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Title: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: chuckjames on August 06, 2012, 09:49:33 PM
I thought I would take Dlews idea and make it only since 1900 since no one really cares or knows about the presidents before then.(other than Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson)

My list
1. George W. Bush-Created the budget mess we are currently in, presided over a war that was started on false pretenses, caused the worst recession since the great depression.
2. Calvin Cooledge-caused the great depression
3. Jimmy Carter-terrible leader, the country lost faith while he was in office.
4 Richard Nixon-anytime you have to resign you make the top 5
5. George H. W. Bush-he really wasnt that bad but i needed someone to be 5 and he obviously sucked if he was voted out after only 4 years.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: _33 on August 06, 2012, 09:51:19 PM
I think the 5 worst presidents were the 5 that were most opposite of my political philosophy.
Title: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: puniraptor on August 06, 2012, 09:52:14 PM
Can you maybe post a list so that I can choose without lookin it up myself
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: OK_Cat on August 06, 2012, 09:54:25 PM
grover cleveland is a dick
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: kim carnes on August 06, 2012, 09:54:35 PM
if anything, george w. bush was the #1 president.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 06, 2012, 09:58:45 PM
Calvin Coolidge did not cause the depression.  You had horrible history teachers. 
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: chuckjames on August 06, 2012, 10:05:17 PM
I would like to amend my list and add Wilson instead of the first bush. And obviously the president gets far too much credit for a growing economy and far to much blame for a recession. so caused is too strong of a word, but cooledge alot like Bush 43 relaxed regulation to the point of it being very bad for the economy. some of the blame for the great depression can also be attributed to the federal reserve since it did not increase the money supply fast enough for fear of devaluing the dollar. 
Title: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: puniraptor on August 06, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
McKinley - Shot to death and died in office.
JFK - Shot to death and died in office.
Coolidge - heart attacked to death in office.
Truman - brain attacked to death in office.
Nixon - Impeached to death and quit.

Dying and lying are terrible policies.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: chuckjames on August 06, 2012, 10:15:12 PM
Calvin Coolidge did not cause the depression.  You had horrible history teachers.

indeed i got my presidents mixed up...it was hoover not cooligde...sorry calvin...i am an idiot and will now put myself in posting timeout for a week.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: kim carnes on August 06, 2012, 10:29:58 PM
I thought I would take Dlews idea and make it only since 1900 since no one really cares or knows about the presidents before then.(other than Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson)

My list
1. George W. Bush-Created the budget mess we are currently in, presided over a war that was started on false pretenses, caused the worst recession since the great depression.
2. Calvin Cooledge-caused the great depression
3. Jimmy Carter-terrible leader, the country lost faith while he was in office.
4 Richard Nixon-anytime you have to resign you make the top 5
5. George H. W. Bush-he really wasnt that bad but i needed someone to be 5 and he obviously sucked if he was voted out after only 4 years.

hey you idiot, poor people torpedoed our economy by taking out loans they couldn't pay back.  goodness, get a clue before posting
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: DQ12 on August 06, 2012, 10:41:22 PM
Why limit since 1900? 

Anyways, yeah Woodrow Wilson was an bad person.  I vote him numero uno.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: wetwillie on August 06, 2012, 11:04:06 PM
it is easily Lyndon Johnson.  On top of being a descendant of a Baylor University president(woof) his alma mater is Texas State(double woof).  He wiretapped MLK(racist), was fat and smelled terrible, vietnam. 
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 06, 2012, 11:04:42 PM
My list, in no particular order:

1. Nixon - Everyone knows why Nixon was a shitty president.

2. Hoover - He was a great man and a great American, who stood for everything the "balanced budget" conservatives claim to stand for but aren't willing to follow through on (cutting government waste, paying for spending with taxes to balance the budget, etc.). His policies were a horrible failure, though, and while it's unfair to say that he created the great depression, his policies made it about 100x worse than it had to be.

3. Harding - Appointed the Ohio Gang to his cabinet and oversaw the most crooked administration the United States has ever had.

4. Carter - Like Hoover, he is a great American and a great human being, but a horrible president. The Iranian Hostage Crisis was just the cherry on top of his 4 year tenure.

5. Coolidge - A firm believer in laissez-faire government, who didn't really do anything of note while in office, and did absolutely nothing to even try to slow the great depression, which came about right as he was leaving office.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 06, 2012, 11:47:51 PM
I thought I would take Dlews idea and make it only since 1900 since no one really cares or knows about the presidents before then.(other than Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson)

My list
1. George W. Bush-Created the budget mess we are currently in, presided over a war that was started on false pretenses, caused the worst recession since the great depression.
2. Calvin Cooledge-caused the great depression
3. Jimmy Carter-terrible leader, the country lost faith while he was in office.
4 Richard Nixon-anytime you have to resign you make the top 5
5. George H. W. Bush-he really wasnt that bad but i needed someone to be 5 and he obviously sucked if he was voted out after only 4 years.

hey you idiot, poor people torpedoed our economy by taking out loans they couldn't pay back.  goodness, get a clue before posting

Here is a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM) that proves who is truly responsible for the collapse.

Another gem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5qKYfqALE).
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: jmlynch1 on August 07, 2012, 12:05:04 AM
 :dubious:
grover cleveland is a dick
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 07, 2012, 01:00:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related)
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 07, 2012, 02:06:16 AM
1. Reagan - exploded the deficit
2. Bush - Iraq
3. Wilson - couldn't join his own peace organization
4. Truman - dumbass couldn't graduate college
5. Taft - fat
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: DQ12 on August 07, 2012, 02:15:18 AM
Ging post.
1. Reagan - exploded the deficit
2. Bush - Iraq
...
5. Taft - fat
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: EMAWmeister on August 07, 2012, 02:23:24 AM
Blows my mind how Chuck can actually make a point in this shitty dunning kruger dome yet be absolutely insufferable on twitter.

This thread has nothing to do with the bolded statement for the record.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: ben ji on August 07, 2012, 08:22:43 AM
I thought I would take Dlews idea and make it only since 1900 since no one really cares or knows about the presidents before then.(other than Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson)

My list
1. George W. Bush-Created the budget mess we are currently in, presided over a war that was started on false pretenses, caused the worst recession since the great depression.
2. Calvin Cooledge-caused the great depression
3. Jimmy Carter-terrible leader, the country lost faith while he was in office.
4 Richard Nixon-anytime you have to resign you make the top 5
5. George H. W. Bush-he really wasnt that bad but i needed someone to be 5 and he obviously sucked if he was voted out after only 4 years.

Any list that doesnt include Harding  :flush:

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Background

In the early 20th century, the U.S. Navy largely converted from coal to oil fuel. To ensure the Navy would always have enough fuel available, several oil-producing areas were designated as Naval Oil Reserves by President Taft. In 1921, President Harding issued an executive order which transferred control of Teapot Dome Oil Field in Natrona County, Wyoming, and the Elk Hills and Buena Vista Oil Fields in Kern County, California from the Navy Department to the Department of the Interior. This order was not implemented until 1922, when Interior Secretary Fall persuaded Navy Secretary Edwin C. Denby to transfer control.

[edit] Single-bid contracts followed by kickbacksLater in 1922, Fall leased the oil production rights at Teapot Dome to Harry F. Sinclair of Mammoth Oil, a subsidiary of Sinclair Oil. He also leased the Elk Hills reserve to Edward L. Doheny of Pan American Petroleum. Both leases were issued without competitive bidding. This manner of leasing was legal under the Mineral Leasing Act of 1920.[3]

The lease terms were very favorable to the oil companies, which secretly made Fall a rich man. Fall had received a no-interest loan from Doheny of $100,000 (about $1.3 million today[4]) in November 1921. He received other gifts from Doheny and Sinclair totaling about $404,000 (about $5.26 million today[4]). It was this money changing hands that was illegal — not the leases. Fall attempted to keep his actions secret, but the sudden improvement in his standard of living prompted speculation
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: OK_Cat on August 07, 2012, 09:34:37 AM
:dubious:
grover cleveland is a dick

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alohaquest.com%2Fimg%2Fgrover_cleveland.jpg&hash=3168120d868baa66be035ad8b16a379f1adcf499)

Hi, I'm Grover Cleveland.  I'm huge and smell like butthole.  My hair is dumb, my 'stache is unkept and my bow-tie makes me look like a jackass.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 07, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
:dubious:
grover cleveland is a dick

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alohaquest.com%2Fimg%2Fgrover_cleveland.jpg&hash=3168120d868baa66be035ad8b16a379f1adcf499)

Hi, I'm Grover Cleveland.  I'm a huge and smell like butthole.  My hair is dumb, my 'stache is unkept and my bow-tie makes me look like a jackass.

He does look like he only stops drinking to pass out.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: kstate16 on August 07, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
anybody that puts Ronald Reagan on this list has Down's.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
Will someone research which party controlled Congress during the tenure of your worst presidents list.

I enjoy political discussion like this.   One minute "Its all the Presidents fault"!!  The next "Well you see the President doesn't have much control over that."

I'll give you a good example.   Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.   Democrats controlled both the White House and Congress in 2008.   Democrats controlled the Senate and the White House in 2010.   How have we been doing since oh . . . 2006 or thereabouts?  How about since 2008??

Remember when Democrats said they were going to pull the troops out of Iraq in 2006?   Tell me, what war spending bills DID not get through Congress between 2006 and 2010?   How about budgets?  Economic legislation? 

Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: OK_Cat on August 07, 2012, 10:38:40 AM
hey dax, who gives a crap.

tell me why grover cleveland isn't a dick
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2012, 10:40:08 AM
hey dax, who gives a crap.

tell me why grover cleveland isn't a dick

Don't care.

Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 07, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
Will someone research which party controlled Congress during the tenure of your worst presidents list.

I enjoy political discussion like this.   One minute "Its all the Presidents fault"!!  The next "Well you see the President doesn't have much control over that."

I tried to limit my criticisms to policy decisions that were actually a direct result of the sitting president rather than things like the economy as a whole, though I was probably slightly unfair to Coolidge in that respect. Hoover deserves all the criticism he gets because he just lacked the leadership to do anything at all to help this country through a very dark period.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: HeinBallz on August 08, 2012, 08:20:57 AM
I thought I would take Dlews idea and make it only since 1900 since no one really cares or knows about the presidents before then.(other than Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson)

My list
1. George W. Bush-Created the budget mess we are currently in, presided over a war that was started on false pretenses, caused the worst recession since the great depression.
2. Calvin Cooledge-caused the great depression
3. Jimmy Carter-terrible leader, the country lost faith while he was in office.
4 Richard Nixon-anytime you have to resign you make the top 5
5. George H. W. Bush-he really wasnt that bad but i needed someone to be 5 and he obviously sucked if he was voted out after only 4 years.

hey you idiot, poor people torpedoed our economy by taking out loans they couldn't pay back.  goodness, get a clue before posting

Here is a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM) that proves who is truly responsible for the collapse.

Another gem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5qKYfqALE).

I didn't watch your video.  Did it talk about Clinton and the Glass Steagall repeal?
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 08, 2012, 09:25:26 AM
I thought I would take Dlews idea and make it only since 1900 since no one really cares or knows about the presidents before then.(other than Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson)

My list
1. George W. Bush-Created the budget mess we are currently in, presided over a war that was started on false pretenses, caused the worst recession since the great depression.
2. Calvin Cooledge-caused the great depression
3. Jimmy Carter-terrible leader, the country lost faith while he was in office.
4 Richard Nixon-anytime you have to resign you make the top 5
5. George H. W. Bush-he really wasnt that bad but i needed someone to be 5 and he obviously sucked if he was voted out after only 4 years.

hey you idiot, poor people torpedoed our economy by taking out loans they couldn't pay back.  goodness, get a clue before posting

Here is a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM) that proves who is truly responsible for the collapse.

Another gem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5qKYfqALE).

I didn't watch your video.  Did it talk about Clinton and the Glass Steagall repeal?

No, but that was certainly part of the problem. Barney Frank is the central figure with lots of quotes claiming fannie and freddie are fine and need to buy up more bad loans so his constituents can get more home loans they can't afford.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: DQ12 on August 08, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
We should limit this to pre Regan so people don't tard up this thread.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 08, 2012, 11:57:53 AM
We should limit this to pre Regan so people don't tard up this thread.

1. Jimmy Carter
2. nm
3. nm
4. nm
5. nm
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: j-dub on August 08, 2012, 12:11:00 PM
1. Woodrow Wilson. (like dlew said, very bad person)
2. Jimmy Carter
.
.
.some order of dubya/obama/nixon
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: mancattanite on August 09, 2012, 12:12:42 AM
Here's my Top 5 BEST Presidents since the greatest country on planet Earth was founded:
1. George Washington
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Franklin D. Roosevelt
4. Thomas Jefferson
5. John F. Kennedy

'Merica.   :woot:
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: DQ12 on August 09, 2012, 12:19:10 AM
start your own thread, dork.  this is about BAD presidents, or as i call them, presi-DONTs.
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: mancattanite on August 09, 2012, 12:34:11 AM
start your own thread, dork.  this is about BAD presidents, or as i call them, presi-DONTs.

Dork? Ouch. I always thought I was a nerd. I might even settle for goofball.  ;)
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2012, 08:53:32 AM
1. Jon Wefald
Title: Re: Top 5 worst President since 1900
Post by: HeinBallz on August 10, 2012, 10:01:36 AM
1. Jon Wefald
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