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http://www.ncpanow.org/releases_advisories?id=0021
NCPA President Calls for Investigation Into K-State Suspension of Jamar Samuels
Article Brief
Samuels, who is from a low-income single-parent family, reportedly accepted $200 for food from his long-time family friend and former AAU coach. Upon learning of these allegations, Kansas State suspended Samuels just shortly before what would have been his final game, seemingly without any form of due process... .
Riverside, CA— The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student. Samuels, who is from a low-income single-parent family, reportedly accepted $200 for food from his long-time family friend and former AAU coach. Upon learning of these allegations, Kansas State suspended Samuels just shortly before what would have been his final game, seemingly without any form of due process. Kansas State appears to have ended Samuels’ college career without granting him the basic rights that it guarantees all of its students as outlined in the Kansas State Student Code of Conduct.
NCPA President Ramogi Huma sent a letter to Kansas State President Kirk Schulz calling for an investigation into whether or not Samuels was denied his rights as a Kansas State student.
Huma stated, “We are calling for an investigation to determine whether or not Kansas State violated one of its student’s rights on behalf of the NCAA.”
The Kansas State Student Government Association Bylaws outline various rights afforded to students accused of violating the Code of Conduct including knowledge of their rights, a fair hearing, and the right to appeal a decision.
In addition to the process of the suspension, the NCPA is questioning the nature of the suspension. “Whether or not Samuels received $200 for food, why would Kansas State or any other university subject their athletes to unjust rules that leave players valued at six figures living in poverty?”
Huma is referring to an NCPA study conducted jointly with the Drexel University Department of Sports Management showing that the fair market value for the average basketball player at an FBS school is approximately $265,000 per year. The study also revealed that NCAA rules leave 85% of these athletes living below the federal poverty line. In 2010, Jamar Samuels and his teammates had a fair market value of $291,000 each but NCAA rules forces them to live approximately $4000 below the federal poverty line. In contrast, John Currie, the athletic director who suspended Samuels received over $400,000 last year and outgoing head basketball coach Frank Martin is enjoying a salary of more than $1.5 million this year.
“There is a blatant conflict of interest at the heart of this suspension. Universities nationwide are colluding with the NCAA to strip their players of their market value to such a degree that their athletes struggle to pay for basic necessities,” stated Huma. The basketball players playing in this year’s Final Four have an average fair market value of a whopping $846,000 each but live more than $2000 below the federal poverty line.
Athletic director John Currie stated that once the university became aware of evidence that Samuels received the grocery money, “…to do nothing would have risked the integrity of the institution." However questions about the integrity of the university’s actions in regards to protecting Samuels’ rights as a student have yet to be answered. The NCPA hopes that an investigation will bring some answers.
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your tweet is a little inaccurate...
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j4j
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Good. eff that fool.
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be careful what you wish for.
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Kirk,
Please use this lengthy rope they have handed you to hang John. Also don't forget to make sure they know we strive to have a model intercollegiate athletic program.
WW
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some of you need to read the article. Currie is not being investigated, nor will he be. This is like Al Sharpton calling for an investigation.
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Didn't Jamar deserve the same due process any student would get?
It's a yes or no question.
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Who called for and got an investigation into trayvon martin's death? AL MOTHERFUCKING SHARPTON that's who.
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Currie used Samuels to set Martin up. It's all in the game.
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be careful what you wish for.
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
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fair market value
:facepalm:
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some of you need to read the article. Currie is not being investigated, nor will he be. This is like Al Sharpton calling for an investigation.
If I was told to be out of my office for a week I might, like, go on a cruise or something.
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
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Kirk,
Please use this lengthy rope they have handed you to hang John. Also don't forget to make sure they know we strive to have a model intercollegiate athletic program.
WW
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Kirk,
Please use this lengthy rope they have handed you to hang John. Also don't forget to make sure they know we strive to have a model intercollegiate athletic program.
WW
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wetwillie = ww
WillieWatanabe = DubDub
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Kirk,
Please use this lengthy rope they have handed you to hang John. Also don't forget to make sure they know we strive to have a model intercollegiate athletic program.
WW
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wetwillie = ww
WillieWatanabe = DubDub
It's too late Stevesie60...it's too late.
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Stevesie has been very consistent in this matter. For example, calling WillieWatanabe "dub dub" on turntable, despite "dub dub" using "WW"* as his moniker on turntable.
*disregard if it is actually wetwillie on turntable
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it says K-State suspended him...
they must be mistaken because we all know that it was an NCAA decision beyond our control :dunno:
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
Currie will say no but look like a jackass
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What an bad person (Currie).
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
Currie will say no but look like a jackass
Absolutely. But he's smart to say, "No," and look mean rather than prove he is through an investigation.
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it's all for show. this organization that I've never heard of if just calling out Currie and requesting he/KSU investigate himself/themselves. nothing bad can come of it for KSU other than their AD looking like a mean dickhole. I don't see how "be careful what you wish for" comes into play. I wish for Currie to look like a mean dickhole.
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it's all for show. this organization that I've never heard of if just calling out Currie and requesting he/KSU investigate himself/themselves. nothing bad can come of it for KSU other than their AD looking like a mean dickhole. I don't see how "be careful what you wish for" comes into play. I wish for Currie to look like a mean dickhole.
people wish for something that would lead to currie's dismissal to be uncovered. no one entertains the idea that major violations could be found, as if this truly was a one time deal so that jamar could "feed his family."
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it's all for show. this organization that I've never heard of if just calling out Currie and requesting he/KSU investigate himself/themselves. nothing bad can come of it for KSU other than their AD looking like a mean dickhole. I don't see how "be careful what you wish for" comes into play. I wish for Currie to look like a mean dickhole.
people wish for something that would lead to currie's dismissal to be uncovered. no one entertains the idea that major violations could be found, as if this truly was a one time deal so that jamar could "feed his family."
Currie getting run off or fired doesn't help K-State IMO. Its similar to a coach being unsuccessful. At best it leaves K-State at a neutral position, but probably makes K-State worse in the world of athletics, espicially if something impermissible from the NCAA is found. Best case scenario seems to me to be Weber having a successful couple years and Currie leaving for a better job if getting rid of Currie is what you really want. :ck:
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it's all for show. this organization that I've never heard of if just calling out Currie and requesting he/KSU investigate himself/themselves. nothing bad can come of it for KSU other than their AD looking like a mean dickhole. I don't see how "be careful what you wish for" comes into play. I wish for Currie to look like a mean dickhole.
people wish for something that would lead to currie's dismissal to be uncovered. no one entertains the idea that major violations could be found, as if this truly was a one time deal so that jamar could "feed his family."
I don't entertain the idea that major violations could be found by this nobody organization calling for KSU to investigate their handling of the suspension or that something could be found that would lead to Currie's dismissal. I don't think that anyone that knows who Curtis Malone is thinks that this was a one time or one player deal.
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it's all for show. this organization that I've never heard of if just calling out Currie and requesting he/KSU investigate himself/themselves. nothing bad can come of it for KSU other than their AD looking like a mean dickhole. I don't see how "be careful what you wish for" comes into play. I wish for Currie to look like a mean dickhole.
people wish for something that would lead to currie's dismissal to be uncovered. no one entertains the idea that major violations could be found, as if this truly was a one time deal so that jamar could "feed his family."
Currie getting run off or fired doesn't help K-State IMO. Its similar to a coach being unsuccessful. At best it leaves K-State at a neutral position, but probably makes K-State worse in the world of athletics, espicially if something impermissible from the NCAA is found. Best case scenario seems to me to be Weber having a successful couple years and Currie leaving for a better job if getting rid of Currie is what you really want. :ck:
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it's all for show. this organization that I've never heard of if just calling out Currie and requesting he/KSU investigate himself/themselves. nothing bad can come of it for KSU other than their AD looking like a mean dickhole. I don't see how "be careful what you wish for" comes into play. I wish for Currie to look like a mean dickhole.
people wish for something that would lead to currie's dismissal to be uncovered. no one entertains the idea that major violations could be found, as if this truly was a one time deal so that jamar could "feed his family."
I don't entertain the idea that major violations could be found by this nobody organization calling for KSU to investigate their handling of the suspension or that something could be found that would lead to Currie's dismissal. I don't think that anyone that knows who Curtis Malone is thinks that this was a one time or one player deal.
Aside from this particular organization's agenda, some people seem to want the truth to come out so that Currie will go down. I'm just saying that may not be the best idea. Especially given that we know Frank's history of cheating his ass off while at Miami High.
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it's all for show. this organization that I've never heard of if just calling out Currie and requesting he/KSU investigate himself/themselves. nothing bad can come of it for KSU other than their AD looking like a mean dickhole. I don't see how "be careful what you wish for" comes into play. I wish for Currie to look like a mean dickhole.
people wish for something that would lead to currie's dismissal to be uncovered. no one entertains the idea that major violations could be found, as if this truly was a one time deal so that jamar could "feed his family."
I don't entertain the idea that major violations could be found by this nobody organization calling for KSU to investigate their handling of the suspension or that something could be found that would lead to Currie's dismissal. I don't think that anyone that knows who Curtis Malone is thinks that this was a one time or one player deal.
Aside from this particular organization's agenda, some people seem to want the truth to come out so that Currie will go down. I'm just saying that may not be the best idea. Especially given that we know Frank's history of cheating his ass off while at Miami High.
I agree with chum.
sd, I get what you're saying, and when I agree with chum, I'm speaking to a different set of posters than you because I know where you were going with this.
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it's all for show. this organization that I've never heard of if just calling out Currie and requesting he/KSU investigate himself/themselves. nothing bad can come of it for KSU other than their AD looking like a mean dickhole. I don't see how "be careful what you wish for" comes into play. I wish for Currie to look like a mean dickhole.
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I'm also of the opinion that a conference office/ncaa office is what currie really wants. I DGAF where he goes as long as it's not at my school and he chokes on a chicken bone.
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there are a bunch of posters in this thread being investigated for butthurt's disease
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there are a bunch of posters in this thread being investigated for butthurt's disease
I'm extremely butthurt about jc.
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there are a bunch of posters in this thread being investigated for butthurt's disease
I'm extremely butthurt about jc.
Also guilty. I'll admit it. I'm still extremely frustrated, and I don't know when it will get better. I've ignored Telefund calls the last couple of nights because I don't want to give any money and I don't want to get cranky with some poor student.
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Pretty sure becoming an NCAA athlete means Jamar waived a bunch of rights, including the one mentioned in the letter.
It's why K-State/NCAA can make money off Jamar's smile forever without compensating Jamar a cent.
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Hey, if kstate doesn't want to give people due process IDGAF, I don't go there anymore. But they should flaunt it. JC should have said, yeah I benched him what are you going to do about it?
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
Again I'll ask did you read the article? I read it twice last night and I had to read it again because I was starting to think I didn't read it correctly. Let me summarize for all of you hinting that an investigation would turn up rampant cheating.
This dude is asking for Schulz to investigate Currie. He/she didn't call for NCAA, RCPD, KBI, FBI, CIA, NASA, or NAMBLA to investigate. The end result would likely be another cruise or a matinee at Carmike.
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
Again I'll ask did you read the article? I read it twice last night and I had to read it again because I was starting to think I didn't read it correctly. Let me summarize for all of you hinting that an investigation would turn up rampant cheating.
This dude is asking for Schulz to investigate Currie. He/she didn't call for NCAA, RCPD, KBI, FBI, CIA, NASA, or NAMBLA to investigate. The end result would likely be another cruise or a matinee at Carmike.
who cares about that stupid article? the pertinant topic is goEMAW butthurt.
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
Again I'll ask did you read the article? I read it twice last night and I had to read it again because I was starting to think I didn't read it correctly. Let me summarize for all of you hinting that an investigation would turn up rampant cheating.
This dude is asking for Schulz to investigate Currie. He/she didn't call for NCAA, RCPD, KBI, FBI, CIA, NASA, or NAMBLA to investigate. The end result would likely be another cruise or a matinee at Carmike.
who cares about that stupid article? the pertinant topic is goEMAW butthurt.
does being butthurt mean pretty upset at some of the choices being made in our athletic dept or something else? i've been away from the board for a few days and need some clarification.
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
Again I'll ask did you read the article? I read it twice last night and I had to read it again because I was starting to think I didn't read it correctly. Let me summarize for all of you hinting that an investigation would turn up rampant cheating.
This dude is asking for Schulz to investigate Currie. He/she didn't call for NCAA, RCPD, KBI, FBI, CIA, NASA, or NAMBLA to investigate. The end result would likely be another cruise or a matinee at Carmike.
who cares about that stupid article? the pertinant topic is goEMAW butthurt.
does being butthurt mean pretty upset at some of the choices being made in our athletic dept or something else? i've been away from the board for a few days and need some clarification.
i think you need some anti-butthurt salve
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
Again I'll ask did you read the article? I read it twice last night and I had to read it again because I was starting to think I didn't read it correctly. Let me summarize for all of you hinting that an investigation would turn up rampant cheating.
This dude is asking for Schulz to investigate Currie. He/she didn't call for NCAA, RCPD, KBI, FBI, CIA, NASA, or NAMBLA to investigate. The end result would likely be another cruise or a matinee at Carmike.
who cares about that stupid article? the pertinant topic is goEMAW butthurt.
does being butthurt mean pretty upset at some of the choices being made in our athletic dept or something else? i've been away from the board for a few days and need some clarification.
i think you need some anti-butthurt salve
i was assuming you could clarify since you've been using it. guess not. seems like the new motto around here is "deal with whatever the athletic dept does in a happy and positive way and if you don't like something, then get over it as quickly as possible or you're butthurt." that's funny to me.
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It's in K-State's best interest to fire Currie before Snyder retires. Otherwise, prepare yourselves for a oscar Weber type hire with the football program as well. Currie needs to die.
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It's in K-State's best interest to fire Currie before Snyder retires. Otherwise, prepare yourselves for a oscar Weber type hire with the football program as well. Currie needs to die.
Why do you care, TROLL. :facepalm:
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be careful what you wish for.
I don't think either of you read the article closely enough to understand what Mr./Mrs. Huma is asking.
The National College Players Association (NCPA) is calling on Kansas State to launch an investigation into whether or not the university violated basketball player Jamar Samuels’ rights guaranteed to him as a Kansas State student.
I get what they're saying about market value and how ridiculous the entire system is, but if you just look at the above quote, for those that want this done, what do they think the end result would be?
Again I'll ask did you read the article? I read it twice last night and I had to read it again because I was starting to think I didn't read it correctly. Let me summarize for all of you hinting that an investigation would turn up rampant cheating.
This dude is asking for Schulz to investigate Currie. He/she didn't call for NCAA, RCPD, KBI, FBI, CIA, NASA, or NAMBLA to investigate. The end result would likely be another cruise or a matinee at Carmike.
who cares about that stupid article? the pertinant topic is goEMAW butthurt.
does being butthurt mean pretty upset at some of the choices being made in our athletic dept or something else? i've been away from the board for a few days and need some clarification.
i think you need some anti-butthurt salve
i was assuming you could clarify since you've been using it. guess not. seems like the new motto around here is "deal with whatever the athletic dept does in a happy and positive way and if you don't like something, then get over it as quickly as possible or you're butthurt." that's funny to me.
careful, i think you got some butthurt on your chin
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someone is mad. someone is butthurt. could it be the same person?
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KSU "Rebel boards" AD apologists since 2012
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guys- "have some faith in adjc to get the job done. also, you're either a kstate fan or your not and if you want to question our athletic dept then why don't you just leave. nobody wants all of you fake fans anyway. go cheer for someone else. leland can you please pass the ketchup?"
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I don't get all the butthurt about people being butthurt.
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I don't get all the butthurt about people being butthurt.
The Frank/Currie/Weber stuff has gone so many different directions that all the better posters of goEMAW have gone in an equal number of different directions. Everyone is now trying to show that the other side is wrong because they are more irrationally angry or they are no longer rebelious because they aren't more angry or any number of other anger or acceptance levels. A consensus will slowly emerge somewhere in between and everyone will get back to agreeing with each other and then chum will start mocking the agreement. circle of life you clowns. fear the beard..
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I don't get all the butthurt about people being butthurt.
i don't either, but it doesn't look like we're going to get rocky mountain clams to explain it to us.
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I don't get all the butthurt about people being butthurt.
i don't either, but it doesn't look like we're going to get rocky mountain clams to explain it to us.
I imagine it's because once you resign yourself to the existing situation, it gets pretty old pretty quickly having people repeatedly gripe about stuff that they will have little to no effect over, at least in the near future. I can understand that.
I'm still griping because I'm still p.o.'d. And I think there's some value in continuing to voice displeasure with the way things went down over the last couple of months, to a) let other fans know that there are those who are still displeased, b) let the administration know that there are those who are still displeased. I guess the hope would be that continuing to voice displeasure now might have some effect on the way things go down in the future. Complaining around here is likely not very effective, but that's why I haven't been posting as much.
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Anybody ever seen OPJohn and John Currie in the same place at the same time?
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I don't get all the butthurt about people being butthurt.
i don't either, but it doesn't look like we're going to get rocky mountain clams to explain it to us.
there's no explaining your level of butthurt, sorry, BH. it just can't be done.
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We all care a lot and have a lot invested in the success of K-State sports. Some people who were initially anti-Currie / anti-Weber have talked themselves into it being okay as some sort of defense mechanism and now brand those who are still anti-Currie/Weber as "butthurt." Seems pretty weak, but I guess I can understand given the traumatic nature of the last month. Maybe it is some form of PTSD, but whatever.
#teamhorns
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I don't get all the butthurt about people being butthurt.
i don't either, but it doesn't look like we're going to get rocky mountain clams to explain it to us.
there's no explaining your level of butthurt, sorry, BH. it just can't be done.
ok rmc, ok.
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Looks blue just like the shirt print that was supposed to be purp.
Figured this would have been fixed by now. Seems very amateurish.
Way to go, clams.
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Who called for and got an investigation into trayvon martin's death? AL MOTHERFUCKING SHARPTON that's who.
This post should have gotten a lot of love. I'm worried about this place.
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Who called for and got an investigation into trayvon martin's death? AL MOTHERFUCKING SHARPTON that's who.
This post should have gotten a lot of love. I'm worried about this place.
yes, it was good