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Title: "The Play"
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: slobber on September 08, 2012, 05:09:39 PM
It would have been so awesome
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Cire on September 08, 2012, 05:12:24 PM
I can't even fathom the meeting where it was decided that that one was in the play book.  Synder must have lost a bet or something.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 08, 2012, 05:12:38 PM
It would have been so awesome

understatement
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: kim carnes on September 08, 2012, 05:47:23 PM
the play is so bad its on the front page of yahoo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/see-worse-play-college-football-effort-kansas-state-180849533--ncaaf.html
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: hemmy on September 08, 2012, 05:59:43 PM
the play is so bad its on the front page of yahoo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/see-worse-play-college-football-effort-kansas-state-180849533--ncaaf.html

 :lol: :dance: :lol:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 08, 2012, 06:00:30 PM
I was admittedly pissed. But Snyder knew we had this one in the bag. he drew that one up at 1 AM one night at Vanier, no doubt.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Frankenklein on September 08, 2012, 06:10:00 PM
   
Just like the media to focus on that play in an attempt to downplay our dominance  :curse:
Oh well at least it's something other teams will have to think about
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: hemmy on September 08, 2012, 06:10:45 PM
I bet we run that play 13 times vs KU.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 08, 2012, 06:14:02 PM
It's so funny because that's so unlike Snyder. Especially in a non-con game in which we're up by 3 TD's at the time. Makes me think we have some really, REALLY good ones in the bag, ya know?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: wetwillie on September 08, 2012, 06:25:18 PM
It was an intentionally botched trick play in circumstances where it shouldnt be attempted. it was a dead horses head in the stoops bros bed type of message.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: sys on September 08, 2012, 06:38:13 PM
they should run at least one play like that every drive.  fball would be an interesting game if teams did fun stuff.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: CHONGS on September 08, 2012, 06:40:32 PM
it was a good idea

coaches will have to be aware of that wrinkle
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 08, 2012, 06:50:19 PM
Yeah, kind of confused why this was such a big deal. If it would have worked, it would have been an easy TD.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: SEK_EMAW on September 08, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
I think it was such a big deal because it was so far outside the realm of LHC Bill Snyder.  I'm still not convinced that Harper and Klein didn't draw it up in the huddle.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: j-dub on September 08, 2012, 07:26:31 PM
i liked it. maybe try a statue of liberty type handoff instead..

but at the very least it'll be in the back of people's minds.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: doom on September 08, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
I like that we designed a pass from Harper. 
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 08, 2012, 07:58:50 PM
the play is so bad its on the front page of yahoo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/see-worse-play-college-football-effort-kansas-state-180849533--ncaaf.html

Haters gonna hate
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2012, 08:14:02 PM
More than anything else it was funny.  Maybe Bill did it as a practical joke on the fans?  Like a "I got your nose" type thing?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 08, 2012, 08:41:02 PM
The real question is where does it rank on the "Not Top 10?"  :dunno:

Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: BigPapi on September 08, 2012, 09:26:57 PM
I've seen fifteen worse plays in this mizzou game.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 08, 2012, 09:31:36 PM
it was the worst play call ever. it wouldn't have been awesome had it succeeded. thank jesus it was called in a pointless laugher of a noncon game or i would be furious.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2012, 09:34:24 PM
it was the worst play call ever. it wouldn't have been awesome had it succeeded. thank jesus it was called in a pointless laugher of a noncon game or i would be furious.
methinks that's why it was called, bubbles. 
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 08, 2012, 09:42:23 PM
More than anything else it was funny.  Maybe Bill did it as a practical joke on the fans?  Like a "I got your nose" type thing?
hey dlew whats that on your shirt..whooooopp gotcha


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Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 08, 2012, 09:43:58 PM
it was the worst play call ever. it wouldn't have been awesome had it succeeded. thank jesus it was called in a pointless laugher of a noncon game or i would be furious.

you could not be more wrong
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Katpappy on September 08, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
More than anything else it was funny.  Maybe Bill did it as a practical joke on the fans?  Like a "I got your nose" type thing?
hey dlew whats that on your shirt..whooooopp gotcha


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It's not nice to pick on Dlew.  :shakesfist:
Title: "The Play"
Post by: kso_FAN on September 08, 2012, 10:47:01 PM
I thought it was great, would've been fantastic if it has been executed.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 08, 2012, 10:50:26 PM
Would a statue of liberty hand off have been better? Yes, but a no look, behind the back pass would have looked way cooler, if executed!
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 09, 2012, 12:15:27 AM
Would a statue of liberty hand off have been better? Yes, but a no look, behind the back pass would have looked way cooler, if executed!

no.

I thought it was great, would've been fantastic if it has been executed.

no.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 09, 2012, 12:19:21 AM
I think bubbles prefers 2009 K-State football over 2012 K-State football  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 09, 2012, 12:28:29 AM
I think bubbles prefers 2009 K-State football over 2012 K-State football  :horrorsurprise:

did the play lose eff tons of yards or didn't it?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 09, 2012, 02:09:55 AM
I think bubbles prefers 2009 K-State football over 2012 K-State football  :horrorsurprise:

did the play lose eff tons of yards or didn't it?

It lost, "eff ton of yards" and "Can't Tell He" missed the field goal but I absolutely want that in the playbook when we play OU.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 09, 2012, 02:12:42 AM
I like to think wild bill has had that in his playbook 20 years and busted it out tonight because this team is special. He has 100 more like them
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: jtksu on September 09, 2012, 02:26:58 AM
The only thing that pisses me off about that play is that it didnt work.  Had it worked, it would have been all over Sportscenter and teams would have tried to copy it left and right. (Like the tebow jump pass)  Now, some other team will execute it long before Snyder is willing to tr i again and that team will steal all our thunder.
Title: "The Play"
Post by: steve dave on September 09, 2012, 07:46:07 AM
Pretty great
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2012, 08:25:38 AM
an obvious shot at vaughn scribner

scribner, check mate.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Fldermaus on September 09, 2012, 08:45:46 AM
The only thing that pisses me off about that play is that it didnt work.  Had it worked, it would have been all over Sportscenter and teams would have tried to copy it left and right. (Like the tebow jump pass)  Now, some other team will execute it long before Snyder is willing to tr i again and that team will steal all our thunder.

+ if it had worked, it would have been the signature play to impress Heisman voters who never watched a KSU game.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bucket on September 09, 2012, 09:12:21 AM
The only thing that pisses me off about that play is that it didnt work.  Had it worked, it would have been all over Sportscenter and teams would have tried to copy it left and right. (Like the tebow jump pass)  Now, some other team will execute it long before Snyder is willing to tr i again and that team will steal all our thunder.

+ if it had worked, it would have been the signature play to impress Heisman voters who never watched a KSU game.

bingo was his name-o
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Spaces on September 09, 2012, 10:16:46 AM
WE TRIED SOMETHING FUN!  :ksu:
Title: "The Play"
Post by: Pete on September 09, 2012, 10:24:10 AM
Teams now have to prepare for the chance that when we are inside the five, we might chuck the ball back to the 25. 

Well played, Snyder, well played.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: AbeFroman on September 09, 2012, 11:57:16 AM
The best part was trying to figure it out listening to wyattvision. one second wyatt says we're snapping from the one, klein passes to Harper, tackled at the 20.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: DQ12 on September 09, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
The best part was trying to figure it out listening to wyattvision. one second wyatt says we're snapping from the one, klein passes to Harper, tackled at the 20.
Oh gosh, I bet that was a mess.  Would love to hear it.
Title: "The Play"
Post by: steve dave on September 09, 2012, 12:04:57 PM
Was a boss play call. Loved it.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: catzacker on September 09, 2012, 12:25:39 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 09, 2012, 12:28:54 PM
WE TRIED SOMETHING FUN!  :ksu:

Yes spaces. Yes.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 09, 2012, 12:35:54 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.

Well, a reverse hand off doesn't really work because the whole idea of the play is that ck makes it looks like a jump pass playing by running up to the line of scrimmage and fake jumping in the air. I think this issue really separates the goemawers from the potential future tuckers. Snyds never calls that play in a situation were it could lose or win us the game. Just wanted to give teams something else to think about.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 09, 2012, 12:46:31 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.

Well, a reverse hand off doesn't really work because the whole idea of the play is that ck makes it looks like a jump pass playing by running up to the line of scrimmage and fake jumping in the air. I think this issue really separates the goemawers from the potential future tuckers. Snyds never calls that play in a situation were it could lose or win us the game. Just wanted to give teams something else to think about.

are the future tuckers the people who think it's impossible that snyder made a stupid play call?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 09, 2012, 01:18:53 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.

Well, a reverse hand off doesn't really work because the whole idea of the play is that ck makes it looks like a jump pass playing by running up to the line of scrimmage and fake jumping in the air. I think this issue really separates the goemawers from the potential future tuckers. Snyds never calls that play in a situation were it
could lose or win us the game. Just wanted to give teams something else to think about.

are the future tuckers the people who think it's impossible that snyder made a stupid play call?


Hmm. Those people may be uber tuckers. I was thinking more along the lines of the people that even thought it was a big deal. Every cool person around me just thought it was funny/a good try. Tuckers were still complaining about it to me in the port-a-poty line.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2012, 01:20:43 PM
I wish we were good at it.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 09, 2012, 01:44:29 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.

Well, a reverse hand off doesn't really work because the whole idea of the play is that ck makes it looks like a jump pass playing by running up to the line of scrimmage and fake jumping in the air. I think this issue really separates the goemawers from the potential future tuckers. Snyds never calls that play in a situation were it
could lose or win us the game. Just wanted to give teams something else to think about.

are the future tuckers the people who think it's impossible that snyder made a stupid play call?


Hmm. Those people may be uber tuckers. I was thinking more along the lines of the people that even thought it was a big deal. Every cool person around me just thought it was funny/a good try. Tuckers were still complaining about it to me in the port-a-poty line.

It was hilarious, but there was no "good try" about it.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 09, 2012, 01:46:59 PM
Sure there was. It was a good try that we even tried it.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: joda on September 09, 2012, 01:51:50 PM
It might have actually worked if Klein would have faked a throw with the right and flipped it back with the left hand
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 09, 2012, 01:53:12 PM
It might have actually worked if Klein would have faked a throw with the right and flipped it back with the left hand

Yeah, joda.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: p1k3 on September 09, 2012, 02:09:46 PM
Obviously it looked Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and was embarrassing, but if it had worked it would be considered genius. I don't have a problem with that play being called. Not sure if I would want it called in a closer game though, but maybe.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 09, 2012, 02:11:43 PM
Obviously it looked Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and was embarrassing, but if it had worked it would be considered genius. I don't have a problem with that play being called. Not sure if I would want it called in a closer game though, but maybe.

Well dont worry because it never will be.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 09, 2012, 02:16:16 PM
Obviously it looked Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and was embarrassing, but if it had worked it would be considered genius. I don't have a problem with that play being called. Not sure if I would want it called in a closer game though, but maybe.

Had it succeeded it would have made the front page of Yahoo. Is that how you determine genius?

It was hilarious that we tried something that the players drew up while waiting for practice to start against a BCS program, not genius or even creative.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: doom on September 09, 2012, 02:25:34 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.

Had Harper caught it, would he have thrown it or run?  I'm going with tossed it, otherwise a blind pitch is beyond respected. 
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: MadCat on September 09, 2012, 02:54:03 PM
The Option of Liberty play
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 09, 2012, 03:33:13 PM
The Option of Liberty play

Yeah that's good
Title: "The Play"
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2012, 03:54:21 PM
I liked it, kinda seemed cool.  + we're great so who cares?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: steve dave on September 09, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
I liked it, kinda seemed cool.  + we're great so who cares?

pretty much my exact feelings.  it's, like, we're awesome, also check this crap.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2012, 03:57:51 PM
Probably need Sams out there if we're gonna do any spectacular crap.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 09, 2012, 03:58:26 PM
I feel like we U'd the U. like hey we're going to stuff it down your throat and then try some awesome crap as well, now watch me dance  :dance:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: DQ12 on September 09, 2012, 04:00:59 PM
get over it, ging.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: ManBearPig on September 09, 2012, 04:03:35 PM
Probably need Sams out there if we're gonna do any spectacular crap.
I am picturing the next Sams touchdown looking like Jamie Fox in Any Given Sunday when he wins the game by being flipped into the endzone....except #Life will look much sexier.. :love:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 09, 2012, 04:31:05 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against
them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.
Well, a reverse hand off doesn't really work because the whole idea of the play is that ck makes it looks like a
jump pass playing by running up to the line of scrimmage and fake jumping in the air. I think this issue really separates the goemawers from the potential future tuckers. Snyds never calls that play in a situation were it
could lose or win us the game. Just wanted to give teams something else to think about.
are the future tuckers the people who think it's impossible that snyder made a stupid play call?


Hmm. Those people may be uber tuckers. I was thinking more along the lines of the people that even thought it was a big deal. Every cool person around me just thought it was funny/a good try. Tuckers were still complaining about it to me in the port-a-poty line.

It was hilarious, but there was no "good try" about it.

Btw, you did not think it was hilarious. You were furious. Just admit that, then go into your closet,
select your best combination of jeans, tennis shoes, and purple t shirt and tuck that [redacted] in so hard it hurts.
Title: Re: Re: "The Play"
Post by: 8manpick on September 09, 2012, 04:37:20 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against
them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.
Well, a reverse hand off doesn't really work because the whole idea of the play is that ck makes it looks like a
jump pass playing by running up to the line of scrimmage and fake jumping in the air. I think this issue really separates the goemawers from the potential future tuckers. Snyds never calls that play in a situation were it
could lose or win us the game. Just wanted to give teams something else to think about.
are the future tuckers the people who think it's impossible that snyder made a stupid play call?


Hmm. Those people may be uber tuckers. I was thinking more along the lines of the people that even thought it was a big deal. Every cool person around me just thought it was funny/a good try. Tuckers were still complaining about it to me in the port-a-poty line.

It was hilarious, but there was no "good try" about it.

Btw, you did not think it was hilarious. You were furious. Just admit that, then go into your closet,
select your best combination of jeans, tennis shoes, and purple t shirt and tuck that [redacted] in so hard it hurts.

:lol: bubbles the tuck. Such a tuck
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 09, 2012, 04:38:30 PM
does it really take three pages to say, "it would have been awesome had it worked"?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: steve dave on September 09, 2012, 04:42:02 PM
does it really take three pages to say, "it would have been awesome had it worked"?

it was awesome anyway
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 09, 2012, 04:43:09 PM
does it really take three pages to say, "it would have been awesome had it worked"?

it was awesome anyway

yeah, I wasn't even mad.  I was like "whoa what if that had worked"

I was way more mad about letting miami get the FG before half than I was about the option of liberty
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 09, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
our offense does so many cool things and you dumbshits like the play that you can find middle school teams running nationwide every thursday night.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: ManBearPig on September 09, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
I'm sure we'll see a play eerily similar to our Option of Liberty play in one of South Carolinas games this year...Steve Spurrier's notorious for poaching Bill's crazy trick plays..
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: kim carnes on September 09, 2012, 04:46:28 PM
our offense does so many cool things and you dumbshits like the play that you can find middle school teams running nationwide every thursday night.

get lost, tuck
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 09, 2012, 05:05:23 PM
our offense does so many cool things and you dumbshits like the play that you can find middle school teams running nationwide every thursday night.

get lost, tuck

I probably daydream more about offensive innovation than many people who do it for a living. My stance against plays involving no-look, behind-the-back throws is elitist, not tuck.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2012, 05:08:18 PM
our offense does so many cool things and you dumbshits like the play that you can find middle school teams running nationwide every thursday night.

get lost, tuck

I probably daydream more about offensive innovation than many people who do it for a living. My stance against plays involving no-look, behind-the-back throws is elitist, not tuck.

Uppity. -Vaughn Scribner
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: kso_FAN on September 09, 2012, 05:40:10 PM
our offense does so many cool things and you dumbshits like the play that you can find middle school teams running nationwide every thursday night.

Its not like it was completely away from our scheme, not was it just drawn up in the dirt as you imply.

Is the play hard to execute? Yes, the timing must be nearly perfect. But a tight formation with Harper's motion and then the jump pass look set it up perfectly. It was an innovative play because it was a) designed off of something else we already do well and b) a creative way to attack the edge of a defense. Again, I will accept the critique that it was a very tough play to execute because of the nature of the no look pitch, but I applaud creativity that attacks a known weakness in a defense because we had Miami packed tight by the formation and we had successfully run the jump pass last season. Simply not a poorly designed play unless you believe the execution was impossible and I don't believe that to be the case.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
Simply not a poorly designed play unless you believe the execution was impossible and I don't believe that to be the case.

It certainly isn't impossible, but from what we've seen, it's pretty hard.  I suppose if we had crane footage from last week we'd know how successful it had been in practice.  What % do you think we had to have hit in practice for them to feel comfortable breaking it out there?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: wetwillie on September 09, 2012, 06:00:10 PM
Scheme me once, I'm still of the opinion there is a real chance it was botched on purpose. if you thought the call was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) it means you don't think he can make a behind the back pitch, which is actually Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). It basically sends the message to opposing defenses that we have so many weapons we could literally try anything.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 09, 2012, 06:21:13 PM
Scheme me once, I'm still of the opinion there is a real chance it was botched on purpose. if you thought the call was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) it means you don't think he can make a behind the back pitch, which is actually Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). It basically sends the message to opposing defenses that we have so many weapons we could literally try anything.
WTF? you and pike get a room
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: p1k3 on September 09, 2012, 06:24:38 PM
Scheme me once, I'm still of the opinion there is a real chance it was botched on purpose. if you thought the call was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) it means you don't think he can make a behind the back pitch, which is actually Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). It basically sends the message to opposing defenses that we have so many weapons we could literally try anything.
WTF? you and pike get a room

LOL I actually said this to my friend at the game. All part of the scheme.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: SdK on September 09, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
What do we gain by botching it, that we wouldn't gain from it being successful? Making teams think we'll never do it again, so they don't prep for it? Idgi
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: p1k3 on September 09, 2012, 07:28:02 PM
What do we gain by botching it, that we wouldn't gain from it being successful? Making teams think we'll never do it again, so they don't prep for it? Idgi

idk. I'm not the scheme doctor.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: catzacker on September 09, 2012, 07:30:37 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.

Well, a reverse hand off doesn't really work because the whole idea of the play is that ck makes it looks like a jump pass playing by running up to the line of scrimmage and fake jumping in the air. I think this issue really separates the goemawers from the potential future tuckers. Snyds never calls that play in a situation were it could lose or win us the game. Just wanted to give teams something else to think about.

what I meant was, instead of CK "flipping" it backwards, he jumps up but just extends his arm back and lets Harper grab it out of his hand. 
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 09, 2012, 11:05:53 PM
It was a good call - miami would have prepped for the jump pass as we effectively used it last yeat against them in a similar down/distance.  My issue was that the play involved CK flipping it to harper, would have liked to seen a reverse hand off or whatever.

Well, a reverse hand off doesn't really work because the whole idea of the play is that ck makes it looks like a jump pass playing by running up to the line of scrimmage and fake jumping in the air. I think this issue really separates the goemawers from the potential future tuckers. Snyds never calls that play in a situation were it could lose or win us the game. Just wanted to give teams something else to think about.

what I meant was, instead of CK "flipping" it backwards, he jumps up but just extends his arm back and lets Harper grab it out of his hand.

I've run some calculations and your idea defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics.  And then there's the center of gravity issues.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2012, 01:30:36 AM
Okay there were two things that LHOFHCWS did that bothered me a lot more than the option of liberty.

1.  Third quarter.  We were up about 50 bajillion points and Klein runs the ball four straight times without a fullback or tailback and then throws a fade pattern?  Really shitty play calling.
2.  End of third quarter.  Why did we run a play with the play clock off instead of just letting the quarter run out?  Ran an unnecessary extra play the 3rd quarter.

The first thing on this list is similar to the option of liberty, Snyder got really bored and experimental with a big lead.  Klein rushed the ball 7 times in the 3rd quarter.  By comparison Hubert ran it once and Pease only ran it 3 times.  I'd love to know why we thought our QB had to run the ball 7 times in a quarter when the game was very over.

The second thing is something we've seen with Snydes forever and ever.  Dude is completely clueless when it comes to clock management, WITB.

That being said I had a blast,  Also the stadium was loud, I really don't think it would have been louder for a night game, the crowd was awesome.

endrant
Title: "The Play"
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 10, 2012, 07:09:51 AM
Bubbles, kindly shut the eff up.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 10, 2012, 07:14:41 AM
Bubbles, kindly shut the eff up.

I will. I have nothing more to say to you idiots regarding "The Play."
Title: "The Play"
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 10, 2012, 07:18:13 AM
Also, play was definitely not botched on purpose if you go watch Klein's interview about it. Very candid/ashamed LOL about it.

Would love a slow-mo PoetWarrior vid about this though.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: slobber on September 10, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
mods, please auto-correct "the play" to "the option of liberty".
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 10, 2012, 08:56:05 AM
mods, please auto-correct "the play" to "the option of liberty".

"no look, behind-the-back toss-sweep from the two."
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Institutional Control on September 10, 2012, 09:11:06 AM
Is "The Play" on Youtube anywhere? I can't find it.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Spaces on September 10, 2012, 09:25:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eek1IXs_jU
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Institutional Control on September 10, 2012, 09:26:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eek1IXs_jU

Thank you.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: SEK_EMAW on September 10, 2012, 02:09:17 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy148%2Fc_holt%2Fsnyderkleinsmith.png&hash=91f9de5fb9037409c76a0e032fdff22ee41be59c)
I get the feeling that this pic was snapped while these three were talking about the Option of Liberty later in the game.

Or they were discussing how much fun it is to watch #life score TD's.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 10, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eek1IXs_jU

Wow that has a lot of views
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: slobber on September 10, 2012, 04:07:01 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy148%2Fc_holt%2Fsnyderkleinsmith.png&hash=91f9de5fb9037409c76a0e032fdff22ee41be59c)
I get the feeling that this pic was snapped while these three were talking about the Option of Liberty later in the game.

Or they were discussing how much fun it is to watch #life score TD's.
That is such a great effn' picture. Maybe LHC Bill Snyder made a funny married guy sex joke or something.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: deputy dawg on September 10, 2012, 04:07:13 PM
So, the 'Cats did something adventurous with the football, and it didn't work.  It sure sucked the defense deep into the backfield, Harper would have had an easy run down the right sideline had the timing been better.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: SdK on September 10, 2012, 04:08:22 PM
I don't think Wilson is a fan of the play based upon his throwing Harper down at the end.  :lol:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 10, 2012, 04:18:10 PM
Now that I actually watch it closely, it's pretty obvious that Harper wasn't even ready for that pitch coming his way. Hmm...
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2012, 04:23:19 PM
I don't think Wilson Trujillo is a fan of the play based upon his throwing Harper down at the end.  :lol:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: SdK on September 10, 2012, 04:23:25 PM
I think CK just threw it too hard. Needed to be more of a lob, than a shot straight back.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Benja on September 10, 2012, 04:27:08 PM
Well, we're clearly going to need 3 to 4 more pages to hash this all out.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 10, 2012, 04:32:30 PM
Well, we're clearly going to need 3 to 4 more pages to hash this all out.

my opinion that the play was childish and acceptable only for the hilariousness of running it against a BCS team has been validated by all of the confusion over what the eff the play was even supposed to accomplish. in everyone's stupid face. 
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: puniraptor on September 10, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
I don't think Wilson Trujillo is a fan of the play based upon his throwing Harper down at the end.  :lol:

That was a legit tackle. I wonder if he thought he was stopping harper from running even further backwards.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: SdK on September 10, 2012, 04:38:41 PM
I don't think Wilson Trujillo is a fan of the play based upon his throwing Harper down at the end.  :lol:

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 10, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy148%2Fc_holt%2Fsnyderkleinsmith.png&hash=91f9de5fb9037409c76a0e032fdff22ee41be59c)
I get the feeling that this pic was snapped while these three were talking about the Option of Liberty later in the game.

Or they were discussing how much fun it is to watch #life score TD's.

man, whoever took that pic is blessed. Pretty much just photographed bigfoot.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: SwiftCat on September 10, 2012, 05:36:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eek1IXs_jU

Wow that has a lot of views

I'm guessing that was the video linked in the yahoo article. It's hilarious how many views it has.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 10, 2012, 09:10:58 PM
Here's one thing I've always wondered:

Right before we ran "the Play" we called a time out. Right before that timeout as the offense was huddling to call the play and then break the huddle, C Harper was already breaking huddle and getting out to the right side.  There is no way he heard the play call, he was out so soon.  So, I'm thinking "welp we're obviously going to run this here because C Harp doesn't even give a crap."  Then Bill comes running up the sideline and calls timeout.  I'm thinking he did that because C Harp bascially tipped our hand.  Then we run a play designed to go to C Harp.

So I guess what I'm asking is, why do WR's do that?  Isn't it pretty obvoius it won't be a pass play?  Or is it a scheme within a sheme?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 10, 2012, 09:20:20 PM
Here's one thing I've always wondered:

Right before we ran "the Play" we called a time out. Right before that timeout as the offense was huddling to call the play and then break the huddle, C Harper was already breaking huddle and getting out to the right side.  There is no way he heard the play call, he was out so soon.  So, I'm thinking "welp we're obviously going to run this here because C Harp doesn't even give a crap."  Then Bill comes running up the sideline and calls timeout.  I'm thinking he did that because C Harp bascially tipped our hand.  Then we run a play designed to go to C Harp.

So I guess what I'm asking is, why do WR's do that?  Isn't it pretty obvoius it won't be a pass play?  Or is it a scheme within a sheme?

he also did this on his TD.    It's what WRs do....they will look for the ball if it's a hot route.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Trim on September 10, 2012, 10:55:06 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy148%2Fc_holt%2Fsnyderkleinsmith.png&hash=91f9de5fb9037409c76a0e032fdff22ee41be59c)
I get the feeling that this pic was snapped while these three were talking about the Option of Liberty later in the game.

Or they were discussing how much fun it is to watch #life score TD's.
That is such a great effn' picture. Maybe LHC Bill Snyder made a funny married guy sex joke or something.

I'd enjoy a catchacold sig pic version.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Spaces on September 14, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
#1 on Not Top Ten!  :ksu:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: cvmcat on September 14, 2012, 10:15:06 AM
#1 on Not Top Ten!  :ksu:
Which, of course, was the ultimate goal of calling the play in the first place. ;)
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2012, 10:17:16 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy148%2Fc_holt%2Fsnyderkleinsmith.png&hash=91f9de5fb9037409c76a0e032fdff22ee41be59c)
I get the feeling that this pic was snapped while these three were talking about the Option of Liberty later in the game.

Or they were discussing how much fun it is to watch #life score TD's.
That is such a great effn' picture. Maybe LHC Bill Snyder made a funny married guy sex joke or something.

I'd enjoy a catchacold sig pic version.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2012, 10:18:02 AM
OT: i have very LAssistantCoachIQ; who is that on the right?
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 14, 2012, 10:20:39 AM
Michael Smith, WR guy.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Spaces on September 14, 2012, 12:34:18 PM
#1 on Not Top Ten!  :ksu:
Which, of course, was the ultimate goal of calling the play in the first place. ;)
I watched the Not Top 10 in the Union today with some of the players and it was awesome. They were all very :lol:. I was very :love:.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 14, 2012, 12:40:13 PM
#1 on Not Top Ten!  :ksu:
Which, of course, was the ultimate goal of calling the play in the first place. ;)
I watched the Not Top 10 in the Union today with some of the players and it was awesome. They were all very :lol:. I was very :love:.

getting Not Top 10 has soothed my butthurt. what a nice moment for ksu.
Title: Re: "The Play"
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2012, 09:08:28 AM
I want to see the play tonight simply for Gus Johnson's reaction.