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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: kstater on May 11, 2012, 05:32:50 PM
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http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=b58534329a134395a5bd903003d9a2d2
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who loves micheal smith more now? I DO!
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Didn't get to read the whole thing since I don't subscribe.
But the first thing you should be asking is, why are they talking to the Animal?
Oh and find an untraceable phone and keep on calling and texting Mike.
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Elite
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Is this our official mcmw moment for the year? Do we now go on to be ridiculously awesome because of it?
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Is this our official mcmw moment for the year? Do we now go on to be ridiculously awesome because of it?
We've been predicting this for a while now. Like, just about every time something gets self reported. As long as Currie is here, we will never MCMW.
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Did he break an ncaa rule or an ncob recruiting rule?
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It's not Smith's fault. You know LHC old ballz taped that phone to his head and told him to use it or lose it. And when I say it, I mean his balls.
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fire our compliance dept and everyone that is directly in charge of them. how and why? kstate needs to tell us how they found out and why they decided this. it seems weird when the school is violently against the staffs. no?
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The infraction was detected after K-State installed Stronger internal controls for monitoring phone calls
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The infraction was detected after K-State installed Stronger internal controls for monitoring phone calls
hmm interesting...
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The infraction was detected after K-State installed Stronger internal controls for monitoring phone calls
NCAA requires schools to pay for cell phone subscriptions, so the AD has all call records. It's not that difficult to determine. When coaches complete recruiting contact reports, the recruits cell phone number is one of those things that goes in the report. It's just a matter of creating a searchable database and connecting the dots.
Currie will get brownie points and be a rising star in the NCAA's eyes if he emphasizes this level of compliance. It also helps the NCAA see the simplicity of monitoring recruiting contacts, so they can easily whack the K-State's of the world when they need to look tough.
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The infraction was detected after K-State installed Stronger internal controls for monitoring phone calls
NCAA requires schools to pay for cell phone subscriptions, so the AD has all call records. It's not that difficult to determine. When coaches complete recruiting contact reports, the recruits cell phone number is one of those things that goes in the report. It's just a matter of creating a searchable database and connecting the dots.
Currie will get brownie points and be a rising star in the NCAA's eyes if he emphasizes this level of compliance. It also helps the NCAA see the simplicity of monitoring recruiting contacts, so they can easily whack the K-State's of the world when they need to look tough.
Way to be on the cutting edge of catching infractions kstate.
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“Regular self-reporting of secondary and minor violations is routine procedure and a normal aspect of operating an NCAA member institution intercollegiate athletics program,” athletic director John Currie said in a statement. “Given the complexity of the NCAA rulebook, more concern would generally be shown for institutions which never report any secondary infractions rather than those that regularly do."
You sly dog. Currie throws the NCAA a bone here and there and we can cheat without getting into major trouble. I think Currie is owed an apology. He knows how the game is played.
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Great, now Snyder is going to take our phones away.
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Fantastic, now we've got No Country For Old Men leading the charge on the recruiting trail.
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goEMAW needs to get a phone contract w/ enough phones for each fb and bb coach, then hand them out to said coaches quietly. Coaches call as much as they want w/ no NCAA or AD oversight. goEMAW gets records monthly to see who we are recruiting and how much effort seems to be exerted.
Then, goEMAW can write it all off.
Win/Win/Win
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storm nut, please leave and never come back, thanks
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no offense storm nut, i just hate you
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okay, i don't know you, so i guess i don't hate you. however, i really hate when you type words on your keyboard into www.goEMAW.com and hit the post button.
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Having John Currie and Jamie Vaughn against us should be credited towards KSU's strength of schedule.
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Love you :blush:
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Having John Currie and Jamie Vaughn against us should be credited towards KSU's strength of schedule.
Yeah, our OOC sched, unless all the other teams in our confy has to play against them too.
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how in the world aren't we an iowa state or a kansas of this conference with the self imposed obstacles. eff me
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how in the world aren't we an iowa state or a kansas of this conference with the self imposed obstacles. eff me
These things take time. Gotta think Currie has a 5yr plan. I mean, you gotta think it would take a full recruiting cycle to reduce us to absolute crap.
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The orgins of this probe centered on the recruitment of a certain K-State player. Coach Smith and Coach Snyder have been interviewed many times concerning Smitty's numerous phone calls to this young man prior to him being the age to do so. There is a long history of Smitty contacting this recruit and his father.
Well, there was an easy explanation for this contact. Michael Smith is Tyler Lockett's Godfather and is close friends with his father, Kevin.
This seems to be the very definition of a pre-existing relationship but that has not stopped the interviews and probing from K-State's compliance office.
Now, I am uncertain if this intense examination of Smith's phone history unveiled something more, but it started with this Smith-Lockett relationship. It also remains unclear what, if any, penalties Tyler Lockett will face from K-State for this contact.
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What part is wrong here. Our AD reporting or having a system and rules set in place were we feel the need to report this crap. Should Mike even have to second guess being able to call his Godson, hell no, but with a bloated rule book and system that says report anything and everything but if you don't we will throw the book at you (unless you make us big money or have "tradition"). Most of the time schools don't get in troble for the actual rules violation, but get in troble because they did not report it and the NCAA had to do work and find it.
stormnut, go hang yourself
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wow.
wow.
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Im big time now. I have my own hate thread. :emawkid:
Validation achieved. Thank You
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Fantastic, now we've got No Country For Old Men leading the charge on the recruiting trail.
i wish i knew what this meant...because it sounds outstanding.
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Fitz is way off on this report, has zero to do with lockett. have no idea where that came from. self report has to do with another player.
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oh man.
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Fitz is way off on this report, has zero to do with lockett. have no idea where that came from. self report has to do with another player.
fitz futher clarified that it was during Jamie Vaughn's Inquisition of Mike's calls to Lockett that they found some secondary violations for another player.
i don't remember any coaching punishment ever given down for secondary violations like these, especially one that, as far as I know, would be the first time it's happened to that specific coach. when has that happened?
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Fitz is way off on this report, has zero to do with lockett. have no idea where that came from. self report has to do with another player.
fitz futher clarified that it was during Jamie Vaughn's Inquisition of Mike's calls to Lockett that they found some secondary violations for another player.
i don't remember any coaching punishment ever given down for secondary violations like these, especially one that, as far as I know, would be the first time it's happened to that specific coach. when has that happened?
my god our athletic dept will stop at nothing in their attempt to kill our athletic programs.
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Fitz is way off on this report, has zero to do with lockett. have no idea where that came from. self report has to do with another player.
fitz futher clarified that it was during Jamie Vaughn's Inquisition of Mike's calls to Lockett that they found some secondary violations for another player.
i don't remember any coaching punishment ever given down for secondary violations like these, especially one that, as far as I know, would be the first time it's happened to that specific coach. when has that happened?
Fitz is wrong on that too, unsurprisingly.
This particular violation and punishment is very common everywhere. Probably happens a dozen times a year on average. Secondary violations are hardly ever made public though. This one became public because of ned seaton.
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Fitz is way off on this report, has zero to do with lockett. have no idea where that came from. self report has to do with another player.
fitz futher clarified that it was during Jamie Vaughn's Inquisition of Mike's calls to Lockett that they found some secondary violations for another player.
i don't remember any coaching punishment ever given down for secondary violations like these, especially one that, as far as I know, would be the first time it's happened to that specific coach. when has that happened?
Fitz is wrong on that too, unsurprisingly.
This particular violation and punishment is very common everywhere. Probably happens a dozen times a year on average. Secondary violations are hardly ever made public though. This one became public because of ned seaton.
a dozen times a year in what? kstate football? kstate athletics as a whole. major college football?
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You have got to be mother effing kidding me.get john currie the eff away
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couple of weird stories where self reported violations didn't mean the coach was punished in any way. really weird.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-05-18/sports/bs-sp-terps-violations-0518-20110518_1_secondary-violations-floor-coaching-head-coach (http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-05-18/sports/bs-sp-terps-violations-0518-20110518_1_secondary-violations-floor-coaching-head-coach)
http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2011/12/20/uga-self-reports-numerous-ncaa-violations-including-monetary-gifts-from-richt/ (http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2011/12/20/uga-self-reports-numerous-ncaa-violations-including-monetary-gifts-from-richt/)
this one's weird because it's northwestern. I mean, NORTHWESTERN. And, like, they are all like "hey, don't do that". it's so weird.
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/sports/it-s-chaos-disorder-dominates-the-ncaa-1.2691630 (http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/sports/it-s-chaos-disorder-dominates-the-ncaa-1.2691630)
"Some of them are as simple as they called a high school prospect twice in a week when they were only allowed to call once," Harty said. "In that case we would say, ‘Okay, don't make any phone calls to that prospect for a week' as a little moratorium."
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to be fair, I realize these secondary violations happen and they do, in some cases, mean the coach doesn't have contact with that specific prospect is or limited for a period of time (usually 2 weeks). Mike got a month where he couldn't recruit off campus, so I assume he was sexting a recruit.
i'm also going to laugh my ass off when Jamie Vaughn stands out on the practice field with a stop watch to try to catch bill practicin' his boys longer than he's supposed to.
run off the cuban? fine. try to f*ck with bill? the tucks will not have it.
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The infraction was detected after K-State installed Stronger internal controls for monitoring phone calls
hmm interesting...
rumblings michael smiths phone records were found in the westloop Dillons trashcan
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The infraction was detected after K-State installed Stronger internal controls for monitoring phone calls
hmm interesting...
rumblings michael smiths phone records were found in the westloop Dillons trashcan
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run off the cuban? fine. try to f*ck with bill? the tucks will not have it.
Nope. They're fine with it.
HELLO this is what we are suppose to do.
This is the opposite of "Lack of Institutional Control".
you know HOFLHCBS has lit into the offending coach.
No they are not nit picking they are doing what they were hired to do. keep us out of trouble with the NCAA. banghead
Meh, self report here was the right thing to do. He'll be banned from recruiting off campus for a little while but that is it most likely.
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Jesus
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The tucks like mediocrity.
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
you are the worst
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
you are the worst
Cool, a stalker
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
you are the worst
Cool, a stalker
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
so currie's master plan is to throw as many secondary violations at the ncaa as possible so they won't snoop around? do you rough ridin' seriously believe this? do you rough ridin' seriously believe that we're doing over compliance in some sort of athletic department wide effort to let the real, serious cheating that we're doing go unnoticed? please tell me you don't think this. jfc.
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
so currie's master plan is to throw as many secondary violations at the ncaa as possible so they won't snoop around? do you rough ridin' seriously believe this? do you rough ridin' seriously believe that we're doing over compliance in some sort of athletic department wide effort to let the real, serious cheating that we're doing go unnoticed? please tell me you don't think this. jfc.
Sorry it is too complex for you mind to wrap around it. Currie is an innovator.
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
so currie's master plan is to throw as many secondary violations at the ncaa as possible so they won't snoop around? do you rough ridin' seriously believe this? do you rough ridin' seriously believe that we're doing over compliance in some sort of athletic department wide effort to let the real, serious cheating that we're doing go unnoticed? please tell me you don't think this. jfc.
Sorry it is too complex for you mind to wrap around it. Currie is an innovator.
partly stupid, with a 70% chance of Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
so currie's master plan is to throw as many secondary violations at the ncaa as possible so they won't snoop around? do you rough ridin' seriously believe this? do you rough ridin' seriously believe that we're doing over compliance in some sort of athletic department wide effort to let the real, serious cheating that we're doing go unnoticed? please tell me you don't think this. jfc.
Sorry it is too complex for you mind to wrap around it. Currie is an innovator.
partly stupid, with a 70% chance of respect
yeah, it's pretty amazing what some people will believe
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The tucks like mediocrity.
If you see it for what it is, a bone, it is damn lucky we have Currie. He even said that is what this wasin the Topeka. Capital journal yesterday.
so currie's master plan is to throw as many secondary violations at the ncaa as possible so they won't snoop around? do you rough ridin' seriously believe this? do you rough ridin' seriously believe that we're doing over compliance in some sort of athletic department wide effort to let the real, serious cheating that we're doing go unnoticed? please tell me you don't think this. jfc.
Sorry it is too complex for you mind to wrap around it. Currie is an innovator.
partly stupid, with a 70% chance of respect
yeah, it's pretty amazing what some people will believe
Yes it is. :cheers:
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Currie doesn't have a master plan of reporting every small violation to build up good will with the NCAA to cash in later. Currie has a master plan of hyper compliance investigation (with an addition of penny pinching to the point that FB players are tweeting about lack of socks) so he can find every small violation possible to report so he can rebuild his image (see resume) after the debacle at Tennessee under his watch. That's it and that's all.
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Fitz is way off on this report, has zero to do with lockett. have no idea where that came from. self report has to do with another player.
Fantastic Stuff as always CC.
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storm nut, isn't the point of reporting small stuff so you can get away with big stuff and win important games? Do you want to explain to me why we threw Jamar under the bus for a tournament game? One that if we won, we would have moved onto the Sweet 16? I have to assume you're trolling or straight up Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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storm nut, isn't the point of reporting small stuff so you can get away with big stuff and win important games? Do you want to explain to me why we threw Jamar under the bus for a tournament game? One that if we won, we would have moved onto the Sweet 16? I have to assume you're trolling or straight up Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Dear god people. :popcorn:
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storm nut, isn't the point of reporting small stuff so you can get away with big stuff and win important games? Do you want to explain to me why we threw Jamar under the bus for a tournament game? One that if we won, we would have moved onto the Sweet 16? I have to assume you're trolling or straight up Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Because Frank had already crap the bed, and Jamar woudn't have made any difference? Just guessing here.
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Bill should just give Sams, Bender, and Gronk a list of recruits and make them call them every night.
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Sams should be given the green light to tweet everything. Everything. He should make his twitter into his own personal reality TV show. Then all the coaches would have to do is make sure recruits follow sams. done deal.
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Sams should be given the green light to tweet everything. Everything. He should make his twitter into his own personal reality TV show. Then all the coaches would have to do is make sure recruits follow sams. done deal.
Yes. Also, Gronk should take his whole family to the recruits' homes and then go out party rocking with them.
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The Gronk oppy is coming when big bro Gronk appears on the upcoming dating show this summer. Need to have him wear a WildWildCat tee shirt and give his little bro some props. Maybe even throw in how much "dating" fun he had while visiting little bro this spring.
Sams just needs to play out a twitter documentary on blessed white girls and "playing fa LHC Bill Snyder".