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Welp, just got 6 minutes into THE GoPowercat podcast (free content) and guess what, Fitz and DJamer Deep Throat hate #life.
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Welp, just got 6 minutes into THE GoPowercat podcast (free content) and guess what, Fitz and DJamer Deep Throat hate #life.
excellent
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Welp, just got 6 minutes into THE GoPowercat podcast (free content) and guess what, Fitz and DJamer Deep Throat hate #life.
Surprise, surprise.
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Welp, just got 6 minutes into THE GoPowercat podcast (free content) and guess what, Fitz and DJamer Deep Throat hate #life.
How can anyone hate #life?
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Welp, just got 6 minutes into THE GoPowercat podcast (free content) and guess what, Fitz and DJamer Deep Throat hate #life.
How can anyone hate #life?
How can anyone wear that much rayon? I don't know. This will just make me do the Sams dance even harder when he scores on his 1st touch again Saturday. I may video that along with me eating a 12-pak of doritos locos tacos and send it to _33 to be incorporated into the next #life video.
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What's the hate based on? That we haven't seen him throw yet?
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What's the hate based on? That we haven't seen him throw yet?
I bet DJamer Wally still thinks Bender is better because Bender's dad told him so. As for Fitz, he reads this board and cannot stand being scooped by us, so he is hoping like crazy that Sams is somehow a bust despite him clearly being the best athlete we have had since 2003, and maybe the best of all time.
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What's the hate based on? That we haven't seen him throw yet?
I suspect primarily a combo of racism and association with goEMAW, but the lack of throws was mentioned.
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What's the hate based on? That we haven't seen him throw yet?
I bet DJamer Wally still thinks Bender is better because Bender's dad told him so. As for Fitz, he reads this board and cannot stand being scooped by us, so he is hoping like crazy that Sams is somehow a bust despite him clearly being the best athlete we have had since 2003, and maybe the best of all time.
Those tards forget every year that the QB on the other team vs. the starter (in this case, Klein)in the spring game isn't the #2. OBz puts his best QBs (plural) w/the #1 offense and defense. That's not new. To be fair, unretarded Cassidy mumped that up too, but Fitz & DJDT are still convinced that those spring game rosters stand for Bender having beaten out #life*, later confirmed by Bender's dad.
*of course as we know, #life, both the stud QB and the concept, beat Bender's brains in
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what on earth
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Sometimes ugly stupid hateful people hate beautiful smart loving people just because they are beatiful smart and loving.
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....grooming him to be a running back?
what in the
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....grooming him to be a running back?
what in the
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Tucks giving #life the #TeamAngel treatment..... :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
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eff them. Embrace it. We will be right as usual.
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Guessing that Fitz and co. didn't watch any of his high school film. lol. plus it's not like any of the situations we've played him in called for throwing. That'd basically be running it up.
eff them. Embrace it. We will be right as usual.
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I hope Sams sees DJDT in the endzone when he scores next and spikes the ball right through his camera and fat face. #life
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Tucks giving #life the #TeamAngel treatment..... :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
I don't believe that their master fitz can sway them on this one. All the tucks I know including the tuckiest are doing freaking backflips over how amazing Sams is and will be. I could be wrong of course.
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DJamer Wally is awful. It would be one thing if he had sources (he doesn't). It would be another if he had an ability to break down college football (he can't). But for someone with neither of these key assets for a commentator he sure does love to pretend he has both.
"There is a reason why Daniel Sams was 3rd on the depth chart heading into spring football. It is because Tay Bender beat him out. Tay Bender was an all-around better Quarterback. From what I'd heard, he'd dedicated himself more to the playbook, he was in better shape, yadda, yadda, yadda.....I think actually Tay Bender leaving has helped Daniel Sams it has kind of given him a renewed sense of confidence to go along with the start he's already had...."
When your "analysis" pivots on "facts" that are:
1) not publicly available/unconfirmed 2) disputed by all publicly available and confirmed evidence
it becomes very difficult to take anything you "report" as "true." Your "source" claims that Tay Bender was indisputably a better QB than Sams. Your "source" claims the reasons listed for Tay Bender being ahead of Daniel Sams on the depth chart related to "dedication to the playbook," his "shape" and "yadda, yadda, yadda." I mean I guess that is better than Matt Wolter's pimping Sam Johnson, but good god.
Then his "I think" analysis statement? That Daniel Sams was suffering from some sort of crisis of confidence? :lol:
Fitz re: Sams playing alongside Sams and a possible conversion to RB-- "I don't know anything here." Thanks for the honesty Fitz.
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Sorry, but this has to be modded. Not only is this meta-topic worthy of examination, it was polluting an otherwise beautiful topic praising #life. They may sully his name, but I won't.
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I've done sports radio and because you sometimes have to spend a lot of time on one subject you get into speculation and don't have a lot of facts to go on, but jesus. There are other avenues in which you can research your facts--like rough ridin' watching film and making your own conclusions--and make it sound like you know what you're talking about instead of sounding like some guy they pulled off the streets of Aggieville (Wally).
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Sorry, but this has to be modded. Not only is this meta-topic worthy of examination, it was polluting an otherwise beautiful topic praising #life. They may sully his name, but I won't.
:thumbs:
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Why do Fitz and Wally hate him though? Jealousy? Racism?
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Sorry, but this has to be modded. Not only is this meta-topic worthy of examination, it was polluting an otherwise beautiful topic praising #life. They may sully his name, but I won't.
:thumbs:
I tried to stay within the thread parameters by mentioning my expected Saturday dance and tacofest that could go in a new _33 video, but this is fine too.
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Can someone please make sure that goEMAW's guy Daniel Sams knows what kind of filth these people are spewing about him?
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Podcast (Disagree) - D. Sams for Heisman Reply
I respectfully (completely) disagree with the assesment that Sams is not our next QB which was made on the Podcast by Fitz and Wally. Anyone who has watched him throw the ball on the sideline knows that he throws the ball better than anyone not named Michael Bishop. The guy has a rocket and throws a beautiful ball. The question could be accuracy, but I don't remember Bishop or Roberson being tremendously accurate when they arrived on campus.
I choose to believe starting Bender as #2 guy in the Spring game was nothing more than a motivational tool used by Snyder. If Tay truly thought he was the backup QB and would start next year there is no way he leaves. I think the understanding that he would never unseat Sams may have been part of the reason that Tay left.
I love Sams and think he will be on par with Bishop and Roberson. He has better wheels than Freeman so a comparison is not even fair. I also think Sams' arm is stronger than both Roberson and Freeman and is on par with Bishop. He seems to have all the physical skills to be a fantastic QB the 3 years after CK leaves.
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Re: Podcast (Disagree) - D. Sams for Heisman Reply
Not exactly disagreeing with you, but where have you seen Sam's arm strength displayed? I would have a hard time believing that he has a stronger arm that Freeman. Not many guys in the NFL have a stronger arm than Freeman.
I hope you're right though...this discussion only makes me more excited to see him throw for the first time. Perhaps this weekend we will get to see a few pass plays from our second string.
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Re: Podcast (Disagree) - D. Sams for Heisman Reply
Have not listened to the podcast and have not seen Sams throw on the sideline. I don't think that any of this is related to 'physical' tools. Playing QB in Snyder's offense requires 'mental' capabilities far more than physical. The ability to read defenses and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage are far more important than any phyical attributes. Look at the three starting QB's during Snyder's return, Grant Gregory, Coffman, and now Collin Klein. None of those three were or are considered to have 'great arms', Gregory was a decent runner, Klein a great one in many aspects. What they all had in common to varying degrees was the ability to run the offense and make sound decisions on the fly on the field.
If you recall Snyder made comments on more than one occasion that Sammy Lamur would see the field once he learned the playbook. Tuggle came in last year and everyone figured he would knock Klein out of the job in no time with his superioir 'athleticism'. Lamur recived some mop-up duty and Tuggle never saw the field as a QB and is now a LB. I think any issues with Sams are far more along these lines than anyhting to do with athletic ability. There is a reason that Snyder has stated that who is the back-up this year betwen Sams and Johnson is going to depend on the 'situation'. So far the 'situation' has been a huge lead in the 4th Q and thus running the ball and the clock is the goal. Sams fits that perfectly. If Klein gets knicked up early in a game and has to come out, heaven forbid, might well see Johnson out there who it appears Snyder has far more confidence in at this time to operate the entirity of the offense.
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Re: Podcast (Disagree) - D. Sams for Heisman Reply
I agree that Sams is definiteley our next QB and that he can throw the ball well, but you just can't compare his throwing to Josh Freeman, El, or Bishop...yet. Freeman is a tremondous NFL QB and Bishop had one of the strongest arms I have seen. Lets just wait for evaluating the throwing till he actuall starts a game, but I think we can all agree he could be one of the best running QB's we have had here
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Re: Podcast (Disagree) - D. Sams for Heisman Reply
M Bishop was a real nice guy. He was not exactly a scholar. he "my" have learned the playbook but not in any great detail. I seem to remember seeing him go right and the entire team went left (more than once). Botom line is that Snyer wants a total package. God runner good game managment and solid work ethic on and off the field. I do think he will field an inferior Q-back if he believs that Sams lacks a great deal in any one area. Sams may become a great QB but as our qb no way his touchdown/carry ratio woul be the same. He does posess a gear that the other players did not seem to posess. Like someone hit his sister and took his cookis speed.
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Re: Podcast (Disagree) - D. Sams for Heisman Reply
Not sure how you can't say that Sams is not our next QB at this point. Kid has looked electric on the field so far. Also, we had only seen Klein throw the ball a few times (could probably count them on your fingers) before he became our starting QB. And when he became our QB, who is now getting Heisman talks, all he did was run the ball.
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Well, it looks like the tucks are split on this one after Fitz and Wally chimed in. The anti-Sams, tucks appear to be racist, so that's what I'm going with.
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Can somebody explain to me how someone could be in better shape then LIFE. He is like the Freak in the the group of freak athletes :dunno:
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Can someone please make sure that goEMAW's guy Daniel Sams knows what kind of filth these people are spewing about him?
I'm listening on itunes but I'm sure there's a regular link on their site that could be tweeted to Sams with a note telling him where to start (and that while these people don't represent EMAW, just for the implication that they do, we're sorry).
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Can someone please make sure that goEMAW's guy Daniel Sams knows what kind of filth these people are spewing about him?
I disagree. He loves K-State. I don't want the adolescent board to disillusion him.
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Can someone please make sure that goEMAW's guy Daniel Sams knows what kind of filth these people are spewing about him?
I disagree. He loves K-State. I don't want the adolescent board to disillusion him.
Those guys aren't K-State. We're K-State. They're just some guys punching a clock here, for now.
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Thank god powercat gameday cut ties with these idiots.
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Thank god powercat gameday cut ties with these idiots.
Its like, they could've cut ties because he's a total liability creep store weirdo. Or because he's bad at his job. Take your pick really.
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Have not listened to the podcast and have not seen Sams throw on the sideline. I don't think that any of this is related to 'physical' tools. Playing QB in Snyder's offense requires 'mental' capabilities far more than physical. The ability to read defenses and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage are far more important than any phyical attributes. Look at the three starting QB's during Snyder's return, Grant Gregory, Coffman, and now Collin Klein. None of those three were or are considered to have 'great arms', Gregory was a decent runner, Klein a great one in many aspects. What they all had in common to varying degrees was the ability to run the offense and make sound decisions on the fly on the field.
If you recall Snyder made comments on more than one occasion that Sammy Lamur would see the field once he learned the playbook. Tuggle came in last year and everyone figured he would knock Klein out of the job in no time with his superioir 'athleticism'. Lamur recived some mop-up duty and Tuggle never saw the field as a QB and is now a LB. I think any issues with Sams are far more along these lines than anyhting to do with athletic ability. There is a reason that Snyder has stated that who is the back-up this year betwen Sams and Johnson is going to depend on the 'situation'. So far the 'situation' has been a huge lead in the 4th Q and thus running the ball and the clock is the goal. Sams fits that perfectly. If Klein gets knicked up early in a game and has to come out, heaven forbid, might well see Johnson out there who it appears Snyder has far more confidence in at this time to operate the entirity of the offense.
Lots of latent racism in this post.
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Have not listened to the podcast and have not seen Sams throw on the sideline. I don't think that any of this is related to 'physical' tools. Playing QB in Snyder's offense requires 'mental' capabilities far more than physical. The ability to read defenses and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage are far more important than any phyical attributes. Look at the three starting QB's during Snyder's return, Grant Gregory, Coffman, and now Collin Klein. None of those three were or are considered to have 'great arms', Gregory was a decent runner, Klein a great one in many aspects. What they all had in common to varying degrees was the ability to run the offense and make sound decisions on the fly on the field.
If you recall Snyder made comments on more than one occasion that Sammy Lamur would see the field once he learned the playbook. Tuggle came in last year and everyone figured he would knock Klein out of the job in no time with his superioir 'athleticism'. Lamur recived some mop-up duty and Tuggle never saw the field as a QB and is now a LB. I think any issues with Sams are far more along these lines than anyhting to do with athletic ability. There is a reason that Snyder has stated that who is the back-up this year betwen Sams and Johnson is going to depend on the 'situation'. So far the 'situation' has been a huge lead in the 4th Q and thus running the ball and the clock is the goal. Sams fits that perfectly. If Klein gets knicked up early in a game and has to come out, heaven forbid, might well see Johnson out there who it appears Snyder has far more confidence in at this time to operate the entirity of the offense.
Lots of latent racism in this post.
You guys wonder why I don't want to go into BSFS and mingle with 35K of these retardeds.
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Have not listened to the podcast and have not seen Sams throw on the sideline. I don't think that any of this is related to 'physical' tools. Playing QB in Snyder's offense requires 'mental' capabilities far more than physical. The ability to read defenses and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage are far more important than any phyical attributes. Look at the three starting QB's during Snyder's return, Grant Gregory, Coffman, and now Collin Klein. None of those three were or are considered to have 'great arms', Gregory was a decent runner, Klein a great one in many aspects. What they all had in common to varying degrees was the ability to run the offense and make sound decisions on the fly on the field.
If you recall Snyder made comments on more than one occasion that Sammy Lamur would see the field once he learned the playbook. Tuggle came in last year and everyone figured he would knock Klein out of the job in no time with his superioir 'athleticism'. Lamur recived some mop-up duty and Tuggle never saw the field as a QB and is now a LB. I think any issues with Sams are far more along these lines than anyhting to do with athletic ability. There is a reason that Snyder has stated that who is the back-up this year betwen Sams and Johnson is going to depend on the 'situation'. So far the 'situation' has been a huge lead in the 4th Q and thus running the ball and the clock is the goal. Sams fits that perfectly. If Klein gets knicked up early in a game and has to come out, heaven forbid, might well see Johnson out there who it appears Snyder has far more confidence in at this time to operate the entirity of the offense.
Lots of latent racism in this post.
You guys wonder why I don't want to go into BSFS and mingle with 35K of these retardeds.
It usually takes lots of booze. :drink:
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Have not listened to the podcast and have not seen Sams throw on the sideline. I don't think that any of this is related to 'physical' tools. Playing QB in Snyder's offense requires 'mental' capabilities far more than physical. The ability to read defenses and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage are far more important than any phyical attributes. Look at the three starting QB's during Snyder's return, Grant Gregory, Coffman, and now Collin Klein. None of those three were or are considered to have 'great arms', Gregory was a decent runner, Klein a great one in many aspects. What they all had in common to varying degrees was the ability to run the offense and make sound decisions on the fly on the field.
If you recall Snyder made comments on more than one occasion that Sammy Lamur would see the field once he learned the playbook. Tuggle came in last year and everyone figured he would knock Klein out of the job in no time with his superioir 'athleticism'. Lamur recived some mop-up duty and Tuggle never saw the field as a QB and is now a LB. I think any issues with Sams are far more along these lines than anyhting to do with athletic ability. There is a reason that Snyder has stated that who is the back-up this year betwen Sams and Johnson is going to depend on the 'situation'. So far the 'situation' has been a huge lead in the 4th Q and thus running the ball and the clock is the goal. Sams fits that perfectly. If Klein gets knicked up early in a game and has to come out, heaven forbid, might well see Johnson out there who it appears Snyder has far more confidence in at this time to operate the entirity of the offense.
Lots of latent racism in this post.
And total horseshit wrongness.
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Has anyone else been really proud of BITB? Been pumping greatness of #Life all week.
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That racist posts fits in perfectly with what some people were saying at the game last week. Sams is in there tearing crap up, the S.J. comes in and they are all. THIS is the guy that REALLY knows the offense. :barf:
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Can someone please make sure that goEMAW's guy Daniel Sams knows what kind of filth these people are spewing about him?
I disagree. He loves K-State. I don't want the adolescent board to disillusion him.
Even the adolescent board loves him for the most part, though. It's just the assholes who fleece our stupid fans for a crappy recruiting service who don't think he's good.
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That racist posts fits in perfectly with what some people were saying at the game last week. Sams is in there tearing crap up, the S.J. comes in and they are all. THIS is the guy that REALLY knows the offense. :barf:
Did you punch those racists in the face for saying that?
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That racist posts fits in perfectly with what some people were saying at the game last week. Sams is in there tearing crap up, the S.J. comes in and they are all. THIS is the guy that REALLY knows the offense. :barf:
Did you punch those racists in the face for saying that?
Me and everyone around me got a good laugh about how Snyder acted like samjohn and sams were tied for #2.
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Just wait until Fitz goes in full mudslinging mode (probably around June of '13) and pays Skeetbag to feed his Dad stories about #life.
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Thank god powercat gameday cut ties with these idiots.
Its like, they could've cut ties because he's a total liability creep store weirdo. Or because he's bad at his job. Take your pick really.
Well, both obviously
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That racist posts fits in perfectly with what some people were saying at the game last week. Sams is in there tearing crap up, the S.J. comes in and they are all. THIS is the guy that REALLY knows the offense. :barf:
Did you punch those racists in the face for saying that?
No. I was in seats that weren't mine and with a young lady. Didn't want to make a scene for the people who's season tickets I was using or appear a hot head to my companion. I mean mugged though :dunno:
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Fitz never knows anything. Never has. He speculates to the best of his limited ability. DJamer Wally is just learning this trade from the master. And most of the rest of them buy into what Fitz says because they're under the false impression that he's as ITK as he tells them he is.
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Just when I think I could not hate Fitz any more than I already do he goes and pulls this crap. :chainsaw:
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Can someone please make sure that goEMAW's guy Daniel Sams knows what kind of filth these people are spewing about him?
I disagree. He loves K-State. I don't want the adolescent board to disillusion him.
Those guys aren't K-State. We're K-State. They're just some guys punching a clock here, for now.
:thumbs: solid long term poster :eye:
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Even the respects on 810 are gushing over #Life at QB. The reason Sams isn't throwing in games is because we're up a million points when he gets in the game. LHC Bill Snyder is a gentleman and a scholar, he's not gonna run up the score (intentionally, he can't stop #Life from shredding defenses with his legs.) The powerespect crew usually have some justification for what they crap out of their mouth, but this one is indefensible. #Life for life, bitch :emawkid:
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Can someone please make sure that goEMAW's guy Daniel Sams knows what kind of filth these people are spewing about him?
I hope this leads to a moment similar to the one where Smash decides he's going to play and when he gets on the bus Mac starts to say "Son..." and Smash interrupts him and says, "I know what you are. This don't change nothin'". And then we go win state. (I HOPE, NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!!)
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I'm pretty sure they are attempting to antagonize us.
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No one trolls goEMAW like fitz trolls goEMAW.
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I still hope we have a Smash/Mac moment.
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I'm pretty sure they are attempting to antagonize us.
They have to play to their limited audience (me).
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Collin Klein has been our QB for two years and it's rough ridin' hilarious that there are still idiots that think a college quarterback needs to throw the football well.
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No one trolls goEMAW like fitz trolls goEMAW.
when it shows up on the goEMAW.com evening news I'll be impressed.
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Collin Klein has been our QB for two years and it's rough ridin' hilarious that there are still idiots that think a college quarterback needs to throw the football well.
Intangibles.
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Collin Klein has been our QB for two years and it's rough ridin' hilarious that there are still idiots that think a college quarterback needs to throw the football well.
Intangibles.
you have to either know the offense or be able to throw. those are the options.
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I think some of you don't give Collin enough credit.
He doesn't throw that bad.
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Fitz and DJamer Wally hate #life :love:
This only proves that #life is the tits!!!
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Linncat with one of the most racist posts of all time. Ashamed you call yourself a KSU fan.
I have no idea why Fitz would allude to Sams being second fiddle to Bender or not being the future QB of the Cats. It seems blatantly obvious what Sams brings to the table.
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What's the hate based on? That we haven't seen him throw yet?
I bet DJamer Wally still thinks Bender is better because Bender's dad told him so. As for Fitz, he reads this board and cannot stand being scooped by us, so he is hoping like crazy that Sams is somehow a bust despite him clearly being the best athlete we have had since 2003, and maybe the best of all time.
I don't have to read any further to confirm this.
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It's simple. He hated Jake for the same reason. They're a little more vocal about their abilities on twitter and very confident. Fitz is a grumpy, fat old man and likes to "go against the norm" to be noticed. He always says he doesn't like "dumb" athletes repping the University. He's calling him dumb. DJDT is just a rough ridin' idiot.
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I think some of you don't give Collin enough credit.
He doesn't throw that bad.
He throws the ball pretty badly and we won 10 games last season. Who give a crap. How could any K-State fan, much less someone being paid to cover K-State sports for a living, give a crap about his throwing ability after watching Bishop, Roberson, or Klein in year one of their careers.
Grooming him to be a "running back"? I mean, where do you even start with that type of dumbfuckery.
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Gopowercat would rather be wrong than agree with goEMAW. Which is right 99.9% of the time.
And they are racists. How many minorities work at GPC?
Serious question
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Gopowercat would rather be wrong than agree with goEMAW. Which is right 99.9% of the time.
And they are racists. How many minorities work at GPC?
Serious question
Are Tubbys waitresses minorities?
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I think some of you don't give Collin enough credit.
He doesn't throw that bad.
He throws the ball pretty badly and we won 10 games last season. Who give a crap. How could any K-State fan, much less someone being paid to cover K-State sports for a living, give a crap about his throwing ability after watching Bishop, Roberson, or Klein in year one of their careers.
Grooming him to be a "running back"? I mean, where do you even start with that type of dumbfuckery.
He threw bad last year. now he is a smoking hot ace fox. cept for that one dumb pick.
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I think some of you don't give Collin enough credit.
He doesn't throw that bad.
He throws the ball pretty badly and we won 10 games last season. Who give a crap. How culd any K-State fan, much less someone being paid to cover K-State sports for a living, give a crap about his throwing ability after watching Bishop, Roberson, or Klein in year one of their careers.o
Grooming him to be a "running back"? I mean, where do you even start with that type of dumbfuckery.
Boy, I don't know about that. Last game he threw the ball 11 times and completed 9. Out of that, he had over 23 yds per completion. :shakesfist:
Also all of Synder's QB's are combo. TE/FB/RB who can occasionally throw the ball with some accuracy.
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Remember Collin Klein in 2010?
Yeah, I do. I remember kicking the crap out of Texas in a game where he completed 2 passes.
My point, what dumb eff judges a redshirt freshman QB's passing ability after two games in mop up, especially considering the plethora of great quarterbacks Snyder has molded that started their careers showing very little, if any passing ability.
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Remember Collin Klein in 2010?
Yeah, I do. I remember kicking the crap out of Texas in a game where he completed 2 passes.
My point, what dumb eff judges a redshirt freshman QB's passing ability after two games in mop up, especially considering the plethora of great quarterbacks Snyder has molded that started their careers showing very little, if any passing ability.
Yeah ok, I get the excitement. I mean we are all big fans too. But let's hold off before we crown a kid that has completed ZERO passes in mop up duty. I mean, we are talking about a QB that everyone agrees was behind Tay Bender on the depth chart and probably would be behind Sam Johnson if the game were on the line. #gpctalk
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I think some of you don't give Collin enough credit.
He doesn't throw that bad.
He throws the ball pretty badly and we won 10 games last season. Who give a crap. How could any K-State fan, much less someone being paid to cover K-State sports for a living, give a crap about his throwing ability after watching Bishop, Roberson, or Klein in year one of their careers.
Grooming him to be a "running back"? I mean, where do you even start with that type of dumbfuckery.
My new favorite word
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Gopowercat would rather be wrong than agree with goEMAW. Which is right 99.9% of the time.
And they are racists. How many minorities work at GPC?
Serious question
among cats fans they are all in the minority.. fat, smelly and ugly
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Playing QB in Snyder's offense requires 'mental' capabilities far more than physical.
This has always been such a GPC bullshit talking point. I'm sure MB, Ell and even CK take ice baths after every practice/game because their brain hurts from thinking so much about where the MIKELB is.
rough ridin' tards prove every day there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense.
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Gopowercat would rather be wrong than agree with goEMAW. Which is right 99.9% of the time.
And they are racists. How many minorities work at GPC?
Serious question
Are Tubbys waitresses minorities?
Lol, not even on the dance side.
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Dear Sams, don't ever ever talk to fitz or those tards. They ask for a comment, just say "watch the tape." And then swag on.
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Dear Sams, don't ever ever talk to fitz or those tards. They ask for a comment, just say "watch the tape." And then swag on.
I need the most elite of EMAWs to help me remember Bill Walker's quote about Dustin Dow that he told reporters before he's answer their questions.
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Dear Sams, don't ever ever talk to fitz or those tards. They ask for a comment, just say "watch the tape." And then swag on.
I need the most elite of EMAWs to help me remember Bill Walker's quote about Dustin Dow that he told reporters before he's answer their questions.
it was something like, "Dow's gotta go" or something.
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Originally posted by linncat:
Well...'race' had nothing to do with any of my observations and opinions...but if that is all you can deduct from that what can I say. Snyder has clearly stated this season that the backup will depend on the 'situation', so far the 'situation' to bring another QB in has been to run the ball and clock in the 4th Q. Johnson has been praised for his understanding of the playbook and the ability to manage the game. That is just where the two of them are opening this season. That by no means that Sams will not become more versed in the entirity of the offense and managing the game. This thread started off with others stating Sams should clearly be the heir apparent because he can run well and looks good throwing the ball in warm-ups. My points were that there is far more to it than physical attributes and that Snyder has proven over the years, particularly on his return, that game management is far more important than anything else. That is all,no alterior motives
First of all I had to switch to thread view to know who you were talking to, is it that hard to quote a post? Why did you reply to my post and start with this sentence "Well...'race' had nothing to do with any of my observations and opinions...but if that is all you can deduct from that what can I say." Was this an issue reading or a guilty conscience? I didn't mention race.
As to your first couple of points, have you paid attention to LHC Bill Snyder throughout the years? He has never been forthright about his quarterbacks. He's always played games with the depth chart in the spring and early practices, he did the same thing with Klein. I haven't seen a quote of Snyder praising Johnson for his understanding of the playbook, I'll take your word for that. Tell me though, what does Johnson's understanding of the playbook have to do with Sams'? I'll answer for you, IT DOESN'T, you and everyone that shares this line of thinking made an assumption and for the life of me I can't figure out what this assumption is based on. Of course he's going to get better versed with the offense, he's a redshirt freshman. I know this is outside of the realm of possibility for many, but Colin Klein has become better versed in the offense too, he wasn't born with the instant ability to have a total grasp of all football offensive concepts.
This thread started off with others stating Sams should clearly be the heir apparent because he can run well and looks good throwing the ball in warm-ups. My points were that there is far more to it than physical attributes and that Snyder has proven over the years, particularly on his return, that game management is far more important than anything else.
I'll address this absurd talking point after saxman's quote, he already destroyed the talking point but I'm going to supplement his post
Originally posted by saxman:
So who is the quarterback going to be, an average ability guy who knows the playbook and does all the little things best? Please, we've had a few guys, usually walkons, who were raved about in this regard and who ended up not seeing the field or if they did the offense stalled. If there was ever a more overrated axiom than the qb needs to be a mental wizard I have yet to see it, at least pertaining to our offense.
Rather, give me someone who runs fast with scintillating athleticism and has a good arm and we will have our best player, our history should prove that if anything. That Collin happens to be a playbook scholar is a plus but he also has outstanding ability and instincts in the physical part of the game - that is why he is so good.
This post was edited on 9/12 11:44 PM by saxman
This post was edited on 9/12 11:45 PM by saxman
Colin Klein won the starting job because physically he was the best QB on the roster. All of the KSU starting quarterbacks under Snyder & Prince started because they were physically the best QB available. Colin Klein ran the football 317 times last year, how much of the playbook did he have to know to have 317 rushes? I'm willing to bet that Lamur knew enough of the playbook to run the ball 317 times. I am not calling you racist, I don't know you & you are far from the only person who uses this as a talking point, you just happen to be the poor soul who brought me to my breaking point. That being said, historically this has only been a talking point when a white starter at KSU has a black back up. Think I'm lying, I'll prove it.
When Carson Coffman beat out Klein in 2010 did anyone talk about Coffman winning the job because Klein didn't know the playbook? Nope, the talking point was that this kid named Lamur could be the starter but he can't figure out the the playbook. Lamur was the damn 3rd string QB.
When Coffman lost his starting gig to Grant Gregory did anyone say Coffman lost his job because he couldn't figure out the offense?
Was Dylan Meier's grasp of the offense questioned when he lost his starting job to Josh Freeman?
When we had the 2 year platoon of Alan Webb, Meier, and Alan Evridge who was the dummy who didn't know the playbook? Guess what, it was Webb.
Who on this site questioned Jeff Schwin or Marc Dunn's playbook knowledge when they couldn't beat out Ell Roberson?
Despite this, there will be some/that will say I'm wrong, call me a racist, but I'm quite confident that I nailed this one (I just popped my collar & brushed my shoulders off). And of course most will carry on this absurd charade of continually questioning the brain power of the black back up. Colin Klein is starting because he had 40 damn touchdowns. Sams will start next year because he may end up with 10 touchdowns this season as a backup quarterback. Name one game manager that Snyder named the starter over the more physically gifted player and I'll take this all back. Just one.
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Dear Sams, don't ever ever talk to fitz or those tards. They ask for a comment, just say "watch the tape." And then swag on.
I need the most elite of EMAWs to help me remember Bill Walker's quote about Dustin Dow that he told reporters before he's answer their questions.
it was something like, "Dow's gotta go" or something.
yep, "Dow gotta go"
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Fatboy and the wedding DJamer gotta go.
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Fatboy and the wedding DJamer gotta go.
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Here is a typical row in BSFS:
:opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :embarrassed: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:
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Get B.O.C. to post here if he doesn't already
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Here is a typical row in BSFS:
:opcat: :opcat: :opcat: :embarrassed: :opcat: :opcat: :opcat:
I'm ready to contribute to a goEMAW BSFS suite purchase or anything that would, ironically, segregate us from the unwashed BSFS masses.
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Get B.O.C. to post here if he doesn't already
Yeah that was a _FAN-like dismantling of a poster he just laid down there. :sdeek:
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I have it on good authority that Fitz is extremely racist.
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BOC could move up pretty quick on this board.
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yeah, i'm prettttttty sure boc is already here. and that gpc post was great. like i thought i knew where it was going to go, but it went above and beyond that.
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how did people respond to BOC's post? tia
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I have it on good authority that Fitz is extremely racist.
i don't think you need to have this on good authority to know that.
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Thank god powercat gameday cut ties with these idiots.
I quit listening to that crap head Fitz when he was pimping TULANE as a big 12 member
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how did people respond to BOC's post? tia
they haven't yet
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I didn't play football and I when I watch football I just watch where the ball goes, but why do people think Snyder has a super complex offense? Maybe it's some stuff I can't see? I mean, Klein ran it 300+ times last year. He just caught it and took off running. How hard is that?
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I have it on good authority that Fitz is extremely racist.
i don't think you need to have this on good authority to know that.
don't wanna get sued, bro.
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I didn't play football and I when I watch football I just watch where the ball goes, but why do people think Snyder has a super complex offense? Maybe it's some stuff I can't see? I mean, Klein ran it 300+ times last year. He just caught it and took off running. How hard is that?
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I didn't play football and I when I watch football I just watch where the ball goes, but why do people think Snyder has a super complex offense? Maybe it's some stuff I can't see? I mean, Klein ran it 300+ times last year. He just caught it and took off running. How hard is that?
FWIW, in just the Miami game last week, on just Klein runs we used 6 different formations, and from 3 of those formations we had 4 different backfield alignments. Those Klein runs featured 7 distinct running plays; 3 different versions of the option, 3 different versions of power/lead, and 1 version of QB draw. I didn't include QB sneaks.
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I didn't play football and I when I watch football I just watch where the ball goes, but why do people think Snyder has a super complex offense? Maybe it's some stuff I can't see? I mean, Klein ran it 300+ times last year. He just caught it and took off running. How hard is that?
FWIW, in just the Miami game last week, on just Klein runs we used 6 different formations, and from 3 of those formations we had 4 different backfield alignments. Those Klein runs featured 7 distinct running plays; 3 different versions of the option, 3 different versions of power/lead, and 1 version of QB draw. I didn't include QB sneaks.
Damnit _FAN.
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I didn't play football and I when I watch football I just watch where the ball goes, but why do people think Snyder has a super complex offense? Maybe it's some stuff I can't see? I mean, Klein ran it 300+ times last year. He just caught it and took off running. How hard is that?
FWIW, in just the Miami game last week, on just Klein runs we used 6 different formations, and from 3 of those formations we had 4 different backfield alignments. Those Klein runs featured 7 distinct running plays; 3 different versions of the option, 3 different versions of power/lead, and 1 version of QB draw. I didn't include QB sneaks.
Damnit _FAN.
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I was 100% confident that I had a great talking point there. Football is so stupid sometimes.
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I was 100% confident that I had a great talking point there. Football is so stupid sometimes.
Well you are correct in this; football coaches are paranoid people who constantly over-analyze and often make things more complex/harder than they need to be.
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I didn't play football and I when I watch football I just watch where the ball goes, but why do people think Snyder has a super complex offense? Maybe it's some stuff I can't see? I mean, Klein ran it 300+ times last year. He just caught it and took off running. How hard is that?
FWIW, in just the Miami game last week, on just Klein runs we used 6 different formations, and from 3 of those formations we had 4 different backfield alignments. Those Klein runs featured 7 distinct running plays; 3 different versions of the option, 3 different versions of power/lead, and 1 version of QB draw. I didn't include QB sneaks.
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I was 100% confident that I had a great talking point there. Football is so stupid sometimes.
Well you are correct in this; football coaches are paranoid people who constantly over-analyze and often make things more complex/harder than they need to be.
OT: _FAN, goEMAW kid Cole's freshman football coach gave me a copy of the playbook to help Cole get the plays down. May need you to break this thing down for me. If it matters, the kid is half-white, half-Hispanic, so GPC should have some faith in his ability to learn it.
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FTR, Mexicans are great at watching someone do something, and then doing it exactly as they did it. Eventually they will even do it better than how they were taught. So I have high hopes for this kid.
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Is there anything on the planet that gopowercat hates more than being wrong and goEMAW being right. I SAY NO!
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Has anyone responded to that one guy's post yet?
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Does anyone else like how Fitz is calling LHCBS a liar. I mean the LHCBS did say that was Sams' best trait.
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Does anyone else like how Fitz is calling LHCBS a liar. I mean the LHCBS did say that was Sams' best trait.
Fitz is just upset about cone of silence.
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Does anyone else like how Fitz is calling LHCBS a liar. I mean the LHCBS did say that was Sams' best trait.
Did he give him a copy of pinocchio after he said this?
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When did the opinions of giant fat people start mattering?
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It's the all-too-common pickle that we find ourselves in these days, guys.
Do we see our future QB as the guy who scores TD's on half his carries or do we back the guy who quit the team and went to work at Briggs, or the guy who has taken 5 snaps and whose only drive resulted in a punt?
It's a real pickle.
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At the same time it could simply be a ploy to further motivate this team and perpetuate the "under dog" mentality. Or... they could just be D-Bags.