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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Dr Rick Daris on April 27, 2012, 11:12:22 AM
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to just stop being a fan of a team and just pick out a team that you know is going to be really good and just become a superfan of them?
i'm posting this on the fball board because i know how crazed all you wildcat fans are for football but it could go on any board.
like for instance, i'm a huge royals fan and always have been. they're horrible though and it's just brutal. if i really tried hard, could i just pick the team that i think is the best at the allstar break and become a superfan of them and just start not caring at all about the royals like i don't care about say the bluejays for example? can i do this or would my body and brain fight me in some way that i could not overcome?
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Rick, it is totally doable. Best way is to get super butthurt over something dealing with the royals, then find a group of people that are equally butthurt, and support the crap out of each other's butthurt for a couple seasons. Also, publicly state your anger. That way your pride will keep you from going back.
That said, I would just stop watching baseball all together. It's a beautiful life, why be bored like that?
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to just stop being a fan of a team and just pick out a team that you know is going to be really good and just become a superfan of them?
i'm posting this on the fball board because i know how crazed all you wildcat fans are for football but it could go on any board.
like for instance, i'm a huge royals fan and always have been. they're horrible though and it's just brutal. if i really tried hard, could i just pick the team that i think is the best at the allstar break and become a superfan of them and just start not caring at all about the royals like i don't care about say the bluejays for example? can i do this or would my body and brain fight me in some way that i could not overcome?
I split up with the Royals a couple years ago. I think it might help to take a year off.
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to just stop being a fan of a team and just pick out a team that you know is going to be really good and just become a superfan of them?
i'm posting this on the fball board because i know how crazed all you wildcat fans are for football but it could go on any board.
like for instance, i'm a huge royals fan and always have been. they're horrible though and it's just brutal. if i really tried hard, could i just pick the team that i think is the best at the allstar break and become a superfan of them and just start not caring at all about the royals like i don't care about say the bluejays for example? can i do this or would my body and brain fight me in some way that i could not overcome?
It depends on your personality. On the one hand, you will feel a lot happier since your team always wins. However, dedicated fans will despise you and call you names like "T-Shirt fan" and stuff.
Another approach is to always cheer for the underdog, since this is the basis for most good cinema while simultaneously not handcuffing you to any one team. In this case, cherish the moral victories and when your team loses you can just choose the next loveable loser. Just don't get depressed when the evil empire always wins.
I am MadCat and this has been MadCat's Guide to Fairweather Fandom
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to just stop being a fan of a team and just pick out a team that you know is going to be really good and just become a superfan of them?
i'm posting this on the fball board because i know how crazed all you wildcat fans are for football but it could go on any board.
like for instance, i'm a huge royals fan and always have been. they're horrible though and it's just brutal. if i really tried hard, could i just pick the team that i think is the best at the allstar break and become a superfan of them and just start not caring at all about the royals like i don't care about say the bluejays for example? can i do this or would my body and brain fight me in some way that i could not overcome?
I tried to be a Tigers superfan when I moved to Michigan because their games were on TV all the time and they were pretty good but I just couldn't do it. The Royals would come on and I'd just get sucked in cheering for the Royals. and I'm not even that big of a Royals fan.
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I'm only able to be a fan of guys on my fantasy teams and their teams. When Rodgers was my Qb I was a huge GB fan. Baseball it's easier to just cheer for the individual players.
I guess I'm only a fan of the players and want them to do well, don't care if their teams win or not. Sometimes this goes hand in hand though.
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weird you would post this after the Royals got on this red hot winning streak.
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I don't think it is possible for normal, smart people to do what you are asking about. Think of the people you know that bounce from team to team, do you have much in common with them?
The Royals may be an exception to this rule as it appears the organization really is not committed to winning and MLB has the least level playing field of all the pro sports. I would think it would be pretty easy to be a Royals fan and a super fan of a NL team.
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It is possible to grow so disillusioned and battered that you publicly disavow all fandom, reject the team in every conceivable fashion (including open mockery and histrionics like jersey burning), and even eventually just stop caring in any profound way about a team's game-to-game results, shrugging off all of the losses as being meaningless. I have done this; it takes great discipline.
(The easiest way to accomplish this, in my experience, is to be a Bengals fan.)
The problem, in my view, is you cannot eradicate it completely. Some small part of you will still smile at the (sporadic) successes and wince at the (prevalent) failures. This is your destiny and your penance for adopting your team in the first place.
:cheers:
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Of course you can do it. I quit the chiefs cold turkey. Also smoking.
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i just used the royals as an example because they're playing right now and on my mind. what about kstate fball or bball or something else though. like if i knew we were going to be pretty bad in one next year or whatever, could i just pick a different team in the country and quickly learn about their players and team and then just cheer superhard for them and get on their message boards and exchange jabs and critical comments. could i easily quit the cats? i mean it might not be easy but is it possible? what if i tried really hard?
maybe it's one of those things that is hard or you don't like at first, but then the more you do it the easier/better it becomes, like drinking beer or getting high or a million other examples. i mean what if people don't do it because they only tried it once and couldn't really pull it off or they didn't like it/itdidn't do much for them so they stopped. what if they just would've kept at it? would a whole new/much better world have been opened to them? is this possible guys?
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You couldn't quit the Cats like you could everyone else, because you're not EMAW due to how good at sports the Cats are, EMAW is part of you.
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I quit the Chiefs almost a decade ago. Success didn't have anything to do with it, really. I just kind of stopped caring about the NFL altogether.
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it would be pud, for me. but i'm also intellectually superior to most of you who choose to allow some romanticized connection with a franchise that has been raping you for the better part of two decades, dictate your feelings.
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Of course you can do it. I quit the chiefs cold turkey. Also smoking.
I am curious about the circumstances. Do you still root for the Chiefs in any sense, like let's say you walk into a sports bar and lo and behold the Chiefs are on the TV playing the Raiders or Titans or whoever their rival is ( :dunno: ), and the Chiefs are killing 'em. Would you take any enjoyment in that? Or would you shrug it off completely?
Also, I agree that EMAW is different.
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Of course you can do it. I quit the chiefs cold turkey. Also smoking.
I am curious about the circumstances. Do you still root for the Chiefs in any sense, like let's say you walk into a sports bar and lo and behold the Chiefs are on the TV playing the Raiders or Titans or whoever their rival is ( :dunno: ), and the Chiefs are killing 'em. Would you take any enjoyment in that? Or would you shrug it off completely?
Also, I agree that EMAW is different.
it's more of a "good for them" and "the rednecks are going to punish an extra 30 pack tonight to celebrate" thing than anything else.
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Of course you can do it. I quit the chiefs cold turkey. Also smoking.
I am curious about the circumstances. Do you still root for the Chiefs in any sense, like let's say you walk into a sports bar and lo and behold the Chiefs are on the TV playing the Raiders or Titans or whoever their rival is ( :dunno: ), and the Chiefs are killing 'em. Would you take any enjoyment in that? Or would you shrug it off completely?
Also, I agree that EMAW is different.
Neil Smith signed with Denver, and I called it a wrap. I'd always liked pro sports more than college because pro teams stayed together for a long time and college players shifted in an out after a couple years. Being in MHK for the DOD along with free agency eroding what I liked about the Chiefs and the NFL made it easy to switch. First year, I was actively anti-Chiefs. When the Broncos knocked them out of the playoffs in arrowhead at the end of that year, I shifted to complete indifference. Like, I'm still against them and the white trashiness, but I don't pay any attention to it.
I was pretty die-hard too. Camped out there overnight for playoff tickets once. Dan Saleaumua gave us donuts in the morning.
Quit smoking clean after making out with a girl who'd been smoking all night when I hadn't been.
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If I were to jump from one team to another during a down year, it would be pro, not college. In the end, they're just professional athletes getting paid a ton of money to play a game. However, I still can't really do it. I just become apathetic about my current team when they suck horribly and I start watching other teams that are good just to enjoy watching the game played at its finest level. I can't openly root for those teams though. The eff kind of personal connection do I have with Manchester United?
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Neil Smith signed with Denver, and I called it a wrap. I'd always liked pro sports more than college because pro teams stayed together for a long time and college players shifted in an out after a couple years. Being in MHK for the DOD along with free agency eroding what I liked about the Chiefs and the NFL made it easy to switch. First year, I was actively anti-Chiefs. When the Broncos knocked them out of the playoffs in arrowhead at the end of that year, I shifted to complete indifference. Like, I'm still against them and the white trashiness, but I don't pay any attention to it.
I was pretty die-hard too. Camped out there overnight for playoff tickets once. Dan Saleaumua gave us donuts in the morning.
Quit smoking clean after making out with a girl who'd been smoking all night when I hadn't been.
:love:
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Of course you can do it. I quit the chiefs cold turkey. Also smoking.
I am curious about the circumstances. Do you still root for the Chiefs in any sense, like let's say you walk into a sports bar and lo and behold the Chiefs are on the TV playing the Raiders or Titans or whoever their rival is ( :dunno: ), and the Chiefs are killing 'em. Would you take any enjoyment in that? Or would you shrug it off completely?
Also, I agree that EMAW is different.
Neil Smith signed with Denver, and I called it a wrap. I'd always liked pro sports more than college because pro teams stayed together for a long time and college players shifted in an out after a couple years. Being in MHK for the DOD along with free agency eroding what I liked about the Chiefs and the NFL made it easy to switch. First year, I was actively anti-Chiefs. When the Broncos knocked them out of the playoffs in arrowhead at the end of that year, I shifted to complete indifference. Like, I'm still against them and the white trashiness, but I don't pay any attention to it.
I was pretty die-hard too. Camped out there overnight for playoff tickets once. Dan Saleaumua gave us donuts in the morning.
Quit smoking clean after making out with a girl who'd been smoking all night when I hadn't been.
The worst. like licking an ashtray. :barf:
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i just used the royals as an example because they're playing right now and on my mind. what about kstate fball or bball or something else though. like if i knew we were going to be pretty bad in one next year or whatever, could i just pick a different team in the country and quickly learn about their players and team and then just cheer superhard for them and get on their message boards and exchange jabs and critical comments. could i easily quit the cats? i mean it might not be easy but is it possible? what if i tried really hard?
maybe it's one of those things that is hard or you don't like at first, but then the more you do it the easier/better it becomes, like drinking beer or getting high or a million other examples. i mean what if people don't do it because they only tried it once and couldn't really pull it off or they didn't like it/itdidn't do much for them so they stopped. what if they just would've kept at it? would a whole new/much better world have been opened to them? is this possible guys?
42 should have some input here
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With God, anything is possible.
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I think its a 2-3 year process. I'm on year one of the TSC process and still have some work to do.
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I couldn't quit the royals or KState football or basketball or generally any KState thing. Those are the only teams I've ever cared about.
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I can't completely quit the Royals and the Chiefs, but I will belittle them, because IMO you almost have to try and be bad for as long as both of them have been bad/lack of postseason success. Particularly in the NFL.
EMAW is EMAW, that will never change.
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I can't completely quit the Royals and the Chiefs, but I will belittle them, because IMO you almost have to try and be bad for as long as both of them have been bad/lack of postseason success. Particularly in the NFL.
EMAW is EMAW, that will never change.
Since winning the super bowl in 69 the chiefs have won 4 playoff games, none since 93. The royals have not even made the playoff since I've been alive.
What if the cats never had the DOD? Would an entire generation of Kansans grow up with a case of apathy for sports?
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Impossible to quit EMAW. Professional sports are pretty easy imo.
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I find it's pretty easy for me to get into a sport I'm not usually that into if they have a local connection and are doing something cool like winning. Take Sporting KC, for instance. I've cared a lot more about watching their games this year than any of the Royals games, even though I've still watched 90% of the Royals games. I think I'm more likely to follow another local team that's being successful in a different sport rather than picking a different, non-local team in a sport I already watch.
The Royals have successfully weaned me from much desire to go out to the K to see games, which kind of makes me sad when I think about it. But their decades of suckiness combined with shrugging their shoulders at a downtown stadium combined with the them parkization of the stadium have left me where all that happens when I go out there is I sit and get angry at the stupidity of that franchise and Jackson County. No reason to waste my time or money on that. My fantasy baseball teams leave me with lots of interest in baseball generally.
I think it would not necessarily be that hard to find another college team to support. You can find a team that isn't going to play the Cats much, if at all, and there are all kinds of connections you can use to hook into the team (family members who attend, good friends who went there, living close to the school, etc.). I think the hook is what's kind of critical.
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would it be possible for me to stop being a kstate basketball fan and then immediately start cheering for ku or duke? is something like this possible? what if i tried really, really hard? like really hard you guys.
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would it be possible for me to stop being a kstate basketball fan and then immediately start cheering for ku or duke? is something like this possible? what if i tried really, really hard? like really hard you guys.
nope, your emaw is too strong.
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would it be possible for me to stop being a kstate basketball fan and then immediately start cheering for ku or duke? is something like this possible? what if i tried really, really hard? like really hard you guys.
seems like you must hate football? :dunno:
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Someone please explain why I can't quit the Royals, but I dropped the Chiefs like a bad habit several years ago. It is kind of strange since the royals have sucked longer and harder than the chiefs could ever dream of sucking.
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I think it would be very difficult, at least for diehards like most on this board.
I tried this with the Rockies over the Royals when the Rockies started. Even though I wasn't out of high school, I had been a fan of the Royals long enough that I couldn't quit them. I slowly gravitated back, even though they were terrible.
And I'm not that big of a baseball fan, there is no way I could do it for K-State football or basketball. Impossible.
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would it be possible for me to stop being a kstate basketball fan and then immediately start cheering for ku or duke? is something like this possible? what if i tried really, really hard? like really hard you guys.
i suppose you could if you really wanted too, but for a person such as yourself, it seems like you've invested too much into kstate to quit.
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Someone please explain why I can't quit the Royals, but I dropped the Chiefs like a bad habit several years ago. It is kind of strange since the royals have sucked longer and harder than the chiefs could ever dream of sucking.
I kind of feel the same way. The Royals still really get me down, but I just don't care about the Chiefs at all. The Chiefs have even made the playoffs a few times in the last decade, and I still didn't watch them. Maybe it's because I get all of the football fix I need from college football, and college baseball really isn't all that easy to follow. Just maybe if I subscribed to KStateHD and started religiously watching Cat baseball, I could stop caring about MLB, but I'm doubtful. MLB is just the ultimate sport to follow casually because you don't even have to watch the games. You can just read the box score and scroll through the play by play and know what happened and who's to blame.
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would it be possible for me to stop being a kstate basketball fan and then immediately start cheering for ku or duke? is something like this possible? what if i tried really, really hard? like really hard you guys.
seems like you must hate football? :dunno:
i mean i could just cheer for ku or duke in basketball. i could still cheer for cats football or maybe alabama football or something.
i'm beginning to think that a lot of people think it can't be done just because they've never really tried or at least haven't tried multiple times and with max effort. like, it's kind of hard for a lot of people to quit smoking but i bet most could if they were properly motivated, tried hard and never gave up. think how great it would be to just switch teams to whoever was good at the moment if you could somehow trick your mind/brain into caring for them as much as you care for the current team that you root/cheer for. it would be the best thing ever.
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would it be possible for me to stop being a kstate basketball fan and then immediately start cheering for ku or duke? is something like this possible? what if i tried really, really hard? like really hard you guys.
seems like you must hate football? :dunno:
i mean i could just cheer for ku or duke in basketball. i could still cheer for cats football or maybe alabama football or something.
i'm beginning to think that a lot of people think it can't be done just because they've never really tried or at least haven't tried multiple times and with max effort. like, it's kind of hard for a lot of people to quit smoking but i bet most could if they were properly motivated, tried hard and never gave up. think how great it would be to just switch teams to whoever was good at the moment if you could somehow trick your mind/brain into caring for them as much as you care for the current team that you root/cheer for. it would be the best thing ever.
There were a whole lot of kids at my high school who were K-State football fans and KU basketball fans. They actively rooted against K-State basketball and KU football, regardless of opponent. Those kids didn't seem to have too much trouble with this.
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would it be possible for me to stop being a kstate basketball fan and then immediately start cheering for ku or duke? is something like this possible? what if i tried really, really hard? like really hard you guys.
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no, rick daris, i do not believe it to be possible
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EMAW, no way. If my son played for another D1 team, I wouldn't leave EMAW. I could probably do it in Pro, but I don't care enough to. I mean, I guess the Chiefs are my team, but if god said, "I'm going to award EMAW a national championship, but that means Arrowhead has to burn to the ground with the entire Cheif organization in it." burn baby burn. :ksu:
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Impossible for me. I am stuck with the Royals, Chiefs and EMAW and not ashamed of it. One day I will be payed back for my loyalty. I have to be.
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Impossible for me. I am stuck with the Royals, Chiefs and EMAW and not ashamed of it. One day I will be payed back for my loyalty. I have to be.
omg. lol. good post applejack. hall? :lol:
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Impossible for me. I am stuck with the Royals, Chiefs and EMAW and not ashamed of it. One day I will be payed back for my loyalty. I have to be.
omg. lol. good post applejack. hall? :lol:
I HAVE TO BE!!! :shakesfist:
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Pro tip, root for a team that is far away.
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I can't completely quit the Royals and the Chiefs, but I will belittle them, because IMO you almost have to try and be bad for as long as both of them have been bad/lack of postseason success. Particularly in the NFL.
EMAW is EMAW, that will never change.
Since winning the super bowl in 69 the chiefs have won 4 playoff games, none since 93. The royals have not even made the playoff since I've been alive.
What if the cats never had the DOD? Would an entire generation of Kansans grow up with a case of apathy for sports?
Wrong. They won two playoff games in 1994.
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I grew up a chiefs super fan. When they lost at home to the colts I gave up.
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I grew up a chiefs super fan. When they lost at home to the colts I gave up.
Are you referring to the '95 playoffs or the '03 playoffs? (Lin Elliott can burn in hell, by the way.)
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the easiest solution is to give up on baseball because it's a boring sport.
i can't give up on the chiefs, but i do augment a second team, usually a winner.
lions
packers
jets
saints
giants
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I grew up a chiefs super fan. When they lost at home to the colts I gave up.
Are you referring to the '95 playoffs or the '03 playoffs? (Lin Elliott can burn in hell, by the way.)
03 but without 95 and denver 97/8 while we're at it, the 03 loss wouldn't have been as awful.
I still root for the chiefs but I'm not emotional about it.
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Impossible for me. I am stuck with the Royals, Chiefs and EMAW and not ashamed of it. One day I will be payed back for my loyalty. I have to be.
This. :thumbs:
I guess you could say this combination of fanship is a glutton for punishment. I find myself latching onto which ever team is doing the best. You could say this is a solution to RD's quandary. :dunno:
Select a set of teams, disconnect yourself from the ones doing poorly, and super fan the best team.
Rules are: one team per sport, and one college athelic program. Otherwise you have zero integrity and can't morally take satisfaction from success.
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I think you have to go through a few hard times with a team before you fall in love with them. You couldn't just start cheering for a good team and be as passionate about them as you were for K-State, because we've been through a lot of crap together.
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If I were to jump from one team to another during a down year, it would be pro, not college.
That's kind of ironic, coming from you.
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If I were to jump from one team to another during a down year, it would be pro, not college.
That's kind of ironic, coming from you.
My switch had nothing to do with team records :dubious: