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Title: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: The Manhatter on May 05, 2012, 09:40:46 AM
winning pct
1896-1939 = .562
1940-1979 = .253
1980-2011 = .524

to summarize
76 years of .542 football
40 years of .253 football

KSU went 8-31-1 vs. Kansas & 6-34 vs. Mizzou during the horid '40-79 stretch.

The remaining 76 years = 30-26-4 vs. KU & 27-24-5 vs. Mizzou

blah to '40-'79...that is a lot of ron princes

"K-State football.  We've only been really bad 1/3 of the time" - cover of media guide material, no?
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: The Manhatter on May 05, 2012, 10:20:03 AM
additionally, looking at both KSU and KU in terms of winning pct when Snyder took over at KSU.

winning pct 1869-1989
KU = .512
KSU = .372

where we are today:

winning pct 1869-2011
KU = .501 (they will likely go below .500, historically, after this season)
KSU = .439

should Snyder stay another 5 years and KSU average 9-4 (very possible) and KU average 4-8 (likely to happen IMO)

winning pct 1869-2016
KU = .494
KSU = .453

so a gap that had been .14 whittled down to .041 in just 25 years of Snyder football. BTW, if we average 10-3 over the next 5 years and KU averages 3-9 the gap is about .03 and closing fast.
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: yosh on May 05, 2012, 11:22:12 AM
Are you trying to pretend like the 80s weren't that bad?   :confused:
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 05, 2012, 11:43:42 AM
i don't understand the obsession with ku.
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 05, 2012, 12:44:26 PM
The sad thing is . . . K-State had a window to actually get pretty decent in football in the 1950's and the athletic department and the administration wouldn't pony up a few more dollars for coach retention and recruiting.   


Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 05, 2012, 12:53:54 PM
The sad thing is . . . K-State had a window to actually get pretty decent in football in the 1950's and the athletic department and the administration wouldn't pony up a few more dollars for coach retention and recruiting.   




In 20 years, this is how we'll talk about the Huggins-Martin era in basketball.
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: ChiComCat on May 05, 2012, 01:02:02 PM
If we average 9-4 over the next 5 years, I will be quite happy
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: EllToPay on May 05, 2012, 01:59:02 PM
:dnr:
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2012, 04:35:32 PM
Only losers care about the past.
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: Deez Nutz on May 05, 2012, 10:51:51 PM
But didn't we win 17 conference championships in basketball plus two more tournament championships during that same stretch?  Is it really fair to pretend that only one of our sports existed during that time or do we have to strike them both from the record?  I'm all for voting out just football, but I want to make sure I'm on solid footing first before I go and debate this on the phog. 
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: Winters on May 08, 2012, 11:32:03 AM
I don't think we can eliminate it, The Manhatter.
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 08, 2012, 11:46:25 AM
Good thread, Manhatter. Lots to think about in there.
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: Ira Hayes on May 08, 2012, 12:48:27 PM
Ronald Reagan mocking our football program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cQ_1YADAlwI#t=207s
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: MadCat on May 08, 2012, 11:20:10 PM
We would not be America's team without our past and the scheme doctor would be a mere street pharmacist.
Title: Re: can we just eliminate 1940 thru 1979 in KSU's football history?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 08, 2012, 11:43:00 PM
The sad thing is . . . K-State had a window to actually get pretty decent in football in the 1950's and the athletic department and the administration wouldn't pony up a few more dollars for coach retention and recruiting.   
how old are you....I mean my god