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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Trim on June 03, 2012, 02:11:40 PM
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Long story short, went to a wedding this weekend and take my girlfriend back to her apartment complex to find out that Chase had repossessed her bicycle she had chained outside her door because they deemed it a fire hazard. Seems completely reasonable to me initially as I figured they'd tell her she can't have it there then let her have the bike back and she needs to lock it somewhere else at night. Only problem is they refuse to give her the bike back, her personal property. Is there any way to make them give it back? This seems completely absurd to even have to ask that, like an elementary school teacher is withholding a kid's crayons to punish him.
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
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my BiL is a lawyer in manhappiness, he sees this stuff all the time. e-mail me if you want his contact information.
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trim :nono:
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They agreed to give it back Tuesday after she has a meeting with a manager or somebody who calls themselves a manager. Also on this meeting she found out they have a garage full of bicycles they confiscated. They could have notified the tenants to move their bicycles instead they stole them without any sort of notification. If your bike is gone without notice your usual thought is it has been stolen and unlikely to ever be recovered; not to think management may have claimed it as their own. I'm assuming any bike that goes unclaimed after a certain time period they are selling as they refused to even show her own bike before she threatened to file a police report. It's probable someone there is running a freaking bike selling scam.
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I "think" they are or atleast were owned by KU people at one point?
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shady underhanded dealings coming from a property manager/land lord? in MANHATTAN,KS,,, hell you say. lol. Sorry, ahem.... i feel our frustration, sounds idiotic, but i'm willing to wager that Chase will argue that the property repossessed was on their property and wasn't technically inside an apt. My suggestion, have the BBB call them, or even contact the free KSU legal dept just to see where exactly you stand. But in my opinion, this sounds like a typical possession is 9/10's of the law type deal and unless your gf has very specific evidence that the bike is her property other than going by just your word it may be far more frustrating to get that bike back than you think.
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
LOL, they stole my car! Not my problem, take it to civil court loser.
Short answer: no
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did it have awesome pegs? if not i'd probably just let them have it.
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
LOL, they stole my car! Not my problem, take it to civil court loser.
Short answer: no
Depends on who took your car. If it's someone you let borrow the car sometimes, and they take it on a roadtrip without your permission are you going to report it stolen?
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It was a bicycle.
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It was a bicycle.
so what. its property, end of story.
also look at the lease to see if they include anything about enforcement of city codes.
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It was a bicycle.
so what. its property, end of story.
also look at the lease to see if they include anything about enforcement of city codes.
I don't think I'll be able to look at the lease.
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
LOL, they stole my car! Not my problem, take it to civil court loser.
Short answer: no
Depends on who took your car. If it's someone you let borrow the car sometimes, and they take it on a roadtrip without your permission are you going to report it stolen?
You can if you're a douche.
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
LOL, they stole my car! Not my problem, take it to civil court loser.
Short answer: no
Depends on who took your car. If it's someone you let borrow the car sometimes, and they take it on a roadtrip without your permission are you going to report it stolen?
You can if you're a douche.
You are a laugh riot, penders
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It was a bicycle. They didn't have permission.
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JFC. WTF do they care so much? It shouldn't have to be a process to get your bike back. Sue them.
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I think you should steal something from them then organize a swap. Only make the something you steal from them bigger than your bike.
Also, you should get the Big Poppi cult guys involved. I mean, this is like someone stealing bibles, right?
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I suggest inviting them to a pak, drawing on their faces, set up drive-by PIing. Isn't that how you got Fanning to do whatever you want?
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She gets it back today after the meeting.
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She gets it back today after the meeting.
Sounds exactly like grade school. :nono: :bawl: :cry: :shy: :clac:
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Probably show her in the contract where it says you can't store anything outside your apartment and that it may be confiscated. Would have been nice if they gave her a warning.
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Probably show her in the contract where it says you can't store anything outside your apartment and that it may be confiscated. Would have been nice if they gave her a warning.
They're running a freaking bike selling scam. You think they give a damn about contracts?
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
LOL, they stole my car! Not my problem, take it to civil court loser.
Short answer: no
Depends on who took your car. If it's someone you let borrow the car sometimes, and they take it on a roadtrip without your permission are you going to report it stolen?
You can if you're a douche.
No you can't, because it's a civil issue, or deprivation of property offense at the very most. Didn't mean to derail your bike reclamation efforts Trim, this was a bit tangential. I'm pulling for you guys to stick it to 'em...but not in that way...unless you're into that
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Probably show her in the contract where it says you can't store anything outside your apartment and that it may be confiscated. Would have been nice if they gave her a warning.
They're running a freaking bike selling scam. You think they give a damn about contracts?
Link? I have been thinking of getting a new bike.
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Probably show her in the contract where it says you can't store anything outside your apartment and that it may be confiscated. Would have been nice if they gave her a warning.
They're running a freaking bike selling scam. You think they give a damn about contracts?
Link? I have been thinking of getting a new bike.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=21283.msg540806#msg540806
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
LOL, they stole my car! Not my problem, take it to civil court loser.
Short answer: no
Depends on who took your car. If it's someone you let borrow the car sometimes, and they take it on a roadtrip without your permission are you going to report it stolen?
You can if you're a douche.
No you can't, because it's a civil issue, or deprivation of property offense at the very most. Didn't mean to derail your bike reclamation efforts Trim, this was a bit tangential. I'm pulling for you guys to stick it to 'em...but not in that way...unless you're into that
lol
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She gets it back today after the meeting.
Sounds exactly like grade school. :nono: :bawl: :cry: :shy: :clac:
just spray paint some golden wieners on their signs so it basically says chase wieners and gtfo once she has her bike back. if they treat you like a child, act like one.
realistically, ask them what they do with the repo'd bikes. Villa Fay takes bikes too (pretty sure its just the ones they find after people move out of their properties) and gives em away if you ask... her husband even offered to help take a nicer tire from one and put it on another.
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
LOL, they stole my car! Not my problem, take it to civil court loser.
Short answer: no
Depends on who took your car. If it's someone you let borrow the car sometimes, and they take it on a roadtrip without your permission are you going to report it stolen?
You can if you're a douche.
No you can't, because it's a civil issue, or deprivation of property offense at the very most. Didn't mean to derail your bike reclamation efforts Trim, this was a bit tangential. I'm pulling for you guys to stick it to 'em...but not in that way...unless you're into that
I'm not sure what season of Law & Order you are watching, but taking someone's property without consent is not a civil matter. It is theft. If someone you loan your car to does not return it upon demand, you can certainly call the police and report it as theft, and they will investigate it as such. The OP's situation is also theft. Despite what they may have written into a lease, they cannot seize your property and not return it. They may confiscate it and hold it until you meet with them, but once you ask for it's return, they must return it.
At worst it is criminal deprivation of property, but it escalates to theft the moment you request the return of your property and they do not comply.
http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_21/Article_37/21-3705.html
http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_21/Article_37/21-3701.html
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It's unlikely I'll ever have the opportunity to ask them about this.
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It's unlikely I'll ever have the opportunity to ask them about this.
Too far along into the revenge plans?
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It's unlikely I'll ever have the opportunity to ask them about this.
Too far along into the revenge plans?
Turns out my wife reads the board, or at least somebody sent her a link to the QT/Lawrence thread, and she then saw this. No more side pieces for ol' Trim.
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short answer...call rcpd. that is theft.
Nope. This is resolved through civil court, and RCPD will tell you the same thing.
LOL, they stole my car! Not my problem, take it to civil court loser.
Short answer: no
Depends on who took your car. If it's someone you let borrow the car sometimes, and they take it on a roadtrip without your permission are you going to report it stolen?
You can if you're a douche.
No you can't, because it's a civil issue, or deprivation of property offense at the very most. Didn't mean to derail your bike reclamation efforts Trim, this was a bit tangential. I'm pulling for you guys to stick it to 'em...but not in that way...unless you're into that
I'm not sure what season of Law & Order you are watching, but taking someone's property without consent is not a civil matter. It is theft. If someone you loan your car to does not return it upon demand, you can certainly call the police and report it as theft, and they will investigate it as such. The OP's situation is also theft. Despite what they may have written into a lease, they cannot seize your property and not return it. They may confiscate it and hold it until you meet with them, but once you ask for it's return, they must return it.
At worst it is criminal deprivation of property, but it escalates to theft the moment you request the return of your property and they do not comply.
http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_21/Article_37/21-3705.html
http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_21/Article_37/21-3701.html
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It was a bicycle.
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It was a bicycle.
crap (just came from cussing thread), sorry.
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It was a bicycle.
rabbit season
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I left my old bike chained up at an apartment complex I moved out of for over a year. I eventually came back and picked it up with no problems. Chase is dick central.
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#burnchaseaptsdown
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