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Title: Coal Rush
Post by: catzacker on October 15, 2012, 09:00:46 AM
WVU's rush defense is ranked #43 nationally, giving up 3.26ypc, ISU's rush defense is ranked #36, giving up 3.36. We ran for 3.4ypc against ISU.  Worries? Thoughts?
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: steve dave on October 15, 2012, 09:02:02 AM
WVU's rush defense is ranked #43 nationally, giving up 3.26ypc, ISU's rush defense is ranked #36, giving up 3.36. We ran for 3.4ypc against ISU.  Worries? Thoughts?

see the post by MIR

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=23156.msg630084#msg630084

where he broke down the rushing offenses they've faced. I'm worried about a lot of things in this game but our running the ball on them isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: scottwildcat on October 15, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
WVU's rush defense is ranked #43 nationally, giving up 3.26ypc, ISU's rush defense is ranked #36, giving up 3.36. We ran for 3.4ypc against ISU.  Worries? Thoughts?

see the post by MIR (I think) where he broke down the rushing offenses they've faced. I'm worried about a lot of things in this game but our running the ball on them isn't one of them.

BOOM ROASTED IN THE FACE
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: Bookcat on October 15, 2012, 09:07:33 AM
is Bailey out or no?
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: Shacks on October 15, 2012, 09:08:39 AM
I got 99 problems but a rush ain't one, if you're having ground problems I feel bad for you puds
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 15, 2012, 09:14:19 AM
If ISU's rush defense is better than WVU's, I'm not worried.  We rushed for nearly 200 yards and held the ball for 41 minutes.  If we're in the same ballpark against WVU, we've got a great shot to win. 
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: steve dave on October 15, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
is Bailey out or no?

haven't heard anything official but ankle injuries are usually pretty quick to come back from
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2012, 09:21:24 AM
is Bailey out or no?

haven't heard anything official but ankle injuries are usually pretty quick to come back from

Yeah, I'm sure he will play. Hopefully he's not 100% and his timing is off after sitting out of practice for most of the week.
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: Kat Kid on October 15, 2012, 09:24:41 AM
I got 99 problems but a rush ain't one, if you're having ground problems I feel bad for you puds

nice.
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: steve dave on October 15, 2012, 09:30:20 AM
I got 99 problems but a rush ain't one, if you're having ground problems I feel bad for you puds

nice.

yes, that was well done
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: catzacker on October 15, 2012, 09:33:17 AM
maybe someone could look up the rush rankings for ISU's opponents?
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: steve dave on October 15, 2012, 09:35:47 AM
Another thing that pads WVU's rush D numbers is the fact that every team they've faced has thrown for roughly 500 yards on them.  They are 117th in yards per game and 122nd in passing D.
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: ChiComCat on October 15, 2012, 09:44:52 AM
Another thing that pads WVU's rush D numbers is the fact that every team they've faced has thrown for roughly 500 yards on them.  They are 117th in yards per game and 122nd in passing D.

This is kind of my take.  Who is running on them?  My guess: teams that have 3rd and 3 or less.  And those teams are picking it up.  Then right back to chucking it down the field on their terrible defense.

Why am I not worried about WV:  The D-Coord is clearly a dipshit.  Snyder will destroy-scheme that idiot.  A couple of stops and we're good. 
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: mocat on October 15, 2012, 09:46:33 AM
We should be more concerned with defending the pass, something TTU is much much better than us at doing. (4.82 ypa vs 6.56 ypa)
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: AbeFroman on October 15, 2012, 09:51:30 AM
Geno is about to throw his first pick(s) of the year, much like RG3 last year.
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2012, 09:52:55 AM
We should be more concerned with defending the pass, something TTU is much much better than us at doing. (4.82 ypa vs 6.56 ypa)

WVU will move the ball, but as long as we stop the big play, they are going to have trouble scoring if they cannot run. They don't kick field goals and punt if they are even near midfield, so this thing could get out of hand early if we catch a few breaks.
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: slobber on October 15, 2012, 10:28:43 AM
Another thing that pads WVU's rush D numbers is the fact that every team they've faced has thrown for roughly 500 yards on them.  They are 117th in yards per game and 122nd in passing D.
Further to this, I believe that the number of sacks by the WVU defense is higher than normal with the number of passes their opponents attempt. WVU has 90+ sack yards. Doesn't that count against yards per carry?
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: Shacks on October 15, 2012, 10:29:51 AM
Another thing that pads WVU's rush D numbers is the fact that every team they've faced has thrown for roughly 500 yards on them.  They are 117th in yards per game and 122nd in passing D.
Further to this, I believe that the number of sacks by the WVU defense is higher than normal with the number of passes their opponents attempt. WVU has 90+ sack yards. Doesn't that count against yards per carry?

Yes.  In college, sacks are recorded as negative rushing yards.  In the NFL, sacks are negative passing yards.
Title: Re: Coal Rush
Post by: slobber on October 15, 2012, 10:32:46 AM
Another thing that pads WVU's rush D numbers is the fact that every team they've faced has thrown for roughly 500 yards on them.  They are 117th in yards per game and 122nd in passing D.
Further to this, I believe that the number of sacks by the WVU defense is higher than normal with the number of passes their opponents attempt. WVU has 90+ sack yards. Doesn't that count against yards per carry?


Yes.  In college, sacks are recorded as negative rushing yards.  In the NFL, sacks are negative passing yards.
So, if teams weren't passing so damn often against WVU, they'd be running more and increasing the YPC. For what it's worth, in spite of how much teams pass against them, WVU is only averaging 2.5 sacks/game. (KSU is averaging 2.33/game)