2012, 03:22:00 PM
Edit: nevermind, somewhere in there I got michigancat and nutskicked's posts confused. 
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Shacks on November 02, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."

I umpired several baseball games where he was the coach
Was he outgoing or verbal at all?  When he talks, does it seem like he trying to be his dad?

More importantly, did he scheme the crap out of the other team?
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Skipper44 on November 02, 2012, 03:30:26 PM
Rich Rod needed more time at Michigan. Firing him was a super pud move. He will kick ass at Arizona imo.
I agree he will kick ass at U of A but it was never going to work with those stick up their ass Michigan Men in Ann Arbor.  The fit was just too awful and it was for the best for RR's career that he got fired as soon as he did.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2012, 03:33:59 PM
Rich Rod needed more time at Michigan. Firing him was a super pud move. He will kick ass at Arizona imo.
I agree he will kick ass at U of A but it was never going to work with those stick up their ass Michigan Men in Ann Arbor.  The fit was just too awful and it was for the best for RR's career that he got fired as soon as he did.

He was getting ready to kick ass. He had a (Soph?) QB that was custom made for his offense getting ready to run roughshod over the shitty Big 10. It's not his fault he had to flush the shitty garbage players out of the roster for a few years.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: michigancat on November 02, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Success as a coordinator or position coach does not seem to correlate to head coach success. They are completely different jobs. Dabo Swinney was never a coordinator and he's done a fine job at Clemson.

My argument is that hiring coaches is such a crapshoot that it's impossible to know how Sean would do (as a fan.) You could learn a lot through an interview process or seeing him work (which Currie would have the opportunity to do), but we really can't.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: jtksu on November 02, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
Success as a coordinator or position coach does not seem to correlate to head coach success. They are completely different jobs. Dabo Swinney was never a coordinator and he's done a fine job at Clemson.

My argument is that hiring coaches is such a crapshoot that it's impossible to know how Sean would do (as a fan.) You could learn a lot through an interview process or seeing him work (which Currie would have the opportunity to do), but we really can't.

Dabo was the Assistant HC/WR coach before get the HC job.  Prior to that he was a TE/WR coach and a GA before that.  His resume would appear to be fairly similar to Sean's.  (I wasn't aware of this before yoy mentioned it.) 
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2012, 03:58:05 PM
I just have a hard time believing that Sean would be able to go out and find quality assistants. He has absolutely no experience outside of Manhattan, KS. Sure, he could probably keep the current staff and maybe get Mangino, but that only works until somebody leaves. I don't think Sean has many connections.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: CNS on November 02, 2012, 04:01:56 PM
I just have a hard time believing that Sean would be able to go out and find quality assistants. He has absolutely no experience outside of Manhattan, KS. Sure, he could probably keep the current staff and maybe get Mangino, but that only works until somebody leaves. I don't think Sean has many connections.

The lack of experience isn't even the only major issues.  Type A personalities love to minimize someone for certain reasons and daddy getting you the job is the #1 reason.  Sean would be fighting a serious uphill battle on this part alone with potential coaches.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: jtksu on November 02, 2012, 04:09:59 PM
I just have a hard time believing that Sean would be able to go out and find quality assistants. He has absolutely no experience outside of Manhattan, KS. Sure, he could probably keep the current staff and maybe get Mangino, but that only works until somebody leaves. I don't think Sean has many connections.

Gonna assume he has many of the same connections Bill does.  Seems like he could keep most of the same guys around and be just fine?
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Ira Hayes on November 02, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
This issue was magnificently addressed a year and a half ago by _33.  May need to update Chris Cosh and Mike Leach. Charlie Dickey deserves an appearance. But otherwise nothing has changed.

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Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: wetwillie on November 02, 2012, 06:09:24 PM
My morbid curiosity actually wants to see what Sean could do.   Bill would be consulting in vanier until he died anyway.   
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: MadCat on November 02, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
My morbid curiosity actually wants to see what Sean could do.   Bill would be consulting in vanier until he died anyway.
Only after Bill wins MNC.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: j-von on November 02, 2012, 08:31:59 PM
My morbid curiosity actually wants to see what Sean could do.   Bill would be consulting in vanier until he died anyway.

This is where I'm at unless there's a really good hire somewhere else.  When Bill came back I was excited, but only because I really wanted to see if he could do it again more than actually thinking he would.  Feel the same way about Sean.  This also proves I'd be a horrible AD.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 02, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."

I umpired several baseball games where he was the coach
Was he outgoing or verbal at all?  When he talks, does it seem like he trying to be his dad?

Very much so.  In fact I recall him yelling a lot, to the point of it having a negative effect on the team.  No, he did not try and sound like his dad. 


More importantly, did he scheme the crap out of the other team?

No.  His team was ok for a team of 12 year olds.  Won some lost some.  He did in fact, wait for me and another umpire in the parking lot to confront us after a game, because we didn't throw a kid on the other team out who let go of his bat and it hit Sean's catcher.  My experience is that he is an insecure jerk. 
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Super PurpleCat on November 02, 2012, 09:08:39 PM
Well there you have it.  Big XII refs would bury him.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Ira Hayes on November 02, 2012, 09:08:57 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."

I umpired several baseball games where he was the coach
Was he outgoing or verbal at all?  When he talks, does it seem like he trying to be his dad?

Very much so.  In fact I recall him yelling a lot, to the point of it having a negative effect on the team.  No, he did not try and sound like his dad. 


More importantly, did he scheme the crap out of the other team?

No.  His team was ok for a team of 12 year olds.  Won some lost some.  He did in fact, wait for me and another umpire in the parking lot to confront us after a game, because we didn't throw a kid on the other team out who let go of his bat and it hit Sean's catcher.  My experience is that he is an insecure jerk.

Sounds like LHC Bill Snyder with a streak of Mark Mangino's passion.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 02, 2012, 09:09:56 PM
Does anybody actually know anything about Sean and how he coaches?  Besides having an awesome special teams unit hes just kinda "there."

I umpired several baseball games where he was the coach
Was he outgoing or verbal at all?  When he talks, does it seem like he trying to be his dad?

Very much so.  In fact I recall him yelling a lot, to the point of it having a negative effect on the team.  No, he did not try and sound like his dad. 


More importantly, did he scheme the crap out of the other team?

No.  His team was ok for a team of 12 year olds.  Won some lost some.  He did in fact, wait for me and another umpire in the parking lot to confront us after a game, because we didn't throw a kid on the other team out who let go of his bat and it hit Sean's catcher.  My experience is that he is an insecure jerk.

Sounds like LHC Bill Snyder with a streak of Mark Mangino's passion.  Can't wait.

more insecure
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Shacks on November 02, 2012, 09:15:00 PM

More importantly, did he scheme the crap out of the other team?

No.  His team was ok for a team of 12 year olds.  Won some lost some.  He did in fact, wait for me and another umpire in the parking lot to confront us after a game, because we didn't throw a kid on the other team out who let go of his bat and it hit Sean's catcher.  My experience is that he is an insecure jerk.

I'm an umpire too and I've had a few coaches confront me in parking lots after the game, that's pathetic and I lose all respect for coaches who do that.  It's a bitch move.  I don't care if coaches want to PI me and dispute a call during the game, but waiting until I'm about to leave and the game has been over for awhile is when you decide to argue?  GTFOOMF :jerk:
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Katpappy on November 02, 2012, 09:36:01 PM
Success as a coordinator or position coach does not seem to correlate to head coach success. They are completely different jobs. Dabo Swinney was never a coordinator and he's done a fine job at Clemson.

My argument is that hiring coaches is such a crapshoot that it's impossible to know how Sean would do (as a fan.) You could learn a lot through an interview process or seeing him work (which Currie would have the opportunity to do), but we really can't.
No denied, he was Clemson's OC before getting the HC job.  By the way, Vic K. was the DC with Dabo.  Left Clemson to coach for us, due to butthurt of Dabo getting "his" job.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: jtksu on November 03, 2012, 12:24:22 PM
Success as a coordinator or position coach does not seem to correlate to head coach success. They are completely different jobs. Dabo Swinney was never a coordinator and he's done a fine job at Clemson.

My argument is that hiring coaches is such a crapshoot that it's impossible to know how Sean would do (as a fan.) You could learn a lot through an interview process or seeing him work (which Currie would have the opportunity to do), but we really can't.
No denied, he was Clemson's OC before getting the HC job.  By the way, Vic K. was the DC with Dabo.  Left Clemson to coach for us, due to butthurt of Dabo getting "his" job.

No, your denial has been denied.  Rob Spence was the OC at Clemson from 05-08.  Dabo, as previously mentioned, was the Assistant HC/WR coach when he was promoted to interim HC.
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: Trim on November 19, 2012, 08:30:07 PM
Jerry Kill is a fuckin perfect Currie candidate
1. Obviously would take the job
2. Cartoonish
3. No ties to any EMAW
4. Comes from BCS conference

1. Ugly
2. Could Die At Any Moment (may actually be dead right now)
3. Sucks
4. Only gets mentioned because he's from KS

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8652653/minnesota-jerry-kill-denies-abuse-aj-barker-quit-due-unhappiness-discipline
Title: Re: Sean rough ridin' Snyder... Really?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 19, 2012, 08:36:15 PM
Jerry Kill is a fuckin perfect Currie candidate
1. Obviously would take the job
2. Cartoonish
3. No ties to any EMAW
4. Comes from BCS conference

1. Ugly
2. Could Die At Any Moment (may actually be dead right now)
3. Sucks
4. Only gets mentioned because he's from KS

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8652653/minnesota-jerry-kill-denies-abuse-aj-barker-quit-due-unhappiness-discipline

 :sdeek: