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two main differences from a year ago and both surround the play of the line:
1) KSU is far more athletic up front on offense than a year ago. We had zero issues going without a TE in a number of passing situations against Miami. Not only is the difference in capabilities visible but it is demonstrated by the coaches' confidence in formations. OU is NOT as imposing in terms of the pass rush this year. Alexander and Ronnell Lewis were very good collegiate pass rushers and they don't have anybody, at least prepared to play, at their level. This match up last year was a monstrous edge for OU last year and certainly impacted the game significantly.
2) OU has surrendered 6 sacks in the first two games. Last year they gave up about 8 or 9, total. They lost their stud LT, starting center, and a guard who, if he wasn't a starter, saw significant minutes. While KSU doesn't have a bunch of pass rushers I think we have demonstrated from the Miami game that we have some capabilities in that area...at least a little more than a year ago.
This is more like 2a but I will keep harping on this point. OU, even with the veteran line LAST YEAR, has not been the same since Broyles got hurt last year. Broyles was that security blanket with whom Landry had a lot of chemistry. They have struggled since and it continued into their first game this year. They were not the same offense that put 58 points on the board last year AFTER he got hurt.
OU still has better talent, will be playing at home, has more skill...but there are some match ups in this game which are becoming more clear that would lend itself to a very competitive game.
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of course, the other issue is we're not as good at corner and not as experienced at safety. If they buy Landry any kind of time and he establishes some chemistry with his receivers we'll be in trouble. I just don't know if their passing offense will be consistent enough this year. I think they are vastly overrated where they are ranked at the moment. Definitely a top 20 team and capable of blistering some teams but I don't see them winning many games THIS year that handily in the conference.
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pump that sunsh, hatter, pump that sunsh
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Assuming we win against NT easily, this will be an intriguing spread.
I'd guess OU -7
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OU still has better talent, will be playing at home, has more skill
:cheers:
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I don't like that they have 2 weeks to prepare for their superbowl.
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I don't like that they have 2 weeks to prepare for their superbowl.
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I don't like that they have 2 weeks to prepare for their superbowl.
Are you serious?
That is a blessing in disguise my friend.
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I don't like that they have 2 weeks to prepare for their superbowl.
Are you serious?
That is a blessing in disguise my friend.
I'm listening....
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I don't like that they have 2 weeks to prepare for their superbowl.
Are you serious?
That is a blessing in disguise my friend.
I'm listening....
They need more games to get their crap figured out. We get three games to get our crap figured out.
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
#2 Texas Tech came in there in 2008, #12 OSU came in there in 2009. So probably since 2009 and more likely 2008.
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
Prob since Bedlam '09
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
#2 Texas Tech came in there in 2008, #12 OSU came in there in 2009. So probably since 2009 and more likely 2008.
Rankings aside, we are way better than those teams.
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
#2 Texas Tech came in there in 2008, #12 OSU came in there in 2009. So probably since 2009 and more likely 2008.
Rankings aside, we are way better than those teams.
I'm not sure about '08 Tech. That was a very, very good team.
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
#2 Texas Tech came in there in 2008, #12 OSU came in there in 2009. So probably since 2009 and more likely 2008.
Rankings aside, we are way better than those teams.
I'm not sure about '08 Tech. That was a very, very good team.
Offensively Tech by a mile, but I don't remember Tech having any sort of imposing defense. They won 11 games by scoring 42 points in the first half.
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
#2 Texas Tech came in there in 2008, #12 OSU came in there in 2009. So probably since 2009 and more likely 2008.
Rankings aside, we are way better than those teams.
I'm not sure about '08 Tech. That was a very, very good team.
Offensively Tech by a mile, but I don't remember Tech having any sort of imposing defense. They won 11 games by scoring 42 points in the first half.
But neither of those were even games were they? I remember Tech got massacred and OSU got shut out one year, not sure if it was '09.
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
#2 Texas Tech came in there in 2008, #12 OSU came in there in 2009. So probably since 2009 and more likely 2008.
Rankings aside, we are way better than those teams.
I'm not sure about '08 Tech. That was a very, very good team.
Offensively Tech by a mile, but I don't remember Tech having any sort of imposing defense. They won 11 games by scoring 42 points in the first half.
But neither of those were even games were they? I remember Tech got massacred and OSU got shut out one year, not sure if it was '09.
OU had national title contending teams those years, though. They do not look nearly as good this year.
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Are we the best team to march into Norman in like a long time? Or not?
#2 Texas Tech came in there in 2008, #12 OSU came in there in 2009. So probably since 2009 and more likely 2008.
Rankings aside, we are way better than those teams.
I'm not sure about '08 Tech. That was a very, very good team.
Offensively Tech by a mile, but I don't remember Tech having any sort of imposing defense. They won 11 games by scoring 42 points in the first half.
But neither of those were even games were they? I remember Tech got massacred and OSU got shut out one year, not sure if it was '09.
OU had national title contending teams those years, though. They do not look nearly as good this year.
True. I should rephrase:
Given the implications and observations from the first two games...Is this the best match up in Norman in a long time? (other than Tech last year, lol doesn't count)
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with regards to the thread title:
...dobber is going to be there! (Can't frickin' wait!)
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we're going to get rolled again :cry:
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we're going to get rolled again :cry:
I don't think we are.
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Cats win....BIG
OU is pillowy soft
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we're going to get rolled again :cry:
jfc, you're such a rough ridin' homer.
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We'll be top 6 after this game.
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we're going to get rolled again :cry:
I don't think we are.
it just has that kind of feeling, doesn't it?
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Cats win....BIG
OU is pillowy soft
I don't think they are soft on defense but they sure are comfy soft on offense. And Landry gets rattled way too easily.
I think the best example of a difference in line play from one year to the next would be the result of the 2003 and 2004 games between OU and KSU.
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LHCBS is using double reverse psychology against former acolyte Bob Stoops--as was pointed out in a different thread, the offense showed a lot of formations for the Miami game, which is the opposite of what one would expect.
For further mindfurking of OU, I think he should make the entire coaching staff wear visors during the game.
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Stoops pulls one out of Snyder's book and starts Blake Bell vs. KSU...
:sdeek:
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Snyder's counter...
#LIFE
:dance:
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Stoops pulls one out of Snyder's book and starts Blake Bell vs. KSU...
:sdeek:
Bill has an entire back up game plan built for this very thing.
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We would eat Bell for rough ridin' lunch. We could start a restaurant in celebration of this achievement. I'm thinking a Mexican place.
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I agree. Bell sucks ass, and we would beat OU worse than Miami if they started him. Jones scares me.
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Jones doesn't scare me. Our dbacks scare me.
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Cats win....BIG
OU is pillowy soft
:thumbs:
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Jones doesn't scare me. Our dbacks scare me.
same difference though, really.
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Jones doesn't scare me. Our dbacks scare me.
same difference though, really.
No, it's more irritating because they'll talk about how great jones is on tv, but really it'll just be because our d backs suck. He just isn't that good.
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This feeling is exactly how I felt going into Lawrence the past 5 years in basketball: I really, really, want to believe we will win. I just can't.
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I am with ok cat, we get rolled.
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Let me predict the future for you fools. KSU roll's OU like a gym sock - we win out the season - finish regular season ranked #2 and headed to the NC against an over rated USC. Dec 21 we all die from a volcanic eruption after a magnetic polar shift from north to south. Mother of all KITN's.
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Let me predict the future for you fools. KSU roll's OU like a gym sock - we win out the season - finish regular season ranked #2 and headed to the NC against an over rated USC. Dec 21 we all die from a volcanic eruption after a magnetic polar shift from north to south. Mother of all KITN's.
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If that happens.
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I can't see us winning this. I usually go with the expect the worst hope for the best routine.
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Let me predict the future for you fools. KSU roll's OU like a gym sock - we win out the season - finish regular season ranked #2 and headed to the NC against an over rated USC. Dec 21 we all die from a volcanic eruption after a magnetic polar shift from north to south. Mother of all KITN's.
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the only thing wrong with that is you wont be able to bump your prediction in a year or two.
I would rather die from a volcanic eruption after a magnetic polar shift from north to south than lose after getting all the way to the NC
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I actually feel bad for the Sooners this year. Their QB probably wouldn't even make our JV team.
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This feeling is exactly how I felt going into Lawrence the past 5 years in basketball: I really, really, want to believe we will win. I just can't.
I am getting my hopes up Jakesie. Next Saturday at about 10 PM CST could get really dark for CF3
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I don't like that they have 2 weeks to prepare for their superbowl.
I don't like that they have the best possible backup QB to run their scout team during those two weeks and prepare their defense for Klein
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Face it, Stoops owns Snyder.
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I don't like that they have 2 weeks to prepare for their superbowl.
I don't like that they have the best possible backup QB to run their scout team during those two weeks and prepare their defense for Klein
They have absolutely nobody to prepare them for #life, though.
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Face it, Stoops owns Snyder.
yeah
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This feeling is exactly how I felt going into Lawrence the past 5 years in basketball: I really, really, want to believe we will win. I just can't.
This is completely understandable. I haven't watched enough of OU to have a good feel for this game. Of course, I didn't think we'd get destroyed like we did last year either.
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Every single person on the board believes we are going to beat OU, few can bring themselves to say it out loud.
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they are really good at passing, we are really bad at stopping the pass. where does that leave us?
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they are really good at passing, we are really bad at stopping the pass. where does that leave us?
Run your formulas and crap that you used for the Miami game on OU
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they are really good at passing, we are really bad at stopping the pass. where does that leave us?
I think you could say our pass defense is average right now and be fair, but I wouldn't say "really bad" is accurate.
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Give emaw two Malone INT's and no missed Cantele FG's and I think we have a pretty decent chance to win via ball control.
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What if we blow them out in Norman? :horrorsurprise:
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What if we blow them out in Norman? :horrorsurprise:
Stand Up volume II
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they are really good at passing, we are really bad at stopping the pass. where does that leave us?
I think you could say our pass defense is average right now and be fair, but I wouldn't say "really bad" is accurate.
Ok, let me try again. Our secondary is vulnerable to being exploited by OU's proficient passing attack.
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Give emaw two Malone INT's and no missed Cantele FG's and I think we have a pretty decent chance to win via ball control.
How many INT's did Malone have last year?
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they are really good at passing, we are really bad at stopping the pass. where does that leave us?
I think you could say our pass defense is average right now and be fair, but I wouldn't say "really bad" is accurate.
Ok, let me try again. Our secondary is vulnerable to being exploited by OU's proficient passing attack.
What if we get ahead early? Then we start to get pressure on Landry, and we all know Landry loves pressure, thereby rendering suspect secondary irrelevant?
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they are really good at passing, we are really bad at stopping the pass. where does that leave us?
I think you could say our pass defense is average right now and be fair, but I wouldn't say "really bad" is accurate.
Ok, let me try again. Our secondary is vulnerable to being exploited by OU's proficient passing attack.
Our best defense against OU will be time of possession, we need long scoring drives that put pressure on their offense to score and catch up. We do that we have a good shot.
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Give emaw two Malone INT's and no missed Cantele FG's and I think we have a pretty decent chance to win via ball control.
How many INT's did Malone have last year?
YEAH WELL MAYBE IT'LL BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME KK :angry:
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He will Scheme.
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What if we blow them out in Norman? :horrorsurprise:
It'll be almost as good as NU 2003, except Jones is a bigger pussy than Lord and he'll be afraid to talk crap at the coin flip.
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I'm really thinking we beat OU this year, going away. Like 20 pts. Snyder is going to scheme the living crap out of Stoops.
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Face it, Stoops owns Snyder.
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Stoops does own Bill. That is worrisome.
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Hey, nay-saying dumbasses, we're going to win. :comeatme:
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Hey, nay-saying dumbasses, we're going to win. :comeatme:
I already said we were. BIG
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Sorry, you guys are wrong.
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Our pass D has looked average, because SchemeDoctor wants Bob Poops to think it's average. dumbasses we have Nigel Malone all american, and chapman. he had a pick 6 last year. we're stacked in the secondary.
Cats 41-28
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I will be very excited if we win.
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The team has bought in...so should we.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nlTMHUcvtI&list=PL8D16212A5B462E09&index=17&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nlTMHUcvtI&list=PL8D16212A5B462E09&index=17&feature=plpp_video)
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I live in OKC, huge cat fan though. You guys should hear the sports talk radio down here. Every once in a while you will get a cat caller firing up the ou fans and the ou fans will call for the next hour... Bitching and moaning how much KSU sucks and how our record all time is lopsided. Jim Traber always is like "guys LHC Bill Snyder can coach and that team is severly underrated, so we better watch out and hope we dont blow this team off."
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I'm going to ask the necessary question: Will an OU fan try to blow himself up at this years game?
BTW, #teamwinbigagainstOU
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No more Ryan Broyles :emawkid:
Still going to lose though.
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I'm going to ask the necessary question: Will an OU fan try to blow himself up at this years game?
BTW, #teamwinbigagainstOU
good post, d-dawg, haven't thought about that.
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I'm going to ask the necessary question: Will an OU fan try to blow himself up at this years game?
BTW, #teamwinbigagainstOU
good post, d-dawg, haven't thought about that.
Do not sit on any benches withwhite guys in hoodies down here :opcat:
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No more Ryan Broyles :emawkid:
Still going to lose though.
mocat does not believe in goal #13...therefore, he will not be successful
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:katpak:
No more Ryan Broyles :emawkid:
Still going to lose though.
mocat does not believe in goal #13...therefore, he will not be successful
If mocat doesn't succeed as an individual, can WE succeed as a team?
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There are disturbing trends among the posters with postal abbreviations of states that border kansas + cat.
Maybe their opinions are false. Or is that possible?
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Let us not turn on one another.
Does OU have as many big athletic asses as the Wild Wildcats? Big athletic butts will be the deciding factor. THIS CAN NOT BE OVERSTATED!
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pillowy soft
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Let us not turn on one another.
Does OU have as many big athletic asses as the Wild Wildcats? Big athletic butts will be the deciding factor. THIS CAN NOT BE OVERSTATED!
Stanbot confirms that LHCBS uses this as a key criteria. CONFIRMS
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You know what. We are going to win.
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Likely scenario:
Undefeated regular season and the KITN comes because the season ends when the Mayan calendar expires in December before the title game.
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I live in OKC, huge cat fan though. You guys should hear the sports talk radio down here. Every once in a while you will get a cat caller firing up the ou fans and the ou fans will call for the next hour... Bitching and moaning how much KSU sucks and how our record all time is lopsided. Jim Traber always is like "guys LHC LHC Bill Snyder can coach and that team is severly underrated, so we better watch out and hope we dont blow this team off."
This is good insidery stuff. Welcome!
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I live in OKC, huge cat fan though. You guys should hear the sports talk radio down here. Every once in a while you will get a cat caller firing up the ou fans and the ou fans will call for the next hour... Bitching and moaning how much KSU sucks and how our record all time is lopsided. Jim Traber always is like "guys LHC LHC Bill Snyder can coach and that team is severly underrated, so we better watch out and hope we dont blow this team off."
This is good insidery stuff. Welcome!
I live pretty close to Norman so I will keep my ear out. I know that their starting DT's will still be out for the game. So as you guys put it middle of D line should be real pillowy soft.
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Likely scenario:
Undefeated regular season and the KITN comes because the season ends when the Mayan calendar expires in December before the title game.
:dubious:
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Is it irrational to be more confident in winning the WVU game than the OU game?
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Every year OU is the game I feel like we could get blown out of. This year I'm not feeling it at all. Snydercats roll! :dance:
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I usually think we will get rolled by OU (and we usually do) but after watching them struggle against UTEP's defense.... I'm not sure they could beat Manhattan high decisively...
The again, we are the wild wildcats
:dubious:
OU -17
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Is it irrational to be more confident in winning the WVU game than the OU game?
No, OU is much better than WV.
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I see wvu as a lot like Baylor last year.
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Guy that sold me a hat on ebay from Norman, a self-proclaimed OU alum, said that OU sucks this year, and that Landry Jones is overrated. He picks the Qhatz to win by 7. True story.
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I'm going to ask the necessary question: Will an OU fan try to blow himself up at this years game?
BTW, #teamwinbigagainstOU
good post, d-dawg, haven't thought about that.
#never4get #oujorts
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we are going to win guys. :emawkid:
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I see wvu as a lot like Baylor last year.
Wow, nailed it!
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I see wvu as a lot like Baylor last year.
Wow, nailed it!
I think they are a lot like Baylor this year.
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I see wvu as a lot like Baylor last year.
Wow, nailed it!
I think they are a lot like Baylor this year.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgifsoup.com%2Fwebroot%2Fanimatedgifs1%2F3191572_o.gif&hash=cf13ded0e95cd3297c19e0d19e56ceb6ce9ddbc9)
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We are going to get rolled.
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we are going to have a really hard time moving the ball and stopping the ball from being moved
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We are going to keep their receivers in front of us and wait for Landry to try to force the ball deep. On offense, we will go back to running the ball 80% of the time and we will be much more efficient. I think this is going to be a great game.
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this unt game is all part of the scheme. no worries here :cool:
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this unt game is all part of the scheme. no worries here :cool:
Optimus: Coach, I've been throwing a lot tonight.
Snyds: :smile: :turnsandwalksaway:
:dance:
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I wasn't sold on the team at all after that Miami performance, but they really won me over tonight! I don't see a scenario where OU could beat us.
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We are going to get rolled.
this. we won't keep it within 3 scores. as with any trip to norman, if no one blows themselvesup outside the stadium and we have our punter on the field during punts, I will consider it a moral victory.
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What is Stoops at home . . . 70 and 7 our something like that?
Nah, our pillow soft defense isn't going to stop them. We might make it interesting for awhile.
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77-3 (.962)
:sdeek:
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77-3 (.962)
:sdeek:
OSU - '01
TCU - '05
TT - '11
incredible. what dumbass started this thread?
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you guys are being very divisive. we've talked about this.
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lol, forgot about that TT game.
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Not saying stats are everything, but do yourself a favor and fire up your google machine. Next, look up OU's schedule thus far. Then, do a quick comparo of stats for OU and our very own Cats.
I learned a few things very quickly: they've played no one decent, so their stats should be inflated...they're not. Kenny Stills is their only receiver with any sort of decent numbers, but still not earth shattering. Their running game numbers don't scare me either.
Not saying the cats will roll in Norman, but the numbers so far give me hope. This is the first time in a while playing them that I'm not chalking the game up as an automatic L.
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We are going to get rolled.
This
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i think it should be a good game - closer than last year. :thumbs:
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I'd like to see a Hatter update after North Texas............that "athletic" OL didn't look very good against Phil Steele's 110 ranked team.
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Didn't read thread. Will there be haikus?
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I will be sad when Stills goes to town in Nigel. Because I like Nigel and want only good things for him. :(
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Stills is a very poor man's Broyles. That said, a poor man's Broyles is still pretty decent.
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I am already sad imagining ESPNers lolling about how K-State was exposed and high-fiving about the 8-win talking point and then ignoring us for ev er.
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im just thinking about the kinds of songs we are going to see in the fan made highlight vids of us kicking their assholes
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77-3 (.962)
:sdeek:
OSU - '01
TCU - '05
TT - '11
incredible. what dumbass started this thread?
Soooooo you're saying it CAN be done
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77-3 (.962)
:sdeek:
OSU - '01
TCU - '05
TT - '11
incredible. what dumbass started this thread?
Soooooo your saying it WILL be done
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JFC guys, your does not equal you're. I expect better from this board of elites.
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JFC guys, your does not equal you're. I expect better from this board of elites.
My grammar is elite.
Maybe I was referring to someone's saying and forgot a comma?!?!?!?!
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Seems like this is our best team since 2003. Seems like this is OUs worst team since pre-Bradford(Paul Thompson? ). Hopefully that equals victory.
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That Rhett Bomar guy was pretty good
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Seems like this is our best team since 2003. Seems like this is OUs worst team since pre-Bradford(Paul Thompson? ). Hopefully that equals victory.
They were 7-5 in the regular season in 2009.
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The line opened at OU -17, has moved to ~14. Means people are taking the cats! They think we have a real shot to get it within 2 TDs. :emawkid:
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Seems like this is our best team since 2003. Seems like this is OUs worst team since pre-Bradford(Paul Thompson? ). Hopefully that equals victory.
They were 7-5 in the regular season in 2009.
Was that when BYU crippled Sam? Seems like we almost beat them that year with Greg Gregory. Would have beat them with CK and this D. Will take.
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it's shocking to me that people think this team is going to walk into norman and win. shocking.
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it's shocking to me that people think this team is going to walk into norman and win. shocking.
What's shocking to me is that your menstrual cycle could last this long.
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it's shocking to me that people think this team is going to walk into norman and win. shocking.
:dunno: a much worse tech team did it last year
look i know you like being "that guy" on OU and OSU games, but are you REALLY surprised a website with a football board called "Kstate cat football: There is Nothing Better on the Earth" has people thinking we can win this game?
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it's shocking to me that people think this team is going to walk into norman and win. shocking.
:dunno: a much worse tech team did it last year
look i know you like being "that guy" on OU and OSU games, but are you REALLY surprised a website with a football board called "Kstate cat football: There is Nothing Better on the Earth" has people thinking we can win this game?
it's perfectly fine to cheer your ass off for your team but knowing that they will lose. a much worse tech team did it because it was a much worse tech team, just like a much worse north texas team knocked on our door for 3 quarters.
i don't think we gained enough and/or ou lost enough from last year to make up that much of a point differential AND play in norman as opposed to manhattan.
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it's shocking to me that people think this team is going to walk into norman and win. shocking.
:dunno: a much worse tech team did it last year
look i know you like being "that guy" on OU and OSU games, but are you REALLY surprised a website with a football board called "Kstate cat football: There is Nothing Better on the Earth" has people thinking we can win this game?
it's perfectly fine to cheer your ass off for your team but knowing that they will lose. a much worse tech team did it because it was a much worse tech team, just like a much worse north texas team knocked on our door for 3 quarters.
i don't think we gained enough and/or ou lost enough from last year to make up that much of a point differential AND play in norman as opposed to manhattan.
so it is still so SHOCKING to you? so very SHOCKING?
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hey, it's cool that you want to be a dick.
yes, it is shocking to me that so many people think that k-state will defeat a team on the road that destroyed them last year at home, given that both teams didn't lose or gain much in terms of players.
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OU lost a lot on the defensive line, so it really comes down to whether or not we can run the football. If we can run the clock like North Texas did against us, the score will be close at halftime, and we can win with a few breaks. If we cannot run, barring some injury to Klein and Sams being a super-stud throwing the football, we will lose, and it will get very ugly.
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77-3 (.962)
eff yes it would be shocking.
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we're going to win.
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77-3 (.962)
eff yes it would be shocking.
jfc can no one read anymore?
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We're going to get our crap pushed in by both stoops wearing their dumbass visors. At least I will be in Chicago.
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We're going to get our crap pushed in by both stoops wearing their dumbass visors. At least I will be in Chicago.
Find the pak head banner.
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We have a 0% chance of winning this. Quit being stupid.
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Is anybody else just a little bit hopeful that maybe it was actually Venzy owning us all these years?
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I think our chances are 3.8%
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77-3 (.962)
eff yes it would be shocking.
jfc can no one read anymore?
It's shocking that people could see that stat (along with the recruiting disparity between both schools) and legitimately think we have a chance to win, regardless if the board was named "retards that like purple and football".
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This is probably our best shot to beat OU in a while.
I don't think we'll win, but I'm prepared for a $200-$300 weekend in Norman anyway.
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We are a much better team than most of the teams Stoops has beaten at home, so going by his .962 winning percentage, I would put our chances at about 25%.
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77-3 (.962)
eff yes it would be shocking.
jfc can no one read anymore?
It's shocking that people could see that stat (along with the recruiting disparity between both schools) and legitimately think we have a chance to win, regardless if the board was named "retards that like purple and football".
I guess they can't.
Keep on 'zacking though.
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We're going to win. It doesn't much matter what happened last year or 6 years ago or whatever. OU is nothing special this year.
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We're going to win. It doesn't much matter what happened last year or 6 years ago or whatever. OU is nothing special this year.
Maybe. It's hard to tell how good OU really is without being able to gauge them against a legitimate team, though. We would all be thinking OU was about to beat us by 50 if we had only seen the Cats play Missouri State and North Texas.
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Oklahoma's home record is very impressive, but it is a bit skewed. Their biggest game (Texas) is always at a neutral site. The Horns are the one team in the Big 12 that is on par with OU when it comes to recruiting and Stoops' home record would have a few more losses if they had to host UT in years where they were much better than OU (2005 for example). Of course your home record is going to look a little better when the only team you regularly play who is capable of matching your roster star-for-star doesn't visit Norman.
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it's shocking to me that people think this team is going to walk into norman and win. shocking.
:dunno: a much worse tech team did it last year
look i know you like being "that guy" on OU and OSU games, but are you REALLY surprised a website with a football board called "Kstate cat football: There is Nothing Better on the Earth" has people thinking we can win this game?
it's perfectly fine to cheer your ass off for your team but knowing that they will lose. a much worse tech team did it because it was a much worse tech team, just like a much worse north texas team knocked on our door for 3 quarters.
i don't think we gained enough and/or ou lost enough from last year to make up that much of a point differential AND play in norman as opposed to manhattan.
Wait, so the game is gonna start with the scoreboard saying OU - 52 KSU -17 (or whatever that abortion of a final score ended up being last year)? Well eff, in that case, yea we are prolly effed.
Of course, I live in reality where LAST YEAR means exactly rough ridin' nothing in sports...especially college fb when 25%or more of the rosters change year over year.
This is the same Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) argument the media is making against the qatz...be better than that
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it's shocking to me that people think this team is going to walk into norman and win. shocking.
:dunno: a much worse tech team did it last year
look i know you like being "that guy" on OU and OSU games, but are you REALLY surprised a website with a football board called "Kstate cat football: There is Nothing Better on the Earth" has people thinking we can win this game?
it's perfectly fine to cheer your ass off for your team but knowing that they will lose. a much worse tech team did it because it was a much worse tech team, just like a much worse north texas team knocked on our door for 3 quarters.
i don't think we gained enough and/or ou lost enough from last year to make up that much of a point differential AND play in norman as opposed to manhattan.
Wait, so the game is gonna start with the scoreboard saying OU - 52 KSU -17 (or whatever that abortion of a final score ended up being last year)? Well eff, in that case, yea we are prolly effed.
Of course, I live in reality where LAST YEAR means exactly rough ridin' nothing in sports...especially college fb when 25%or more of the rosters change year over year.
This is the same Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) argument the media is making against the qatz...be better than that
Last year means something. It means last year they kicked our ass, and many of those same players are also going to be in this years game...why expect anything different.
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Good to see some others on #teamcatswininnorman
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its not about whether the cats can or will win (guess what even if we lose that doesn't prove we couldn't have won), its about the notion that its shocking a fan website isn't shoegazing about "oh man we have no chance of winning at all". of course people on here think we can win. does it make them "purple-loving retards"? probably to a whole lot of people, but it's not like this is is shocking behavior or anything.
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oh and to head off the "you won't let anyone say anything negative you powerespect" talking point, of course you should and can post all the negative stuff you want. just don't act like a delicate flower when after the 100th time of trying to get a response you get one that doesn't pat you on the back and tell you how brave you are for being edgy and crap.
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"Tries too hard to be edgy."
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I think we can win. Now, do I think we will win? Yep.
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oh and to head off the "you won't let anyone say anything negative you powerespect" talking point, of course you should and can post all the negative stuff you want. just don't act like a delicate flower when after the 100th time of trying to get a response you get one that doesn't pat you on the back and tell you how brave you are for being edgy and crap.
damn, chings just took goEMAW down a peg
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The team has bought in...so should we.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nlTMHUcvtI&list=PL8D16212A5B462E09&index=17&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nlTMHUcvtI&list=PL8D16212A5B462E09&index=17&feature=plpp_video)
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I think we can win. Now, do I think we will win? Yep.
Thanks. You just made me a whole lot more confident.
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I just won't torture myself by thinking that we're going to win all week and then watch us lose. Won't do it.
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I think they scared. I think they fans scared and they players scared. Cats by 10.
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-weighing-kansas-states-chances-against-the-sooners/article/3710507?custom_click=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-weighing-kansas-states-chances-against-the-sooners/article/3710507?custom_click=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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I think they scared. I think they fans scared and they players scared. Cats by 10.
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-weighing-kansas-states-chances-against-the-sooners/article/3710507?custom_click=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-weighing-kansas-states-chances-against-the-sooners/article/3710507?custom_click=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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If CK keeps completing 72% of his passes, we aint losing many games this year.
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Reasons for hope
1. We took OSU down to the wire on the road (an OSU team that DESTROYED OU). Transitive property doesn't always work, but neither does comparing results from the previous year.
2. The OU game was our worst game last year, and it wasn't just because of OU. We played very poorly.
3. OU doesn't have Broyles. OU post Broyles last year was 2-2
4. OU was preseason #1 last year, and finished practically tied with us in the polls. Not invincible.
5. We are a better, more confident team this year than we were last year.
6. OU hasn't looked all that great so far.
Reasons for despair:
1. OU is more talented
2. OU is at home and doesn't lose at home
I'm not sure how this game will go, but to count K-State out would be unwise.
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We have a 0% chance of winning this. Quit being stupid.
That is not true
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I hope we stomp on the fifty or start a fight pre game or something.
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K-State has 1% chance to win...and they will. :gocho:
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I have no reason to believe we can't go to Norman and compete. This notion that we'll get blown out is not crazy, but IMO its unlikely. Even in last year's game we had all the momentum midway through the 2nd quarter with the lead, then we drove and missed a FG, and finally finished the half with a fumble allowing OU to kick a FG to go up 23-17 at half time. Granted, the 2nd half we absolutely didn't show up, but that was the anomaly half of the season. Against that vaunted OU defense in the first half K-State averaged 6.7 yards per play last year. It was only when we got behind by multiple scores and were forced to pass that OU poured it on.
This year I don't see OU being able to abuse our defense as easily as it did last year, though I have no doubt OU will gain plenty of yards. I also see us being much more able to stay in the game with our passing game, last year when we played OU we still had a long ways to go in our passing game.
I still firmly believe in the notion of this thread that the dynamic in this game is different this year and I anticipate a very competitive game in Norman.
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I see the cats winning, and I dont think it will be that close. OU has played garbage teams all season and has looked like crap. Their O-Line has lost something like 3 starters already and Landry went from a top10 draft pick to an average QB last year when Broyles went down
Katz- 38
OU- 28
OU gets a garbage touchdown late to make it respectable.
C Klein- 14-18 passing 2TD's, 21 att 103 yds rushing 2TD's
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When is the money line number going to be available? #fatty4ksu is going to have a pretty hefty cash injection at the end of the season thanks to friend of goEMAW beyondthebets.com.
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HFBIQ needed. Is Klein's release really as slow as it looks on TV, or is it just unorthodox? If it is as slow as it looks, will his completion rate be much lower than 72% against much faster secondaries?
To me, it looks like he does well when his receivers are wide open, but he hasn't shown an ability to fit the ball into tight spaces. Admittedly, I don't watch game film like a lot of self-proclaimed experts on here (i.e. everybody but KSU_fan).
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HFBIQ needed. Is Klein's release really as slow as it looks on TV, or is it just unorthodox? If it is as slow as it looks, will his completion rate be much lower than 72% against much faster secondaries?
To me, it looks like he does well when his receivers are wide open, but he hasn't shown an ability to fit the ball into tight spaces. Admittedly, I don't watch game film like a lot of self-proclaimed experts on here (i.e. everybody but KSU_fan).
This is a fair critique, and probably accurate. I don't anticipate Klein being 70+% against OU, but if he can be 60% and still be around 10 YPA we're fine. He doesn't have a quick release, but the key is he has gotten much better at his reads, especially before the snap. He's been good about anticipating coverages and getting the ball to the open guys because of that IMO. He's not going to go through his progression and hit his 3rd or 4th guy with a quick throw, but if he can continue to accurately read defenses pre-snap or quickly after the snap then he can get the ball where it needs to go. Granted, OU's scheme and talent will make that more difficult and he will make some mistakes.
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I have no reason to believe we can't go to Norman and compete. This notion that we'll get blown out is not crazy, but IMO its unlikely. Even in last year's game we had all the momentum midway through the 2nd quarter with the lead, then we drove and missed a FG, and finally finished the half with a fumble allowing OU to kick a FG to go up 23-17 at half time. Granted, the 2nd half we absolutely didn't show up, but that was the anomaly half of the season. Against that vaunted OU defense in the first half K-State averaged 6.7 yards per play last year. It was only when we got behind by multiple scores and were forced to pass that OU poured it on.
This year I don't see OU being able to abuse our defense as easily as it did last year, though I have no doubt OU will gain plenty of yards. I also see us being much more able to stay in the game with our passing game, last year when we played OU we still had a long ways to go in our passing game.
I still firmly believe in the notion of this thread that the dynamic in this game is different this year and I anticipate a very competitive game in Norman.
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I have no reason to believe we can't go to Norman and compete. This notion that we'll get blown out is not crazy, but IMO its unlikely. Even in last year's game we had all the momentum midway through the 2nd quarter with the lead, then we drove and missed a FG, and finally finished the half with a fumble allowing OU to kick a FG to go up 23-17 at half time. Granted, the 2nd half we absolutely didn't show up, but that was the anomaly half of the season. Against that vaunted OU defense in the first half K-State averaged 6.7 yards per play last year. It was only when we got behind by multiple scores and were forced to pass that OU poured it on.
This year I don't see OU being able to abuse our defense as easily as it did last year, though I have no doubt OU will gain plenty of yards. I also see us being much more able to stay in the game with our passing game, last year when we played OU we still had a long ways to go in our passing game.
I still firmly believe in the notion of this thread that the dynamic in this game is different this year and I anticipate a very competitive game in Norman.
The very best.
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_FAN laying the smackdown on the "negative nancys" :love:
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Can we please get the topography smack off thread started? I have to drive through that trashcan of a state on a reg basis and I'm looking forward to what all else think about the dirty dirt.
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Can we please get the topography smack off thread started? I have to drive through that trashcan of a state on a reg basis and I'm looking forward to what all else think about the dirty dirt.
I remember it was not possible to own any white clothing while living there...also the first time I saw a lake that wasn't red kinda freaked me out.
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_FAN laying the smackdown on the "negative nancys" :love:
Pffft. He did it before last year's OU game, too.
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
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_FAN laying the smackdown on the "negative nancys" :love:
Pffft. He did it before last year's OU game, too.
You are so mean to me now. Sheesh.
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
Nailed it.
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_FAN laying the smackdown on the "negative nancys" :love:
Pffft. He did it before last year's OU game, too.
You are so mean to me now. Sheesh.
I loved your _FANalyses.
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_FAN laying the smackdown on the "negative nancys" :love:
Pffft. He did it before last year's OU game, too.
You are so mean to me now. Sheesh.
there's a lot of anger on the board today
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
This is kind of a big difference, imo.
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
This is kind of a big difference, imo.
We're K-State. Our best basketball team ever got curbstomped in Allen. Our best football team could absolutely get the crap beat out of them.
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
This is kind of a big difference, imo.
We're K-State. Our best basketball team ever got curbstomped in Allen. Our best football team could absolutely get the crap beat out of them.
OU's best football team ever got the crap beat out of them. It definitely could happen to us as well.
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Oh look, a "keep the red out" and "OU Hate Week" movement starting on twitter. This sounds familiar.
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Oh look, a "keep the red out" and "OU Hate Week" movement starting on twitter. This sounds familiar.
Do they know it's a road game? How do they propose keeping the red out of Norman?
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Oh look, a "keep the red out" and "OU Hate Week" movement starting on twitter. This sounds familiar.
Do they know it's a road game? How do they propose keeping the red out of Norman?
maybe they mean "keep the red out of your clothes when you visit oklahoma because the dirt is actually red for real down there. it will get in your clothes and just suck, so, just a reminder to, you know, keep the red out you guys."
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Oh look, a "keep the red out" and "OU Hate Week" movement starting on twitter. This sounds familiar.
Do they know it's a road game? How do they propose keeping the red out of Norman?
maybe they mean "keep the red out of your clothes when you visit oklahoma because the dirt is actually red for real down there. it will get in your clothes and just suck, so, just a reminder to, you know, keep the red out you guys."
Somebody told me that the water down there will turn your white clothes a real light red, almost pink. So all you guys staying the night, just remember not to wash your clothes until you get back to civilization.
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
That game had some unearned optimism. What would go on to be one of the worst K-State defenses ever had already allowed nearly 800 yards rushing in 4 games before the OU game, so we already knew we were pretty bad against the run.
This year's defense isn't going to be Top 10 in the country or anything, but I think we've got enough athletes/play makers that an embarrassing performance like we saw that day (or last year for that matter) isn't going to happen. I think we've got more play makers on this defense than we did last year as well, especially in our front 7.
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If we play well and our guys leave everything out on that field then I will be happy. But only if we win.
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I would be happy with a sub-par performance as well, so long as we win.
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
That game had some unearned optimism. What would go on to be one of the worst K-State defenses ever had already allowed nearly 800 yards rushing in 4 games before the OU game, so we already knew we were pretty bad against the run.
This year's defense isn't going to be Top 10 in the country or anything, but I think we've got enough athletes/play makers that an embarrassing performance like we saw that day (or last year for that matter) isn't going to happen. I think we've got more play makers on this defense than we did last year as well, especially in our front 7.
Everything felt so big timey before that game and then we just got utterly destroyed.
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
That game had some unearned optimism. What would go on to be one of the worst K-State defenses ever had already allowed nearly 800 yards rushing in 4 games before the OU game, so we already knew we were pretty bad against the run.
This year's defense isn't going to be Top 10 in the country or anything, but I think we've got enough athletes/play makers that an embarrassing performance like we saw that day (or last year for that matter) isn't going to happen. I think we've got more play makers on this defense than we did last year as well, especially in our front 7.
Everything felt so big timey before that game and then we just got utterly destroyed.
Yeah, it was terrible, and had some of the most inept defensive coaching I've ever seen. Of course, we simply didn't have many defensive players that year either.
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This game kind of feels like 2010 nebraska to me (except we have a much better team). Everyone gets all excited, talks about past victories that seemed impossible and then we just crap the bed.
That game had some unearned optimism. What would go on to be one of the worst K-State defenses ever had already allowed nearly 800 yards rushing in 4 games before the OU game, so we already knew we were pretty bad against the run.
This year's defense isn't going to be Top 10 in the country or anything, but I think we've got enough athletes/play makers that an embarrassing performance like we saw that day (or last year for that matter) isn't going to happen. I think we've got more play makers on this defense than we did last year as well, especially in our front 7.
Everything felt so big timey before that game and then we just got utterly destroyed.
Taylor Martinez isn't coming out of that tunnel on Saturday.
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Hrebec was a starter against NU 2010, man let that one sink in.
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Hrebec was a starter against NU 2010, man let that one sink in.
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Stopped reading at page 6.
I am going to fistfuck all of you negative nancys after we win. Your wives too.
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Stopped reading at page 6.
I am going to fistfuck all of you negative nancys after we win. Your wives too.
Don't worry, we will lose. Bad.
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Stopped reading at page 6.
I am going to fistfuck all of you negative nancys after we win. Your wives too.
:sdeek: Caligula_Kid
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Stopped reading at page 6.
I am going to fistfuck all of you negative nancys after we win. Your wives too.
Perfect use of the word "your." :drool:
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Could have been referring to the fact that they are all females...or in this case "you're wives too (named Nancy)."
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_FAN laying the smackdown on the "negative nancys" :love:
Pffft. He did it before last year's OU game, too.
You are so mean to me now. Sheesh.
there's a lot of anger on the board today
We're all just so confused by our emotions. We want to let the cats back in, but we've been hurt so bad before. That's why they put up walls.
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_FAN laying the smackdown on the "negative nancys" :love:
Pffft. He did it before last year's OU game, too.
You are so mean to me now. Sheesh.
there's a lot of anger on the board today
We're all just so confused by our emotions. We want to let the cats back in, but we've been hurt so bad before. That's why they put up walls.
TEAR DOWN THAT WALL. :shakesfist:
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i think that north texas game mumped us, if we could have played OU riding the momentum of the miami game i think we could have cruised against ou. I still honestly think we win but its a toss up i see it resembling the osu game last year but we make enough plays to win. not having broyles is huge and they really only have stills (minus a player we could make look like a 1st rounder as we do on occasion) our defense overall is better than last year and anyone with a pulse knows that if ou gets inside the 5 they are going to give it to that bad person from carroll so all we have to do is stack the box ala miami last year. we need some things to go our way but if we dont turn the ball over we win. they are crap at special teams cant stop the run and landry has looked like crap, they get back 1 player from suspension. people saying we dont have a chance are obviously blind
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HOW CAN I BELIEVE YOU'VE REALLY CHANGED!
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don't be a bigot kslim. kind of make us look trashy.
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don't be a bigot kslim. kind of make us look trashy.
fixed sorry the anger got the best of me
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enjoyed the symmetry of that edit
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We are gonna win this year because the towel waving 'spy' is gone from our sidelines. Anyone else think it was suspicious that Stoops got Joe Gordon that job this summer? Yea, me too! Joe Gordon betrayed us last year because Stoop promised to get him a real job in the summer. The truth hurts. At least we will totally win this year!
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i think that north texas game mumped us, if we could have played OU riding the momentum of the miami game i think we could have cruised against ou. I still honestly think we win but its a toss up i see it resembling the osu game last year but we make enough plays to win. not having broyles is huge and they really only have stills (minus a player we could make look like a 1st rounder as we do on occasion) our defense overall is better than last year and anyone with a pulse knows that if ou gets inside the 5 they are going to give it to that bad person from carroll so all we have to do is stack the box ala miami last year. we need some things to go our way but if we dont turn the ball over we win. they are crap at special teams cant stop the run and landry has looked like crap, they get back 1 player from suspension. people saying we dont have a chance are obviously blind
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i think that north texas game mumped us, if we could have played OU riding the momentum of the miami game i think we could have cruised against ou.
Disagree completely with this. A bad week of practice/bad game is all snyder needs to make goddamn sure that everything goes perfect the next week in practice.
I still honestly think we win but its a toss up i see it resembling the osu game last year but we make enough plays to win. not having broyles is huge and they really only have stills (minus a player we could make look like a 1st rounder as we do on occasion) our defense overall is better than last year and anyone with a pulse knows that if ou gets inside the 5 they are going to give it to that bad person from carroll so all we have to do is stack the box ala miami last year. we need some things to go our way but if we dont turn the ball over we win. they are crap at special teams cant stop the run and landry has looked like crap, they get back 1 player from suspension. people saying we dont have a chance are obviously blind
I agree completely with this.
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I want to believe again.....
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I re-believe.
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i think that north texas game mumped us, if we could have played OU riding the momentum of the miami game i think we could have cruised against ou.
Disagree completely with this. A bad week of practice/bad game is all snyder needs to make goddamn sure that everything goes perfect the next week in practice.
Yes, EMAWmeister, YES!
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The more I think about this game the more sure I am that we will win. But the weird thing is, even when I think less about it, I still get more sure that we will win. :horrorsurprise: :thumbs:
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I'd like to see a Hatter update after North Texas............that "athletic" OL didn't look very good against Phil Steele's 110 ranked team.
The offensive line looked fine against North Texas. UNT played near the line and we averaged over 5.1 yards per carry rushing it and surrendered zero sacks on 20 passing attempts. Plus, after the first quarter the offense was rolling. If Hubert doesn't fumble going in we put up 42 points while being fairly conservative. While we didn't produce 500 yards the yards per play numbers were very good and that was after an abysmal first quarter.
I have zero concerns about our offense this year.
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I'd like to see a Hatter update after North Texas............that "athletic" OL didn't look very good against Phil Steele's 110 ranked team.
The offensive line looked fine against North Texas. UNT played near the line and we averaged over 5.1 yards per carry rushing it and surrendered zero sacks on 20 passing attempts. Plus, after the first quarter the offense was rolling. If Hubert doesn't fumble going in we put up 42 points while being fairly conservative. While we didn't produce 500 yards the yards per play numbers were very good and that was after an abysmal first quarter.
I have zero concerns about our offense this year.
Was the defensive line as bad as they looked or was that asskicking they took a result of North Texas using big sets against a soft zone coverage?
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i think that north texas game mumped us, if we could have played OU riding the momentum of the miami game i think we could have cruised against ou.
Disagree completely with this. A bad week of practice/bad game is all snyder needs to make goddamn sure that everything goes perfect the next week in practice.
Agree completely. I think it was exactly what Snyder needed to get everybody's crap lined out.
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I'd like to see a Hatter update after North Texas............that "athletic" OL didn't look very good against Phil Steele's 110 ranked team.
The offensive line looked fine against North Texas. UNT played near the line and we averaged over 5.1 yards per carry rushing it and surrendered zero sacks on 20 passing attempts. Plus, after the first quarter the offense was rolling. If Hubert doesn't fumble going in we put up 42 points while being fairly conservative. While we didn't produce 500 yards the yards per play numbers were very good and that was after an abysmal first quarter.
I have zero concerns about our offense this year.
Was the defensive line as bad as they looked or was that asskicking they took a result of North Texas using big sets against a soft zone coverage?
First, it is quite possible that North Texas has a Big 12 caliber offensive line. What I would caution, when placing blame on the defensive line, is to look at the numbers. North Texas surrendered 10 tackles for loss (6 by DL), 3 sacks, and surrendered 3.6 ypc rushing it. Those numbers would suggest the defensive line was NOT terrible. I think the biggest reason North Texas had success in moving and maintaining the ball is that we simply played very soft zone coverage. The philosophy being, if they're going to drive it then they will need to sustain very long drives. We didn't feel they could do it. Their QB had a very good game completing passes underneath but they didn't have a single reception greater than 20 yards. We are more than willing to give teams that sort of stuff underneath all game long. The other reason North Texas had long drives is because we didn't tackle worth a damn. Part of that is simply focus. Look, we were very disinterested in playing that game. I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat. The kids knew that as well.
I will reiterate time and again that Oklahoma will attempt to throw the ball downfield more often. They are far less likely to just sit back and take the underneath stuff for 12-13 play drives. They have question marks in their pass protection and, as good of an NFL prospect as he is, Jones is nowhere near as mobile as the QBs we have faced the past three games. Outside of Ikard, both Missouri State and Miami had more experience on their offensive lines.
This Oklahoma team is not the threat offensively that they were a year ago. Not with the line play they had plus the presence of Broyles. Sure, their wide receivers are more skilled and better athletes than our secondary but it still calls for chemistry with their QB and execution by their offensive line. You can't simply throw talent on the field and it works like a machine.
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I'd like to see a Hatter update after North Texas............that "athletic" OL didn't look very good against Phil Steele's 110 ranked team.
The offensive line looked fine against North Texas. UNT played near the line and we averaged over 5.1 yards per carry rushing it and surrendered zero sacks on 20 passing attempts. Plus, after the first quarter the offense was rolling. If Hubert doesn't fumble going in we put up 42 points while being fairly conservative. While we didn't produce 500 yards the yards per play numbers were very good and that was after an abysmal first quarter.
I have zero concerns about our offense this year.
Was the defensive line as bad as they looked or was that asskicking they took a result of North Texas using big sets against a soft zone coverage?
First, it is quite possible that North Texas has a Big 12 caliber offensive line. What I would caution, when placing blame on the defensive line, is to look at the numbers. North Texas surrendered 10 tackles for loss (6 by DL), 3 sacks, and surrendered 3.6 ypc rushing it. Those numbers would suggest the defensive line was NOT terrible. I think the biggest reason North Texas had success in moving and maintaining the ball is that we simply played very soft zone coverage. The philosophy being, if they're going to drive it then they will need to sustain very long drives. We didn't feel they could do it. Their QB had a very good game completing passes underneath but they didn't have a single reception greater than 20 yards. We are more than willing to give teams that sort of stuff underneath all game long. The other reason North Texas had long drives is because we didn't tackle worth a damn. Part of that is simply focus. Look, we were very disinterested in playing that game. I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat. The kids knew that as well.
I will reiterate time and again that Oklahoma will attempt to throw the ball downfield more often. They are far less likely to just sit back and take the underneath stuff for 12-13 play drives. They have question marks in their pass protection and, as good of an NFL prospect as he is, Jones is nowhere near as mobile as the QBs we have faced the past three games. Outside of Ikard, both Missouri State and Miami had more experience on their offensive lines.
This Oklahoma team is not the threat offensively that they were a year ago. Not with the line play they had plus the presence of Broyles. Sure, their wide receivers are more skilled and better athletes than our secondary but it still calls for chemistry with their QB and execution by their offensive line. You can't simply throw talent on the field and it works like a machine.
I'm so :ksu: :dance: :lynchmob: :katpak: :excited: :emawkid: :weirdrobert: :moreira: :kstatriot: right now.
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I'd like to see a Hatter update after North Texas............that "athletic" OL didn't look very good against Phil Steele's 110 ranked team.
The offensive line looked fine against North Texas. UNT played near the line and we averaged over 5.1 yards per carry rushing it and surrendered zero sacks on 20 passing attempts. Plus, after the first quarter the offense was rolling. If Hubert doesn't fumble going in we put up 42 points while being fairly conservative. While we didn't produce 500 yards the yards per play numbers were very good and that was after an abysmal first quarter.
I have zero concerns about our offense this year.
Was the defensive line as bad as they looked or was that asskicking they took a result of North Texas using big sets against a soft zone coverage?
First, it is quite possible that North Texas has a Big 12 caliber offensive line. What I would caution, when placing blame on the defensive line, is to look at the numbers. North Texas surrendered 10 tackles for loss (6 by DL), 3 sacks, and surrendered 3.6 ypc rushing it. Those numbers would suggest the defensive line was NOT terrible. I think the biggest reason North Texas had success in moving and maintaining the ball is that we simply played very soft zone coverage. The philosophy being, if they're going to drive it then they will need to sustain very long drives. We didn't feel they could do it. Their QB had a very good game completing passes underneath but they didn't have a single reception greater than 20 yards. We are more than willing to give teams that sort of stuff underneath all game long. The other reason North Texas had long drives is because we didn't tackle worth a damn. Part of that is simply focus. Look, we were very disinterested in playing that game. I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat. The kids knew that as well.
I will reiterate time and again that Oklahoma will attempt to throw the ball downfield more often. They are far less likely to just sit back and take the underneath stuff for 12-13 play drives. They have question marks in their pass protection and, as good of an NFL prospect as he is, Jones is nowhere near as mobile as the QBs we have faced the past three games. Outside of Ikard, both Missouri State and Miami had more experience on their offensive lines.
This Oklahoma team is not the threat offensively that they were a year ago. Not with the line play they had plus the presence of Broyles. Sure, their wide receivers are more skilled and better athletes than our secondary but it still calls for chemistry with their QB and execution by their offensive line. You can't simply throw talent on the field and it works like a machine.
Good stuff.
We'll see different stuff against OU than we did the first 3 games defensively against OU. No guarantee it will work, but I expect us to be a bit more aggressive. The key will be how we handle the deep throws and tackling (which at times was the biggest concern in watching the NT game to me).
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purplehaze are you going to be in norman?
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Thanks for that, Manhatter.
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I'd like to see a Hatter update after North Texas............that "athletic" OL didn't look very good against Phil Steele's 110 ranked team.
The offensive line looked fine against North Texas. UNT played near the line and we averaged over 5.1 yards per carry rushing it and surrendered zero sacks on 20 passing attempts. Plus, after the first quarter the offense was rolling. If Hubert doesn't fumble going in we put up 42 points while being fairly conservative. While we didn't produce 500 yards the yards per play numbers were very good and that was after an abysmal first quarter.
I have zero concerns about our offense this year.
Was the defensive line as bad as they looked or was that asskicking they took a result of North Texas using big sets against a soft zone coverage?
First, it is quite possible that North Texas has a Big 12 caliber offensive line. What I would caution, when placing blame on the defensive line, is to look at the numbers. North Texas surrendered 10 tackles for loss (6 by DL), 3 sacks, and surrendered 3.6 ypc rushing it. Those numbers would suggest the defensive line was NOT terrible. I think the biggest reason North Texas had success in moving and maintaining the ball is that we simply played very soft zone coverage. The philosophy being, if they're going to drive it then they will need to sustain very long drives. We didn't feel they could do it. Their QB had a very good game completing passes underneath but they didn't have a single reception greater than 20 yards. We are more than willing to give teams that sort of stuff underneath all game long. The other reason North Texas had long drives is because we didn't tackle worth a damn. Part of that is simply focus. Look, we were very disinterested in playing that game. I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat. The kids knew that as well.
I will reiterate time and again that Oklahoma will attempt to throw the ball downfield more often. They are far less likely to just sit back and take the underneath stuff for 12-13 play drives. They have question marks in their pass protection and, as good of an NFL prospect as he is, Jones is nowhere near as mobile as the QBs we have faced the past three games. Outside of Ikard, both Missouri State and Miami had more experience on their offensive lines.
This Oklahoma team is not the threat offensively that they were a year ago. Not with the line play they had plus the presence of Broyles. Sure, their wide receivers are more skilled and better athletes than our secondary but it still calls for chemistry with their QB and execution by their offensive line. You can't simply throw talent on the field and it works like a machine.
Good stuff.
We'll see different stuff against OU than we did the first 3 games defensively against OU. No guarantee it will work, but I expect us to be a bit more aggressive. The key will be how we handle the deep throws and tackling (which at times was the biggest concern in watching the NT game to me).
One thing I like...while the presumed three starters for OU's wide receiving corps are very good downfield type threats...none of them are scary after the catch. I can't recall a time we played them when they didn't have someone who terrified you in terms of YACs. Broyles, Bradley, Clayton, Savage...even H-Back/TEs like Norman, Trent Smith, and the deep threat at TE last year. The receivers they have this year are guys that can stretch you deep (Stills) or make the acrobatic grabs (Brown and Metoyer) but I have yet to see anyone who will truly make you pay after the catch. It is possible that guys like Neal and Shepard, true freshman, have been incorporated into the offense the past two weeks but until they get in they're not a threat.
These teams, while possessing some familiar names, are vastly different teams than a year ago. And I felt that was the worst half of football (2nd half OU) that a Snyder team has played in a while.
BTW, Snyder vs. Stoops in Norman had two very competitive games ('01 and '09) and a beatdown in '05. He really has not taken a good team into Norman to face Stoops. This might be the best one to do that.
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I'd like to see a Hatter update after North Texas............that "athletic" OL didn't look very good against Phil Steele's 110 ranked team.
The offensive line looked fine against North Texas. UNT played near the line and we averaged over 5.1 yards per carry rushing it and surrendered zero sacks on 20 passing attempts. Plus, after the first quarter the offense was rolling. If Hubert doesn't fumble going in we put up 42 points while being fairly conservative. While we didn't produce 500 yards the yards per play numbers were very good and that was after an abysmal first quarter.
I have zero concerns about our offense this year.
Was the defensive line as bad as they looked or was that asskicking they took a result of North Texas using big sets against a soft zone coverage?
First, it is quite possible that North Texas has a Big 12 caliber offensive line. What I would caution, when placing blame on the defensive line, is to look at the numbers. North Texas surrendered 10 tackles for loss (6 by DL), 3 sacks, and surrendered 3.6 ypc rushing it. Those numbers would suggest the defensive line was NOT terrible. I think the biggest reason North Texas had success in moving and maintaining the ball is that we simply played very soft zone coverage. The philosophy being, if they're going to drive it then they will need to sustain very long drives. We didn't feel they could do it. Their QB had a very good game completing passes underneath but they didn't have a single reception greater than 20 yards. We are more than willing to give teams that sort of stuff underneath all game long. The other reason North Texas had long drives is because we didn't tackle worth a damn. Part of that is simply focus. Look, we were very disinterested in playing that game. I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat. The kids knew that as well.
I will reiterate time and again that Oklahoma will attempt to throw the ball downfield more often. They are far less likely to just sit back and take the underneath stuff for 12-13 play drives. They have question marks in their pass protection and, as good of an NFL prospect as he is, Jones is nowhere near as mobile as the QBs we have faced the past three games. Outside of Ikard, both Missouri State and Miami had more experience on their offensive lines.
This Oklahoma team is not the threat offensively that they were a year ago. Not with the line play they had plus the presence of Broyles. Sure, their wide receivers are more skilled and better athletes than our secondary but it still calls for chemistry with their QB and execution by their offensive line. You can't simply throw talent on the field and it works like a machine.
Good stuff.
We'll see different stuff against OU than we did the first 3 games defensively against OU. No guarantee it will work, but I expect us to be a bit more aggressive. The key will be how we handle the deep throws and tackling (which at times was the biggest concern in watching the NT game to me).
One thing I like...while the presumed three starters for OU's wide receiving corps are very good downfield type threats...none of them are scary after the catch. I can't recall a time we played them when they didn't have someone who terrified you in terms of YACs. Broyles, Bradley, Clayton, Savage...even H-Back/TEs like Norman, Trent Smith, and the deep threat at TE last year. The receivers they have this year are guys that can stretch you deep (Stills) or make the acrobatic grabs (Brown and Metoyer) but I have yet to see anyone who will truly make you pay after the catch. It is possible that guys like Neal and Shepard, true freshman, have been incorporated into the offense the past two weeks but until they get in they're not a threat.
These teams, while possessing some familiar names, are vastly different teams than a year ago. And I felt that was the worst half of football (2nd half OU) that a Snyder team has played in a while.
BTW, Snyder vs. Stoops in Norman had two very competitive games ('01 and '09) and a beatdown in '05. He really has not taken a good team into Norman to face Stoops. This might be the best one to do that.
keep going, seriously. what else can you throw out there that will continue to raise my confidence? :excited:
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Don't do this to me Manhatter. Not you.
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Do this to him Manhatter. Do this to all of us!
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'hatter, kk and _FAN have saved the thread :love:
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Confidence rising...
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Milo.
I think he will be a huge advantage to us roaming the secondary against OU. I love his athleticism in tackling and covering deep.
Zimmerman.
I don't trust him at all.
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Do this to him Manhatter. Do this to all of us!
I am so nervous/excited. I mean what if?
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
And then Sams comes in for the second half and just embarrasses them.
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
The rankings thread will be epic!
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purplehaze are you going to be in norman?
yep! :thumbsup:
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
Then we'd all remind ourselves of this:
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the best part? as everyone else is cheering mindlessly for the cats, this elite fellow has his eyes on the prize..."1:09 left kids. Still got some ballgame left"
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
OU first half possessions:
Punt
Interception for TD
Fumble
Turnover on Downs
Punt
Interception
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The more I think about this game the more sure I am that we will win. But the weird thing is, even when I think less about it, I still get more sure that we will win. :horrorsurprise: :thumbs:
You are in my top 5 favorite posters.
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
i would probably by a case of dr.pepper and just enjoy the second half. 21 point cushion would be great, we just need to wear them down they have no depth
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
"THEY MADE US LOOK STOOPID"
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Oklahoma Coach Goes Ballistic as K-State Rolls in Norman
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PACK UP THE SAMS-ONITE
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Daniel Sams racks up 450 yards in flyer miles in route of the Sooners
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I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat.
I want to believe this. But there was a former player for Snyder on 810 last week (don't remember who) who pretty much shot down this theory completely. OBz could have changed by now but the player said absolutely there was never a mention of overlooking a pud team for the big game the following weekend.
Take it fwiw.
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Didn't Malone have two picks from Landry Jones last year?
Nigel, we need you man.
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
Just imagine those 4th quarter shots of Collin Klein on the sideline laughing it up, then they pull back and the stadium is just empty.
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
This is going to happen, except instead of phone calls it will be double high fives with all of my bros in the faces of the OU fans.
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I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat.
I want to believe this. But there was a former player for Snyder on 810 last week (don't remember who) who pretty much shot down this theory completely. OBz could have changed by now but the player said absolutely there was never a mention of overlooking a pud team for the big game the following weekend.
Take it fwiw.
That contradicts something BITB said the other day. Apparently Mangino said that Snyder wouldn't even practice for KU back in the day, and would just look ahead to the next opponent.
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I'M ALL IN!!! I'M DRINKING THE PURPLE KOOL-AID!!! I'M DOING IT AGAIN!!! :drink:
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I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat.
I want to believe this. But there was a former player for Snyder on 810 last week (don't remember who) who pretty much shot down this theory completely. OBz could have changed by now but the player said absolutely there was never a mention of overlooking a pud team for the big game the following weekend.
Take it fwiw.
He wouldn't tell the team they were practicing for OU, he's scheming our team too. He'd be all "Oklaho.... I mean um, North Texas has a tendency to keep their corners close..."
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Does anyone remember when they stomped on CK's chest? I want to get angried up.
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The Heart Attack Cats at it Again
Stoops Leaves at Half for Hospital Because of Chest Pain as Kansas State Rolls
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If we win, do the goalposts come down?
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I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat.
I want to believe this. But there was a former player for Snyder on 810 last week (don't remember who) who pretty much shot down this theory completely. OBz could have changed by now but the player said absolutely there was never a mention of overlooking a pud team for the big game the following weekend.
Take it fwiw.
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I'd say its good of that player to follow the Snyder party line.
And FWIW he probably technically isn't lying. You can easily practice schemes you don't use against an inferior opponent without naming the later opponent those schemes are for. Granted, most of the players know what you are doing, but you can still be prepping for the future. It not like the coaches said "Hey guys, we are not going to work on NT at all, this is just OU prep." But they likely were repping stuff (on both sides of the ball) that never saw the field last Saturday.
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Hanging the Landry out to Dry
Bob Stoops criticizes his quarterback in postgame,
Klein rushes for 3 Touchdowns as KSU rolls by 21
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I'M ALL IN!!! I'M DRINKING THE PURPLE KOOL-AID!!! I'M DOING IT AGAIN!!! :drink:
That crap tastes like the sweet nectar of the Gods! :lick:
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ok officially need new thread for the post game headlines :excited:
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I want to believe this. But there was a former player for Snyder on 810 last week (don't remember who) who pretty much shot down this theory completely. OBz could have changed by now but the player said absolutely there was never a mention of overlooking a pud team for the big game the following weekend.
Take it fwiw.
it was nick leckey. what kind of KAT fan are you?
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LHC Bill Snyder says Arthur Brown, B.J. Finney, Angelo Pease, and Andre McDonald will be available to play at Oklahoma on Saturday.
That's our Bill. :emawkid:
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LHC LHC Bill Snyder says Arthur Brown, B.J. Finney, Angelo Pease, and Andre McDonald will be available to play at Oklahoma on Saturday.
That's our Bill. :emawkid:
KSU Football: We let the dogs out.
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I want to believe this. But there was a former player for Snyder on 810 last week (don't remember who) who pretty much shot down this theory completely. OBz could have changed by now but the player said absolutely there was never a mention of overlooking a pud team for the big game the following weekend.
Take it fwiw.
it was nick leckey. what kind of KAT fan are you?
not very old and 1st generation
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
If we get up by a few scores...Snyder will take the air out of the ball and bleed them slowly. Think 2003 and how easy that one was with the lead. Give this particular Snyder offense a few score leads and they will be far more difficult to beat than last year's team. I think the offense is certainly improved. It is minimal at a few different places but that adds up to quite a bit when you look at it holistically.
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
If we get up by a few scores...Snyder will take the air out of the ball and bleed them slowly. Think 2003 and how easy that one was with the lead. Give this particular Snyder offense a few score leads and they will be far more difficult to beat than last year's team. I think the offense is certainly improved. It is minimal at a few different places but that adds up to quite a bit when you look at it holistically.
Experience everywhere, but the biggest improvement is at both tackles. Significant. JMHO.
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Little Man on Campus
Tyler Lockett with 321 Total yards and 3TD's,
Sams seals game with 32 yard reverse pass to his good friend Collin Klein
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What if we roll them huge. Like early 21 point cushion or something? Would feel so good you guys. We all start partying early and at halftime we are all calling each other and acting cocky and stuff. Man.
If we get up by a few scores...Snyder will take the air out of the ball and bleed them slowly. Think 2003 and how easy that one was with the lead. Give this particular Snyder offense a few score leads and they will be far more difficult to beat than last year's team. I think the offense is certainly improved. It is minimal at a few different places but that adds up to quite a bit when you look at it holistically.
Experience everywhere, but the biggest improvement is at both tackles. Significant. JMHO.
true, but we're simply better athletically at LT, LG, RG, and RT at the moment than we were at any time last year. Add in the more experience at a number of positions...it adds up.
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I would cite for most of the folks on this board. This game will be won up front and not by the skill players (for instance, Landry, OU receivers vs. KSU secondary).
There is a reason Matt Barkley, with his cast of returning stud skill players, put up 14 points against Stanford last week after they bombed the Cardinal for 40-plus last season. The game was completely different at the LOS, period. A few differences in personnel can change the matchups between two teams drastically.
I believe we have more NFL prospects in the matchup between our offensive line and their defensive line or front 7. That was NOT the case last year.
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I believe we have more NFL prospects in the matchup between our offensive line and their defensive line or front 7. That was NOT the case last year.
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LHC LHC Bill Snyder says Arthur Brown, B.J. Finney, Angelo Pease, and Andre McDonald will be available to play at Oklahoma on Saturday.
That's our Bill. :emawkid:
Game rough ridin' Over. MCMW! :lynchmob:
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I would cite for most of the folks on this board. This game will be won up front and not by the skill players (for instance, Landry, OU receivers vs. KSU secondary).
There is a reason Matt Barkley, with his cast of returning stud skill players, put up 14 points against Stanford last week after they bombed the Cardinal for 40-plus last season. The game was completely different at the LOS, period. A few differences in personnel can change the matchups between two teams drastically.
I believe we have more NFL prospects in the matchup between our offensive line and their defensive line or front 7. That was NOT the case last year.
....aaaaaaaannnnnndddddd CK will just run by their shitty over-aggressive lil stoopsie defense.
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I'll say this once and don't need to discuss it again.
Anybody who quotes BITB in terms of predictions, football strategy, coaching, player evaluation, etc....is quoting a bafoon in that regard. I like BITB and find him highly entertaining but his knowledge about the sport is elementary as it is with most of the media.
FACT
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I'll say this once and don't need to discuss it again.
Anybody who quotes BITB in terms of predictions, football strategy, coaching, player evaluation, etc....is quoting a bafoon in that regard. I like BITB and find him highly entertaining but his knowledge about the sport is elementary as it is with most of the media.
FACT
All qualities that make him BITB
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yeah, he's not BITB at knowing about sports obviously.
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Manhatter was all about Kibble last year before anyone else caught on. Made me nervous about losing him this year.
Any positive notes about the K-State DTs to share? (only thing I'm mildly concerned about)
This would move my confidence meter beyond 11.
:ksu:
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Manhatter was all about Kibble last year before anyone else caught on. Made me nervous about losing him this year.
Any positive notes about the K-State DTs to share? (only thing I'm mildly concerned about)
This would move my confidence meter beyond 11.
:ksu:
We are not as good at NT as we were a year ago. Nope. I still have fingers crossed that Akinola gets cleared and starts to get reps. Good news is we are better at both ends, DT, all three LB spots. That helps to cover up the drop off from the play at nose. I'm sorry but this is the best that I can do. We're not as good at Nose Tackle this year.
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Manhatter was all about Kibble last year before anyone else caught on. Made me nervous about losing him this year.
Any positive notes about the K-State DTs to share? (only thing I'm mildly concerned about)
This would move my confidence meter beyond 11.
:ksu:
Now do OU's lines.
We are not as good at NT as we were a year ago. Nope. I still have fingers crossed that Akinola gets cleared and starts to get reps. Good news is we are better at both ends, DT, all three LB spots. That helps to cover up the drop off from the play at nose. I'm sorry but this is the best that I can do. We're not as good at Nose Tackle this year.
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Manhatter was all about Kibble last year before anyone else caught on. Made me nervous about losing him this year.
Any positive notes about the K-State DTs to share? (only thing I'm mildly concerned about)
This would move my confidence meter beyond 11.
:ksu:
We are not as good at NT as we were a year ago. Nope. I still have fingers crossed that Akinola gets cleared and starts to get reps. Good news is we are better at both ends, DT, all three LB spots. That helps to cover up the drop off from the play at nose. I'm sorry but this is the best that I can do. We're not as good at Nose Tackle this year.
I appreciate your analysis and honesty.
Still at an 11 on the confidence meter.
:lynchmob:
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It's only Tuesday and I can't work.
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It's only Tuesday and I can't work.
I read this threads and my heart starts pumping heavily and I get goosebumps all over. Planning on a panic attack at some point during the game.
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It's only Tuesday and I can't work.
3 nervous poops today already!
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K-State Passing Attack Detonates Sooners
This Year More Bombs in Stadium Than Out
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K-State Coach LHC Bill Snyder Points Out Incoming Suicide Bomber During OU/K-State Pregame
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K-State Passing Attack Detonates Sooners
This Year More Bombs in Stadium Than Out
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K-State Coach LHC Bill Snyder Points Out Incoming Suicide Bomber During OU/K-State Pregame
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
They have no offensive scheme per se. Now I'm like infinity percent certain we'll win.
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
They have no offensive scheme per se. Now I'm like infinity percent certain we'll win.
It's simple really, spread you out with our athletes. Exploit any and all weaknesses on the fly.
It's what we do.
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
They have no offensive scheme per se. Now I'm like infinity percent certain we'll win.
It's simple really, spread you out with our athletes. Exploit any and all weaknesses on the fly.
It's what we do.
Yep. Nothing like having no plan and just making things up on the fly to guarantee a victory.
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
WHAT DA eff IS THIS crap
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Ah, yes. This certainly worked well for miami.
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First, it is quite possible that North Texas has a Big 12 caliber offensive line. What I would caution, when placing blame on the defensive line, is to look at the numbers. North Texas surrendered 10 tackles for loss (6 by DL), 3 sacks, and surrendered 3.6 ypc rushing it. Those numbers would suggest the defensive line was NOT terrible. I think the biggest reason North Texas had success in moving and maintaining the ball is that we simply played very soft zone coverage. The philosophy being, if they're going to drive it then they will need to sustain very long drives. We didn't feel they could do it. Their QB had a very good game completing passes underneath but they didn't have a single reception greater than 20 yards. We are more than willing to give teams that sort of stuff underneath all game long.
To provide context to the 3.6ypc, i believe KSU's avg last year was 3.9ypc. I wouldn't have called our offensive rushing and overall offensive philosophy ineffective. Sure, we gave them the underneath stuff, probably by design, however that doesn't mean when taken into the context of the the prior two games, that I should be happy about this secondary. It's worse than last year.
The other reason North Texas had long drives is because we didn't tackle worth a damn. Part of that is simply focus. Look, we were very disinterested in playing that game. I believe Snyder prepared for OU all week and just threw in a gameplan for North Texas with the impression that a team full of veterans could manage a game vs. an opponent that was an explosive threat. The kids knew that as well.
I don't doubt that there wasn't much prep. But I think it only highlights the small talent gap between KSU and most of its opponents, specifically those from now on.
I will reiterate time and again that Oklahoma will attempt to throw the ball downfield more often. They are far less likely to just sit back and take the underneath stuff for 12-13 play drives. They have question marks in their pass protection and, as good of an NFL prospect as he is, Jones is nowhere near as mobile as the QBs we have faced the past three games. Outside of Ikard, both Missouri State and Miami had more experience on their offensive lines.
This Oklahoma team is not the threat offensively that they were a year ago. Not with the line play they had plus the presence of Broyles. Sure, their wide receivers are more skilled and better athletes than our secondary but it still calls for chemistry with their QB and execution by their offensive line. You can't simply throw talent on the field and it works like a machine.
Saying OU isn't the threat they were last year is like saying The Hulk slimmed down a bit. OU was the #5 offense in the country. They are currently slumming it up at #11 (admittedly, it's a small sample size). Also, OU's defense was #55 overall last year, it's #10 now (sorry Venzy).
Where OU has gotten "weaker" from last year, we haven't gotten better (i.e. OU's passing vs. our secondary, OU's line vs. our DL, specifically DT/NT) and where we are stronger, it appears OU has gotten stronger (i.e. our offense vs. OU's defense). I think OU will make more of an effort to run the ball against us, which will force us into coverages that will highlight our weaknesses in our secondary. Also, I think OU will try to match their RB against our LB/Safeties like MIami did, only I don't think their RB's will drop the passes that Duke did. While it might be "closer" than last year, it won't end up close. OU +17.
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OU defense is not better this year they haven't played in the spread happy big 12 yet, also Venzy > Mike, mike didn't have to deal with the bulk of spread teams in the offensive roided Big 12.
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The point of being a fan of a team is that you get some sort of enjoyment from it. JFC some of you negative assholes don't seem to get any enjoyment from being a Wildcat fan, and even more you try to stomp out the enjoyment of others. Why even bother getting up in the morning?
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btw, North Texas returned 4 of 5 starters on the offensive line with 56 starts between them. Thompson completed 58% of his passes a year ago. One might think if we didn't press the issue and played soft coverage he might be capable of hitting receivers underneath.
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they :runaway: can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Guys...you missed the point of this post.
Obv his putting BOOMER at the bottom of the post is Oklaquaeda code for a bomber to blow himself up!!!
:ohno: :runaway:
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I just won't torture myself by thinking that we're going to win all week and then watch us lose. Won't do it.
come on meister put your KITN cup in and get back in there. We need you with hatter whippin' up the anger so we are ready to tear apart anything in crimson by Saturday evening.
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I've decided that I won't be nervous. K-State doesn't get to play in games this big every year, so goddammit I'm going to enjoy this.
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I've decided that I won't be nervous. K-State doesn't get to play in games this big every year, so goddammit I'm going to enjoy this.
yup, enjoy the crap out of this 'meister. dunno how some can enjoy the sour without the sweet
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Will not, not be nervous...wish i could say the same APCmeister
I've decided that I won't be nervous. K-State doesn't get to play in games this big every year, so goddammit I'm going to enjoy this.
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Gets lonely out there in the panhandle, does it?
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Will not, not be nervous...wish i could say the same APCmeister
I've decided that I won't be nervous. K-State doesn't get to play in games this big every year, so goddammit I'm going to enjoy this.
"Night before a big exam" nervous or "black guy passing me on the sidewalk" nervous?
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Will not, not be nervous...wish i could say the same APCmeister
I've decided that I won't be nervous. K-State doesn't get to play in games this big every year, so goddammit I'm going to enjoy this.
"Night before a big exam" nervous or "black guy passing me on the sidewalk" nervous?
:lol:
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Gets lonely out there in the panhandle, does it?
Ha
You stay cute, I live in the metro.
I'm not flaming here.
I was just looking at the game analysis you guys were laying down and you were leaving out some key dynamics.
I hope it's a brawl and y'all come out and stomp on the 50. I love games like this.
I'll be in the south endzone losing my mind.
I'm just saying expect a fight if you want to beat us.
This is the first real test for either team and the opener for what the B12 is going to be like all year, for all the teams.
OU and it's fans are ready to go, I want y'all the same way.
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I'm not flaming here.
I was just looking at the game analysis you guys were laying down and you were leaving out some key dynamics.
I hope it's a brawl and y'all come out and stomp on the 50. I love games like this.
I'll be in the south endzone losing my mind.
I'm just saying expect a fight if you want to beat us.
This is the first real test for either team and the opener for what the B12 is going to be like all year, for all the teams.
OU and it's fans are ready to go, I want y'all the same way.
Check "Is it morning?" thread for tips on how to do a Haiku. This one is pretty bad.
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Gets lonely out there in the panhandle, does it?
Ha
You stay cute, I live in the metro.
I'm not flaming here.
I was just looking at the game analysis you guys were laying down and you were leaving out some key dynamics.
I hope it's a brawl and y'all come out and stomp on the 50. I love games like this.
I'll be in the south endzone losing my mind.
I'm just saying expect a fight if you want to beat us.
This is the first real test for either team and the opener for what the B12 is going to be like all year, for all the teams.
OU and it's fans are ready to go, I want y'all the same way.
Don't do it SoonerInjun!!!
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WudUp Injun, Boomer.
I was going to leave a video for you mildcats to ponder but your fisherprice web site wont embed you tube.
So here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUlytoa1vzc&feature=player_embedded
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WudUp Injun, Boomer.
I was going to leave a video for you mildcats to ponder but your fisherprice web site wont embed you tube.
So here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUlytoa1vzc&feature=player_embedded
Ponder this, bad person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF3Z2wqemms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF3Z2wqemms)
What is it, you might ask? Only the most reputable youtube sports preview series on the planet picking the Cats to win, no problem. :dance:
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WudUp Injun, Boomer.
I was going to leave a video for you mildcats to ponder but your fisherprice web site wont embed you tube.
So here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUlytoa1vzc&feature=player_embedded
17-14 :gocho:
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WudUp Injun, Boomer.
I was going to leave a video for you mildcats to ponder but your fisherprice web site wont embed you tube.
So here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUlytoa1vzc&feature=player_embedded
17-14 :gocho:
Goddamit, that tank/boat float was rough ridin' incredible.
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WudUp Injun, Boomer.
I was going to leave a video for you mildcats to ponder but your fisherprice web site wont embed you tube.
So here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUlytoa1vzc&feature=player_embedded
Ponder this, bad person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF3Z2wqemms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF3Z2wqemms)
What is it, you might ask? Only the most reputable youtube sports preview series on the planet picking the Cats to win, no problem. :dance:
I mean....It looks like he rented a suit and hung up a wrinkly tarp with graphics on it in his garage.
He used a Walmart 32" tv and didn't even give a score.
Soo... meh on your video.
21-38 imo
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Gets lonely out there in the panhandle, does it?
Ha
You stay cute, I live in the metro.
I'm not flaming here.
I was just looking at the game analysis you guys were laying down and you were leaving out some key dynamics.
I hope it's a brawl and y'all come out and stomp on the 50. I love games like this.
I'll be in the south endzone losing my mind.
I'm just saying expect a fight if you want to beat us.
This is the first real test for either team and the opener for what the B12 is going to be like all year, for all the teams.
OU and it's fans are ready to go, I want y'all the same way.
does oklahoma have a metro? this is a serious question, I've never been. I just can't think of any pro sports teams down there. guess I always thought norman was a smaller town?
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I ask because I'm not very edgy myself...
How come opposing fans that try to be edgy here are often so terrible at it?
TIA
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Gets lonely out there in the panhandle, does it?
Ha
You stay cute, I live in the metro.
I'm not flaming here.
I was just looking at the game analysis you guys were laying down and you were leaving out some key dynamics.
I hope it's a brawl and y'all come out and stomp on the 50. I love games like this.
I'll be in the south endzone losing my mind.
I'm just saying expect a fight if you want to beat us.
This is the first real test for either team and the opener for what the B12 is going to be like all year, for all the teams.
OU and it's fans are ready to go, I want y'all the same way.
does oklahoma have a metro? this is a serious question, I've never been. I just can't think of any pro sports teams down there. guess I always thought norman was a smaller town?
Wudup Lulzi.....I mean why so emawtional bro. :gocho:
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Norman is in the OKC metro.
OKC is set up like a miniature Dallas with a quicker interstate system.
You can literally get to down town okc from almost anywhere in the metro in 20 minutes, inlcuding Norman.
Norman has like 200,000 ppl in it now but campus is like it's own little town in the old part of Norman.
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Gets lonely out there in the panhandle, does it?
Ha
You stay cute, I live in the metro.
I'm not flaming here.
I was just looking at the game analysis you guys were laying down and you were leaving out some key dynamics.
I hope it's a brawl and y'all come out and stomp on the 50. I love games like this.
I'll be in the south endzone losing my mind.
I'm just saying expect a fight if you want to beat us.
This is the first real test for either team and the opener for what the B12 is going to be like all year, for all the teams.
OU and it's fans are ready to go, I want y'all the same way.
does oklahoma have a metro? this is a serious question, I've never been. I just can't think of any pro sports teams down there. guess I always thought norman was a smaller town?
Wudup Lulzi.....I mean why so emawtional bro. :gocho:
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Norman is in the OKC metro.
OKC is set up like a miniature Dallas with a quicker interstate system.
You can literally get to down town okc from almost anywhere in the metro in 20 minutes, inlcuding Norman.
Norman has like 200,000 ppl in it now but campus is like it's own little town in the old part of Norman.
huh. well I guess you learn something new every day. what does OKC stand for?
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Gets lonely out there in the panhandle, does it?
Ha
You stay cute, I live in the metro.
I'm not flaming here.
I was just looking at the game analysis you guys were laying down and you were leaving out some key dynamics.
I hope it's a brawl and y'all come out and stomp on the 50. I love games like this.
I'll be in the south endzone losing my mind.
I'm just saying expect a fight if you want to beat us.
This is the first real test for either team and the opener for what the B12 is going to be like all year, for all the teams.
OU and it's fans are ready to go, I want y'all the same way.
does oklahoma have a metro? this is a serious question, I've never been. I just can't think of any pro sports teams down there. guess I always thought norman was a smaller town?
Wudup Lulzi.....I mean why so emawtional bro. :gocho:
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Norman is in the OKC metro.
OKC is set up like a miniature Dallas with a quicker interstate system.
You can literally get to down town okc from almost anywhere in the metro in 20 minutes, inlcuding Norman.
Norman has like 200,000 ppl in it now but campus is like it's own little town in the old part of Norman.
huh. well I guess you learn something new every day. what does OKC stand for?
SRS... I figure a smart moderator like yourself can figure out what it stands for.
Heres a map of the metro Norman is on the bottom.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okladot.state.ok.us%2Fhqdiv%2Fp-r-div%2Fmaps%2Fstatemap%2Fjpgs%2Fokc-metro.jpg&hash=5d0cc346a6f94d2ebc1f2f003530a001700c94ee)
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Norman is the Anti-College town. Kind of like Louisville.
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sooner injun don't fall for the trap, they get really butthurt around here and think that wichita is a great place to live
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sooner injun don't fall for the trap, they get really butthurt around here and think that wichita is a great place to live
more like bitchita! haha
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soonerinjun,
with all due respect i think everyone here gets that OU will attempt to spread us out and get better athletes in space for match up issues. But that isn't always easier said than done. If that were the case OU would have won the league a year ago and definitely would not have been rendered totally inept in games like Oklahoma State. Even in the Iowa game OU had plenty of struggles offensively. If it were that easy Florida State wouldn't have gone through their downturn in recent years and, well, Miami would have kicked our asses up and down the field.
I think you get the point.
We understand the dynamics you pointed out and that is why there are plenty on this board who make the general assumption OU will win going away. That may indeed prove to be accurate.
I am of the belief that things have changed along both sides of the line for both teams since we last met. I think two of the biggest factors that determined last year's matchup was our general lack of athleticism along the offensive line matched up with your pass rushers. When we needed to pass we simply couldn't buy any time. If you remove the sacks, we ran the ball extremely well. But, facing a deficit, we were forced into completing some passes.
The other major difference is the changes along your offensive line, the absence of Broyles, and your pass rushing set. I am not sold on your running game...it didn't exist until late vs. UTEP and the other example is against Florida A&Whatever.
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omg he just posted a map :lol:
great work gfa
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omg he just posted a map :lol:
great work gfa
:lol:
also lol at OKCat coming to the defense of his favorite team
:lol:
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I'm going to help you guys out so you're not surprised come gameday.
We have are own Locket, his name is Roy Finch. We have a scheme in a 4 receiver set where him and Stills both play slot.
Finch is a running back, If he gets behind your LB's he will gash you 8-14 yrd's a pop.
You guys haven't mentioned our running game either. D.Williams(new guy) is a 215 pound power back with 6 TD's this season.
One for 65 and one for 89.
Expect man to man coverage and 8 in the box. The D will pound on Klein early let him get 7 yrds instead of 4 so they can Load up for a big hit
to wear him down later in the game.
We don't really have a offensive scheme per se. We are just going to line up athlete for athlete and see where you cant compete.
I hope it's good game but you emaws better come ready for war. There is no rolling over in Norman against ranked opponents.
BOOMER
Gets lonely out there in the panhandle, does it?
Ha
You stay cute, I live in the metro.
I'm not flaming here.
I was just looking at the game analysis you guys were laying down and you were leaving out some key dynamics.
I hope it's a brawl and y'all come out and stomp on the 50. I love games like this.
I'll be in the south endzone losing my mind.
I'm just saying expect a fight if you want to beat us.
This is the first real test for either team and the opener for what the B12 is going to be like all year, for all the teams.
OU and it's fans are ready to go, I want y'all the same way.
does oklahoma have a metro? this is a serious question, I've never been. I just can't think of any pro sports teams down there. guess I always thought norman was a smaller town?
Wudup Lulzi.....I mean why so emawtional bro. :gocho:
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Norman is in the OKC metro.
OKC is set up like a miniature Dallas with a quicker interstate system.
You can literally get to down town okc from almost anywhere in the metro in 20 minutes, inlcuding Norman.
Norman has like 200,000 ppl in it now but campus is like it's own little town in the old part of Norman.
huh. well I guess you learn something new every day. what does OKC stand for?
SRS... I figure a smart moderator like yourself can figure out what it stands for.
Heres a map of the metro Norman is on the bottom.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okladot.state.ok.us%2Fhqdiv%2Fp-r-div%2Fmaps%2Fstatemap%2Fjpgs%2Fokc-metro.jpg&hash=5d0cc346a6f94d2ebc1f2f003530a001700c94ee)
wow, an airport! does american fly there?
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omg he just posted a map :lol:
great work gfa
:lol:
also lol at OKCat coming to the defense of his favorite team
:lol:
shocking.
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omg he just posted a map :lol:
great work gfa
:lol:
also lol at OKCat coming to the defense of his favorite team
:lol:
i'm a man of the people, stevedave.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.tauntr.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2FSoonerPie.jpg&hash=fc98b833b2b98caa51c83711e201a20c8597a352)
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sonofdaxjones is to KU as OK Cat is to OU.
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OKC is set up like a miniature Dallas with a quicker interstate system.
What in the world does this mean, exactly?
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soonerinjun,
with all due respect i think everyone here gets that OU will attempt to spread us out and get better athletes in space for match up issues. But that isn't always easier said than done. If that were the case OU would have won the league a year ago and definitely would not have been rendered totally inept in games like Oklahoma State. Even in the Iowa game OU had plenty of struggles offensively. If it were that easy Florida State wouldn't have gone through their downturn in recent years and, well, Miami would have kicked our asses up and down the field.
I think you get the point.
We understand the dynamics you pointed out and that is why there are plenty on this board who make the general assumption OU will win going away. That may indeed prove to be accurate.
I am of the belief that things have changed along both sides of the line for both teams since we last met. I think two of the biggest factors that determined last year's matchup was our general lack of athleticism along the offensive line matched up with your pass rushers. When we needed to pass we simply couldn't buy any time. If you remove the sacks, we ran the ball extremely well. But, facing a deficit, we were forced into completing some passes.
The other major difference is the changes along your offensive line, the absence of Broyles, and your pass rushing set. I am not sold on your running game...it didn't exist until late vs. UTEP and the other example is against Florida A&Whatever.
Ah appreciator of the game, I see.
I think I speak for Sooner Nation when I say ....Pfftt Miami.
That's like comparing a Ford to a Lexus.
So yes we will most definitely do what Miami attempted to do.
Except our running backs don't drop balls,our receivers and backs are better and we have Landry.
If you're relying on Miami for confidence then it's going to be a long Saturday for you.
Now the lines is indeed where the story of the game ultimately will unfold. You're absolutely right about these two teams being different from last yr in that regard. I think by now the B12 bro's would have learned that OU being down does not mean we are out. On the contrary, we use coaching and our athletes to find innovative ways to limit the effects of our weaknesses.
I think this is what you will see on Saturday. We have a large playbook we can utilize to give Landry time and room to throw, and of course we will try to run to further isolate your secondary.
I think on defense we all know whats coming from the Sooners for the most part. It will be combination packages to keep your OC guessing and
we'll take any big hit we can get.
This game will be about who can make the other team play it's tempo first. Given the advantages OU has this go around I think it's fair to say
This game is our's to lose.
I agree with your assessment that the lines will decide the game though. I'm confident we will play to our strengths and overcome Snyders superior O line. It's the only real matchup advantage you have on us and I don't believe it will be enough.
Should be a great game.
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Is playing dumb Emaws idea of trolling?
You're still children in that regard I guess. Enjoy the map.
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Will you guys stomp on Klein again if you get a chance?
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WudUp Injun, Boomer.
I was going to leave a video for you mildcats to ponder but your fisherprice web site wont embed you tube.
So here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUlytoa1vzc&feature=player_embedded
17-14 :gocho:
Goddamit, that tank/boat float was rough ridin' incredible.
:gocho: :gocho: :gocho:
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Imagine how good you'd be if you had Klein or Sams at qb!
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sonofdaxjones is to KU as OK Cat is to OU.
confirmed, hate those guys so much.
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soonerinjun,
with all due respect i think everyone here gets that OU will attempt to spread us out and get better athletes in space for match up issues. But that isn't always easier said than done. If that were the case OU would have won the league a year ago and definitely would not have been rendered totally inept in games like Oklahoma State. Even in the Iowa game OU had plenty of struggles offensively. If it were that easy Florida State wouldn't have gone through their downturn in recent years and, well, Miami would have kicked our asses up and down the field.
I think you get the point.
We understand the dynamics you pointed out and that is why there are plenty on this board who make the general assumption OU will win going away. That may indeed prove to be accurate.
I am of the belief that things have changed along both sides of the line for both teams since we last met. I think two of the biggest factors that determined last year's matchup was our general lack of athleticism along the offensive line matched up with your pass rushers. When we needed to pass we simply couldn't buy any time. If you remove the sacks, we ran the ball extremely well. But, facing a deficit, we were forced into completing some passes.
The other major difference is the changes along your offensive line, the absence of Broyles, and your pass rushing set. I am not sold on your running game...it didn't exist until late vs. UTEP and the other example is against Florida A&Whatever.
Ah appreciator of the game, I see.
I think I speak for Sooner Nation when I say ....Pfftt Miami.
That's like comparing a Ford to a Lexus.
So yes we will most definitely do what Miami attempted to do.
Except our running backs don't drop balls,our receivers and backs are better and we have Landry.
If you're relying on Miami for confidence then it's going to be a long Saturday for you.
Now the lines is indeed where the story of the game ultimately will unfold. You're absolutely right about these two teams being different from last yr in that regard. I think by now the B12 bro's would have learned that OU being down does not mean we are out. On the contrary, we use coaching and our athletes to find innovative ways to limit the effects of our weaknesses.
I think this is what you will see on Saturday. We have a large playbook we can utilize to give Landry time and room to throw, and of course we will try to run to further isolate your secondary.
I think on defense we all know whats coming from the Sooners for the most part. It will be combination packages to keep your OC guessing and
we'll take any big hit we can get.
This game will be about who can make the other team play it's tempo first. Given the advantages OU has this go around I think it's fair to say
This game is our's to lose.
I agree with your assessment that the lines will decide the game though. I'm confident we will play to our strengths and overcome Snyders superior O line. It's the only real matchup advantage you have on us and I don't believe it will be enough.
Should be a great game.
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Is playing dumb Emaws idea of trolling?
You're still children in that regard I guess. Enjoy the map.
Have you driven a Ford lately?
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Man. I have not been around OU fans for a long time. This takes me back. Also reminds me that TE Brannon Green's dad was my sister's high school softball coach (was a good dude, though).
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Bob Stoops hates and despises LHCBS, Manhattan and the color purple:
K-State Sports Extra
STOOPS HOLDS GREAT APPRECIATION FOR SNYDER
Sept. 20, 2012
By Mark Janssen
Today, Oklahoma football coach Bob Stoops still calls former Florida coach Steve Spurrier the best he's ever been associated with. But because of his tie with coach LHC Bill Snyder, he quickly adds, "I gained an appreciation for attention to detail and everyday persistence in getting the job done one way or the other every single day."
That association started in 1982 when Stoops was the team MVP and an All-American defensive back for the Iowa Hawkeyes when he practiced against Snyder's offense every day. Later he was an Iowa graduate assistant prepping his defense against Snyder's offensive attack on a daily basis.
Fast forward to 1989 and it was Stoops, a youngster coaching at Kent State, that Snyder called on to be a part of his first Kansas State coaching staff.
"He came from a football family and was in it for the long haul," said Snyder of the hire. "I always liked the way he would compete. It was probably a hard choice for Bobby because he could have looked at Kansas State as maybe one of those dead-end programs."
But to hear Stoops, who was then just 28 years of age, tell it, "I looked at it as an incredible opportunity. That's how naïve I was. I came from the Big Ten and we didn't keep up on that many Big 8 teams. I had no idea how bad it was at K-State. Losing never entered my mind because of my belief in coach Snyder. He didn't lose."
What Stoops later found out is that he was indeed rolling the dice on his coaching career going to a school that had lost 13 games in a row, was 0-26-1 in the last 27 games, and in Big 8 play had gone 0-18-1 in its last 19 starts.
Now a 52-year-old, Stoops reflects on the K-State program of 23 years ago, "It's impossible to describe how it was in words. I just couldn't give the situation justice. People have no idea how beat up the program was. The facilities were so poor, the community attitude toward the players was so bad, and we didn't have players."
Emphasizing, "This is the truth," he added, "We went through that first spring camp with four defensive linemen and two of those were not on scholarship. That's all we had. We would stop practice to hose them off, they'd catch their breath, and we would start all over again. Honestly, there's no way to describe how bad it was."
Stoops coached at K-State through the 1995 season when the Wildcats won 28 games in his final three seasons and started the run of bowl games that first took the team to the Copper, Aloha and Holiday bowls.
He would go on to be Spurrier's defensive coordinator at Florida where the Gators won the 1996 national title, and then he became the head coach at Oklahoma in 1999 and won the national crown in 2000.
Now into his 14th season with the Sooners, the two-time National Coach of the Year has won 141 games, which includes victories in the Orange, Rose, Fiesta, Cotton, Holiday, Insight and Sun Bowls, plus the victory over Florida State in the Sugar Bowl that wrapped up a national title.
All of that, yet Stoops says, "I honestly tell people today that one of my all-time favorite victories in coaching was that first win with Kansas State (20-17 over North Texas State in 1989). That win ranks up there with most any of them. I've never been around kids, or a community, that needed a win so badly."
K-State had opened the 1989 season with losses to Arizona State (31-0), Northern Iowa (10-8) and Northern Illinois (37-20), and trailed North Texas State 17-13 after the Mean Green completed a deep ball over Stoops' secondary.
"We had the game won and then all of a sudden the ball flies over every defender we had and we were behind. At that moment I thought that maybe this program was cursed," said Stoops of the Wildcats, who had lost 16 games in a row and owned a record of 0-28-1 over the previous two-plus seasons at that point. "We came back and won it on the last play of the game. I went from being as disappointed as I've ever been, to as elated as I've ever been."
Of that youthful staff that included snagging Nick Quartaro from Drake, to Tom Grogan from being in human resources for the Black and Veatch Architecture firm in Kansas City, to John Latina from Temple, to Mike Nelson from San Diego State and Kevin Ramsey of Indiana State, Stoops said, "An older coaching staff might have given up earlier, but we had a young staff that was naïve, which in this instance helped us. We knew we were going to win. We hadn't done anything else."
K-State went 1-10 the first year, but then jumped to five wins in 1990 and a remarkable seven in 1991. During Stoops' final four seasons at K-State as defensive coordinator, the Wildcats won 5, 9 9 and 10 games. Two of those 33 victories came in bowl games - the 1993 Copper Bowl and 1995 Holiday Bowl.
"I'm not surprised how fast it happened because coach Snyder was in charge," said Stoops, who owns a personal 7-1 record against his former boss. "In our (staff) eyes, we were not going to be denied. That was just our collective attitude because we knew what he (Snyder) was all about. We would have been surprised had we not won."
While rivals on Saturday in Norman in the 6:50 p.m., start, the two remain very close as was demonstrated this summer when Snyder was the guest of Stoops at Country Stampede where they enjoyed the personal company of Toby Keith.
Would Snyder have taken time to relax at such a gathering 20-plus years ago, Stoops grinned as he said, "I'm not sure if I should answer that." Laughing he added, "Probably not."
We hope you enjoy K-State Sports Extra. We would like to hear your comments and any story ideas for future emails, so fire them our way. Contact either Mark Janssen or Kansas State Assistant AD for Communications Kenny Lannou.
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I ask because I'm not very edgy myself...
How come opposing fans that try to be edgy here are often so terrible at it?
TIA
To be fair, we have years of experience.
I was pretty bad when I first started out on ksufans.
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Bob Stoops hates and despises LHCBS, Manhattan and the color purple:
K-State Sports Extra
STOOPS HOLDS GREAT APPRECIATION FOR SNYDER
Sept. 20, 2012
By Mark Janssen
Today, Oklahoma football coach Bob Stoops still calls former Florida coach Steve Spurrier the best he's ever been associated with. But because of his tie with coach LHC Bill Snyder, he quickly adds, "I gained an appreciation for attention to detail and everyday persistence in getting the job done one way or the other every single day."
That association started in 1982 when Stoops was the team MVP and an All-American defensive back for the Iowa Hawkeyes when he practiced against Snyder's offense every day. Later he was an Iowa graduate assistant prepping his defense against Snyder's offensive attack on a daily basis.
Fast forward to 1989 and it was Stoops, a youngster coaching at Kent State, that Snyder called on to be a part of his first Kansas State coaching staff.
"He came from a football family and was in it for the long haul," said Snyder of the hire. "I always liked the way he would compete. It was probably a hard choice for Bobby because he could have looked at Kansas State as maybe one of those dead-end programs."
But to hear Stoops, who was then just 28 years of age, tell it, "I looked at it as an incredible opportunity. That's how naïve I was. I came from the Big Ten and we didn't keep up on that many Big 8 teams. I had no idea how bad it was at K-State. Losing never entered my mind because of my belief in coach Snyder. He didn't lose."
What Stoops later found out is that he was indeed rolling the dice on his coaching career going to a school that had lost 13 games in a row, was 0-26-1 in the last 27 games, and in Big 8 play had gone 0-18-1 in its last 19 starts.
Now a 52-year-old, Stoops reflects on the K-State program of 23 years ago, "It's impossible to describe how it was in words. I just couldn't give the situation justice. People have no idea how beat up the program was. The facilities were so poor, the community attitude toward the players was so bad, and we didn't have players."
Emphasizing, "This is the truth," he added, "We went through that first spring camp with four defensive linemen and two of those were not on scholarship. That's all we had. We would stop practice to hose them off, they'd catch their breath, and we would start all over again. Honestly, there's no way to describe how bad it was."
Stoops coached at K-State through the 1995 season when the Wildcats won 28 games in his final three seasons and started the run of bowl games that first took the team to the Copper, Aloha and Holiday bowls.
He would go on to be Spurrier's defensive coordinator at Florida where the Gators won the 1996 national title, and then he became the head coach at Oklahoma in 1999 and won the national crown in 2000.
Now into his 14th season with the Sooners, the two-time National Coach of the Year has won 141 games, which includes victories in the Orange, Rose, Fiesta, Cotton, Holiday, Insight and Sun Bowls, plus the victory over Florida State in the Sugar Bowl that wrapped up a national title.
All of that, yet Stoops says, "I honestly tell people today that one of my all-time favorite victories in coaching was that first win with Kansas State (20-17 over North Texas State in 1989). That win ranks up there with most any of them. I've never been around kids, or a community, that needed a win so badly."
K-State had opened the 1989 season with losses to Arizona State (31-0), Northern Iowa (10-8) and Northern Illinois (37-20), and trailed North Texas State 17-13 after the Mean Green completed a deep ball over Stoops' secondary.
"We had the game won and then all of a sudden the ball flies over every defender we had and we were behind. At that moment I thought that maybe this program was cursed," said Stoops of the Wildcats, who had lost 16 games in a row and owned a record of 0-28-1 over the previous two-plus seasons at that point. "We came back and won it on the last play of the game. I went from being as disappointed as I've ever been, to as elated as I've ever been."
Of that youthful staff that included snagging Nick Quartaro from Drake, to Tom Grogan from being in human resources for the Black and Veatch Architecture firm in Kansas City, to John Latina from Temple, to Mike Nelson from San Diego State and Kevin Ramsey of Indiana State, Stoops said, "An older coaching staff might have given up earlier, but we had a young staff that was naïve, which in this instance helped us. We knew we were going to win. We hadn't done anything else."
K-State went 1-10 the first year, but then jumped to five wins in 1990 and a remarkable seven in 1991. During Stoops' final four seasons at K-State as defensive coordinator, the Wildcats won 5, 9 9 and 10 games. Two of those 33 victories came in bowl games - the 1993 Copper Bowl and 1995 Holiday Bowl.
"I'm not surprised how fast it happened because coach Snyder was in charge," said Stoops, who owns a personal 7-1 record against his former boss. "In our (staff) eyes, we were not going to be denied. That was just our collective attitude because we knew what he (Snyder) was all about. We would have been surprised had we not won."
While rivals on Saturday in Norman in the 6:50 p.m., start, the two remain very close as was demonstrated this summer when Snyder was the guest of Stoops at Country Stampede where they enjoyed the personal company of Toby Keith.
Would Snyder have taken time to relax at such a gathering 20-plus years ago, Stoops grinned as he said, "I'm not sure if I should answer that." Laughing he added, "Probably not."
We hope you enjoy K-State Sports Extra. We would like to hear your comments and any story ideas for future emails, so fire them our way. Contact either Mark Janssen or Kansas State Assistant AD for Communications Kenny Lannou.
i'm so sick of this crap. stoops hasn't been here in 40 years. mark jansen, the d.scott of an older generation.
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Guys, Soonerinjun says that they have a large playbook that they can utilize. Do you hear that......LARGE!!!
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I'm confident we will play to our strengths and overcome Snyders superior O line. It's the only real matchup advantage you have on us and I don't believe it will be enough.
Ah, yes, having a superior O-line doesn't mean jack when you're playing the Sooners. I guess being able to run the ball to set up the pass won't have any effect on OU's superior athletes and coaching. Pffft, can't wait for that game Saturday.
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Stoops is such rough ridin' trash. I remember how much I wanted to just punch him in the face last year.
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I'm confident we will play to our strengths and overcome Snyders superior O line. It's the only real matchup advantage you have on us and I don't believe it will be enough.
Ah, yes, having a superior O-line doesn't mean jack when you're playing the Sooners. I guess being able to run the ball to set up the pass won't have any effect on OU's superior athletes and coaching. Pffft, can't wait for that game Saturday.
It's like you mildcat homers are incapable of learning from the past.
Having a better o-line is not enough.
I see injun all ready broke it down for you so I'm not going to expand on his thoughts.
Vegas knows whats up, all the sport writers know whats up too. Emam is overmatched and going down.....again.
Enjoy our fight song on Saturday.
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ESPN loves our nuts.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/ (http://espn.go.com/college-football/)
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ESPN loves our nuts.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/ (http://espn.go.com/college-football/)
A little late WildlukeNkilt.
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mildcat
BULLETIN BOARD MATERIAL
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I'm confident we will play to our strengths and overcome Snyders superior O line. It's the only real matchup advantage you have on us and I don't believe it will be enough.
Ah, yes, having a superior O-line doesn't mean jack when you're playing the Sooners. I guess being able to run the ball to set up the pass won't have any effect on OU's superior athletes and coaching. Pffft, can't wait for that game Saturday.
It's like you mildcat homers are incapable of learning from the past.
Having a better o-line is not enough.
I see injun all ready broke it down for you so I'm not going to expand on his thoughts.
Vegas knows whats up, all the sport writers know whats up too. Emam is overmatched and going down.....again.
Enjoy our fight song on Saturday.
3 things:
1. Thanks for posting, we're super glad you stopped by
2. Injun's breakdown was that the OU offense has no plan and will figure out on the fly because they're so athletic, not worried.
3. Ts and Ps to you and your family. I hear diabetes is really rough.
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I'm confident we will play to our strengths and overcome Snyders superior O line. It's the only real matchup advantage you have on us and I don't believe it will be enough.
Ah, yes, having a superior O-line doesn't mean jack when you're playing the Sooners. I guess being able to run the ball to set up the pass won't have any effect on OU's superior athletes and coaching. Pffft, can't wait for that game Saturday.
It's like you mildcat homers are incapable of learning from the past.
Having a better o-line is not enough.
I see injun all ready broke it down for you so I'm not going to expand on his thoughts.
Vegas knows whats up, all the sport writers know whats up too. Emam is overmatched and going down.....again.
Enjoy our fight song on Saturday.
Do you have any players specifically I should expect to attempt to stomp on Collin Klein's sternum?
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Enjoy our fight song on Saturday.
:barf: Why do you retards play it so much during games?
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Do you have any players specifically I should expect to attempt to stomp on Collin Klein's sternum?
I always thought you guys were joking about this. Did he step on him? yes.
I would have been upset too. It was hardly intentional though. He even tried to reach out to him when he
realized he might be hurt and the ref waived him off.
See:
http://vimeo.com/44147221
So no,nobody is head hunting Klein that I know of.
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Why do you retards play it so much during games?
It's all explained in this chart.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lsjvebSZ1a1r0pkq6o1_500.png&hash=ce68e6b79cc6d7ed6aaaa1839df6814468a53402)
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Do you have any players specifically I should expect to attempt to stomp on Collin Klein's sternum?
I always thought you guys were joking about this. Did he step on him? yes.
I would have been upset too. It was hardly intentional though. He even tried to reach out to him when he
realized he might be hurt and the ref waived him off.
See:
http://vimeo.com/44147221
So no,nobody is head hunting Klein that I know of.
:curse: :curse: :curse: WATCHING THAT MADE ME REALLY :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :curse:
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Why do you retards play it so much during games?
It's all explained in this chart.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lsjvebSZ1a1r0pkq6o1_500.png&hash=ce68e6b79cc6d7ed6aaaa1839df6814468a53402)
No I get that you DO play it all the time. That chart does not tell me WHY.
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rough ridin' ALEXANDER :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw:
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Do you have any players specifically I should expect to attempt to stomp on Collin Klein's sternum?
I always thought you guys were joking about this. Did he step on him? yes.
I would have been upset too. It was hardly intentional though. He even tried to reach out to him when he
realized he might be hurt and the ref waived him off.
See:
http://vimeo.com/44147221
So no,nobody is head hunting Klein that I know of.
:curse: :curse: :curse: WATCHING THAT MADE ME REALLY :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :curse:
Yeah eff that guy.
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For a minute I thought Venzy was yelling at him, would have made me feel a little better, but no!. :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :curse: :curse:
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Why do you retards play it so much during games?
It's all explained in this chart.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lsjvebSZ1a1r0pkq6o1_500.png&hash=ce68e6b79cc6d7ed6aaaa1839df6814468a53402)
No I get that you DO play it all the time. That chart does not tell me WHY.
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I'm confident we will play to our strengths and overcome Snyders superior O line. It's the only real matchup advantage you have on us and I don't believe it will be enough.
Ah, yes, having a superior O-line doesn't mean jack when you're playing the Sooners. I guess being able to run the ball to set up the pass won't have any effect on OU's superior athletes and coaching. Pffft, can't wait for that game Saturday.
It's like you mildcat homers are incapable of learning from the past.
Having a better o-line is not enough.
I see injun all ready broke it down for you so I'm not going to expand on his thoughts.
Vegas knows whats up, all the sport writers know whats up too. Emam is overmatched and going down.....again.
Enjoy our fight song on Saturday.
3 things:
1. Thanks for posting, we're super glad you stopped by
2. Injun's breakdown was that the OU offense has no plan and will figure out on the fly because they're so athletic, not worried.
3. Ts and Ps to you and your family. I hear diabetes generational alcoholism is really rough.
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yawn. game won on the line. a beauty.
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SHOCKING!
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i think that north texas game mumped us, if we could have played OU riding the momentum of the miami game i think we could have cruised against ou. I still honestly think we win but its a toss up i see it resembling the osu game last year but we make enough plays to win. not having broyles is huge and they really only have stills (minus a player we could make look like a 1st rounder as we do on occasion) our defense overall is better than last year and anyone with a pulse knows that if ou gets inside the 5 they are going to give it to that bad person from carroll so all we have to do is stack the box ala miami last year. we need some things to go our way but if we dont turn the ball over we win. they are crap at special teams cant stop the run and landry has looked like crap, they get back 1 player from suspension. people saying we dont have a chance are obviously blind
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yawn. game won on the line. a beauty.
Yes, it was a wonderful site.
And nice job by Coach Hayes.
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two main differences from a year ago and both surround the play of the line:
1) KSU is far more athletic up front on offense than a year ago. We had zero issues going without a TE in a number of passing situations against Miami. Not only is the difference in capabilities visible but it is demonstrated by the coaches' confidence in formations. OU is NOT as imposing in terms of the pass rush this year. Alexander and Ronnell Lewis were very good collegiate pass rushers and they don't have anybody, at least prepared to play, at their level. This match up last year was a monstrous edge for OU last year and certainly impacted the game significantly.
2) OU has surrendered 6 sacks in the first two games. Last year they gave up about 8 or 9, total. They lost their stud LT, starting center, and a guard who, if he wasn't a starter, saw significant minutes. While KSU doesn't have a bunch of pass rushers I think we have demonstrated from the Miami game that we have some capabilities in that area...at least a little more than a year ago.
This is more like 2a but I will keep harping on this point. OU, even with the veteran line LAST YEAR, has not been the same since Broyles got hurt last year. Broyles was that security blanket with whom Landry had a lot of chemistry. They have struggled since and it continued into their first game this year. They were not the same offense that put 58 points on the board last year AFTER he got hurt.
OU still has better talent, will be playing at home, has more skill...but there are some match ups in this game which are becoming more clear that would lend itself to a very competitive game.
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yawn. game won on the line. a beauty.
And nice job by Coach Hayes.
twas thinking about you on a few of those coverage packages where Landry looked lost. Hilarious.
Tom Hayes is pretty good.
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I thought it was a well called game, however we seemed to not want to make an adjustment on one particular play that OU ran, I would bet 5 times during the game and I’m willing to bet 4 of them were successful. One back, four receivers (doubles to each side), motion RB away (Arthur follows back), to the left side of OU’s formation, the outside WR slides underneath and curls about 10yds, inside runs a seam or post route (can’t remember which). Our corners never sagged to the inside. I would have thought they would have adjusted, somewhat, to that action.
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yawn. game won on the line. a beauty.
And nice job by Coach Hayes.
twas thinking about you on a few of those coverage packages where Landry looked lost. Hilarious.
Tom Hayes is pretty good.
Did OU call all their def. timeouts when K-State was lined up in an empty set?
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yawn. game won on the line. a beauty.
And nice job by Coach Hayes.
twas thinking about you on a few of those coverage packages where Landry looked lost. Hilarious.
Tom Hayes is pretty good.
Did OU call all their def. timeouts when K-State was lined up in an empty set?
4 and one on a 2pt conversion
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You know what. We are going to win.
we're going to win.
nailed it with my analysis!
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Twas
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