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Pathetic crooks, criminals, and liars. The Republicans are trying to sweep Ron Paul under the rug and then still expect his supporters to bow down and lick Romney's toes. GMAFB. Yet another reason to stay home in November and not worry about the election.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/republican-convention-ron-paul_n_1822985.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012
TAMPA, Fla. -- A Republican Party procedural committee on Wednesday moved to ensure that supporters of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) would be unable to nominate the congressman from the floor of the GOP convention next week, but ultimately backed away from the measure.
Nonetheless, the deliberations signaled that the Republican Party and Mitt Romney's presidential campaign remain nervous to some degree about the potential for Paul supporters to disrupt the carefully scripted program for the four-day convention next week.
The Republican National Committee Rules Committee considered a motion to change the number of states a candidate needs to nominate him from the floor from five to 10. Paul supporters have captured a large number of delegate seats -- in a few cases the majority -- in at least seven states: Maine, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, Louisiana, Massachusetts, and Oregon.
However, a Paul insider told The Huffington Post that they have a majority of delegates only in three states.
The Paul campaign told CNN that its count indicates that 373 of the 2,286 delegates support Paul. Some of those delegates are bound by state rules to vote for Romney. However, the state rules binding delegates to the presidential nominee do not apply to vice president, leaving open the possibility that Paul delegates could nominate an alternative to Romney's running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) from the floor.
But the Paul insider said that the Texas congressman does not want to be nominated for vice president.
The Romney campaign reached an agreement with the Paul campaign to seat contested delegates in Massachusetts and Louisiana this week, but delegates in Oregon remain contested.
John Ryder, an RNC committeeman from Tennessee, proposed the threshold change from five states to 10 to nominate a candidate from the floor. But Morton Blackwell, a committeeman from Virginia, rose and spoke vigorously in opposition to the measure.
"Increasing it to 10 is I think a choke operation," Blackwell said. "And would discourage people from participating within our Republican Party."
"All we are talking about here -– let's put it frankly -- is the possibility that somebody like Ron Paul would be denied the possibility, after he carried five states, to have his name placed into nomination," Blackwell said. "This is a very bad idea. And we have got to, in this party, treat newcomers fairly."
"This would be taken as a slap in the face to grassroots people," he said.
Ryder agreed to change the number back to five states, but the amendment passed with one change intact: delegates must indicate in writing at least one hour before the vote who they intend to nominate.
That requirement ensures that if delegates who support Paul plan to vote for the Texas congressman -- either for president or vice president -- in the roll call vote of the states, they will have to give the Romney campaign and the RNC advance notice.
Blackwell told The Huffington Post afterward that he felt "very strongly" that the Paul supporters who "play by the rules" need to be treated fairly. He said his own experience as a supporter of Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-Ariz.) in the 1964 presidential election informed this view.
"I've been through this before," the 72-year old Blackwell said. "I was Goldwater's youngest elected delegate in the nation. And people said we were extremists and racists and we could never be incorporated into the party. Wrong."
Ryder said he proposed the rule change because "the function of a convention now is much more about the party expressing its vision for the country."
"So the focus is to get away from some of the residue of the 19 century," he said.
"We're way past the time when you had uncommitted delegates and favored sons and smoke-filled backrooms. So with virtually the delegates coming to the convention bound by state law through either a primary or a caucus, the result is a foregone conclusion," he said.
"If you've got somebody who has five states or six states, and that's all they've got, you know, and the result is a foregone conclusion, and you know who's got a majority because you've counted the votes. ... We already know what the vote count's going to be, so unless you've got a real contest, where you've got two candidates or three candidates who really have a chance of winning, then why do we want to go through the exercise?"
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JFC Pike
:facepalm:
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If he really wanted to help the country, he would go to the democratic convention and run as a democrat.
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If he really wanted to help the country, he would go to the democratic convention and run as a democrat.
:dubious:
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If he really wanted to help the country, he would go to the democratic convention and run as a democrat.
The only repub primary he won was the MN primary, so yeah, you nailed it.
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JFC Pike
:facepalm:
fake sugar dick.
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what the eff
When their candidate received any delegates in the state-by-state roll call, Paul's supporters delivered loud cheers. However, convention organizers ultimately made a decision to stop calling out the Paul delegates.
That decision was met with furious cries from Paul's supporters, who said their voices weren't being heard at the Republican Party's official gathering. When states listed delegate votes for both Romney and Paul, party officials at the podium listed only the votes assigned to Romney, who secured enough delegates Tuesday to officially clinch the GOP nomination.
At one point, delegates from Maine walked off the convention floor in protest of a Republican National Committee decision to replace 10 of the 20 delegates Paul had secured in the state. That move prevented Maine from submitting Paul's name for nomination.
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what the eff
When their candidate received any delegates in the state-by-state roll call, Paul's supporters delivered loud cheers. However, convention organizers ultimately made a decision to stop calling out the Paul delegates.
That decision was met with furious cries from Paul's supporters, who said their voices weren't being heard at the Republican Party's official gathering. When states listed delegate votes for both Romney and Paul, party officials at the podium listed only the votes assigned to Romney, who secured enough delegates Tuesday to officially clinch the GOP nomination.
At one point, delegates from Maine walked off the convention floor in protest of a Republican National Committee decision to replace 10 of the 20 delegates Paul had secured in the state. That move prevented Maine from submitting Paul's name for nomination.
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Yeah, the process is working really well for all of us.
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eff you republicans eff you :curse:
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what the eff
When their candidate received any delegates in the state-by-state roll call, Paul's supporters delivered loud cheers. However, convention organizers ultimately made a decision to stop calling out the Paul delegates.
That decision was met with furious cries from Paul's supporters, who said their voices weren't being heard at the Republican Party's official gathering. When states listed delegate votes for both Romney and Paul, party officials at the podium listed only the votes assigned to Romney, who secured enough delegates Tuesday to officially clinch the GOP nomination.
At one point, delegates from Maine walked off the convention floor in protest of a Republican National Committee decision to replace 10 of the 20 delegates Paul had secured in the state. That move prevented Maine from submitting Paul's name for nomination.
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Yeah, the process is working really well for all of us.
Nothing to see here, move it along. The machine rolls on.
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http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/dean-clancy/romneys-rnc-power-grab-what-happened
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
I agree. I know a lot of people whose order of preference in this election is Paul / Obama / Romney. If he wasn't pro-life it would probably be even more common.
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
This isn't the point.
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
lol at this being your defense
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
I agree. I know a lot of people whose order of preference in this election is Paul / Obama / Romney. If he wasn't pro-life it would probably be even more common.
if a lot of people liked ron paul, then he would get the nomination. but he didn't, because there aren't.
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
I agree. I know a lot of people whose order of preference in this election is Paul / Obama / Romney. If he wasn't pro-life it would probably be even more common.
if a lot of people liked ron paul, then he would get the nomination. but he didn't, because there aren't.
This isn't the case.
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
I agree. I know a lot of people whose order of preference in this election is Paul / Obama / Romney. If he wasn't pro-life it would probably be even more common.
if a lot of people liked ron paul, then he would get the nomination. but he didn't, because there aren't.
This isn't the case.
it is absolutely the case.
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
I agree. I know a lot of people whose order of preference in this election is Paul / Obama / Romney. If he wasn't pro-life it would probably be even more common.
if a lot of people liked ron paul, then he would get the nomination. but he didn't, because there aren't.
This isn't the case.
it is absolutely the case.
No. RP was shut down by the Republican establishment, and are now echoing some of his platform to try and make his followers happy. (which of course is lol)
He has millions of people that like him. He even has a million likes on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/ronpaul
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
I agree. I know a lot of people whose order of preference in this election is Paul / Obama / Romney. If he wasn't pro-life it would probably be even more common.
if a lot of people liked ron paul, then he would get the nomination. but he didn't, because there aren't.
This isn't the case.
it is absolutely the case.
No. RP was shut down by the Republican establishment, and are now echoing some of his platform to try and make his followers happy. (which of course is lol)
He has millions of people that like him. He even has a million likes on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/ronpaul
Yeah, it is the case. When I said a lot of people, I just meant there were several I could think of, not a large percentage of the people I know.
So a few million people like him. There are hundreds of millions that think he is a crazy person.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
nutcases still get to vote and should have their votes and delegates counted. if we start kicking people out of having voting rights for being nutcases, weirdos, dumbasses, losers, etc. it'll end up being me and like 6 other people voting.
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
I agree. I know a lot of people whose order of preference in this election is Paul / Obama / Romney. If he wasn't pro-life it would probably be even more common.
if a lot of people liked ron paul, then he would get the nomination. but he didn't, because there aren't.
This isn't the case.
it is absolutely the case.
No. RP was shut down by the Republican establishment, and are now echoing some of his platform to try and make his followers happy. (which of course is lol)
He has millions of people that like him. He even has a million likes on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/ronpaul
Yeah, it is the case. When I said a lot of people, I just meant there were several I could think of, not a large percentage of the people I know.
So a few million people like him. There are hundreds of millions that think he is a crazy person.
That's still a significant number. The Republicans shunning of grass roots activism is the latest installment of killing Democracy in America.
ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
He's a nut case because people are told that he's a nut case. People have been living in this status quo R vs D system for so long that they don't even know a decent human being when they see one. Now look who we're stuck with. (R) Puppet vs (D) Puppet
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this isnt just about Ron Paul. Its about real people having a voice. The tea party is also pissed about this, and they should be. You can forget about people making a difference. Tea Party -nope. Occupy - see ya. Just take the mainstream bull crap they feed you and shut up
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
lol at this being your defense
Not a defense. Let him leach votes from Obama rather than Romney. Paul is the Dems best friend right now.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
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Yeah, Paul should run as a democrat. He would probably be treated better.
lol at this being your defense
Not a defense. Let him leach votes from Obama rather than Romney. Paul is the Dems best friend right now.
Blame the Republicans not Ron Paul.
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Why have a convention?
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Yeah, it is the case. When I said a lot of people, I just meant there were several I could think of, not a large percentage of the people I know.
So a few million people like him. There are hundreds of millions that think he is a crazy person.
That's still a significant number. The Republicans shunning of grass roots activism is the latest installment of killing Democracy in America.
Absolutely, I agree with that whole-heartedly. Still, he shouldn't get the nomination because he doesn't have enough supporters. He should have all of his delegates counted at the National Convention though.
Somewhat pertinent: political parties are not required to have state by state primaries / delegates choose the candidate are they? Can't a political party just choose its candidate? I know they always do, and it is in the interest of a candidate who is more representative of the party's members to have one, but it isn't actually required by anyone outside of said political party, right?
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Yeah, it is the case. When I said a lot of people, I just meant there were several I could think of, not a large percentage of the people I know.
So a few million people like him. There are hundreds of millions that think he is a crazy person.
That's still a significant number. The Republicans shunning of grass roots activism is the latest installment of killing Democracy in America.
Absolutely, I agree with that whole-heartedly. Still, he shouldn't get the nomination because he doesn't have enough supporters. He should have all of his delegates counted at the National Convention though.
Somewhat pertinent: political parties are not required to have state by state primaries / delegates choose the candidate are they? Can't a political party just choose its candidate? I know they always do, and it is in the interest of a candidate who is more representative of the party's members to have one, but it isn't actually required by anyone outside of said political party, right?
Oh well I guess we're on the same page then. I agree he shouldn't have gotten the nomination, but he did collect a good amount of delegates and even won a few states. The grown up thing to do would be to let him speak at the convention and let his supporters cast delegates in his name.
Instead, the Republitards black mailed him into supporting Romneycrat so he could take part in the convention, and since RP is an honorable man he lol'd and said eff you. Then they go and change the rules so another Ron Paul type candidate will never happen again. Why would any of Paul's supporters vote for Romney after this?
There is absolutely no reason to vote in this presidential election. It's sad that this is what we've come to.
To your second paragraph, i'm not sure. I don't think so. The parties have rules and they make their own rules (and now change them to silence grass roots).
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Instead, the Republitards black mailed him into supporting Romneycrat so he could take part in the convention, and since RP is an honorable man he lol'd and said eff you. Then they go and change the rules so another Ron Paul type candidate will never happen again. Why would any of Paul's supporters vote for Romney after this?
I really enjoyed the Fox News interview yesterday with RP where one of their talking heads was trying to badger Paul into endorsing Romney, or saying he probably would endorse Romney, or saying he would endorse someone, and RP was basically like :dubious: :nono:
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
Paul was given the opportunity to speak. He declined because he didn't want to give a speech that would have to be approved by the Romney campaign. I'm not sure why he would speak at this event, it would be bad for the Republican party and their support of Romney against Obama if Paul got up there and voiced his views which oppose Romney strongly in many ways.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLN-EMAn10c&feature=related
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLN-EMAn10c&feature=related
i think we're not on the same page. i find mormons to be amongst the stupidest, nuttiest people that have ever walked the face of the earth.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLN-EMAn10c&feature=related
i think we're not on the same page. i find mormons to be amongst the stupidest, nuttiest people that have ever walked the face of the earth.
All religions are stupid if you believe only in yourself and that there is nothing after life.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
Paul was given the opportunity to speak. He declined because he didn't want to give a speech that would have to be approved by the Romney campaign. I'm not sure why he would speak at this event, it would be bad for the Republican party and their support of Romney against Obama if Paul got up there and voiced his views which oppose Romney strongly in many ways.
It hurts them worse to give Ron Paul the cold shoulder and alienate all his supporters.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLN-EMAn10c&feature=related
i think we're not on the same page. i find mormons to be amongst the stupidest, nuttiest people that have ever walked the face of the earth.
All religions are stupid
agreed
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLN-EMAn10c&feature=related
i think we're not on the same page. i find mormons to be amongst the stupidest, nuttiest people that have ever walked the face of the earth.
All religions are stupid if you believe only in yourself and that there is nothing after life.
oh sftu. Just because i chose not believe in fair tales does not mean I "believe only in myself". Talk about echoing Bill O'reilly and Rush Limbaugh bull crap.....Christ..
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
Paul was given the opportunity to speak. He declined because he didn't want to give a speech that would have to be approved by the Romney campaign. I'm not sure why he would speak at this event, it would be bad for the Republican party and their support of Romney against Obama if Paul got up there and voiced his views which oppose Romney strongly in many ways.
It hurts them worse to give Ron Paul the cold shoulder and alienate all his supporters.
Worse than if he got up in front of the RNC and said he would not support Romney because he disagrees with him on X, Y, and Z? Because I think that is what would have happened had he been allowed to give his own speech.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
Paul was given the opportunity to speak. He declined because he didn't want to give a speech that would have to be approved by the Romney campaign. I'm not sure why he would speak at this event, it would be bad for the Republican party and their support of Romney against Obama if Paul got up there and voiced his views which oppose Romney strongly in many ways.
It hurts them worse to give Ron Paul the cold shoulder and alienate all his supporters.
Worse than if he got up in front of the RNC and said he would not support Romney because he disagrees with him on X, Y, and Z? Because I think that is what would have happened had he been allowed to give his own speech.
I don't think he would have got up and did that, but we'll never know. It would have been Ron Paul's last time on a major stage. He probably wouldn't try and take the R's down, no matter how sweet it would be. I still say alienating his supporters and the tea party will hurt more in the long run.
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ron paul wasn't screwed out of anything, he's just an old nutcase that a small percentage of people like, and most of those people also happen to be nutcases.
Mitt believes in the Book of Mormon...thats a whole lot crazier than the gold standard.
i find mitt/mormons on even ground with ron paul in the nutcase scale, fwiw
it's weird that the rnc people are trying to portray a solid republican party by not mentioning ron paul, but let's not get carried away with conspiracy talks.
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLN-EMAn10c&feature=related
i think we're not on the same page. i find mormons to be amongst the stupidest, nuttiest people that have ever walked the face of the earth.
All religions are stupid if you believe only in yourself and that there is nothing after life.
That's pretty stupid. I believe in all sorts of stuff besides myself and think religions are stupid. Are you cracking up a bit?
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Ron Paul has very few supporters. It's just that his supporters are loud, obsessed, and treat him like a cult leader. Get over yourselves losers. You lost.
Also nothing would change if Ron Paul was elected president.
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Ron Paul has very few supporters. It's just that his supporters are loud, obsessed, and treat him like a cult leader. Get over yourselves losers. You lost.
Also nothing would change if Ron Paul was elected president.
you're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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Ron Paul has very few supporters. It's just that his supporters are loud, obsessed, and treat him like a cult leader. Get over yourselves losers. You lost.
Also nothing would change if Ron Paul was elected president.
you're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
NOPE.
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When is Ron Paul going to endorse his party's nominee? #soreloser
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When is Ron Paul going to endorse his party's nominee? #soreloser
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His party? The party that took advantage of and shunned him? Get real.
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What is the most annoying thing about all of this is that....even tho you may not agree on the issues... there is no reason a candidate should be treated the way he has. PERIOD. Every candidate should be heard and all options and ideas should be presented to the American People. And its become apparent that this two party system has been hi jacked and that they do not want you to see a different point of view. just republican or democrat thats it! And they do control the media and they do influence the way you think. That is reality. You can just accept it and correct the problem or continue the fantasy world a majority of this board lives in and when the entire society we know it collapses. ( due to the economic collapse) That is why we have fallen into such a hole. We just keep on digging and refuse to look up and see how deep we have dug! And its just a shame we cant even have a fair election in this country. I dont even want to know how big the number of dead people voting for mitt is.
Where are we at now? Well Paul has a slim chance in hell to win if not any. Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 states and the Paul faction could just transfer into the Johnson group and continue the freedom movement. Or we decide between two evils. And in my opinion, Mitt Romney is a better choice than Barry Soeretoro or however its spelled! Barry will destroy America ALOT quicker than Mitt will. All in all, this whole process ( which is the first i have truly followed) is a complete and total FARCE. ITs a joke that we have to put up with this. And im glad that alot of the younger generation can see whats happening. Pike, Heinzballz you guys are great. continue spreading the message of Liberty. Because in the end its all we can do.
Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty- Thomas Jefferson
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http://reason.com/reasontv/2012/08/29/ron-paul-delegates-walk-off-convention-f (http://reason.com/reasontv/2012/08/29/ron-paul-delegates-walk-off-convention-f)
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http://reason.com/reasontv/2012/08/29/ron-paul-delegates-walk-off-convention-f (http://reason.com/reasontv/2012/08/29/ron-paul-delegates-walk-off-convention-f)
Disgusting. What a bunch of rough ridin' snakes.
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If Ron Paul and his deciples hate Republicans so much, why does Ron Paul run as a Republican? If Republicans and democrats are the same, why does Paul choose Republican?
Do the Paulites really think Paul won the party's nomination?
My understanding of the "riff" is that the Paultards tried to mount a hostile takeover with <3% of the delegates (which of course is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)), then accepted some compromise which ultimately placated them.
Hey Paultards, if you want to hold an audience captive so you can make the same rough ridin' rant you've made thousands of times before, either get your own convention or do what other politicians do and buy advertising.
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If Ron Paul and his deciples hate Republicans so much, why does Ron Paul run as a Republican? If Republicans and democrats are the same, why does Paul choose Republican?
Ron Paul is a Republican, and more so than all the other goons. The rest of the party has evolved into racist, bigoted, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) sheep that aren't much different than democrats in many ways. Ron Paul is trying to save the party from itself.
Do the Paulites really think Paul won the party's nomination?
No, you're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) for even asking that
My understanding of the "riff" is that the Paultards tried to mount a hostile takeover with <3% of the delegates (which of course is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)), then accepted some compromise which ultimately placated them.
What's wrong with this? The Ron Paul people tried to play by the rules, and the R's changed the rules because they are hypocrites that hate democracy
Hey Paultards, if you want to hold an audience captive so you can make the same rough ridin' rant you've made thousands of times before, either get your own convention or do what other politicians do and buy advertising.
Ron Paul wasn't trying to hold anyone captive. He was playing by the rules. And also, he did buy advertising. Jesus Christ it's like posting to a wall in here sometimes.
Might as well forget about the Tea Party, or any other grass roots organizing. It's all status quo bull crap, and people like you FSD are the ones just egging it on. Don't expect anything to change or get better. And instead of blaming the D's or the R's or Ron Paul, we should just all blame ourselves.
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If Ron Paul and his deciples hate Republicans so much, why does Ron Paul run as a Republican? If Republicans and democrats are the same, why does Paul choose Republican?
Do the Paulites really think Paul won the party's nomination?
My understanding of the "riff" is that the Paultards tried to mount a hostile takeover with <3% of the delegates (which of course is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)), then accepted some compromise which ultimately placated them.
Hey Paultards, if you want to hold an audience captive so you can make the same rough ridin' rant you've made thousands of times before, either get your own convention or do what other politicians do and buy advertising.
I'm guessing he chose to run as a republican because Obama already had the democratic party's nomination on lock down.
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And instead of blaming the D's or the R's or Ron Paul, we should just all blame ourselves.
Pretty much. Most of America's problems are caused because the average American is a dumbass who has no idea how to make or save money.
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And instead of blaming the D's or the R's or Ron Paul, we should just all blame ourselves.
Pretty much. Most of America's problems are caused because the average American is a dumbass who has no idea how to make or save money.
Yeah.
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And instead of blaming the D's or the R's or Ron Paul, we should just all blame ourselves.
Pretty much. Most of America's problems are caused because the average American is a dumbass who has no idea how to make or save money.
This is a big problem, but the real blame lies with Fannie and Freddy buying any loan that came across their desks. The lenders learned they would accept anything, and allowed ANYBODY or ANYTHING to get a home loan. Whoever allowed this to happen is at fault.
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And instead of blaming the D's or the R's or Ron Paul, we should just all blame ourselves.
Pretty much. Most of America's problems are caused because the average American is a dumbass who has no idea how to make or save money.
This is a big problem, but the real blame lies with Fannie and Freddy buying any loan that came across their desks. The lenders learned they would accept anything, and allowed ANYBODY or ANYTHING to get a home loan. Whoever allowed this to happen is at fault.
Plus Fannie and Freddy (The greatest success stories of all time) were backed by the Fed.
The Hierachy of blame for the housing crisis imo should be like this:
1. The Fed
2. Fannie, Freddy
3. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) politicians (D's, R's, congress, etc)
4. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) people buying homes they can't afford.
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Investment Banking and the shadow cds market played a pretty big roll. Luckily for GS they were well positioned to benefit from the collective stupidity.
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Doesn't football season usually snuff out all this doming? Must be election year bbs'n.
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Most RP supporters are just people that think the federal gov should just get out of everyones way. You say that RP supporters are mostly nutjobs but that isnt the case. Sure, the conspiracy types def. tend to lean towards him, but they are the minority in my experience. Of course, the media tends to highlight them, and deny coverage to everyone else. Similar to how they go out of their way to make him look bad every chance they get.
There is a reason this happens. His ideas threaten both the federal government and the large corporations who are in cahoots with them. He's not a nutjob, but an America with constitutional values isn't going to go over well with all the people with crap-loads of money and power that would be vulnerable in such a case.
The ideas of limited government (both civil and economically speaking) isn't outlandish, it's common sense. The idea of a military that is focused on defense and not offense isn't isolationism, nor is opening up trade to any and all countries.
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Gary Johnson. Continue the liberty movement!
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Gary Johnson. Continue the liberty movement!
oh goddamnit.
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Ron Paul said something about 2016 on Leno last week :emawkid:
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Ron Paul said something about 2016 on Leno last week :emawkid:
Time to pass the torch, Ron.
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Wow, football season made me miss a lot. I'm probably luking this, but I haven't read everything yet, and this thread seems like it would be relevant to cover the following; But has anyone brought up the vote where someone captured video of the speaker reading the voting results off a scripted teleprompter? This happened at the RNC & the DNC btw...
That's your 2 party system for you Paul haters. A system where you're lead to believe you have a voice - but really they make up their own crap regardless of how you feel - and tell you its for your own good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_ylYNbAlY
We need to abolish all political parties.