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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Lefty on March 17, 2010, 12:23:47 PM
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Feel free to discuss North Texas and their team's style at anytime fellas. I've been waiting patiently for a couple days to read something, but it seems you're more innersted in the media infatuation with the powercats.
Seriously what tempo, what tendencies, what players, what do we expose, how do we win and most importantly, who do they compare with in other teams we've played?
* Strong but small point guard
* Big dude down low
* Smaller yet stronger forwards
What else?
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W, 85-65 95%
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If only we had CF0506 to give us A Look At UNT... :runaway:
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http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=2239.msg37402#msg37402
Just because you're too lazy too look for it....
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* iowa state senior night messed up my ksu feelings
* fort hays state
* nebraska raining threes in the ood
forgive my :ohno: 'ness
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i haven't found the 1:15minutes to set aside in my busy day to listen to the above average amateur podcast.
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i haven't found the 1:15minutes to set aside in my busy day to listen to the above average amateur podcast.
Yet you want the exact same people to post a UNT scouting report? :dunno:
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Wow, those podcasts actually have content? This is the first one I've listened to. Honestly I just expected them to be a bunch of random insidery references and jokes. Kind of surprised there is, you know, HBBIQ analysis. Bravo sir(s).
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i haven't found the 1:15minutes to set aside in my busy day to listen to the above average amateur podcast.
Yet you want the exact same people to post a UNT scouting report? :dunno:
It's a little different. Type out some quick tips, points of emphasis. Beat writers, sports journalists and pundits love to rehash their tidbits. Why only say it once?
Plus it's rough ridin' one day until the biggest tournament I've ever been apart of in my ksu fan days. Forgive my enthralledness.
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Honestly I just expected them to be a bunch of random insidery references and jokes.
This pretty much sums up the one I was involved in :gocho:
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Honestly I just expected them to be a bunch of random insidery references and jokes.
This pretty much sums up the one I was involved in :gocho:
It was amazing. Podcast #5 RAW will be posted on the premium board soon.
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Feel free to discuss North Texas and their team's style at anytime fellas. I've been waiting patiently for a couple days to read something, but it seems you're more innersted in the media infatuation with the powercats.
Seriously what tempo, what tendencies, what players, what do we expose, how do we win and most importantly, who do they compare with in other teams we've played?
* Strong but small point guard
* Big dude down low
* Smaller yet stronger forwards
What else?
:blah:
let's skip straight to the byu game. the interesting one.
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Skip to Pitt or Syracuse.
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Honestly I just expected them to be a bunch of random insidery references and jokes.
This pretty much sums up the one I was involved in :gocho:
:combofan:
It was amazing. Podcast #5 RAW will be posted on the premium board soon.
I've heard some rumblings from slimz that the uncut version is some amazing stuff.
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Feel free to discuss North Texas and their team's style at anytime fellas. I've been waiting patiently for a couple days to read something, but it seems you're more innersted in the media infatuation with the powercats.
Seriously what tempo, what tendencies, what players, what do we expose, how do we win and most importantly, who do they compare with in other teams we've played?
* Strong but small point guard
* Big dude down low
* Smaller yet stronger forwards
What else?
The only thing you need to expose is your gaping rectums because struggling only makes it worse.
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Feel free to discuss North Texas and their team's style at anytime fellas. I've been waiting patiently for a couple days to read something, but it seems you're more innersted in the media infatuation with the powercats.
Seriously what tempo, what tendencies, what players, what do we expose, how do we win and most importantly, who do they compare with in other teams we've played?
* Strong but small point guard
* Big dude down low
* Smaller yet stronger forwards
What else?
The only thing you need to expose is your gaping rectums because struggling only makes it worse.
pffffttttt :lol:
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UNT scouting report (catsfan0304 approved):
A Look at North Texas
The Mean Green went 24-8 (13-5 in the Sun Belt Conference) with a win at Western Kentucky and a loss to Florida International. The Mean Green return 5 starters off of a team that went 20-12 (11-7) last season.
The Mean Green are lead by G's Josh White and Tristan Thompson and F's Eric Tramiel and George Odufuwa. White averaged 15 points/game (leads the team), 2 rebounds/game and 4 assists/game (leads the team). White won Sun Belt Freshman-of-the-Year honors and shoots 83% from the free throw line.
Thompson averaged 14 points/game, 3 rebounds/game and 2 assist/game. Thompson also shoots free throws well (81%) and also co leads the team in 3 point shooting % with White (40%).
Tramiel averaged 13 points/game, 6 rebounds/game and 1 assist/game. Tramiel shoots 56% from the field and Odufuwa and Tramiel are big time shot blockers.
Odufuwa averaged 12 points/game, 11 rebounds/game (leads the team) and 2 assists/game. Odufuwa had 21 blocks and was second on the team with 29 steals last season.
ya happy?
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I'd be more interested in...everything else?!?
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On my phone now, might gave time for NT breakdown later, but most is covered in the podcast.
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War Eagle
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UNT scouting report (catsfan0304 approved):
A Look at North Texas
The Mean Green went 24-8 (13-5 in the Sun Belt Conference) with a win at Western Kentucky and a loss to Florida International. The Mean Green return 5 starters off of a team that went 20-12 (11-7) last season.
The Mean Green are lead by G's Josh White and Tristan Thompson and F's Eric Tramiel and George Odufuwa. White averaged 15 points/game (leads the team), 2 rebounds/game and 4 assists/game (leads the team). White won Sun Belt Freshman-of-the-Year honors and shoots 83% from the free throw line.
Thompson averaged 14 points/game, 3 rebounds/game and 2 assist/game. Thompson also shoots free throws well (81%) and also co leads the team in 3 point shooting % with White (40%).
Tramiel averaged 13 points/game, 6 rebounds/game and 1 assist/game. Tramiel shoots 56% from the field and Odufuwa and Tramiel are big time shot blockers.
Odufuwa averaged 12 points/game, 11 rebounds/game (leads the team) and 2 assists/game. Odufuwa had 21 blocks and was second on the team with 29 steals last season.
ya happy?
Isn't Asprilla from the Sun Belt? He should lead the scouting report against these scrubs. Will be a good way for him to practice his English.
Watched a little of their conf champ game. They had to play out of their minds to beat whoever the f^ck it was they played. One guy on their team posterized another dood then rolled his ankle. Cool play, probably ESPN top 10. They're like 6" shorter than us at every position.
Bring on Billy Donovan, his greasy hair and Eddie Munster widows peak, cuz da Catz are gonna roll
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UNT scouting report (catsfan0304 approved):
A Look at North Texas
The Mean Green went 24-8 (13-5 in the Sun Belt Conference) with a win at Western Kentucky and a loss to Florida International. The Mean Green return 5 starters off of a team that went 20-12 (11-7) last season.
The Mean Green are lead by G's Josh White and Tristan Thompson and F's Eric Tramiel and George Odufuwa. White averaged 15 points/game (leads the team), 2 rebounds/game and 4 assists/game (leads the team). White won Sun Belt Freshman-of-the-Year honors and shoots 83% from the free throw line.
Thompson averaged 14 points/game, 3 rebounds/game and 2 assist/game. Thompson also shoots free throws well (81%) and also co leads the team in 3 point shooting % with White (40%).
Tramiel averaged 13 points/game, 6 rebounds/game and 1 assist/game. Tramiel shoots 56% from the field and Odufuwa and Tramiel are big time shot blockers.
Odufuwa averaged 12 points/game, 11 rebounds/game (leads the team) and 2 assists/game. Odufuwa had 21 blocks and was second on the team with 29 steals last season.
ya happy?
Isn't Asprilla from the Sun Belt? He should lead the scouting report against these scrubs. Will be a good way for him to practice his English.
Watched a little of their conf champ game. They had to play out of their minds to beat whoever the f^ck it was they played. One guy on their team posterized another dood then rolled his ankle. Cool play, probably ESPN top 10. They're like 6" shorter than us at every position.
Bring on Billy Donovan, his greasy hair and Eddie Munster widows peak, cuz da Catz are gonna roll
Freddy left FIU along time ago, way before Josh White got there. Dude couldn't help scouting, plus, WE DONT NEED HELP. Even if we play horrible...we still win by 15.
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1. NT likes a high pace game (ave around 70 per) and will push when they have a chance, with PG White leading the way.
2. NT's strength on offense is attacking the rim and drawing fouls. They are #1 in the country at getting to the line (FT rate) and have 5 guys with 100 or more attempts.
3. NT has two solid interior players in Odufuwa and Tramiel. Odufuwa is one of the leading rebounders in the country, but is not great at creating his own shots. Tramiel is sort of a JamSam type, but undersized.
4. NT is not a great shooting team and their biggest threats are White and Thompson. Those two will look for shots, but most others won't.
5. NT is solid on defense, mainly in man to man. Not a pressure team and they won't force many TOs. Sort of play like ISU here.
6. White is a key player, but a small guard. We should be able to take advantage of that, and after him they don't have a lot of guys that can handle the ball.
If we pressure the ball and take advantage of our inside depth we should pull away fairly early and win big. If we allow then to draw fouls and get us into foul trouble and let them run with us, we may let them make it a game. I'm not expecting them to be able to manage some ridiculous shooting performance to beat us.
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KSU_fan,
Thanks for the quick breakdown. That's exactly what I was looking for and gives me plenty of ammo to tell my wife at dinner tonight when she asks how my team will do tomorrow.
* I love your point about them not being a hot shooting/streaky type of team. Although BYU :ohno: 's me in this respect.
* They almost mirror us in a lot of different ways. I've got to like us in this type of dirty and physical game.
* Sutton and Pullen will have a field day with steals and transition buckets.
That's all I needed and thanks ksufan. Also, frickin great podcast. I listened with amazement for the first time this year. You guys are really good for being basement noobs.
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No problem.
The other thing is after Tramiel and Odufuwa they only have one other big that plays. I expect them to be in serious foul trouble in the first half. They will have a lot of trouble with Kelly and JamSam defensively.
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No problem.
The other thing is after Tramiel and Odufuwa they only have one other big that plays. I expect them to be in serious foul trouble in the first half. They will have a lot of trouble with Kelly and JamSam defensively.
Your podcast and breakdown are fairly accurate, especially considering you've admittedly only watched a game and a half of North Texas basketball.
The other big you mentioned, Jacob Holman will only see the floor if we're in serious foul trouble...he's talented and athletic, but also very much a true freshman and has seen his minutes cut or eliminated as the season progressed. Cameron Spencer (6'8" 275lb) will see the bulk of the frontcourt reserve minutes...which, again baring foul issues, shouldn't be more than about 15 minutes. Spencer won't score, but he eats space and rebounds efficiently for his time on the floor.
Either, if not both, Odufuwa or Tramiel will have a double-double. Mark it. I'm intrigued to see the interior battles if for no other reason than how good both teams are at getting to the line...and considering both our bigs have been very adept at staying out of foul trouble.
Josh White and Tristan Thompson are at times explosive scorers and at time questionable decision makers...I'm sure that sounds familiar.
Shannon Shorter can play the 2,3 or 4...is our best defender...and is a do the little things kinda player that every team needs.
Our bench has shown flashes of brilliance...but unless one starts to just go crazy scoring the ball, the only one who may see more than 15 minutes is Collin Mangrum, a decent shooter who rebounds and defends well.
All of that considered, I stand by the 100-0 prediction offered up earlier.
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UNT scouting report (catsfan0304 approved):
A Look at North Texas
The Mean Green went 24-8 (13-5 in the Sun Belt Conference) with a win at Western Kentucky and a loss to Florida International. The Mean Green return 5 starters off of a team that went 20-12 (11-7) last season.
The Mean Green are lead by G's Josh White and Tristan Thompson and F's Eric Tramiel and George Odufuwa. White averaged 15 points/game (leads the team), 2 rebounds/game and 4 assists/game (leads the team). White won Sun Belt Freshman-of-the-Year honors and shoots 83% from the free throw line.
Thompson averaged 14 points/game, 3 rebounds/game and 2 assist/game. Thompson also shoots free throws well (81%) and also co leads the team in 3 point shooting % with White (40%).
Tramiel averaged 13 points/game, 6 rebounds/game and 1 assist/game. Tramiel shoots 56% from the field and Odufuwa and Tramiel are big time shot blockers.
Odufuwa averaged 12 points/game, 11 rebounds/game (leads the team) and 2 assists/game. Odufuwa had 21 blocks and was second on the team with 29 steals last season.
ya happy?
Isn't Asprilla from the Sun Belt? He should lead the scouting report against these scrubs. Will be a good way for him to practice his English.
Watched a little of their conf champ game. They had to play out of their minds to beat whoever the f^ck it was they played. One guy on their team posterized another dood then rolled his ankle. Cool play, probably ESPN top 10. They're like 6" shorter than us at every position.
Bring on Billy Donovan, his greasy hair and Eddie Munster widows peak, cuz da Catz are gonna roll
Freddy left FIU along time ago, way before Josh White got there. Dude couldn't help scouting, plus, WE DONT NEED HELP. Even if we play horrible...we still win by 15.
Well then scrap that idea :facepalm:
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UNT scouting report (catsfan0304 approved):
A Look at North Texas
The Mean Green went 24-8 (13-5 in the Sun Belt Conference) with a win at Western Kentucky and a loss to Florida International. The Mean Green return 5 starters off of a team that went 20-12 (11-7) last season.
The Mean Green are lead by G's Josh White and Tristan Thompson and F's Eric Tramiel and George Odufuwa. White averaged 15 points/game (leads the team), 2 rebounds/game and 4 assists/game (leads the team). White won Sun Belt Freshman-of-the-Year honors and shoots 83% from the free throw line.
Thompson averaged 14 points/game, 3 rebounds/game and 2 assist/game. Thompson also shoots free throws well (81%) and also co leads the team in 3 point shooting % with White (40%).
Tramiel averaged 13 points/game, 6 rebounds/game and 1 assist/game. Tramiel shoots 56% from the field and Odufuwa and Tramiel are big time shot blockers.
Odufuwa averaged 12 points/game, 11 rebounds/game (leads the team) and 2 assists/game. Odufuwa had 21 blocks and was second on the team with 29 steals last season.
ya happy?
Isn't Asprilla from the Sun Belt? He should lead the scouting report against these scrubs. Will be a good way for him to practice his English.
Watched a little of their conf champ game. They had to play out of their minds to beat whoever the f^ck it was they played. One guy on their team posterized another dood then rolled his ankle. Cool play, probably ESPN top 10. They're like 6" shorter than us at every position.
Bring on Billy Donovan, his greasy hair and Eddie Munster widows peak, cuz da Catz are gonna roll
Freddy left FIU along time ago, way before Josh White got there. Dude couldn't help scouting, plus, WE DONT NEED HELP. Even if we play horrible...we still win by 15.
Well then scrap that idea :facepalm:
Josh and Freddy were both freshmen in 07-08...but looking at the box of the FIU/UNT game it seems Aspirilla didn't play.
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No problem.
The other thing is after Tramiel and Odufuwa they only have one other big that plays. I expect them to be in serious foul trouble in the first half. They will have a lot of trouble with Kelly and JamSam defensively.
Your podcast and breakdown are fairly accurate, especially considering you've admittedly only watched a game and a half of North Texas basketball.
The other big you mentioned, Jacob Holman will only see the floor if we're in serious foul trouble...he's talented and athletic, but also very much a true freshman and has seen his minutes cut or eliminated as the season progressed. Cameron Spencer (6'8" 275lb) will see the bulk of the frontcourt reserve minutes...which, again baring foul issues, shouldn't be more than about 15 minutes. Spencer won't score, but he eats space and rebounds efficiently for his time on the floor.
Either, if not both, Odufuwa or Tramiel will have a double-double. Mark it. I'm intrigued to see the interior battles if for no other reason than how good both teams are at getting to the line...and considering both our bigs have been very adept at staying out of foul trouble.
Josh White and Tristan Thompson are at times explosive scorers and at time questionable decision makers...I'm sure that sounds familiar.
Shannon Shorter can play the 2,3 or 4...is our best defender...and is a do the little things kinda player that every team needs.
Our bench has shown flashes of brilliance...but unless one starts to just go crazy scoring the ball, the only one who may see more than 15 minutes is Collin Mangrum, a decent shooter who rebounds and defends well.
All of that considered, I stand by the 100-0 prediction offered up earlier.
This guy describes UNT hoops the way I build KSU up in my mind. "If everything goes exactly 100% perfect for us and just average for KU, then we've got an answer for every guy on their 23 man roster."
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UNT scouting report (catsfan0304 approved):
A Look at North Texas
The Mean Green went 24-8 (13-5 in the Sun Belt Conference) with a win at Western Kentucky and a loss to Florida International. The Mean Green return 5 starters off of a team that went 20-12 (11-7) last season.
The Mean Green are lead by G's Josh White and Tristan Thompson and F's Eric Tramiel and George Odufuwa. White averaged 15 points/game (leads the team), 2 rebounds/game and 4 assists/game (leads the team). White won Sun Belt Freshman-of-the-Year honors and shoots 83% from the free throw line.
Thompson averaged 14 points/game, 3 rebounds/game and 2 assist/game. Thompson also shoots free throws well (81%) and also co leads the team in 3 point shooting % with White (40%).
Tramiel averaged 13 points/game, 6 rebounds/game and 1 assist/game. Tramiel shoots 56% from the field and Odufuwa and Tramiel are big time shot blockers.
Odufuwa averaged 12 points/game, 11 rebounds/game (leads the team) and 2 assists/game. Odufuwa had 21 blocks and was second on the team with 29 steals last season.
ya happy?
Isn't Asprilla from the Sun Belt? He should lead the scouting report against these scrubs. Will be a good way for him to practice his English.
Watched a little of their conf champ game. They had to play out of their minds to beat whoever the f^ck it was they played. One guy on their team posterized another dood then rolled his ankle. Cool play, probably ESPN top 10. They're like 6" shorter than us at every position.
Bring on Billy Donovan, his greasy hair and Eddie Munster widows peak, cuz da Catz are gonna roll
Freddy left FIU along time ago, way before Josh White got there. Dude couldn't help scouting, plus, WE DONT NEED HELP. Even if we play horrible...we still win by 15.
Well then scrap that idea :facepalm:
Josh and Freddy were both freshmen in 07-08...but looking at the box of the FIU/UNT game it seems Aspirilla didn't play.
The same Freddy Asprilla that was Sun-Belt Frosh of the Year in 2008-09? No wonder he didn't play. He wasn't even an active player on FIU's roster.
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UNT scouting report (catsfan0304 approved):
A Look at North Texas
The Mean Green went 24-8 (13-5 in the Sun Belt Conference) with a win at Western Kentucky and a loss to Florida International. The Mean Green return 5 starters off of a team that went 20-12 (11-7) last season.
The Mean Green are lead by G's Josh White and Tristan Thompson and F's Eric Tramiel and George Odufuwa. White averaged 15 points/game (leads the team), 2 rebounds/game and 4 assists/game (leads the team). White won Sun Belt Freshman-of-the-Year honors and shoots 83% from the free throw line.
Thompson averaged 14 points/game, 3 rebounds/game and 2 assist/game. Thompson also shoots free throws well (81%) and also co leads the team in 3 point shooting % with White (40%).
Tramiel averaged 13 points/game, 6 rebounds/game and 1 assist/game. Tramiel shoots 56% from the field and Odufuwa and Tramiel are big time shot blockers.
Odufuwa averaged 12 points/game, 11 rebounds/game (leads the team) and 2 assists/game. Odufuwa had 21 blocks and was second on the team with 29 steals last season.
ya happy?
Isn't Asprilla from the Sun Belt? He should lead the scouting report against these scrubs. Will be a good way for him to practice his English.
Watched a little of their conf champ game. They had to play out of their minds to beat whoever the f^ck it was they played. One guy on their team posterized another dood then rolled his ankle. Cool play, probably ESPN top 10. They're like 6" shorter than us at every position.
Bring on Billy Donovan, his greasy hair and Eddie Munster widows peak, cuz da Catz are gonna roll
Freddy left FIU along time ago, way before Josh White got there. Dude couldn't help scouting, plus, WE DONT NEED HELP. Even if we play horrible...we still win by 15.
Well then scrap that idea :facepalm:
Josh and Freddy were both freshmen in 07-08...but looking at the box of the FIU/UNT game it seems Aspirilla didn't play.
The same Freddy Asprilla that was Sun-Belt Frosh of the Year in 2008-09? No wonder he didn't play. He wasn't even an active player on FIU's roster.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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UNT scouting report (catsfan0304 approved):
A Look at North Texas
The Mean Green went 24-8 (13-5 in the Sun Belt Conference) with a win at Western Kentucky and a loss to Florida International. The Mean Green return 5 starters off of a team that went 20-12 (11-7) last season.
The Mean Green are lead by G's Josh White and Tristan Thompson and F's Eric Tramiel and George Odufuwa. White averaged 15 points/game (leads the team), 2 rebounds/game and 4 assists/game (leads the team). White won Sun Belt Freshman-of-the-Year honors and shoots 83% from the free throw line.
Thompson averaged 14 points/game, 3 rebounds/game and 2 assist/game. Thompson also shoots free throws well (81%) and also co leads the team in 3 point shooting % with White (40%).
Tramiel averaged 13 points/game, 6 rebounds/game and 1 assist/game. Tramiel shoots 56% from the field and Odufuwa and Tramiel are big time shot blockers.
Odufuwa averaged 12 points/game, 11 rebounds/game (leads the team) and 2 assists/game. Odufuwa had 21 blocks and was second on the team with 29 steals last season.
ya happy?
Isn't Asprilla from the Sun Belt? He should lead the scouting report against these scrubs. Will be a good way for him to practice his English.
Watched a little of their conf champ game. They had to play out of their minds to beat whoever the f^ck it was they played. One guy on their team posterized another dood then rolled his ankle. Cool play, probably ESPN top 10. They're like 6" shorter than us at every position.
Bring on Billy Donovan, his greasy hair and Eddie Munster widows peak, cuz da Catz are gonna roll
Freddy left FIU along time ago, way before Josh White got there. Dude couldn't help scouting, plus, WE DONT NEED HELP. Even if we play horrible...we still win by 15.
Well then scrap that idea :facepalm:
Josh and Freddy were both freshmen in 07-08...but looking at the box of the FIU/UNT game it seems Aspirilla didn't play.
The same Freddy Asprilla that was Sun-Belt Frosh of the Year in 2008-09? No wonder he didn't play. He wasn't even an active player on FIU's roster.
You're right...I just pulled up the box score from the 08-09 game and he didn't play in that as well.