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Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 02:58:25 PM
(ku obvs)

man what a tough schedule left.  I don't think we've ever had as tough a conference schedule. Finishing 5-4 would be very good.   
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on September 16, 2012, 03:08:31 PM
loser mentality
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 03:10:52 PM
loser mentality
in what way? (if you're just being a idiot troll who doesn't want a halfway intelligent conversation about ksu football let me know now so I don't waste my time "debating" with you).
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on September 16, 2012, 03:12:34 PM
loser mentality
in what way? (if you're just being a idiot troll who doesn't want a halfway intelligent conversation about ksu football let me know now so I don't waste my time "debating" with you).
being satisfied with anything less than perfection is a loser mentality. we went 10-2 last year, and could have been 11-1. Why is everyone so quick to accept an 8-4 alamo bowl berth
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 03:14:12 PM
loser mentality
in what way? (if you're just being a idiot troll who doesn't want a halfway intelligent conversation about ksu football let me know now so I don't waste my time "debating" with you).
being satisfied with anything less than perfection is a loser mentality. we went 10-2 last year, and could have been 11-1. Why is everyone so quick to accept an 8-4 alamo bowl berth
idiot troll it is

if you can't bother to read or have the ability understand topics stay out of them
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: doom on September 16, 2012, 03:14:23 PM
Who are the losses?  @OU, @WVU?  Maybe UT, @TCU (although I think we can get that one)

I see Tech as a gimmie.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Winters on September 16, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
loser mentality
in what way? (if you're just being a idiot troll who doesn't want a halfway intelligent conversation about ksu football let me know now so I don't waste my time "debating" with you).
being satisfied with anything less than perfection is a loser mentality. we went 10-2 last year, and could have been 11-1. Why is everyone so quick to accept an 8-4 alamo bowl berth
That is a dumb talking point.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on September 16, 2012, 03:16:59 PM
loser mentality
in what way? (if you're just being a idiot troll who doesn't want a halfway intelligent conversation about ksu football let me know now so I don't waste my time "debating" with you).
being satisfied with anything less than perfection is a loser mentality. we went 10-2 last year, and could have been 11-1. Why is everyone so quick to accept an 8-4 alamo bowl berth
idiot troll it is

if you can't bother to read or have the ability understand topics stay out of them
i recognize there are several losable games, but when you say "5-4 would be good" then it's a loser mentality. Im not disagreeing that KSU could lose 4 games, but you still hope for the best
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on September 16, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
Who are the losses?  @OU, @WVU?  Maybe UT, @TCU (although I think we can get that one)

I see Tech as a gimmie.
Every game is losable. north texas was losable. any time you step on the field the game is losable. the thing is every game is winnable to. there isn't a single team in the Big 12 i look at and say "we can't beat them".
I think we slip up against OU or Texas.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 03:18:30 PM
Who are the losses?  @OU, @WVU?  Maybe UT, @TCU (although I think we can get that one)

I see Tech as a gimmie.
I see ku as a gimmie the rest as 50-50, with maybe more likely to lose OU, TU and  WV.  Its a rough ridin' though league man. Can we win them all? Sure we can, but it's not a step back as program if we don't.  Going 5-4 would probably mean beating more top 25 teams in a season than KSU ever has.  That's amazing.
Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: steve dave on September 16, 2012, 03:18:30 PM
Agreed chings, it's a monster. Agree that 5-4 would be good. Really hoping for 7-2.
Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: steve dave on September 16, 2012, 03:19:37 PM
We will need a ton of "breaks" for 7-2 though. Texas looks fantastic.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: kso_FAN on September 16, 2012, 03:21:10 PM
7-2 would be darn good.
6-3 acceptable, still happy.
5-4 disappointing, but okay.
4-5 or worse, very upset.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 03:24:47 PM
7-2 would probably mean KSU has beaten more ranked teams in one season than it ever has before (maybe even TWICE as many!)  I mean it would incredible. 
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Panjandrum on September 16, 2012, 03:27:55 PM
@ Iowa State scares me.  Like more than @ TCU.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: wazucat on September 16, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
When Brown was on the bench yesterday, 4-5 in the remaining games looked very possible, hope that bullet was dodged.
Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: steve dave on September 16, 2012, 03:29:49 PM
I'm not that worried about ISU because their coach is a career loser.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: ChiComCat on September 16, 2012, 03:30:37 PM
We will need a ton of "breaks" for 7-2 though. Texas looks fantastic.

I think Ash was taking advantage of horrendous pass defense.  A number of his deep balls were under thrown and Ole Miss defenders made miserable adjustments.  Zimm/Malone would of ended up with a couple picks in that game (the rest of our secondary may be just as bad)
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
If we manage to stay healthy I see us going 7-2 or 8-1 the rest of the way. Obviously A few key injuries could derail this thing with our lack of depth.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 03:31:52 PM
In case anyone cares, it seems the most ranked teams we have beat in a regular season is 3. (1998)

Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: kso_FAN on September 16, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
In case anyone cares, it seems the most ranked teams we have beat in a regular season is 3. (1998)

I care.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2012, 03:34:31 PM
So TCU, WVU TX possibly OSU or Baylor ?
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 03:35:19 PM
If the team finishes 10-2 this year it will (most likely) be the best team LHC Bill Snyder has ever coached.  Yes even better than 1998 or 2003 teams.

Hell finishing 9-3 might be better too, depending on who we beat.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 16, 2012, 03:36:07 PM
so do we lose one we shouldn't and win won we shouldn't, I say probably
Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: kso_FAN on September 16, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
If the team finishes 10-2 this year it will (most likely) be the best team LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder has ever coached.  Yes even better than 1998 or 2003 teams.

Hell finishing 9-3 might be better too, depending on who we beat.

Good stuff in this thread Chingon.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 03:39:32 PM
If the team finishes 10-2 this year it will (most likely) be the best team LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder has ever coached.  Yes even better than 1998 or 2003 teams.

Hell finishing 9-3 might be better too, depending on who we beat.

Good stuff in this thread Chingon.
FYI
http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_records.php?teamname=Kansas%20St.&fry=1989&thy=2012&yrk=on&cres=3&jpl=on&spl=on&sortby=Year
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Panjandrum on September 16, 2012, 03:43:20 PM
In case anyone cares, it seems the most ranked teams we have beat in a regular season is 3. (1998)

Is that using teams that were ranked after the season, or ranked when we actually played them?
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
In case anyone cares, it seems the most ranked teams we have beat in a regular season is 3. (1998)

Is that using teams that were ranked after the season, or ranked when we actually played them?
good point, my source says at the time of the game.  Don't think it will be much different for end of the year though.  Might be worse even.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: star seed 7 on September 16, 2012, 04:23:04 PM
_fan knocking it out of the park in this thread.   :cool:
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: SdK on September 16, 2012, 04:25:56 PM
My favorite part is that he is ksu_FAN. So simple. So beautiful.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Pendergast on September 16, 2012, 04:29:55 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Skipper44 on September 16, 2012, 05:22:08 PM
Quote
FYI
http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_records.php?teamname=Kansas%20St.&fry=1989&thy=2012&yrk=on&cres=3&jpl=on&spl=on&sortby=Year
So, would you call 1997 Snyder's best team ever?
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 05:52:34 PM
Quote
FYI
http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_records.php?teamname=Kansas%20St.&fry=1989&thy=2012&yrk=on&cres=3&jpl=on&spl=on&sortby=Year
So, would you call 1997 Snyder's best team ever?
Maybe, they beat only 2 ranked teams in the regular season though (MU and A&M both in the 20s at the end of the year). 
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Pendergast on September 16, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
 :blah:
Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: puniraptor on September 16, 2012, 06:11:10 PM
Tcu looked like retards. Not afraid @ TCU
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: ChiComCat on September 16, 2012, 06:14:04 PM
My favorite part is that he is ksu_FAN. So simple. So beautiful.

I'm assuming you don't fully understand his name
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: the KHAN! on September 16, 2012, 06:38:44 PM
Who are the losses?  @OU, @WVU?  Maybe UT, @TCU (although I think we can get that one)

I see Tech as a gimmie.

I can't see UT as a loss. They could be fielding their best team ever and I physically could not admit to the possibility of losing to UT at this point.

TCU seems like a winnable game. OU and WVU are super scary.

I agree on Tech.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2012, 06:53:24 PM
ku 2006 and 2007 regular seasons 1 game against a Final Top 25 team is a fantasy we're never going to get to live.



Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Hurricane Cat on September 16, 2012, 07:08:34 PM
(ku obvs)

man what a tough schedule left.  I don't think we've ever had as tough a conference schedule. Finishing 5-4 would be very good.

I agree, this is a crazy tough schedule....would be pleased with 5-4, and any else is gravy.

Kansas  = win
Iowa St., Tech, OSU, TCU, Baylor = 3 wins
#6 OU, #8 WVU, #12 Texas = 1 win

5-4; imo would be  :emawkid:
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: scottwildcat on September 16, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
God damn guys, I am just not ready to  :emawkid: to an 8-4 season. Ok State at home, and Baylor on the road are easier games this year than Ok State on the road and Baylor at home were last year, TCU is not scary, we aren't losing to Tech at home, and we own texas. @WVU, @OU will probably be beat downs but c'mon guys. 9-3 should be the threshold to be happy. GTFOOH with 8-4 fist pumps
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 16, 2012, 08:32:02 PM
ku, osu, Baylor, ttech, isu, tcu are all gimmes. Not sure on wvu or ut yet. OU is always good.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on September 16, 2012, 08:33:03 PM
God damn guys, I am just not ready to  :emawkid: to an 8-4 season. Ok State at home, and Baylor on the road are easier games this year than Ok State on the road and Baylor at home were last year, TCU is not scary, we aren't losing to Tech at home, and we own texas. @WVU, @OU will probably be beat downs but c'mon guys. 9-3 should be the threshold to be happy. GTFOOH with 8-4 fist pumps
thank you.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on September 16, 2012, 08:33:35 PM
ku, osu, Baylor, ttech, isu, tcu are all gimmes. Not sure on wvu or ut yet. OU is always good.
tech isnt a gimme
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 16, 2012, 08:36:21 PM
ku, osu, Baylor, ttech, isu, tcu are all gimmes. Not sure on wvu or ut yet. OU is always good.
tech isnt a gimme

That's the one you're gonna disagree with???
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on September 16, 2012, 08:37:51 PM
ku, osu, Baylor, ttech, isu, tcu are all gimmes. Not sure on wvu or ut yet. OU is always good.
tech isnt a gimme

That's the one you're gonna disagree with???
Yes. I think they are good. better than OSU and TCU.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2012, 09:18:07 PM
ku, osu, Baylor, ttech, isu, tcu are all gimmes. Not sure on wvu or ut yet. OU is always good.
tech isnt a gimme

That's the one you're gonna disagree with???
Yes. I think they are good. better than OSU and TCU.
Welp, that's all I needed to confirm you are chingon's sock
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: AbeFroman on September 16, 2012, 09:18:48 PM
9-3 might win the conference, tbh
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 09:37:39 PM
You can't really think 60~70% of the conference is gimmes and that the Big XII is a good conference.  That is if you like to think logically.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: SabiNation on September 16, 2012, 09:45:35 PM
You can't really think 60~70% of the conference is gimmes and that the Big XII is a good conference.  That is if you like to think logically.

Good post.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: OK_Cat on September 16, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
i'm not sold on wv being a complete loss yet.  need to wait and see them play against better competition...defense might be sketchy.

@ou is a loss.  texas and west virginia are probably 65/35 in their favor.  osu/baylor/tech/isu/tcu seem like 60/40 in emaw's favor.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 16, 2012, 09:48:36 PM
Regardless of strength of schedule, anything less than 9 wins this season would be incredibly disappointing to me after what happened last season. I would want Bill fired for 7 wins.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: wes mantooth on September 16, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
Can't wait to bump this in a week after we steamroll the sooners
Title: Re: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: CHONGS on September 16, 2012, 10:36:59 PM
Can't wait to bump this in a week after we steamroll the sooners
Why? What would that be "showing me"? 
Title: Re: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: wes mantooth on September 16, 2012, 10:45:14 PM
Can't wait to bump this in a week after we steamroll the sooners
Why? What would that be "showing me"?

eff yeah omg yes!
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: scottwildcat on September 16, 2012, 10:48:12 PM
if we steamroll the sooners i'm pretty sure I wouldn't give a eff about anything in the world. would drop all of my classes, kick back and enjoy the ride or prepare for the second biggest KITN of all time when we lose to Iowa State
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: wes mantooth on September 16, 2012, 10:49:30 PM
Warm up your steamrollers!
Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: puniraptor on September 16, 2012, 10:51:20 PM
What are you going to do after you drop out of school?
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: scottwildcat on September 16, 2012, 10:55:06 PM
What are you going to do after you drop out of school?

Sit in my living room and watch ESPNU drop tears of joy on our nutsacks
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: jtksu on September 16, 2012, 11:06:00 PM
Seems like the kid has life all figured out.   :dunno:
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: scottwildcat on September 16, 2012, 11:07:41 PM
Seems like the kid has life all figured out.   :dunno:

 :gocho:
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: sys on September 16, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
when you're building for the long-term, you can't go backwards.  10-2 is the baseline of success, anything less would be very disappointing.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: michigancat on September 16, 2012, 11:11:16 PM
Lots of great "why we'll beat Texas" logic in this thread.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: sys on September 16, 2012, 11:12:14 PM
Lots of great "why we'll beat Texas" logic in this thread.

why do you think we'll beat texas, smart guy?
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: jtksu on September 16, 2012, 11:13:04 PM
We always beat UT.  OU always beats us.  Anyone who goes against these truths is outrageous!
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 17, 2012, 12:06:39 AM
0 games we should absolutely expect to lose.  1st time I've said that since 2003.  (I absolutely expected to lose in Stillwater last year)
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: jtksu on September 17, 2012, 12:10:46 AM
And we were absolutely in that game last year...
Title: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: felix rex on September 17, 2012, 12:50:35 AM
i'm not sold on wv being a complete loss yet.  need to wait and see them play against better competition...defense might be sketchy.

I find this absolutely shocking.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: OK_Cat on September 17, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
i'm not sold on wv being a complete loss yet.  need to wait and see them play against better competition...defense might be sketchy.

I find this absolutely shocking.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: deputy dawg on September 17, 2012, 04:26:25 PM
ku, osu, Baylor, ttech, isu, tcu are all gimmes. Not sure on wvu or ut yet. OU is always good.

@ Waco is a gimme?  Bold.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: jaa1025 on September 18, 2012, 12:26:32 AM
WVU looks to be a beast of a team. TX might have their best team since Vince young was there.

OU looks overrated but still very tough. I think they are anywhere between the 3rd-5th best team in the conference. I don't think we can win without A. Brown.

BU, TTech, ISU, TCU and OSU all look very good. Any could end up being a loss this year its hard to tell with the quality of competition that they have played.

KU might be a 50 point win


I'll be very happy to finish top 3 again but it will be tough. No one will go undefeated. Away at WVU really stinks this year.
 
 
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: DQ12 on September 18, 2012, 12:37:47 AM
TX might have their best team since Vince young was there.
Remember when Texas went to the national championship game a few years ago? 


Oh, you don't? 


Well Texas went to the national championship game a few years ago, just fyi.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: AbeFroman on September 18, 2012, 12:58:24 AM
TX might have their best team since Vince young was there.
Remember when Texas went to the national championship game a few years ago? 


Oh, you don't? 


Well Texas went to the national championship game a few years ago, just fyi.

Maybe he means this Texas team is better than that one  :horrorsurprise:

But that Texas team was invalid since they didn't have to play us.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: ChiComCat on September 18, 2012, 09:54:52 AM
Ash put up numbers against a crap secondary.  His throws were terrible and Ole Miss was even worse in not adjusting properly.  Ash may end up being servicable this year if he doesn't turn it over (an improvement over last) but he is by no means good.  He will be exposed yet in the Big 12
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Panjandrum on September 18, 2012, 10:03:09 AM
TX might have their best team since Vince young was there.

No.

They haven't played anyone with a pulse yet.

New Mexico and Wyoming are winless against FBS competition (and Wyoming lost to Cal-Poly), and Mississippi may go winless in the SEC.

Our wins thus far are more impressive than theirs.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Panjandrum on September 18, 2012, 10:07:31 AM
In regards to UT/KSU, remember, we get them at home in December.

Texas doesn't play well north of the Mason/Dixon in December.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: 8manpick on September 18, 2012, 10:18:12 AM
In regards to UT/KSU, remember, we get them at home in December.

Texas doesn't play well north of the Mason/Dixon in December. beat the 'Cats, ever.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 18, 2012, 03:51:25 PM
In regards to UT/KSU, remember, we get them at home in December.

Texas doesn't play well north of the Mason/Dixon in December.

Wut.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 18, 2012, 04:06:26 PM
Texas doesn't play well north of the Mason/Dixon in December.

This is wrong on at least 3 different levels.
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: ben ji on September 18, 2012, 04:24:46 PM
I believe he was making a reference to the weather, not the actual mason/dixon line. Silly doofuses
Title: Re: There's only 1 gimme left this year
Post by: ednksu on September 18, 2012, 04:27:55 PM
its just a colloquialism people