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Preseason All-Big 12 1st teamer (http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205697199&DB_OEM_ID=10410)
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JO got rough ridin' job'd with no HM :dubious:
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also, the Big12 is going to be relatively garbage this year isn't it
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JO got rough ridin' job'd with no HM :dubious:
Will be motivation to DOJW (JW=Bitch=Jeff Withey)
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Grats Gruds, you've earned it.
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also, the Big12 is going to be relatively garbage this year isn't it
That was kinda my initial thought after looking at that list too. Nash and Kabongo have plenty of talent but putting them on the 1st team is more projection than production at this point.
Plus, I do believe Rodriguez is right there with Kabongo. Right there.
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So the POY is not a unanimous first-teamer? :dubious:
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i hope he grows his hair back out
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Pretty sure we should get top 3 in the conference this year.
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i hope he grows his hair back out
This looks pretty good.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-baskbl%2Fauto_headshot%2F8019332.jpeg&hash=ef1f804104943a3e5c649df42115573a62df94e0)
Maybe a little longer.
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http://instagram.com/p/QSlOAwm3rm/
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http://instagram.com/p/QSlOAwm3rm/
that is fantastic
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http://instagram.com/p/QSlOAwm3rm/
that is fantastic
i will say his footwear choice is lacking
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INK! :bball:
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JO's snub is quite ridiculous.
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also, the Big12 is going to be relatively garbage this year isn't it
Yep. With basically an entire team returning, a weak(er) Big 12, and coach who actually coaches fundamentals, I can’t imagine how this season won’t end in a Big 12 Championship for the Kansas State University Wildcats.
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http://instagram.com/p/QSlOAwm3rm/
that is fantastic
BOING!!!
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also, the Big12 is going to be relatively garbage this year isn't it
Yep. With basically an entire team returning, a weak(er) Big 12, a brand new basketball practice palace,and coach who actually coaches fundamentals, I can’t imagine how this season won’t end in a Big 12 Championship for the Kansas State University Wildcats.
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POY: Pierre Jackson :lol:
1st: Le'Bryan Nash :lol:
1st: Myck Kabongo :lol:
HM: Isaiah Austin :lol:
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OMG Grudes with longer hair and new tats is the hottest thing I've seen wear a K-State uniform since Angel but I'm going to have to disqualify that because then it doesn't seem like it's as big of deal but I promise it's a really big deal and he looks ssssooooo HOT!
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I dont know if I'll ever get over Marcus Smart. :cry:
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/storylist/20512719/2/2012-13-college-basketball-previews/cbssportscoms-top-100-players
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/storylist/20512719/2/2012-13-college-basketball-previews/cbssportscoms-top-100-players
SLAP IN THE FACE
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JO is mia from every preseason list... that will change... 15 points 8 rebounds and 4.5 Blocks per game will do that. :dance:
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JO is mia from every preseason list... that will change... 15 points 8 rebounds and 4.5 Blocks per game will do that. :dance:
Aim high MN.
I think 10 pts, 7 boards(7.5 or more :crossfingers:), and 3 blocks per game might be about where he winds up.
I've just never seen enough of a low post game out of him to lead me to believe he's going to be a "go to guy" offensively, meaning averaging well into double digits. But keep knocking down that 15 fter and cleaning up garbage around the rim(with authority!) and I think about 10 PPG might be about right.
Regarding his shotblocking, I know he averaged about 4 per game over about the last 10 games last year, which was elite, but it's tough to do that over the course of a 35 game season.
His lack of any real hype on any of these preseason lists is a bit confounding. Even if he's not averaging 4-5 blocks per game, he's still a big-time defensive presence who alters a ton of shots around the rim. I really don't think other bigs like Alex Oriakhi(ranked 94th on the list above) or Josh Smith(around 90th) will overall be more effective than JO. Hope JO can prove all the "experts" wrong.
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We're not gonna be relevant this year? :cry:
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We're not gonna be relevant this year? :cry:
Pro tip: Don't believe everything you read.
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JO is mia from every preseason list... that will change... 15 points 8 rebounds and 4.5 Blocks per game will do that. :dance:
Aim high MN.
I think 10 pts, 7 boards(7.5 or more :crossfingers:), and 3 blocks per game might be about where he winds up.
I've just never seen enough of a low post game out of him to lead me to believe he's going to be a "go to guy" offensively, meaning averaging well into double digits. But keep knocking down that 15 fter and cleaning up garbage around the rim(with authority!) and I think about 10 PPG might be about right.
Regarding his shotblocking, I know he averaged about 4 per game over about the last 10 games last year, which was elite, but it's tough to do that over the course of a 35 game season.
His lack of any real hype on any of these preseason lists is a bit confounding. Even if he's not averaging 4-5 blocks per game, he's still a big-time defensive presence who alters a ton of shots around the rim. I really don't think other bigs like Alex Oriakhi(ranked 94th on the list above) or Josh Smith(around 90th) will overall be more effective than JO. Hope JO can prove all the "experts" wrong.
don't forget about a couple 3's oscar will be working in this year. :D
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We're not gonna be relevant this year? :cry:
Pro tip: Don't believe everything you read.
Hell, now I don't know if I can believe this or not.
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JO is mia from every preseason list... that will change... 15 points 8 rebounds and 4.5 Blocks per game will do that. :dance:
Aim high MN.
I think 10 pts, 7 boards(7.5 or more :crossfingers:), and 3 blocks per game might be about where he winds up.
I've just never seen enough of a low post game out of him to lead me to believe he's going to be a "go to guy" offensively, meaning averaging well into double digits. But keep knocking down that 15 fter and cleaning up garbage around the rim(with authority!) and I think about 10 PPG might be about right.
Regarding his shotblocking, I know he averaged about 4 per game over about the last 10 games last year, which was elite, but it's tough to do that over the course of a 35 game season.
His lack of any real hype on any of these preseason lists is a bit confounding. Even if he's not averaging 4-5 blocks per game, he's still a big-time defensive presence who alters a ton of shots around the rim. I really don't think other bigs like Alex Oriakhi(ranked 94th on the list above) or Josh Smith(around 90th) will overall be more effective than JO. Hope JO can prove all the "experts" wrong.
don't forget about a couple 3's oscar will be working in this year. :D
It'll be a disappointment if he's shooting more than 0.5 per game.
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We're not gonna be relevant this year? :cry:
Pro tip: Don't believe everything you read.
Hell, now I don't know if I can believe this or not.
You'll just have to take a leap of faith and decide 1 way or the other.
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JO is mia from every preseason list... that will change... 15 points 8 rebounds and 4.5 Blocks per game will do that. :dance:
Aim high MN.
I think 10 pts, 7 boards(7.5 or more :crossfingers:), and 3 blocks per game might be about where he winds up.
I've just never seen enough of a low post game out of him to lead me to believe he's going to be a "go to guy" offensively, meaning averaging well into double digits. But keep knocking down that 15 fter and cleaning up garbage around the rim(with authority!) and I think about 10 PPG might be about right.
Regarding his shotblocking, I know he averaged about 4 per game over about the last 10 games last year, which was elite, but it's tough to do that over the course of a 35 game season.
His lack of any real hype on any of these preseason lists is a bit confounding. Even if he's not averaging 4-5 blocks per game, he's still a big-time defensive presence who alters a ton of shots around the rim. I really don't think other bigs like Alex Oriakhi(ranked 94th on the list above) or Josh Smith(around 90th) will overall be more effective than JO. Hope JO can prove all the "experts" wrong.
15 points is probably really high because he will get 0 transition buckets all year, I am hoping this is the year JO starts with a spark and can get his block total juiced in a couple preseason games. Like do something stupid like 25 pancakes in a 3 meaningless games. Angel should be even better in Pick and Roll situations adding to JOs Angle-oops per game. :gocho:
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JO is mia from every preseason list... that will change... 15 points 8 rebounds and 4.5 Blocks per game will do that. :dance:
Aim high MN.
I think 10 pts, 7 boards(7.5 or more :crossfingers:), and 3 blocks per game might be about where he winds up.
I've just never seen enough of a low post game out of him to lead me to believe he's going to be a "go to guy" offensively, meaning averaging well into double digits. But keep knocking down that 15 fter and cleaning up garbage around the rim(with authority!) and I think about 10 PPG might be about right.
Regarding his shotblocking, I know he averaged about 4 per game over about the last 10 games last year, which was elite, but it's tough to do that over the course of a 35 game season.
His lack of any real hype on any of these preseason lists is a bit confounding. Even if he's not averaging 4-5 blocks per game, he's still a big-time defensive presence who alters a ton of shots around the rim. I really don't think other bigs like Alex Oriakhi(ranked 94th on the list above) or Josh Smith(around 90th) will overall be more effective than JO. Hope JO can prove all the "experts" wrong.
15 points is probably really high because he will get 0 transition buckets all year, I am hoping this is the year JO starts with a spark and can get his block total juiced in a couple preseason games. Like do something stupid like 25 pancakes in a 3 meaningless games. Angel should be even better in Pick and Roll situations adding to JOs Angle-oops per game. :gocho:
When has JO ever been a threat in transition? I mean he runs well for his size but he's not really the type to beat everybody down the floor and finish at the rim.
We're probably looking at closer to 10 than 15 ppg from him.
Knock em on their butts, JO.
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I can see JO going for 12 and 8
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Gruds tabbed as 5th team AA by Vitale. No FR are included on this list and yeah, it's Vitale, it's still good to see Gruds get pub.
http://espn.go.com/espn/dickvitale/story/_/id/8507689/dick-vitale-preseason-all-solid-gold-teams-2012-13