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Title: helium
Post by: steve dave on August 15, 2012, 02:12:56 PM
did you guys know we are about to run out forever?  seems weird. 
Title: Re: helium
Post by: wes mantooth on August 15, 2012, 02:14:17 PM
i'm assuming this will be the lead story on the Omaha 10 o'clock news tonight
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Post by: michigancat on August 15, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
it all goes into outer space.
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Post by: CNS on August 15, 2012, 02:14:44 PM
Yeah.  What is the projection on time?  Last I saw, it was like 2035 or something.
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Post by: slobber on August 15, 2012, 02:16:33 PM
I thought I read somewhere that they (I don't know who "they" are) were trying to figure out a way to capture the helium at whatever layer of the atmosphere it ends up in? Is this something we need? It seems like something we need. How are we going to pull off that high squeaky voice without it?
Title: Re: helium
Post by: puniraptor on August 15, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
rough ridin' teenagers huffing it all what the hell
Title: Re: helium
Post by: steve dave on August 15, 2012, 02:18:12 PM
I'm going to hoard a bunch and sell it for astronomical prices for rich guy birthday parties
Title: Re: helium
Post by: puniraptor on August 15, 2012, 02:25:31 PM
we can make more helium in nuclear reactors, NBD
Title: Re: helium
Post by: EuroCat on August 15, 2012, 02:27:29 PM
Everybody knows helium rises.....it's prolly in neptune or whatever planet is above earth. We just need to send another one of those rovers or robots to go get it back.
Title: Re: helium
Post by: OK_Cat on August 15, 2012, 02:29:43 PM
someone should just invent a machine that makes it
Title: Re: helium
Post by: steve dave on August 15, 2012, 02:30:37 PM
worst part about this?  not getting to watch stupid NU fans hold onto their balloons for almost an entire half of football

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=233190158
Title: Re: helium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 15, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
I'm going to hoard a bunch and sell it for astronomical prices for rich guy birthday parties

why do you think we're already on pace to run out of it so quickly?  :peek:
Title: Re: helium
Post by: Trim on August 15, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
Pete, bring a bunch more of it to MOAP3.
Title: Re: helium
Post by: _33 on August 15, 2012, 02:52:11 PM
someone should just invent a machine that makes it

I already did but it runs on helium.   :frown:
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Post by: AbeFroman on August 15, 2012, 03:20:41 PM
crap, I'm going to miss those ugly, foil balloons
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 15, 2012, 03:25:35 PM
dammit Obama.
Title: Re: helium
Post by: DQ12 on August 15, 2012, 03:29:15 PM
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The world is running low on helium? Big freaking deal, right? Worst-case scenario, future kids won't ever experience the joy of shelling out $7 for an amusement park balloon, then immediately tripping and seeing it fly away.

Actually, if you have benefited from a piece of technology more complex than a sharp rock tied to a stick, it was probably made with the help of helium. Helium has the lowest boiling point of all materials on Earth, which means it's cooler than a ninja Fonzie in sunglasses. Basically every high-tech industry imaginable has uses for helium, from chilling MRI magnets to producing fiber optics and LCD screens.
Think of it as the Batman of gases -- known for its playful public persona as the stuff that makes you talk like Jennifer Tilly, but secretly a badass vigilante keeping the modern world in one piece. And just like Batman, the government completely doesn't understand it.

After all, if the stuff is running out, the price should be going up, right? And we sure as hell shouldn't be putting it in party balloons.
But according to Nobel Prize winner Robert Richardson, the problem is that the U.S. government is giving away helium like a discount VCR warehouse: as much as it can, as cheap as it can. In 1996, Congress passed a law requiring the U.S. government to sell off our helium stockpile by 2015. This has forced the price of the gas way, way lower than it should be, considering how little of the stuff is actually left in the world (Richardson says a balloon's worth would cost $100 if the market were allowed to set the price).

The U.S. controls more than 80 percent of the world's helium supply, so Richardson says all this sell-off and waste means there's a very real chance we will run out of the gas in fewer than 25 years. If you're one of those people who buys into this whole "technology" fad, that's something to be concerned about.

Fortunately, there's a backup plan: If we run out of mined helium we can always recover it from the atmosphere. That will run us only 10,000 times the current costs.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19048_6-important-things-you-didnt-know-were-running-out-of.html#ixzz23eHKl2Hc (http://www.cracked.com/article_19048_6-important-things-you-didnt-know-were-running-out-of.html#ixzz23eHKl2Hc)
Title: Re: helium
Post by: CNS on August 15, 2012, 03:39:02 PM
Chocolate!!!!!   :ohno:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 15, 2012, 03:43:58 PM
Well, if we're practically giving it away for free, then maybe 10,000x current costs wouldn't be so bad. :dunno:
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 15, 2012, 03:45:43 PM
Saul, scrap those helium based servers stat.
Title: Re: helium
Post by: Rams on August 15, 2012, 05:02:04 PM
I'm going to hoard a bunch and sell it for astronomical prices

holy crap. after reading dlew's article this actually sounds like a pretty solid idea.  :cheese:
Title: Re: helium
Post by: CNS on August 15, 2012, 05:18:15 PM
I'm going to hoard a bunch and sell it for astronomical prices

holy crap. after reading dlew's article this actually sounds like a pretty solid idea.  :cheese:

Yep.  $100 balloons sound great to the guy with a bunch of canisters in his storage area.
Title: Re: helium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 15, 2012, 05:20:13 PM
i've got a detached one car garage at a rental house that we can start storing helium tanks in if we want. thoughts?
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Post by: Brock Landers on August 15, 2012, 05:27:25 PM
Meh, just go back to filling stuff with hydrogen.  What's the worst that could hap........
Title: Re: helium
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 15, 2012, 06:58:22 PM
You'll want to store it super cold and compressed to maximize your material per volume.
Title: Re: helium
Post by: hemmy on August 15, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
i've got a detached one car garage at a rental house that we can start storing helium tanks in if we want. thoughts?

My dad owns an abandoned farm just outside of Salina, if storage gets tight.
Title: Re: helium
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 15, 2012, 07:04:19 PM
i've got a detached one car garage at a rental house that we can start storing helium tanks in if we want. thoughts?

My dad owns an abandoned farm just outside of Salina, if storage gets tight.

Any quail or damned chi-yotes?
Title: Re: helium
Post by: kim carnes on August 15, 2012, 07:50:33 PM
I'm going to hoard a bunch and sell it for astronomical prices for rich guy birthday parties

I've heard a lot of good ideas in my life, but this just may be the best
Title: Re: helium
Post by: slobber on August 24, 2012, 09:37:24 AM
Damn it people! Kyoto University is wasting on one of our natural resources for what? http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/08/24/gibbons-on-helium-trill-like-opera-singers/?intcmp=features
Title: Re: helium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 24, 2012, 11:40:52 AM
Guys if the earth runs out of helium...no big deal.  But if the sun runs out of helium we are all doomed.