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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: TheHamburglar on August 09, 2012, 10:13:19 AM
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As expected, KSU gets 4 Saturday home games with the KU, Texas, and WVU home games during the week. Fan-rough ridin'-tastic.
Saturday, January 5
Oklahoma State at K-State (Big 12 Network) 12:30 p.m.
Saturday, January 12
K-State at West Virginia (Big 12 Network) 12:30 p.m.
Wednesday, January 16
K-State at TCU (ESPNU) 8:00 p.m.
Saturday, January 19
Oklahoma at K-State (Big 12 Network) 3:00 p.m.
Tuesday, January 22
Kansas at K-State (Big 12 Network) 7:00 p.m.
Saturday, January 26
K-State at Iowa State (Big 12 Network) 12:30 p.m.
Wednesday, January 30
Texas at K-State (ESPN2) 8:00 p.m.
Saturday, February 2
K-State at Oklahoma (ESPN2) 5:00 p.m.
Tuesday, February 5
K-State at Texas Tech (Big 12 Network) 7:00 p.m.
Saturday, February 9
Iowa State at K-State (ESPN or ESPN2) 5:00 p.m.
Monday, February 11
K-State at Kansas (ESPN) 8:00 p.m.
Saturday, February 16
Baylor at K-State (ESPNU) 6:00 p.m.
Monday, February 18
West Virginia at K-State (ESPN) 8:00 p.m.
Saturday, February 23
K-State at Texas TBA
Monday, February 25
Texas Tech at K-State (ESPNU) 6:00 p.m.
Saturday, March 2
K-State at Baylor (ESPN2) 6:00 p.m.
Tuesday, March 5
TCU at K-State (Big 12 Network) 7:00 p.m.
Saturday, March 9
K-State at Oklahoma State (Big 12 Network) 12:30 p.m.
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don't see a loss on that schedule.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
doug :D
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T's & P's to the first team that loses to TCU.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
:horrorsurprise:
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The media no longer cares about us and we are just going to have to get used to it for the next few years.
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More favorable travel and good/bad oppenent spacing than last year IMO.
That Big Monday game vs WVU will be great.
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The media no longer cares about us and we are just going to have to get used to it for the next few years.
This Big 12 schedule is about the same as it has been last few years. You could in fact make the case that we get a few breaks, including a home game the saturday before a home Big Monday game, which is very unusual.
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longhorn network? :dubious:
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:runaway:
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i'm not sure what's wrong with that schedule, or exactly how i'm going to do it, but i'm sure there's a way to pin the problem on Currie, Weber, and Snyder (when we're mad at him).
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i'm not sure what's wrong with that schedule, or exactly how i'm going to do it, but i'm sure there's a way to pin the problem on Currie, Weber, and Snyder (when we're mad at him).
Nothing "wrong" with the schedule for the team or anything, just sucks that our 3 biggest home games of the year are in-week. That pretty much kills any chance of me panicking at the last second and renewing my season tickets. With the only Saturday home games being OU, OSU, ISU, and Baylor, I can easily get tickets to 2-3 of those games without there being a 5th Saturday home game ticket to sell to recoup my money.
(Edit: However, after looking at the schedule again, I did catch a big break with the @OU and @OSU games both being on Saturday...thus making it very easy for me to go to 4-5 conference games realitively cheap without buying season tickets.)
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i'm not sure what's wrong with that schedule, or exactly how i'm going to do it, but i'm sure there's a way to pin the problem on Currie, Weber, and Snyder (when we're mad at him).
Nothing "wrong" with the schedule for the team or anything, just sucks that our 3 biggest home games of the year are in-week. That pretty much kills any chance of me panicking at the last second and renewing my season tickets. With the only Saturday home games being OU, OSU, ISU, and Baylor, I can easily get tickets to 2-3 of those games without there being a 5th Saturday home game ticket to sell to recoup my money.
so there you go. if currie gave a crap about ksu hoops he would have ensured at least some of those games were on a saturday just to make sure that people like you and mrs hamburgler renew your season tickets. the dude doesn't even give a crap though and said sure whatever when neines or big12 hoops guy called and asked if he was good with the schedule.
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i'm not sure what's wrong with that schedule, or exactly how i'm going to do it, but i'm sure there's a way to pin the problem on Currie, Weber, and Snyder (when we're mad at him).
Nothing "wrong" with the schedule for the team or anything, just sucks that our 3 biggest home games of the year are in-week. That pretty much kills any chance of me panicking at the last second and renewing my season tickets. With the only Saturday home games being OU, OSU, ISU, and Baylor, I can easily get tickets to 2-3 of those games without there being a 5th Saturday home game ticket to sell to recoup my money.
so there you go. if currie gave a crap about ksu hoops he would have ensured at least some of those games were on a saturday just to make sure that people like you and mrs hamburgler renew your season tickets. the dude doesn't even give a crap though and said sure whatever when neines or big12 hoops guy called and asked if he was good with the schedule.
eff that guy.... :shakesfist:
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From GPC:
Originally posted by snyderkat:
Did our game at Texas get Longhorn Networked?
Originally posted by lotthall:
Two top 10 match-ups would not be a tier 3 game.
Our pro-oscar "The local white kid likes him, therefore I like him" Weber fans are setting themselves up for multiple KITNs on this one.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
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Stanbot
:lol:
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i'm not sure what's wrong with that schedule, or exactly how i'm going to do it, but i'm sure there's a way to pin the problem on Currie, Weber, and Snyder (when we're mad at him).
that only works if you completely forgive all of them within a month and act like you were never mad at them or the situation in the first place, apparently. just fyi if you were really planning on that.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
So a likely matchup between two ranked teams in the Big 12 is going to fall to tier 3, and you don't think the media has stopped caring about us?
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You know who never would have gotten Tier 3'd?
Gottlieb. That's who.
ESPN would be beating down our door to broadcast a practice and air it during primetime.
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i'm not sure what's wrong with that schedule, or exactly how i'm going to do it, but i'm sure there's a way to pin the problem on Currie, Weber, and Snyder (when we're mad at him).
that only works if you completely forgive all of them within a month and act like you were never mad at them or the situation in the first place, apparently. just fyi if you were really planning on that.
i wish this made sense to me but after reading it twice i just can't connect your john nash-ian thoughts anymore.
bottom line is everyone INCLUDING ME! still hates currie, weber, and snyder (only sometimes, when we forget we hate currie more).
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eff. what if The Animal ok'd this schedule? what if currie is setting The Animal up for some sort of fall from grace and he really wants The Animal's job and not some cushy SEC gig, so he sent this over for The Animal's review knowing it'd get rubber stamp approved. THIS IS mumped UP.
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Meek just tweeted that the UT game will be on the Longhorn Network.
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We should probably just be thankful that this game is being televised at all.
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Meek just tweeted that the UT game will be on the Longhorn Network.
Great so like 5000 households will get the game then?
UT better of paid us out the ass to get this game!!!
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cc, what kind of paycheck do we get for playing on the Longhorn network as opposed to Big 12 network?
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Mu fans were right all along. :frown:
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cc, what kind of paycheck do we get for playing on the Longhorn network as opposed to Big 12 network?
Good question!
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i prefer to play on the longhorn network, not sure why anyone would have a problem with this
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i prefer to play on the longhorn network, not sure why anyone would have a problem with this
Do you remember how horrible the Longhorn network was last year for football???
And.... it's over...
It was like the commentator's pet dog had just died. :angry:
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You know who never would have gotten Tier 3'd?
Gottlieb. That's who.
ESPN would be beating down our door to broadcast a practice and air it during primetime.
So rough ridin' this
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
So a likely matchup between two ranked teams in the Big 12 is going to fall to tier 3, and you don't think the media has stopped caring about us?
I guess you're right, after all we've never ever had a Big 12 game fall to Tier 2/3 before, this is a first. Obviously this is because of our head coach.
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i prefer to play on the longhorn network, not sure why anyone would have a problem with this
i'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with it either and couldn't find anyone in this thread that did. what makes you prefer the longhorn network though clams?
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You know who never would have gotten Tier 3'd?
Gottlieb. That's who.
ESPN would be beating down our door to broadcast a practice and air it during primetime.
So rough ridin' this
:dubious:
You knuckleheads realize he isn't with ESPN anymore right?
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You know who never would have gotten Tier 3'd?
Gottlieb. That's who.
ESPN would be beating down our door to broadcast a practice and air it during primetime.
So rough ridin' this
Why continue to dwell on something that was never a realistic option to K-State leadership? Sounds maddening.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
So a likely matchup between two ranked teams in the Big 12 is going to fall to tier 3, and you don't think the media has stopped caring about us?
I guess you're right, after all we've never ever had a Big 12 game fall to Tier 2/3 before, this is a first. Obviously this is because of our head coach.
It's Texas. :flush:
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i prefer to play on the longhorn network, not sure why anyone would have a problem with this
i'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with it either and couldn't find anyone in this thread that did. what makes you prefer the longhorn network though clams?
you should try reading the thread, dumbass
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@WVU, will be there! Can't wait. Still can't believe I will get to see K-State fball every other year and bball every year living here in Pittsburgh.
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i prefer to play on the longhorn network, not sure why anyone would have a problem with this
i'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with it either and couldn't find anyone in this thread that did. what makes you prefer the longhorn network though clams?
you should try reading the thread, dumbass
just did. still don't see any complaints about the longhorn network though. i think your brain is hallucinating perceived slights that aren't there, captain paranoid. tell me what's great about bball on the longhorn network though and why you'd prefer it. i don't think i've ever watched a game on it, so i'm curious as to why someone would prefer it over cbs or espn.
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i prefer to play on the longhorn network, not sure why anyone would have a problem with this
i'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with it either and couldn't find anyone in this thread that did. what makes you prefer the longhorn network though clams?
you should try reading the thread, dumbass
just did. still don't see any complaints about the longhorn network though. i think your brain is hallucinating perceived slights that aren't there, captain paranoid. tell me what's great about bball on the longhorn network though and why you'd prefer it. i don't think i've ever watched a game on it, so i'm curious as to why someone would prefer it over cbs or espn.
wow you're really a huge rough ridin' dumbass, who would have thought? not me. serious here.
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i prefer to play on the longhorn network, not sure why anyone would have a problem with this
i'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with it either and couldn't find anyone in this thread that did. what makes you prefer the longhorn network though clams?
you should try reading the thread, dumbass
just did. still don't see any complaints about the longhorn network though. i think your brain is hallucinating perceived slights that aren't there, captain paranoid. tell me what's great about bball on the longhorn network though and why you'd prefer it. i don't think i've ever watched a game on it, so i'm curious as to why someone would prefer it over cbs or espn.
wow you're really a huge rough ridin' dumbass, who would have thought? not me. serious here.
you forgot the lol emoticon guy. bbs101- call someone a dumbass and throw up the lol emoticon guy when you don't actually have a response. even kim carnes gets this one right. so c+ and class dismissed i guess.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
So a likely matchup between two ranked teams in the Big 12 is going to fall to tier 3, and you don't think the media has stopped caring about us?
I guess you're right, after all we've never ever had a Big 12 game fall to Tier 2/3 before, this is a first. Obviously this is because of our head coach.
It's Texas. :flush:
Exactly. You don't think ESPN wants to give LHN content? But, no, you're right, this is clearly about ESPN not caring about our head coach.
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Personally, even though I dropped my season tickets, I’m kind of disappointed that the marque games are in-week. If the dogs were in-week, it would have probably driven down attendance and then I could have used season attendance as ammo against Webster. Now, I’ll probably have to find something else. Kind of a bummer.
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Personally, even though I dropped my season tickets, I’m kind of disappointed that the marque games are in-week. If the dogs were in-week, it would have probably driven down attendance and then I could have used season attendance as ammo against Webster. Now, I’ll probably have to find something else. Kind of a bummer.
Yep. It's a crap schedule, but I don't blame Weber for that.
Maybe someone knows how we got this crap schedule? Is it just because our overall program is shitty? :dunno:
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
So a likely matchup between two ranked teams in the Big 12 is going to fall to tier 3, and you don't think the media has stopped caring about us?
I guess you're right, after all we've never ever had a Big 12 game fall to Tier 2/3 before, this is a first. Obviously this is because of our head coach.
It's Texas. :flush:
Exactly. You don't think ESPN wants to give LHN content? But, no, you're right, this is clearly about ESPN not caring about our head coach.
like i said, CC, the tin foil hats are strong in this forum. where there's a will, there's a way. blame can and will be assigned.
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Exactly. You don't think ESPN wants to give LHN content? But, no, you're right, this is clearly about ESPN not caring about our head coach.
So are we going to make more than we would have with the Big 12 Network?
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You know who never would have gotten Tier 3'd?
Gottlieb. That's who.
ESPN would be beating down our door to broadcast a practice and air it during primetime.
So rough ridin' this
Why continue to dwell on something that was never a realistic option to K-State leadership? Sounds maddening.
It was mostly tongue-in-cheek.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
Is this an agreement of our TV deals? If something falls to Tier 3, we all get a piece of it? Or does the home team retain all of the rights?
Do we have to get a special waiver or agreement to broadcast a game on Tier 3 if we're the visiting team?
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nothing to see here folks...very comprable to last year really.
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the key take away here is that John Currie, our tightwad, money grubbing AD that he is, has decided to put K-State hoops in a negative cash position by allowing UT to televise our game on the LHN. because that makes perfect sense.
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the key take away here is that John Currie, our tightwad, money grubbing AD that he is, has decided to put K-State hoops in a negative cash position by allowing UT to televise our game on the LHN. because that makes perfect sense.
Because John Currie obviously wants to kill K-State basketball.
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the key take away here is that John Currie, our tightwad, money grubbing AD that he is, has decided to put K-State hoops in a negative cash position by allowing UT to televise our game on the LHN. because that makes perfect sense.
Because John Currie obviously wants to kill K-State basketball.
one word: weber (name)
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the key take away here is that John Currie, our tightwad, money grubbing AD that he is, has decided to put K-State hoops in a negative cash position by allowing UT to televise our game on the LHN. because that makes perfect sense.
Because John Currie obviously wants to kill K-State basketball.
one word: weber (name)
Precisely. John Currie wants to kill K-State basketball.
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we're gonna run off cc again :dubious:
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i prefer to play on the longhorn network, not sure why anyone would have a problem with this
i'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with it either and couldn't find anyone in this thread that did. what makes you prefer the longhorn network though clams?
you should try reading the thread, dumbass
just did. still don't see any complaints about the longhorn network though. i think your brain is hallucinating perceived slights that aren't there, captain paranoid. tell me what's great about bball on the longhorn network though and why you'd prefer it. i don't think i've ever watched a game on it, so i'm curious as to why someone would prefer it over cbs or espn.
wow you're really a huge rough ridin' dumbass, who would have thought? not me. serious here.
you forgot the lol emoticon guy. bbs101- call someone a dumbass and throw up the lol emoticon guy when you don't actually have a response. even kim carnes gets this one right. so c+ and class dismissed i guess.
eff you daris. i frequently have a response when i use this emoticon.
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I'm torn between returning for the KU game or the WVU game.....
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the key take away here is that John Currie, our tightwad, money grubbing AD that he is, has decided to put K-State hoops in a negative cash position by allowing UT to televise our game on the LHN. because that makes perfect sense.
Clams, how do you personally think the schedule wound up like it is? Is it purely random? Could be, I suppose.
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Have you unlucky bastards looked at Weber's offer list lately? Shouldn't he be targeting recruits that are being offered by other top schools?
My advice to you all is to pressure one of the beat reporters into speaking the truth. Our dipshit beat writers Klee and Tate were scared to call a spade a spade and Weber hung on till the bitter end because of it. They even suggested we might do worse than a coach who took the program to the worst 6 year stretch in over 30 years. Hold the beat writers accountable.
Trust me, it won't scare off the recruits Weber is after.
Good luck and go EMAW.
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Hold the beat writers accountable.
Oh boy.
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Have you unlucky bastards looked at Weber's offer list lately? Shouldn't he be targeting recruits that are being offered by other top schools?
My advice to you all is to pressure one of the beat reporters into speaking the truth. Our dipshit beat writers Klee and Tate were scared to call a spade a spade and Weber hung on till the bitter end because of it. They even suggested we might do worse than a coach who took the program to the worst 6 year stretch in over 30 years. Hold the beat writers accountable.
Trust me, it won't scare off the recruits Weber is after.
Good luck and go EMAW.
Thanks. Knowing other Weber-survivors gives us all hope. Feels good, bro.
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Have you unlucky bastards looked at Weber's offer list lately? Shouldn't he be targeting recruits that are being offered by other top schools?
My advice to you all is to pressure one of the beat reporters into speaking the truth. Our dipshit beat writers Klee and Tate were scared to call a spade a spade and Weber hung on till the bitter end because of it. They even suggested we might do worse than a coach who took the program to the worst 6 year stretch in over 30 years. Hold the beat writers accountable.
Trust me, it won't scare off the recruits Weber is after.
Good luck and go EMAW.
Can't find one person who has bad things to say about oscar.
JFC
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Have you unlucky bastards looked at Weber's offer list lately? Shouldn't he be targeting recruits that are being offered by other top schools?
My advice to you all is to pressure one of the beat reporters into speaking the truth. Our dipshit beat writers Klee and Tate were scared to call a spade a spade and Weber hung on till the bitter end because of it. They even suggested we might do worse than a coach who took the program to the worst 6 year stretch in over 30 years. Hold the beat writers accountable.
Trust me, it won't scare off the recruits Weber is after.
Good luck and go EMAW.
Can't find one person who has bad things to say about oscar.
JFC
How closely do the people you have spoken with follow recruiting?
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I am not sure how close Currie follows recruiting. Given the fact that slashing recruiting budgets is his favorite pastime I would guess not very closely.
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SLASHING!
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the key take away here is that John Currie, our tightwad, money grubbing AD that he is, has decided to put K-State hoops in a negative cash position by allowing UT to televise our game on the LHN. because that makes perfect sense.
Clams, how do you personally think the schedule wound up like it is? Is it purely random? Could be, I suppose.
why would i believe it's anything other than a conspiracy?
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the key take away here is that John Currie, our tightwad, money grubbing AD that he is, has decided to put K-State hoops in a negative cash position by allowing UT to televise our game on the LHN. because that makes perfect sense.
Clams, how do you personally think the schedule wound up like it is? Is it purely random? Could be, I suppose.
why would i believe it's anything other than a conspiracy?
I have no idea what you believe, but I was genuinely interested in your honest opinion was.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
Is this an agreement of our TV deals? If something falls to Tier 3, we all get a piece of it? Or does the home team retain all of the rights?
Do we have to get a special waiver or agreement to broadcast a game on Tier 3 if we're the visiting team?
Tier 3 rights are not exclusive windows. We have the right to distribute the game as the visitor however we would like to do so, whether it be a set up like FSN or on the web, it's up to us.
This happens literally every year, at least 1 or 2 conference games end up on Boylevision. Used to be Nebraska or Clones a lot, it isn't unusual. When we have home Boylevision you might notice a second TV crew at the Bram, that would be the visiting team's Tier 3 crew doing the game.
Most schools like having a couple games fall to Tier 3, home or away, because they can turn that into better Tier 3 rights money. Win-win.
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the key take away here is that John Currie, our tightwad, money grubbing AD that he is, has decided to put K-State hoops in a negative cash position by allowing UT to televise our game on the LHN. because that makes perfect sense.
Clams, how do you personally think the schedule wound up like it is? Is it purely random? Could be, I suppose.
why would i believe it's anything other than a conspiracy?
I have no idea what you believe, but I was genuinely interested in your honest opinion was.
my opinion is that it's the same as every other year and if it's different, the reason why it's different has nothing to do with adjc or oscar weber. if, for some reason, we went back and looked at say, our last 10 years worth of schedules, we would see similar years to this one, and the only reason we're having this discussion is because oscar is our coach.
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Clams, you agree with my supposition that the schedule assignment is random?
I personally do not believe it is random, and I attribute it to us being a comparatively less marketable product than others in the conference. But, I agree with you that it has nothing to do with oscar Weber. I think it mostly has to do with us being complete dog crap in basketball for decades...and our agitation over the schedule is a result of a small window of non-dog-shitness that has created a sense of entitlement in our fanbase. go cats
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I think it's partially random, in that certain games are set in advance like Big Mondays and any weird crap like when ku and mizzou would play on cbs at the end of the year. With those set, the rest of them are done by some computer randomizer program (shoutout to when we did the BBBS raffle live on tape from the chef) that has all sorts of criteria about home/away in a row and travel and stuff. Unless we're talking about getting picked for Big Monday or other sorts of special games, I doubt the schedule in general has anything to do with our newfound fondness for chicken nuggets.
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Catzacker had the most meaningful input in this thread, IMO, when he noted that this will likely help fill up the place on midweek games. That's a plus for the athletic department.
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Could that Texas game be CBS?
no
longhorn network?
Likely. We would show it on our TV network as well (last year it was FSN with Ben/Stanbot)
Is this an agreement of our TV deals? If something falls to Tier 3, we all get a piece of it? Or does the home team retain all of the rights?
Do we have to get a special waiver or agreement to broadcast a game on Tier 3 if we're the visiting team?
Tier 3 rights are not exclusive windows. We have the right to distribute the game as the visitor however we would like to do so, whether it be a set up like FSN or on the web, it's up to us.
This happens literally every year, at least 1 or 2 conference games end up on Boylevision. Used to be Nebraska or Clones a lot, it isn't unusual. When we have home Boylevision you might notice a second TV crew at the Bram, that would be the visiting team's Tier 3 crew doing the game.
Most schools like having a couple games fall to Tier 3, home or away, because they can turn that into better Tier 3 rights money. Win-win.
This is awesome to know. I've always been kind of fuzzy on the Tier 3 stuff.
I have no problem with the game being on LHN so long as we have the opportunity to broadcast and monetize that game.
So, that said, is this a K-State HD game or a FSN KC game? Personally, putting it on HD may drive subs up, but we'd probably make more on FSN KC.
I presume it will be blacked out on ESPN 3 (unlike our other Tier 3 games) due to the LHN.
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KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.
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KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.
no crap? that's a pretty good way of doing it.
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KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.
no crap? that's a pretty good way of doing it.
Yeah, that is pretty good.
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KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.
yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.
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KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.
yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.
posting this earlier when some people were getting all butthurt would have been a pretty good idea. just a fwiw.
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There are a handful of parameters and requests
Is an example Big Monday games or other specially set TV games?
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KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.
yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.
hmmm....what else do you know? like, anything that would interest all of us.
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KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.
yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.
posting this earlier when some people were getting all butthurt would have been a pretty good idea. just a fwiw.
I said multiple times that the schedule was basically no different than in years past. Did not know you wanted a breakdown of scheduling mechanics.
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There are a handful of parameters and requests
Is an example Big Monday games or other specially set TV games?
Yes, Big Monday games and national TV games on CBS etc are usually predetermined through the league office and the TV partner before the complete schedule is finalized. Other parameters are more logistical, like not playing too many/few Saturday home games, long home/road trips, stuff like that.
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KSU has a professor whose wife does the schedules for the ACC and MLB (and various other smaller conferences) and his PhD thesis was on scheduling theory. In all most all situations on creating a complex schedule like this, the league has a contract with an independent schedule maker where they are given a specific set of hard criteria they can program with. They supply 8-12 different schedules to the league based off the criteria supplied by the league. Based on that, the schedules they supply are "random" in what their program spits out. However, I'm sure he league looks at what's best for their TV partners when selecting which of those supplied schedules. For example, in the ACC the conference selects their 3 favorites, supply each team with their portion of each, and the schools vote.
yes, this is pretty much the Big 12 system. There are a handful of parameters and requests, computers generate 100s of possibilities, the conference office narrows it down to about 4 or 5 based on what is best for the league and for each school, and then the ADs rank them in order. The option with the best overall ranking is usually set as the final sched. It almost is nevert unanimous, but usually one of them is a clear favorite.
posting this earlier when some people were getting all butthurt would have been a pretty good idea. just a fwiw.
I said multiple times that the schedule was basically no different than in years past. Did not know you wanted a breakdown of scheduling mechanics.
yeah, in the future just assume that nobody here knows how anything works and explain it. 99% of the time that is the case.
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There are a handful of parameters and requests
Is an example Big Monday games or other specially set TV games?
Yes, Big Monday games and national TV games on CBS etc are usually predetermined through the league office and the TV partner before the complete schedule is finalized. Other parameters are more logistical, like not playing too many/few Saturday home games, long home/road trips, stuff like that.
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I think it's partially random, in that certain games are set in advance like Big Mondays and any weird crap like when ku and mizzou would play on cbs at the end of the year. With those set, the rest of them are done by some computer randomizer program (shoutout to when we did the BBBS raffle live on tape from the chef) that has all sorts of criteria about home/away in a row and travel and stuff. Unless we're talking about getting picked for Big Monday or other sorts of special games, I doubt the schedule in general has anything to do with our newfound fondness for chicken nuggets.