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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Dr Rick Daris on October 25, 2012, 10:33:23 PM
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is anybody else kind of :ohno: about our run game and it's lack of production over the past two games? i kind of am.
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i think as long as we run for 3.33 yds every time we are good to go.
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We were going up against the two best run defenses in the country. ISU by far #1. I'm not worried.
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Without looking at stats, I don't remember us being unproductive running against WVU. Obviously, we put it in the air quite a bit, but I thought we ran it effectively too.
Long story short, I guess I'm not nervous. Tech has a good D but Im confident well scheme the crap out of them.
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I think we make a point of running it down their dumb throats. Not worried (but a little bit nervous)
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Hell no. Hubes is good and our O-line is tits. The teams we've played have stacked the box and brought up safeties all night and made Klein beat them. They're sending extra men and we're still gaining yards. Did you not read _Fan's Fanalysis? :shakesfist:
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our offense can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants
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Without looking at stats, I don't remember us being unproductive running against WVU. Obviously, we put it in the air quite a bit, but I thought we ran it effectively too.
Long story short, I guess I'm not nervous. Tech has a good D but Im confident well scheme the crap out of them.
3.4 yds per rush against isu and 3.74 against wvu. not great! :ohno:
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ISU and WVU focused on stopping the run. The only differences were Klein having a bad game/penalties/better secondary in the ISU game. As long as we don't play like crap and TTU doesn't load the box then the run game should be fine. However, I think we could pass the whole game and beat them.
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ISU and WVU focused on stopping the run. The only differences were Klein having a bad game/penalties/better secondary in the ISU game. As long as we don't play like crap and TTU doesn't load the box then the run game should be fine. However, I think we could pass the whole game and beat them.
averaged over 5 against OU though. idk you guys. i think our guys are getting tired or maybe we've been figured out. plus it's ttu so it's just going to be close. remember that ttu game where jb had to relieve bish and we just barely sneaked it out? :ohno:
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ISU and WVU focused on stopping the run. The only differences were Klein having a bad game/penalties/better secondary in the ISU game. As long as we don't play like crap and TTU doesn't load the box then the run game should be fine. However, I think we could pass the whole game and beat them.
averaged over 5 against OU though. idk you guys. i think our guys are getting tired or maybe we've been figured out. plus it's ttu so it's just going to be close. remember that game where jb had to relieve bish and we just barely sneaked it out? :ohno:
Ohio?
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It appear Charlie Weis's game plan of "tackle them" is finally getting around to our opponents. Worried about our offense getting stopped guys. :frown:
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not in the slightest, rick daris. if we don't get 5.0+ per attempt against tech, i'll be absolutely amazed.
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ISU and WVU focused on stopping the run. The only differences were Klein having a bad game/penalties/better secondary in the ISU game. As long as we don't play like crap and TTU doesn't load the box then the run game should be fine. However, I think we could pass the whole game and beat them.
averaged over 5 against OU though. idk you guys. i think our guys are getting tired or maybe we've been figured out. plus it's ttu so it's just going to be close. remember that ttu game where jb had to relieve bish and we just barely sneaked it out? :ohno:
AS WVU we have never ran the ball all that effectively against a 3-4.
AS of ISU they are pretty good, the wind allowed them to stack the box and we didn't totally ready to play as evidence of the 9 penalties mostly holds.
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not in the slightest, rick daris. if we don't get 5.0+ per attempt against tech, i'll be absolutely amazed.
tubberville is very good though sys and you know those western plains texas yahoos would love more than to come into mhk and sneak out with a "w".
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not in the slightest, rick daris. if we don't get 5.0+ per attempt against tech, i'll be absolutely amazed.
tubberville is very good though sys and you know those western plains texas yahoos would love more than to come into mhk and sneak out with a "w".
With sys on this one, Ran for 4.1 against them last year on the road and are run game is vastly improved.
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So is the increase in carries for Pease over the last couple of game indicative of Angelo and his progress or that Hubert is nicked up? Both? Neither? :confused:
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not in the slightest, rick daris. if we don't get 5.0+ per attempt against tech, i'll be absolutely amazed.
tubberville is very good though sys and you know those western plains texas yahoos would love more than to come into mhk and sneak out with a "w".
With sys on this one, Ran for 4.1 against them last year on the road and are run game is vastly improved.
And Tech's defense hasn't?
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I am under the impression that the staff likes Pease more than Hubert in the passing game. He better out of the back field catching the ball and is better or on the same level for picking up the blitz. That is why he played more against WVU.
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not in the slightest, rick daris. if we don't get 5.0+ per attempt against tech, i'll be absolutely amazed.
tubberville is very good though sys and you know those western plains texas yahoos would love more than to come into mhk and sneak out with a "w".
With sys on this one, Ran for 4.1 against them last year on the road and are run game is vastly improved.
And Tech's defense hasn't?
Believe most of Techs improvement defensively have to deal with defending the pass.
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tubberville is very good though sys and you know those western plains texas yahoos would love more than to come into mhk and sneak out with a "w".
lots of yahoos from all over want to do that, rick daris. there's a big difference between what they want to do and what they can do. old tuberville is going to find that out real quick.
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And Tech's defense hasn't?
not really, no. tech's defensive reputation is built entirely on humiliating wvu. they haven't done a single other thing that anyone gives a crap about.
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Without looking at stats, I don't remember us being unproductive running against WVU. Obviously, we put it in the air quite a bit, but I thought we ran it effectively too.
Long story short, I guess I'm not nervous. Tech has a good D but Im confident well scheme the crap out of them.
3.4 yds per rush against isu and 3.74 against wvu. not great! :ohno:
there bringing out the chains folks..oh looks like the wildcats got it by the nose of the football. yep 3.4 yds and a cloud of dust for these wildcats.
good for another wildcat first down!
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i will bet more farms than i even own that TTU can't score more than 24 on us. and i bet those same farms they cant hold us under 35.
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Tech has given up almost 900 yards per game the last two games and over 300 yards rushing including 183 against TCU and our rushing game is better than the frogs.
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Our offense is fine in this game. D is what I'm most worried about :ohno:
If our secondary plays as smart as they did in the last game, we should be fine, but Tech is tricky. I don't like Tech. I don't like us playing them. I don't like them even existing.
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I don't like Tech. I don't like us playing them. I don't like them even existing.
well, sure. but that doesn't mean they have a chance in hell of beating us.
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we'll average about 4.7, imo.
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Texas State avereaged 4.4 per carry on them. I hadn't even taken a look at TTech's schedule until this morning. Umm... not exactly knocking off the 85 Bears. :thumbs: :billdance:
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are you listening to stan on 810 now though? they have fast guys that are going to fly to the ball and try to get negative plays. this is not what we want!
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Will they "stack the box" against us? I think they will.
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Will they "stack the box" against us? I think they will.
I hope they do.
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Really only ISU defended us well. The 15 yards per attempt WVU gave up negates the success they had against the run. I don't see us having the negative plays/penalties against Tech that we had in Ames.
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Really only ISU defended us well. The 15 yards per attempt WVU gave up negates the success they had against the run. I don't see us having the negative plays/penalties against Tech that we had in Ames.
:driving:
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We should run a reverse.
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i think as long as we run for 3.33 yds every time we are good to go.
mathematically, yes. :lick:
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are you listening to stan on 810 now though? they have fast guys that are going to fly to the ball and try to get negative plays. this is not what we want!
that's what wvu did
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are you listening to stan on 810 now though? they have fast guys that are going to fly to the ball and try to get negative plays. this is not what we want!
that's what wvu did
We are like the best in the nation at not having negative plays
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are you listening to stan on 810 now though? they have fast guys that are going to fly to the ball and try to get negative plays. this is not what we want!
that's what wvu did
wvu is v soft and poorly coached on defense. ttu is neither.
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Wait. Last year I was lmaoing at tuberville. Is he actually good? HFIQ only.
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We’re going to have to throw the ball to win. We can’t use the ISU blueprint to win (I think we stuck with the run a bit more than maybe we should have and could have gotten more out of the pass but remained conservative). We had like 94yds at halftime vs. Tech last year and IIRC in the 2nd half, we came out throwing. Tech is going to run blitz (and blitz in general) more than we’ve seen thus far. I hope that maybe it will provide CK some lanes to scramble in and hurt them. I don’t anticipate our run game to avg more than 3.7 ypc.
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Daris, I'm terrified.
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are you listening to stan on 810 now though? they have fast guys that are going to fly to the ball and try to get negative plays. this is not what we want!
that's what wvu did
We are like the best in the nation at not having negative plays
Yes (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2012/10/23/3543066/spike-factor-week-8)
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is anybody else kind of :ohno: about our run game and it's lack of production over the past two games? i kind of am.
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We’re going to have to throw the ball to win. We can’t use the ISU blueprint to win (I think we stuck with the run a bit more than maybe we should have and could have gotten more out of the pass but remained conservative). We had like 94yds at halftime vs. Tech last year and IIRC in the 2nd half, we came out throwing. Tech is going to run blitz (and blitz in general) more than we’ve seen thus far. I hope that maybe it will provide CK some lanes to scramble in and hurt them. I don’t anticipate our run game to avg more than 3.7 ypc.
I agree we'll have to throw to win, but I bet we ave. more than 4.0 ypc. We'll get some things in the running game this week.
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Guys I think that we should balance passing and running a bit just to keep them honest.
:D
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The key to this game is going to be scoring points. If we can outscore TT, we have a good chance of winning.
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You know what I say to Texas Tech's D-fence? "LOL, ROFL, LMAO, YOU CAN'T STOP US BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY GREAT, ACTUALLY WE ARE THE BEST, SO WE ARE GOING TO SCORE ALL OVER YOU"
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is anybody else kind of :ohno: about our run game and it's lack of production over the past two games? i kind of am.
used passing between the 20's...then ran it on WVU and ISU inside the 10 yard line AT WILL....and Iowa State's run D in Ames is way better than Tech's run D outside of the Buddy Holly birthplace.
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Will they "stack the box" against us? I think they will.
Play fake the hell out of them.
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I'm hoping they pull out "the play" again.
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Can we get some carries for Braden Wilson?
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.OK - I could barely keep a straight face when I typed this.
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We’re going to have to throw the ball to win. We can’t use the ISU blueprint to win (I think we stuck with the run a bit more than maybe we should have and could have gotten more out of the pass but remained conservative). We had like 94yds at halftime vs. Tech last year and IIRC in the 2nd half, we came out throwing. Tech is going to run blitz (and blitz in general) more than we’ve seen thus far. I hope that maybe it will provide CK some lanes to scramble in and hurt them. I don’t anticipate our run game to avg more than 3.7 ypc.
Didn't we have a KO return for a TD and a Pick 6 in the first half of that game? I would assume that skews our total first half yardage a tad. I am nervous about Tech, and now coming to the realization that I should be really nervous for TCU as well.