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Title: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: camKSU on June 15, 2012, 10:01:54 AM
Hey Dudes - So I'm in a little bit of a dilemma here and need some advice...

I work in the architecture industry and recently resigned my position in MHK to take a job closer to home/friends/family in Columbia, MO. It's a good firm with great benefits (i.e. 3 weeks vaca, flex time, comp time, professional support, etc...). Where the mind eff comes in is that two days after accepting the offer for the job in Columbia a firm in San Antonio offered to split the expenses to have me come down for an interview. I have already made the decision to go interview and see what they have to say but I wanted to hear some other people opinions on the two cities...

Any words of wisdom would help a brotha out.

 :combofan:

Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 15, 2012, 10:11:09 AM
san antonio seems pretty great and is really affordable. i'd go there. what is the name of the company you are interviewing with there?
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2012, 10:11:41 AM
tell them you will interview if they pay for all expenses.  splitting them is kinda bush league and seems like a good tell as to what kind of place it would be to work for. 
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2012, 10:13:39 AM
SA 4thewin.  Not even close.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 15, 2012, 10:14:06 AM
tell them you will interview if they pay for all expenses.  splitting them is kinda bush league and seems like a good tell as to what kind of place it would be to work for.

sd brings up a very good point here.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: pissclams on June 15, 2012, 10:24:50 AM


good grief.  you might want to delete that post.  don't say the company name on here :lol:
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2012, 10:24:58 AM
Yep. SA's river walk:  :love:
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2012, 10:28:05 AM
The home/friends/family you left MHK for, taking them to San Antonio?
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: EllToPay on June 15, 2012, 10:33:20 AM
offered to split the expenses to have me come down for an interview.

jfc, dude...
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
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Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: pissclams on June 15, 2012, 10:37:56 AM
definitely don't split the expenses.  if they are serious enough about you as a candidate then they should pay for it.  if they don't want to pay the expenses then go enjoy columbia, mo.

Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 15, 2012, 10:39:03 AM
San Antonio is a big city, and is rapidly expanding. On the other hand, Columbia is a smaller city on the brink of a meth lab holocaust.

Your call though  :popcorn:
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
I would choose Columbia.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2012, 10:42:01 AM
San Antonio is a big city, and is rapidly expanding. On the other hand, Columbia is a smaller city on the brink of a meth lab holocaust.

Your call though  :popcorn:

on the other hand you are pretty much guaranteed to be the smartest person in Columbia
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2012, 10:43:16 AM
definitely don't split the expenses.  if they are serious enough about you as a candidate then they should pay for it.  if they don't want to pay the expenses then go enjoy columbia, mo.

Agreed.  Check out the Columbia La Hacienda and report back.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 15, 2012, 10:43:33 AM
san antonio is 10x better as a city
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: camKSU on June 15, 2012, 10:45:10 AM


good grief.  you might want to delete that post.  don't say the company name on here :lol:

Thanks brah - didn't think that through fully
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: AbeFroman on June 15, 2012, 10:47:15 AM
Splitting expenses is only good when you go to lunch and they order a salad and you order a steak.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: kitten_mittons on June 15, 2012, 10:48:18 AM
So you are moving away from Manhattan to live closer to family in Columbia.  And you are wanting a job in San Antonio?  Why do you hate Manhattan?
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 15, 2012, 10:50:09 AM
San Antonio is a big city, and is rapidly expanding. On the other hand, Columbia is a smaller city on the brink of a meth lab holocaust.

Your call though  :popcorn:

on the other hand you are pretty much guaranteed to be the smartest person in Columbia

*2nd smartest. Quinn Snyder still owns a vacation home in Columbia.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2012, 10:51:00 AM
So you are moving away from Manhattan to live closer to family in Columbia.  And you are wanting a job in San Antonio?  Why do you hate Manhattan?

Good point, luken_mukens.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: CNS on June 15, 2012, 10:52:08 AM
Texans vs Missourians

Seems pretty simple to me, but then again it sounds like you are used to Missourians.

Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 15, 2012, 10:53:02 AM
i have some san antonio and austin based architecty type insiders. want me to try and dig some dirt on these guys cam?
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: kitten_mittons on June 15, 2012, 10:58:44 AM
So you are moving away from Manhattan to live closer to family in Columbia.  And you are wanting a job in San Antonio?  Why do you hate Manhattan?

Good point, luken_mukens.
We both know that no one reads your posts, I wanted everyone to understand what was going on.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: camKSU on June 15, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
So you are moving away from Manhattan to live closer to family in Columbia.  And you are wanting a job in San Antonio?  Why do you hate Manhattan?

Good point, luken_mukens.

Complicated answer but it really comes down to professional growth, firm size/atmosphere, long-term potential.

I love Manhattan but the tucks in this town have kinda worn me down (i.e. public transportation, FPD, shortsightedness, etc...) - plus being great smelling and in my mid 20's manhattan is lacking in the urban professional resources that i need to reach my full potential. If i was mid 30's with a family manhattan would be great but I have some wild oats to sow still.

The family/friends thing was just another reason, not the only one. I needed an escape and columbia provided that... in terms of what i really am looking for (big city, lots to do, etc...) San Antonio fulfills that better.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2012, 11:09:52 AM
taking the columbia job was stupid. "oh, hey, I really want to get out of this town and move to the big city and meet single professionals so I'm moving to columbia, MO: population less than Topeka"
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
taking the columbia job was stupid.

I think we've hit the root of the problem.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: camKSU on June 15, 2012, 11:15:16 AM
I merely accepted their employment proposal... I haven't "taken" or started the job yet.

And while I can't believe I am going to defend Columbia, it definitely has more resources than Manhattan or Topeka.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
I merely accepted their employment proposal... I haven't "taken" or started the job yet.

And while I can't believe I am going to defend Columbia, it definitely has more resources than Manhattan or Topeka.

But definitely not enough to justify "accepting an employment proposal" there when you want to live an city with decent transit and young professionals.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: camKSU on June 15, 2012, 11:35:22 AM
BTW - You all may or may not know the current climate for architecture but the fact that I have three jobs to choose from is kind of in and of itself a miracle...

Of all college graduates, architecture majors have the highest unemployment by far and the rest of the profession is no better. So the fact that they offered to split expenses, while bush league, is astounding.

I appreciate the bluntness and honesty, not that i didn't expect that from you hooligans :cheers:

Being from Missouri I know what to expect... alot of methed-out GED low lifes that root for mizzou because it is the only d-1 school in the state - but as far as college towns go at least Columbia tries to be a little progressive and take of the students.

San Antonio has it all - bars, population, riverwalk, austin, hot latinos, etc... It is in Texas though so everyone will have that texas-ego

Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
You still have the MHK job to choose from?
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: EMAWmeister on June 15, 2012, 11:40:07 AM
BTW - You all may or may not know the current climate for architecture but the fact that I have three jobs to choose from is kind of in and of itself a miracle...

Of all college graduates, architecture majors have the highest unemployment by far and the rest of the profession is no better. So the fact that they offered to split expenses, while bush league, is astounding.

I appreciate the bluntness and honesty, not that i didn't expect that from you hooligans :cheers:

Being from Missouri I know what to expect... alot of methed-out GED low lifes that root for mizzou because it is the only d-1 school in the state - but as far as college towns go at least Columbia tries to be a little progressive and take of the students.

San Antonio has it all - bars, population, riverwalk, austin, hot latinos, etc... It is in Texas though so everyone will have that texas-ego


How is this still a question?
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2012, 11:40:22 AM
you can buy a mansion in Texas for about 900 dollars
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 15, 2012, 11:42:07 AM
BTW - You all may or may not know the current climate for architecture but the fact that I have three jobs to choose from is kind of in and of itself a miracle...

Of all college graduates, architecture majors have the highest unemployment by far and the rest of the profession is no better. So the fact that they offered to split expenses, while bush league, is astounding.

I appreciate the bluntness and honesty, not that i didn't expect that from you hooligans :cheers:

Being from Missouri I know what to expect... alot of methed-out GED low lifes that root for mizzou because it is the only d-1 school in the state - but as far as college towns go at least Columbia tries to be a little progressive and take of the students.

San Antonio has it all - bars, population, riverwalk, austin, hot latinos, etc... It is in Texas though so everyone will have that texas-ego a truck
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: camKSU on June 15, 2012, 11:49:22 AM
BTW - You all may or may not know the current climate for architecture but the fact that I have three jobs to choose from is kind of in and of itself a miracle...

Of all college graduates, architecture majors have the highest unemployment by far and the rest of the profession is no better. So the fact that they offered to split expenses, while bush league, is astounding.

I appreciate the bluntness and honesty, not that i didn't expect that from you hooligans :cheers:

Being from Missouri I know what to expect... alot of methed-out GED low lifes that root for mizzou because it is the only d-1 school in the state - but as far as college towns go at least Columbia tries to be a little progressive and take of the students.

San Antonio has it all - bars, population, riverwalk, austin, hot latinos, etc... It is in Texas though so everyone will have that texas-ego


How is this still a question?

Touche
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 15, 2012, 11:53:59 AM
you can buy a mansion in Texas for about 900 dollars

yep, 850 if you haggle enough
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 15, 2012, 12:00:06 PM
yeah....you know the answer Cam.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: CNS on June 15, 2012, 12:03:30 PM
you can buy a mansion in Texas for about 900 dollars

yep, 850 if you haggle enough

Yeah, I am selling my home and have been looking at the market locally here.  It is insane the diff in what you get in KS and TX for the same money.  Insane. 
Make up your mind before you check this out, otherwise it will make up your mind for you.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2012, 12:08:02 PM
After reading this thread I just went and bought a mansion in texas for $700.   :gocho:
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 15, 2012, 12:33:36 PM
After reading this thread I just went and bought a mansion in texas for $700.   :gocho:

Did they give you a receipt? Pics plz
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: CNS on June 15, 2012, 12:42:33 PM
After reading this thread I just went and bought a mansion in texas for $700.   :gocho:

Did they give you a receipt? Pics plz

Pfft, it's TX.  Spit handshakes are the only formal copy of a receipt available.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: 0.42 on June 15, 2012, 02:28:40 PM
I mean this isn't even a question.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2012, 02:33:59 PM
BTW - You all may or may not know the current climate for architecture but the fact that I have three jobs to choose from is kind of in and of itself a miracle...

Of all college graduates, architecture majors have the highest unemployment by far and the rest of the profession is no better. So the fact that they offered to split expenses, while bush league, is astounding.

I appreciate the bluntness and honesty, not that i didn't expect that from you hooligans :cheers:

Being from Missouri I know what to expect... alot of methed-out GED low lifes that root for mizzou because it is the only d-1 school in the state - but as far as college towns go at least Columbia tries to be a little progressive and take of the students.

San Antonio has it all - bars, population, riverwalk, austin, hot latinos, etc... It is in Texas though so everyone will have that texas-ego


How is this still a question?

No kidding. Leaving MHK was a big mistake, but don't compound that by moving to San Antonio. Short commutes, friendly faces, and job security ftw.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2012, 03:37:16 PM
After reading this thread I just went and bought a mansion in texas for $700.   :gocho:

Did they give you a receipt? Pics plz

Pfft, it's TX.  Spit handshakes are the only formal copy of a receipt available.

For property you gotta slap the other guy on the shoulder twice also.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: OB_Won on June 16, 2012, 12:21:02 AM
No state income taxes in TX.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: ew2x4 on June 16, 2012, 12:31:21 AM
What offices are you looking at/resigning from? The stability of those should give you the answer. I really wouldn't trust Columbia or San Antonio for lots of stability right now. I've survived several rounds of layoffs at my firm. It's rough out there.
Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: nicname on June 16, 2012, 01:01:41 AM
BTW - You all may or may not know the current climate for architecture but the fact that I have three jobs to choose from is kind of in and of itself a miracle...

Of all college graduates, architecture majors have the highest unemployment by far and the rest of the profession is no better. So the fact that they offered to split expenses, while bush league, is astounding.

I appreciate the bluntness and honesty, not that i didn't expect that from you hooligans :cheers:

Being from Missouri I know what to expect... alot of methed-out GED low lifes that root for mizzou because it is the only d-1 school in the state - but as far as college towns go at least Columbia tries to be a little progressive and take of the students.

San Antonio has it all - bars, population, riverwalk, austin, hot latinos, etc... It is in Texas though so everyone will have that texas-ego

I know, right!

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Title: Re: San Antonio, TX vs. Columbia, MO
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 16, 2012, 10:11:58 AM
No state income taxes in TX.

I've heard that as well. I've also heard that other things are a little bit more expensive to compensate for it, like car registration, insurance, etc. Obviously if you make a crap ton of money it is cheaper for you but if you make an average salary it turns out to be close to the same.

Just what I've heard, I'm no BigDCat...