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Title: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Kat Kid on September 03, 2012, 07:59:50 PM
in the meantime....
 (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/release/release_20120903aaa.pdf)

Some quick hitters to put in your powercat pipe and puff on:

Since 1990, K-State has won 90% (63-7) against Non-con oppos!
K-State is 4-0 against BCS oppos at home!
Active BCS coaches with more wins than LHC Bill Snyder:  Mack Brown, Frank Beamer, Steve Spurrier.  THATS IT!
Milo still is listed behind Fergie on the Depth Chart.
Tuggle OR Childs is the starting SAM backer.
Will Doerr be back?
Title: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: kso_FAN on September 03, 2012, 08:06:24 PM
I'll try to get something this week.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: catzacker on September 03, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
The Hindenburg on its descent looks in better shape than our D-line. 

And rough ridin' Eric Crouch is in the booth?
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Winters on September 03, 2012, 08:34:25 PM


And rough ridin' Eric Crouch is in the booth?
I wonder how many times he will bash Klein or K-State in general?
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 03, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
I watched the first half of UM's game against BC the other day.  Seems like we should be able to score.  Their frosh RB is really fast.  I bet we try to stop the run and hope the QB makes some mistakes.  Our defense is my biggest concern, and likely will be in most games this year.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: p1k3 on September 03, 2012, 11:25:01 PM
I watched the first half of UM's game against BC the other day.  Seems like we should be able to score.  Their frosh RB is really fast.  I bet we try to stop the run and hope the QB makes some mistakes.  Our defense is my biggest concern, and likely will be in most games this year.

Yeah I watched that too. Basically same as last year. Snyderball them to death in 8 minute chunks and hope that one of his 45 passes is picked. Their RB busted a huge run for a TD. Was very scary. Defense didn't look that great.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: POWL on September 04, 2012, 09:21:03 AM
I watched the first half of UM's game against BC the other day.  Seems like we should be able to score.  Their frosh RB is really fast.  I bet we try to stop the run and hope the QB makes some mistakes.  Our defense is my biggest concern, and likely will be in most games this year.

do not let turn corner...... :ohno:
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: deputy dawg on September 04, 2012, 09:44:57 AM
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Crouch?  Hell, he loves us!
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: cas4ksu on September 04, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
Personally, I think we are going to roll.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 04, 2012, 11:34:30 AM
I'll try to get something this week.

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Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Boom Roasted on September 04, 2012, 12:18:14 PM
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Crouch?  Hell, he loves us!

Over under on the amount of times this picture or video of this play is shown during the broadcast? 

Still will never be a flag though  :dance:
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: EMAWmeister on September 04, 2012, 01:24:42 PM
My favorite part of the Miami/BC game was that BC called a timeout with 15:00 on the clock in the first, before their first offensive play.

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Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 04, 2012, 01:30:51 PM
My favorite part of the Miami/BC game was that BC called a timeout with 15:00 on the clock in the first, before their first offensive play.

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They also ran damn near the same first play that we ran on Miami last year.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Shacks on September 04, 2012, 04:23:54 PM
I like how our preview does not yet have the already-released time and channel of the Oklahoma game (6:30 Fox)
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: kso_FAN on September 06, 2012, 10:16:54 AM
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Crouch?  Hell, he loves us!

Quote
What memories will come back to you when you return to LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium?

It will bring back a lot of memories, for sure. Not great memories, but one that sticks out to me was the facemask no call. But I’m not the kind of guy that holds a grudge. I’m not upset about Kansas State or anything, that’s water under the bridge. I had a fun time playing at Nebraska, and all our games with Kansas State were competitive. My freshman year I was down there and that was a very tough atmosphere to play in on the road. I came back as a junior and it started icing the last 30 minutes of the game. That really made it difficult to come from behind and try to win. I’m 0-for-2 down there, and it will be that way for a long time.

Read more here: http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2012/09/05/a-few-minutes-with-former-nebraska-qb-current-fx-analyst-and-heisman-trophy-winner-eric-crouch/#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: EllToPay on September 06, 2012, 10:23:26 AM
I'll try to get something this week.

still waiting for the chance to scroll straight to the bottom.  :ksu:
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 06, 2012, 10:36:12 AM
I'll try to get something this week.

still waiting for the chance to scroll straight to the bottom.  :ksu:
It's Thursday relax doofus
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 06, 2012, 11:03:27 AM
You know how I know Eric Crouch still holds a grudge about the facemask no call?  That he says he doesn't hold a grudge.  rough ridin' grudge holding little bitch!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: kso_FAN on September 06, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
Point #1 - K-State offense vs Miami defense: (I will be making some points here today/tomorrow instead of a blog preview)

Miami's pass defense looks extremely suspect. Most have seen that Boston College threw for 400+ yards last week, but I think its important to put that into context compared to what kind of passing team BC was last year. In 2011, BC threw for over 200 yards just twice, and both of those were in September. At the end of the year BC threw for 196 yards against Miami. BC's QB Chase Rettig finished 2011 with an average of 165 yards passing a game and 54% completions. He had 441 yards and 63% completions last week. Granted, BC threw the ball 51 times and has a subpar running game, but that amount of passing for a team that was pretty average last year throwing is a real plus for K-State.

We already know the issues Miami had last year defending our running game, and that was while K-State's offense was still figuring things out. Miami allowed no other team to gain more than 5 YPC in any single game and we averaged 6.0 against them in Miami. Our option attack gave them fits and the majority of our running yardage came on option looks. Between read option and speed option we gained over 210 of our 265 yards on the ground and averaged nearly 10 YPC on option run plays.

With our high number of pass attempts, and the growth Klein and our receivers made last year, it looks as though we have a large advantage in this phase of the game. Miami is already working with what looks like a subpar secondary, now they have to contend with how they can add numbers to the box to stop a running game that tore them apart last year, and then manage to deal with a poor pass defense. I look for K-State to have a big day offensively and I'd expect to see 200+ yard on the ground and threw the air against the Hurricane defense. As long as K-State avoids turnovers, scoring in the mid-20s should be the minimum expectation on Saturday.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: CaneLover! on September 06, 2012, 11:57:39 AM
Point #1 - K-State offense vs Miami defense: (I will be making some points here today/tomorrow instead of a blog preview)

Miami's pass defense looks extremely suspect. Most have seen that Boston College threw for 400+ yards last week, but I think its important to put that into context compared to what kind of passing team BC was last year. In 2011, BC threw for over 200 yards just twice, and both of those were in September. At the end of the year BC threw for 196 yards against Miami. BC's QB Chase Rettig finished 2011 with an average of 165 yards passing a game and 54% completions. He had 441 yards and 63% completions last week. Granted, BC threw the ball 51 times and has a subpar running game, but that amount of passing for a team that was pretty average last year throwing is a real plus for K-State.

We already know the issues Miami had last year defending our running game, and that was while K-State's offense was still figuring things out. Miami allowed no other team to gain more than 5 YPC in any single game and we averaged 6.0 against them in Miami. Our option attack gave them fits and the majority of our running yardage came on option looks. Between read option and speed option we gained over 210 of our 265 yards on the ground and averaged nearly 10 YPC on option run plays.

With our high number of pass attempts, and the growth Klein and our receivers made last year, it looks as though we have a large advantage in this phase of the game. Miami is already working with what looks like a subpar secondary, now they have to contend with how they can add numbers to the box to stop a running game that tore them apart last year, and then manage to deal with a poor pass defense. I look for K-State to have a big day offensively and I'd expect to see 200+ yard on the ground and threw the air against the Hurricane defense. As long as K-State avoids turnovers, scoring in the mid-20s should be the minimum expectation on Saturday.

Our main problem is the D/L.  It get's no push.  Our DBs are really young and inexperienced, but talented.  It is virtually impossible to be able to recover receivers when the QB repeatedly has 4+ seconds to get rid of the ball.  If the D/L plays as bad as it did last week, it probaly is a blowout in your favor.

BC also has a new offense, but that isn't an excuse for that performance.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 06, 2012, 11:58:03 AM
The BC quarterback looked pretty good throwing the ball, IMO.  Much better than Klein.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: MadCat on September 06, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Point #1 - K-State offense vs Miami defense: (I will be making some points here today/tomorrow instead of a blog preview)

Miami's pass defense looks extremely suspect. Most have seen that Boston College threw for 400+ yards last week, but I think its important to put that into context compared to what kind of passing team BC was last year. In 2011, BC threw for over 200 yards just twice, and both of those were in September. At the end of the year BC threw for 196 yards against Miami. BC's QB Chase Rettig finished 2011 with an average of 165 yards passing a game and 54% completions. He had 441 yards and 63% completions last week. Granted, BC threw the ball 51 times and has a subpar running game, but that amount of passing for a team that was pretty average last year throwing is a real plus for K-State.

We already know the issues Miami had last year defending our running game, and that was while K-State's offense was still figuring things out. Miami allowed no other team to gain more than 5 YPC in any single game and we averaged 6.0 against them in Miami. Our option attack gave them fits and the majority of our running yardage came on option looks. Between read option and speed option we gained over 210 of our 265 yards on the ground and averaged nearly 10 YPC on option run plays.

With our high number of pass attempts, and the growth Klein and our receivers made last year, it looks as though we have a large advantage in this phase of the game. Miami is already working with what looks like a subpar secondary, now they have to contend with how they can add numbers to the box to stop a running game that tore them apart last year, and then manage to deal with a poor pass defense. I look for K-State to have a big day offensively and I'd expect to see 200+ yard on the ground and threw the air against the Hurricane defense. As long as K-State avoids turnovers,





scoring in the mid-20s should be the minimum expectation on Saturday
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Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: kso_FAN on September 06, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
Our main problem is the D/L.  It get's no push.  Our DBs are really young and inexperienced, but talented.  It is virtually impossible to be able to recover receivers when the QB repeatedly has 4+ seconds to get rid of the ball.  If the D/L plays as bad as it did last week, it probaly is a blowout in your favor.

BC also has a new offense, but that isn't an excuse for that performance.

The DL problems could show in the running game too. If our offensive line can handle your front and get off the the 2nd level/LBs then we'll create even greater running lanes. I also just think the diversity of our running attack makes it tough to stop our running game. I'm probably more interested in how your front 7 performs against our running game than the passing game; the Miami defense simply couldn't handle our option attack last year.

I do think its fair to point to BC changing their offense as contributing to the yards you gave up, especially in the first game of the season.
Title: Re: Miami Preview (_FAN/Manhatter bait thread)
Post by: Trim on September 06, 2012, 12:29:17 PM
Point #1 - K-State offense vs Miami defense: (I will be making some points here today/tomorrow instead of a blog preview)

Pretty smart of you to stay out of Vaughn Scribner's crosshairs.