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Title: Hurricane oscar
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on September 26, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
http://www.foxsportskansascity.com/09/25/12/K-State-players-say-Weber-has-plenty-of-/landing_kstate.html?blockID=795617 (http://www.foxsportskansascity.com/09/25/12/K-State-players-say-Weber-has-plenty-of-/landing_kstate.html?blockID=795617)
  :D
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: 8manpick on September 26, 2012, 01:04:07 PM
I sure hope oscar is awesome at winning basketball games!
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
me too 8manpick, me too.

i wouldn't describe oscar as a hurricane though.  he reminds me of a 50 megaton nuclear weapon developed by the soviets and tested in 1962.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 26, 2012, 01:15:51 PM
Yeah, buddy!  :billdance:
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: 'taterblast on September 26, 2012, 01:19:56 PM
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Tru dat.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: mocat on September 26, 2012, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: Martavious
"The honeymoon was over a long time ago. It ended a long time ago, I know that. oscar has showed a few moments that he's got some Frank in him."

Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: kso_FAN on September 26, 2012, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: the players in this article
oscar is not a prick and he can actually play basketball.

None of that makes him a better coach, or that the players will play as hard as they did for Frank, or that he'll win. But that's what I got from that.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: _33 on September 26, 2012, 03:12:11 PM
The question remains whether a player will play harder out of fear or out of love.  I tend to agree with the Machiavellian stance that it is better to be feared than loved if one must be lacking.  Therefore while I believe players will play hard for oscar I don't believe they will play as hard as they did for Frank.  It's just not going to happen. 

"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with.  Men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2012, 03:16:11 PM
frank martin is an embarrassment and a disgrace to whichever school's bench he represents.  his coaching "tactics" are a farce. 
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
I'm just worried that no one can love oscar.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: OK_Cat on September 26, 2012, 03:28:08 PM
me too 8manpick, me too.

i wouldn't describe oscar as a hurricane though.  he reminds me of a 50 megaton nuclear weapon developed by the soviets and tested in 1962.
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HERE COMES THE oscar WEBER PAIN TRAIN!
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2012, 03:29:32 PM
Summary:  Thank God we're rid of Frank and his abusive ways.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 26, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
oscar is nothing but positive reinforcement.

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Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: sys on September 26, 2012, 07:43:17 PM
sean keeler is writing fluff pieces about kstate now instead of telling people kstate cheats in des moines chatrooms.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2012, 07:51:19 PM
Hindsight is 20/20, but all of the evidence shows us that we should have fired Frank sooner.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: Trim on September 26, 2012, 08:25:48 PM
sean keeler is writing fluff pieces about kstate now instead of telling people kstate cheats in des moines chatrooms.

:thumbs:
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: Panjandrum on September 26, 2012, 08:35:44 PM
sean keeler is writing fluff pieces about kstate now instead of telling people kstate cheats in des moines chatrooms.

I enjoyed the Hell out of this post.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: SdK on September 26, 2012, 08:50:23 PM
I'm so excited to watch our KSU Cats play the game of basketball, win, and enjoy it.

This is the story of Hurricane...
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: Testy Westy on September 26, 2012, 09:12:15 PM
What if guys...

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Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 26, 2012, 09:21:11 PM
sean keeler is writing fluff pieces about kstate now instead of telling people kstate cheats in des moines chatrooms.

wow. how could i forget.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: highway61 on September 26, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
The question remains whether a player will play harder out of fear or out of love.  I tend to agree with the Machiavellian stance that it is better to be feared than loved if one must be lacking.  Therefore while I believe players will play hard for oscar I don't believe they will play as hard as they did for Frank.  It's just not going to happen. 

"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with.  Men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."

Quote from: Michael Scott
I want people to be afraid of how much they love me.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on September 26, 2012, 09:57:10 PM
The question remains whether a player will play harder out of fear or out of love.  I tend to agree with the Machiavellian stance that it is better to be feared than loved if one must be lacking.  Therefore while I believe players will play hard for oscar I don't believe they will play as hard as they did for Frank.  It's just not going to happen. 

"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with.  Men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."

Wrong and Wrong, players play hard for playing time...up to the coach to enforce it, doesn't matter if it is out of love or fear.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: _33 on September 26, 2012, 10:37:36 PM
The question remains whether a player will play harder out of fear or out of love.  I tend to agree with the Machiavellian stance that it is better to be feared than loved if one must be lacking.  Therefore while I believe players will play hard for oscar I don't believe they will play as hard as they did for Frank.  It's just not going to happen. 

"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with.  Men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."

Wrong and Wrong, players play hard for playing time...up to the coach to enforce it, doesn't matter if it is out of love or fear.

So they play hard because of a fear that the coach will punish them with less playing time.  Oh, I see you've met my friends Check and Mate.  I'll let you guys talk.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: mancattanite on September 27, 2012, 12:14:16 AM
The question remains whether a player will play harder out of fear or out of love.  I tend to agree with the Machiavellian stance that it is better to be feared than loved if one must be lacking.  Therefore while I believe players will play hard for oscar I don't believe they will play as hard as they did for Frank.  It's just not going to happen. 

"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with.  Men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."

Wrong and Wrong, players play hard for playing time...up to the coach to enforce it, doesn't matter if it is out of love or fear.

So they play hard because of a fear that the coach will punish them with less playing time.  Oh, I see you've met my friends Check and Mate.  I'll let you guys talk.

I don't know if fear or love is better, but I think the there are a lot of factors that go into players playing hard.  I think one of the most important ones is pride.  Look at Snyder's 16 goals. Pride isn't in there, but it is impossible to achieve those goals without a sense of pride, both in one's self and in your team. If Weber can get a sense of pride and unity in a team, they will go far.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: pissclams on September 27, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
i'm going to be a coach and just carry a gun with me at all times on the sidelines.  my pregame speech to the team will be play hard or die.  same as my halftime speech of course, as well as my post game speech.

undefeated natty champs (w/troph to prove it) and hopefully old balls gets us to the bcs victory

best season ever?  trophs galore?  yup.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2012, 10:44:03 AM
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Tru dat.

 :confused:

Sean Keeler is a disgusting human being, worst of the worst.
Title: Re: Hurricane oscar
Post by: OB_Won on September 27, 2012, 12:09:43 PM
The question remains whether a player will play harder out of fear or out of love.  I tend to agree with the Machiavellian stance that it is better to be feared than loved if one must be lacking.  Therefore while I believe players will play hard for oscar I don't believe they will play as hard as they did for Frank.  It's just not going to happen. 

"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with.  Men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."

Wrong and Wrong, players play hard for playing time...up to the coach to enforce it, doesn't matter if it is out of love or fear.

So they play hard because of a fear that the coach will punish them with less playing time.  Oh, I see you've met my friends Check and Mate.  I'll let you guys talk.

I don't know if fear or love is better, but I think the there are a lot of factors that go into players playing hard.  I think one of the most important ones is pride.  Look at Snyder's 16 goals. Pride isn't in there, but it is impossible to achieve those goals without a sense of pride, both in one's self and in your team. If Weber can get a sense of pride and unity in a team, they will go far.
I think teams playing hard or with pride becomes even more evident when the leaders and/or best players demand this of their teammates.  I think of Ray Lewis and the Baltimore defense for over a decade even after coaches and personnel have changed.  I wonder if Arthur or Collin let guys take a series off?  Honestly don't know how/if they lead.  Pullen seemed to demand that his teams play all out.