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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: OregonSmock on April 14, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
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April 13, 2012
LAWRENCE, Kan. - Kansas football added another proven player to its roster in Anthony McDonald, who is joining the Jayhawks after transferring from Notre Dame. McDonald is scheduled to complete his degree in May, making him eligible to play for KU in 2012.
McDonald, a native of Burbank, Calif., played in 28 games for the Irish during his four seasons in South Bend. After sitting out the 2008 season as a true freshman, McDonald appeared in all 12 of Notre Dame's games during the 2009 season playing under then Irish head coach and current Kansas head coach Charlie Weis. McDonald, a 6-foot-2, 230-pound linebacker, collected 10 tackles in 2009 while playing primarily on special teams.
During the 2010 season, McDonald played in 11 games for the Irish and recorded 11 tackles. He tallied three tackles in games versus Michigan State, Stanford and Miami (Fla.). In his final season at Notre Dame, McDonald recorded three tackles, while seeing action in four games.
McDonald, who will graduate from Notre Dame next month with a degree in sociology, was selected to play in U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio following his senior season at Notre Dame High School, where he teamed up with fellow Jayhawk, senior quarterback Dayne Crist. McDonald, who was coached by Kevin Rooney at NDHS, was placed on the all-Southern California team by Southern California Football Coaches Association and Orange County Register and was also named to the first-team all-Southern California team by GoldenStatePreps.com after he recorded 79 tackles and one sack in 11 games during his senior season.
McDonald was ranked by Scout.com the eighth-best middle linebacker in the country and the 16th-best prospect in California. McDonald was considered the 22nd-best player in California by SuperPrep and the third-best linebacker in the state, while Rivals.com rated him No. 31 in the state of California and the 11th-best inside linebacker. McDonald's father, Mike, played at USC and was a long snapper for the Los Angeles Rams in the NFL.
With the addition of McDonald, Kansas has now signed 25 players to its 2012 signing class. The Jayhawks have added five players as Division I transfers, nine junior college transfers and 11 high school athletes.
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A combined 24 tackles in 3 years. That is a shitty 3 games for Arthur Brown.
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congrats beems
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Putting together quite the mash unit over there :lol:
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Sweet. Another high profile recruit that under achieved in college. I don't know why you like these guys, beems. I guess they're shiny and stuff.
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he has about 100 less tackles in 3 seasons than arthur and tre did in 6 games last year.
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:zzz:
the most appropriate response.
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welp
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In his final season at Notre Dame, McDonald recorded three tackles, while seeing action in four games.
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No excuse for not winning their super bowl in manhattan this year.
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They will be SO soft. We'll beat them by 3 touchdowns. Easily.
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great get for ku though. any guy that got three tackles at notre dame should easily start for the jayhawks.
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beems, the teams looking pretty great so far huh? should make big strides. instant impact guys.
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I'm surprised this board isn't more impressed, what with all the stars and high rankings and stuff. this guy was GOOD in high school!
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I'm surprised this board isn't more impressed, what with all the stars and high rankings and stuff. this guy was GOOD in high school!
I'm pretty impressed
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How drunk is he going to get?!
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If KU isn't at least 6-6 then Charlie Weis should be fired.
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Did Arthur Brown start for Miami? Did Chris Harper start for Oregon?
Oh, what's that?
No?
Well, okay then.
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even phognet doesn't care about this guy.
:jerk:
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he has about 100 less tackles in 3 seasons than arthur and tre did in 6 games last year.
:horrorsurprise:
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Harper did start games at Oregon.
Nice Pick-up Beems, sounds like a difference maker. Look out Big 12.
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To be fair, your defense was terrible. This guy could contribute
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Another McDonalds all american pfft. How is this going to help the fb team?
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looks vaguely familar...
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KU really makes it look effortless.
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looks vaguely familar...
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Did Arthur Brown start for Miami? Did Chris Harper start for Oregon?
Oh, what's that?
No?
Well, okay then.
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Harper was at Oregon one season as a true frosh and had more TD's (5) then this kid had tackles (4) in his fourth season at Notre Dame. Do you understand how the 5th year thing works at Notre Dame? Basically rather then taking a redshirt their first year they wait until after they have been around 4 seasons and decide if they want the kid back for a 5th. So apparently this kid didn't get asked back because they had no use for him not even on special teams.
Brown was at Miami for two seasons didn't play a whole lot not sure why. All the guys he was backing up ended up getting drafted but still the Miami coaches were idiots for not using him more. That is probably why they are no longer employed at Miami. Oklahoma had so many injuries at WR last year they were converting db's to WR and actually playing them with a week of practice time. Apparently that was a better option then putting Justin McCay into a game.
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This guy played behind Manti Teo....five star, number one ranked MLB who will be a first round selection. Not too difficult to see why he had a hard time getting on the field. He should be a pretty good player for KU.
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looks vaguely familar...
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is that a booger?
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Pretty sure Harper was Dennis Dixon's back up and a starting WR lol Arthur didn't start your right but he only had 2 seasons and was behind AA's and 1st Round picks big difference than 3 career tackles in 4 years at a shitty program lol
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This guy played behind Manti Teo....five star, number one ranked MLB who will be a first round selection. Not too difficult to see why he had a hard time getting on the field. He should be a pretty good player for KU.
He only played in four games which means he was not even on special teams. Not a good sign for a lb. if he was any good he would have gone back to Norte dame and played his sr year with Teo gone.
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I wish I was as good of a poster as Beems :driving:
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I hope he is a stud. We are tethered to ku and our bigtime football program can only pull so much dead weight.
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I hope he is a stud. We are tethered to ku and our bigtime football program can only pull so much dead weight.
I'm pretty sure he is. Beemz is rarely wrong.
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Sounds like it was just wrong place/wrong time at Notre Dame for this freak and stud.
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I hope he is a stud. We are tethered to ku and our bigtime football program can only pull so much dead weight.
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Sounds like it was just wrong place/wrong time at Notre Dame for this freak and stud.
Could be the coach's fault this sure thing put up worse than Hrebec numbers.
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Now let's see if oscar Weber can bring in a few 5-star McDonald All-Americans to K-State. Ready, set, go!
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All transfers that played behind better players at a different school suck. End of story.
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Signed,
Curtis Kelly
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Beems, surprised you didn't opt for any pictures of the 13 year olds that did the ku boobs thing for your avatar.
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Now let's see if oscar Weber can bring in a few 5-star McDonald All-Americans to K-State. Ready, set, go!
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It's football season now bruh.
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Big difference in football/basketball. Regardless, most players that transfer for just their senior year end up sucking.
Signed,
Jeremiah Masoli
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I just this guy can keep it from being the traditional ass-kicking we have come to expect.
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Great pick-up.
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I'm surprised this board isn't more impressed, what with all the stars and high rankings and stuff. this guy was GOOD in high school!
Who said we're not impressed? For instance, I wouldn't want him trying to tackle me... No sir-ee!
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Garbage.
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Thought this was going to be a Bryce Brown thread, then remembered he was a 5-Star Army All-American.
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This is a great get for the Hawks. Let the haters hate, Beems. You guys just got yourselves a starter.
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They might win the north now!
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
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Every KSU fan alive should be rooting for this sure thing to make a huge impact. It is in our best interests that ku not be the national joke it has been.
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Every KSU fan alive should be rooting for this sure thing to make a huge impact. It is in our best interests that ku not be the national joke it has been.
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Especially if fans from other regions confuse ku with K-State.
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Every KSU fan alive should be rooting for this sure thing to make a huge impact. It is in our best interests that ku not be the national joke it has been.
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Especially if fans from other regions confuse ku with K-State.
This is true. It was cute when USA Today put our powercat under KU's name in their Final 4 coverage, but that kind of exposure will only hurt us in the long run, when people start associating our football program with their dumpster fire. I think it's time to kill the powercat.
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give us a better chance than Turner Gill did.
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Grunhard proof?
I don't know who Clint Bowen is.
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Pretty low bar there Beems
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Grunhard proof?
I don't know who Clint Bowen is.
Clint Bowen was the co defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach during KU's best years under Mangino, including the 2008 Orange Bowl team.
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Sounds like KU's going to be pretty great Beems. Congrats.
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Pretty low bar there Beems
I don't think you guys would be complaining too much if K-State's next coach came in and signed three 5-stars right off the bat and added another US Army All-American at linebacker.
:dunno:
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Pretty low bar there Beems
I don't think you guys would be complaining too much if K-State's next coach came in and signed three 5-stars right off the bat and added another US Army All-American at linebacker.
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Not at all. I just hope the guys don't suck really huge like they did at Notre Dame.
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If they were all out of High school, I would be a lot more excited. Transferring for one year is just a horrible sign, even as a 5-star. With all that talent and all that experience in the system, not starting is terrible.
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Pretty low bar there Beems
I don't think you guys would be complaining too much if K-State's next coach came in and signed three 5-stars right off the bat and added another US Army All-American at linebacker.
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big difference between signing four all americans, and getting four all american transfers two of them 5th years, and the others showing extreme lack of ability at their former programs. guys like crist and mcdonald or whatever arent going to get your program anywhere.
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Pretty low bar there Beems
I don't think you guys would be complaining too much if K-State's next coach came in and signed three 5-stars right off the bat and added another US Army All-American at linebacker.
:dunno:
the Notre Dame QB lost his starting job and has one year left. The LB never started and has one year left. The BYU QB lost his starting job and it was one of the worst offenses BYU's had in memory. McCay was a disappointment as a receiver. KSU wasn't interested in him as a receiver either. The kid you got from Nebraska was a disappointment this past year. I watched him specifically in their game vs. Ohio State...he was the invisible DL.
These are transfers. Weis will not be signing a bunch of 4 star-plus kids out of high school. He might get a few recycled names but he's not recruiting to Notre Dame.
I'm not sure why you pegged Grunhard as a great developer of players. He had better talent than most teams he faced while a high school coach...how, again, does that suggest anything at the college level?
There is a dramatic difference between coaching in high school and the NFL vs. the college game. Weis has been a massive failure in the college game both as a head coach at Notre Dame and a coordinator at Florida. These are the facts and, before long, you will no longer be able to ignore them.
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Weiss lost more talent then what he brought to ku. The rb from blue springs was a legit player and had three years left to play. Keeston terry was pretty good too. I would trade those two for all the one year bench turds he is bringing in. He has not brought in a single guy that has proven to be any kind of a player and he ran off at least two legit players. Also who is to say berglund isn't a player his credentials are better then the kids who took Chrystal and heaps jobs at Norte dame and byu.
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Pretty low bar there Beems
I don't think you guys would be complaining too much if K-State's next coach came in and signed three 5-stars right off the bat and added another US Army All-American at linebacker.
:dunno:
pretty sure you are trolling here. i mean, you have to be.
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And yet for some reason I still feel pretty confident
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Pretty low bar there Beems
I don't think you guys would be complaining too much if K-State's next coach came in and signed three 5-stars right off the bat and added another US Army All-American at linebacker.
:dunno:
pretty sure you are trolling here. i mean, you have to be.
I'm starting to think Beems really supports KU Football. Huh... imagine that supporting K U F o o t ball.
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Grunhard proof?
I don't know who Clint Bowen is.
Clint Bowen was the co defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach during KU's best years under Mangino, including the 2008 Orange Bowl team.
Wasn't Bill Young the DC for the Orange Bowl season? If so, I don't ever remember that he was a Co-DC at KU.
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Beems is on record as saying he'd take Gill over Snyder.
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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will never be concerned about Charlie Weis at KU. He will get a few players though most of these kids are of the 5th year transfer variety. McCay was being moved to defense if he didn't transfer from OU.
1) Weis will not pull a lot of 4 star kids straight from high school. (I realize KSU will not either but Snyds has never had to in order to be successful)
2) Weis is one of the worst in terms of development. Everything is great if he's got a lot of players with skill and already developed (it's called the NFL)...it's quite another to develop players from the moment they leave their high schools to the college game. He failed miserably doing this at Notre Dame. He inherited a veteran group his first two years there...it went downhill from there.
What Charlie is....
A fantastic offensive coordinator and great mind for that side of the ball.
What Charlie is not...
a great college coach. He's outstanding at working with coordinating a lot of finished products...not so much if he has to develop those products.
What makes Snyder so unique is the culture he develops within a program and the development he achieves.
Weis doesn't have to be good at development. He's got guys like Tim Grunhard and Clint Bowen, who are both excellent at player development. His entire coaching staff is different than it was at Notre Dame outside of a few coaches who he brought back for recruiting purposes. I don't know if Weis will be successful or not, but I do know that he'll give a better chance than Turner Gill did.
Pretty low bar there Beems
I don't think you guys would be complaining too much if K-State's next coach came in and signed three 5-stars right off the bat and added another US Army All-American at linebacker.
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the Notre Dame QB lost his starting job and has one year left. The LB never started and has one year left. The BYU QB lost his starting job and it was one of the worst offenses BYU's had in memory. McCay was a disappointment as a receiver. KSU wasn't interested in him as a receiver either. The kid you got from Nebraska was a disappointment this past year. I watched him specifically in their game vs. Ohio State...he was the invisible DL.
These are transfers. Weis will not be signing a bunch of 4 star-plus kids out of high school. He might get a few recycled names but he's not recruiting to Notre Dame.
I'm not sure why you pegged Grunhard as a great developer of players. He had better talent than most teams he faced while a high school coach...how, again, does that suggest anything at the college level?
There is a dramatic difference between coaching in high school and the NFL vs. the college game. Weis has been a massive failure in the college game both as a head coach at Notre Dame and a coordinator at Florida. These are the facts and, before long, you will no longer be able to ignore them.
Two BCS Bowls and only one losing season in five years at Notre Dame = massive failure. Got it.
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Weiss lost more talent then what he brought to ku. The rb from blue springs was a legit player and had three years left to play. Keeston terry was pretty good too. I would trade those two for all the one year bench turds he is bringing in. He has not brought in a single guy that has proven to be any kind of a player and he ran off at least two legit players. Also who is to say berglund isn't a player his credentials are better then the kids who took Chrystal and heaps jobs at Norte dame and byu.
Terry sucked balls. Miller was good, but he was a FP/TC/etc, and KU has really solid depth at running back. Berglund is another FP/TC/etc and he will most likely end up at North Texas. Do us all a favor and go back to GoPowertard.com.
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Beems is on record as saying he'd take Gill over Snyder.
You are on record for saying that being a K-State fan really sucks.
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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Beems, you realize stars don't matter anymore when they've flopped their entire career, right? I mean would you have been excited to get Lamark Brown to transfer to KU? Ya, he was a 4 star btw.
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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Beems, you realize stars don't matter anymore when they've flopped their entire career, right? I mean would you have been excited to get Lamark Brown to transfer to KU? Ya, he was a 4 star btw.
Notre Dame has more talent than they know what to do with. Were you guys complaining when Curtis Kelly transferred from UConn, or when Arthur Brown transferred from Miami? No. No, you weren't. Oh, but that was different, right?
:rolleyes:
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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Beems, you realize stars don't matter anymore when they've flopped their entire career, right? I mean would you have been excited to get Lamark Brown to transfer to KU? Ya, he was a 4 star btw.
Notre Dame has more talent than they know what to do with. Were you guys complaining when Curtis Kelly transferred from UConn, or when Arthur Brown transferred from Miami? No. No, you weren't. Oh, but that was different, right?
:rolleyes:
Kelly was the exception, not the rule. I mean, I guess I understand what you're saying. I feel better about Arthur Brown developing under Coach Snyder than an unproven Charlie Weiss (At the college level).
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Also, a great example of this: http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-George-Goode-38970 This guy almost transferred to Kstate last year and KU fans were very unimpressed. He's been a "flop" his whole career- shouted ku fans. This guy didn't even put on a uniform this last year. You guys were right. That's how we feel about these fallen football players that are transferring to your school. fwiw
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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Beems, you realize stars don't matter anymore when they've flopped their entire career, right? I mean would you have been excited to get Lamark Brown to transfer to KU? Ya, he was a 4 star btw.
Notre Dame has more talent than they know what to do with. Were you guys complaining when Curtis Kelly transferred from UConn, or when Arthur Brown transferred from Miami? No. No, you weren't. Oh, but that was different, right?
:rolleyes:
1. Curtis and Arthur both had 2 years left to play, these guys have 1.
2. Neither Curtis nor Arthor have torn ligaments in their knee twice, as this guy has. In the 3 seasons in which he didn't blow out his knee he has a combined 11 catches for 109 yards. :ohno:
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I'm starting to think that Charlie Weiss is only planning on being at KU for one season. WTF is he doing to their program? :sdeek:
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WOW KU IS EFFING STACKED. :lol:
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Beems is on record as saying he'd take Gill over Snyder.
You are on record for saying that being a K-State fan really sucks.
Another lie. Shocking.
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We have so much trouble playing against teams loaded with talent. I mean what's KSU's record against Texas some god awful 6-2? USC? an atrocious 2-0?
I think having 4 year burn outs transferring to KU is going to be a HUGE obstacle. Not to mention the coach that gave the best college football program its worst season in school history!!
I think we are in over our heads.
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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Beems, you realize stars don't matter anymore when they've flopped their entire career, right? I mean would you have been excited to get Lamark Brown to transfer to KU? Ya, he was a 4 star btw.
Notre Dame has more talent than they know what to do with. Were you guys complaining when Curtis Kelly transferred from UConn, or when Arthur Brown transferred from Miami? No. No, you weren't. Oh, but that was different, right?
:rolleyes:
:star: :star: :star: :star: :star: not :star: :star: :star: :star:
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Notre Dame has more talent than they know what to do with. Were you guys complaining when Curtis Kelly transferred from UConn, or when Arthur Brown transferred from Miami? No. No, you weren't. Oh, but that was different, right?
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Yes, they do so explain to me how Weis went less than .500 (15-21) his final three seasons? You just talked about him being a "two BCS bowls" coach, correct? So if he had more talent than he knew what to do with and all of the resources Notre Dame provides then how did he go 3-9, 6-6, and 6-6 in his final three seasons AFTER the seasoned veterans Ty Willingham supplied graduated? Interesting. I don't recall seeing Stoops, Saban, Carroll, or any of these coaches have dive bombing records like that three years straight. Hell, Snyder didn't even do that at KSU.
And we had Arthur Brown for three years when he transferred. He really never got a shot playing behind two NFL players in his two seasons. Many of these Notre Dame kids were given a shot and either lost their jobs or couldn't cut it. Now you have them for one season with the rest of the clowns in uniform.
Psst, he won't be recruiting a bunch of 4 stars to KU. He's getting a few transfers who were highly overrated (obviously) coming out of high school and need somewhere so they can see the field in their last season. But after this season I wouldn't expect more Notre Dame transfers.
Can't wait for your spinning rebuttal. Would also like to know how Florida was so terrible on offense this past season. I'll hang up and listen.
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http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/2010/05/11/toke-like-a-champion-today-notre-dame-te-mike-ragone-busted-for-pot-possession/
like gasoline on a fire. weis is an bad person for bringing a recovering pothead to drug-addiction-central, a.k.a lawrencetucky.
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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Beems, you realize stars don't matter anymore when they've flopped their entire career, right? I mean would you have been excited to get Lamark Brown to transfer to KU? Ya, he was a 4 star btw.
Notre Dame has more talent than they know what to do with. Were you guys complaining when Curtis Kelly transferred from UConn, or when Arthur Brown transferred from Miami? No. No, you weren't. Oh, but that was different, right?
:rolleyes:
Kelly was the exception, not the rule. I mean, I guess I understand what you're saying. I feel better about Arthur Brown developing under Coach Snyder than an unproven Charlie Weiss (At the college level).
Comparing a borderline top 100 3-star prospect to Army All-Americans and top 100 4-star/5-star prospects in football is funny. The only reason you guys are acting this way is because these guys are going to KU. If they were going to K-State, you'd be giddy.
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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Beems, you realize stars don't matter anymore when they've flopped their entire career, right? I mean would you have been excited to get Lamark Brown to transfer to KU? Ya, he was a 4 star btw.
Notre Dame has more talent than they know what to do with. Were you guys complaining when Curtis Kelly transferred from UConn, or when Arthur Brown transferred from Miami? No. No, you weren't. Oh, but that was different, right?
:rolleyes:
1. Curtis and Arthur both had 2 years left to play, these guys have 1.
2. Neither Curtis nor Arthor have torn ligaments in their knee twice, as this guy has. In the 3 seasons in which he didn't blow out his knee he has a combined 11 catches for 109 yards. :ohno:
Not all of these guys are 5th year transfers. McCay was the #6 WR prospect in the '10 class, and Heaps was the #1 QB prospect. Both guys will have 2-3 years at KU.
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Beems is on record as saying he'd take Gill over Snyder.
You are on record for saying that being a K-State fan really sucks.
Another lie. Shocking.
You said in it chat after the Colorado sweep. Liar.
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BMW, are they going to do "The Gridiron" again?
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BMW, are they going to do "The Gridiron" again?
Ask someone else, you weirdo.
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Beems is on record as saying he'd take Gill over Snyder.
You are on record for saying that being a K-State fan really sucks.
Another lie. Shocking.
You said in it chat after the Colorado sweep. Liar.
Your lies are piling up. I'd stick to lies about the money you don't have.
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
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KU will dominate this year.
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Beems is on record as saying he'd take Gill over Snyder.
You are on record for saying that being a K-State fan really sucks.
Another lie. Shocking.
You said in it chat after the Colorado sweep. Liar.
Your lies are piling up. I'd stick to lies about the money you don't have.
LOL. Says the guy who's lying right now about saying that being a KSU fan really sucks. You said it, liar. I was in the chat room that night.
Also, I haven't lied about a single thing. You simply have no clue what a trust fund is. My family is old money, baby.
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
Charlie Weis has more BCS Bowls in five years of head coaching experience than Old Balls does in nearly two decades. LOL.
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
He has been to more BCS Bowls than LHC LHC Bill Snyder and has at least four Super Bowl rings. LOL.
Snyder has been going to bowls before the BCS. He won the Fiesta the year before it became a BCS bowl. Not to mention it didn't take the best football program in the history of collegiate athletics to do it. Bill Belichick has four super bowl rings. Weis couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag with a chainsaw, as evidenced by his stint Florida.
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So you were in a KSU chat about a Colorado game? What a weirdo.
And ftw, I said "sometimes" so you are lying. Just like lying about your money.
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So you were in a KSU chat about a Colorado game? What a weirdo.
And ftw, I said "sometimes" so you are lying. Just like lying about your money.
So you just admitted that you're a liar. And why do you continue to obsess over my trust fund? Weirdo.
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
He has been to more BCS Bowls than LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder and has at least four Super Bowl rings. LOL.
Snyder has been going to bowls before the BCS. He won the Fiesta the year before it became a BCS bowl. Not to mention it didn't take the best football program in the history of collegiate athletics to do it. Bill Belichick has four super bowl rings. Weis couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag with a chainsaw, as evidenced by his stint Florida.
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So you were in a KSU chat about a Colorado game? What a weirdo.
And ftw, I said "sometimes" so you are lying. Just like lying about your money.
So you just admitted that you're a liar. And why do you continue to obsess over my trust fund? Weirdo.
Lol, you should stalk me more and then lie a bunch. :sdeek:
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Liarhawk the weirdo. :lol:
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
Charlie Weis has more BCS Bowls in five years of head coaching experience than Old Balls does in nearly two decades. LOL.
effing RC Slocum, Frank solich, Bob Toledo, Rick Neuheisel, and many, many more have BCS bowls as well. And, like Weis, they have also been fired. Great college head coaches don't get fired. We have one headed to the hall of fame btw.
I should have mentioned that the coaches named above and many, many more actually built programs up and had more consistency than Weis he basically took a Notre Dame ship that was sailing well w/ seasoned veterans and then wrecked it into the dock.
BTW, I noticed you didn't respond to my latest post. I'll accept that as your tap out. It is very difficult to explain why your new head coach was fired from his head gig (that had every resource to be successful) and why he tanked (15-21) when he started getting his own players. Did you ever care to notice that he wants players that he recruited to Notre Dame and FAILED there? It sounds to me like not learning from your first experience.
BTW, Leach wasn't interested. (comical)
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
Charlie Weis has more BCS Bowls in five years of head coaching experience than Old Balls does in nearly two decades. LOL.
effing RC Slocum, Frank solich, Bob Toledo, Rick Neuheisel, and many, many more have BCS bowls as well. And, like Weis, they have also been fired. Great college head coaches don't get fired. We have one headed to the hall of fame btw.
I should have mentioned that the coaches named above and many, many more actually built programs up and had more consistency than Weis he basically took a Notre Dame ship that was sailing well w/ seasoned veterans and then wrecked it into the dock.
BTW, I noticed you didn't respond to my latest post. I'll accept that as your tap out. It is very difficult to explain why your new head coach was fired from his head gig (that had every resource to be successful) and why he tanked (15-21) when he started getting his own players. Did you ever care to notice that he wants players that he recruited to Notre Dame and FAILED there? It sounds to me like not learning from your first experience.
BTW, Leach wasn't interested. (comical)
This could be cut and pasted on the Fire John Currie board with Weber instead of Weis. :frown:
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effing RC Slocum, Frank solich, Bob Toledo, Rick Neuheisel, and many, many more have BCS bowls as well. And, like Weis, they have also been fired. Great college head coaches don't get fired.
cough, cough. oscar weber. cough, cough.
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Liarhawk it seems like you don't have any friends. You need friends in a place like this. I could be a friend to you.
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
Charlie Weis has more BCS Bowls in five years of head coaching experience than Old Balls does in nearly two decades. LOL.
effing RC Slocum, Frank solich, Bob Toledo, Rick Neuheisel, and many, many more have BCS bowls as well. And, like Weis, they have also been fired. Great college head coaches don't get fired. We have one headed to the hall of fame btw.
I should have mentioned that the coaches named above and many, many more actually built programs up and had more consistency than Weis he basically took a Notre Dame ship that was sailing well w/ seasoned veterans and then wrecked it into the dock.
BTW, I noticed you didn't respond to my latest post. I'll accept that as your tap out. It is very difficult to explain why your new head coach was fired from his head gig (that had every resource to be successful) and why he tanked (15-21) when he started getting his own players. Did you ever care to notice that he wants players that he recruited to Notre Dame and FAILED there? It sounds to me like not learning from your first experience.
BTW, Leach wasn't interested. (comical)
Old Balls was essentially fired from K-State after stinking up the joint in '04 and '05. Then he came back once K-State realized that they couldn't win without him.
As for your other post, we've been over the Charlie Weis hire ad nauseum. Notre Dame fans were on the KU boards after he was hired and essentially said that the reason he failed at Notre Dame was because he didn't have the right coaches on the defensive side of the ball, and also because Tyrone Willingham left some huge gaps on the depth chart that took a while to refill. It was also Weis' first (college) head coaching job. Bottom line... the guy has won at every single level he's been at, and he's considered one of the best offensive minds in the game. You don't have that much success at the pro level if you can't coach. I'm pretty confident that Weis learned from his mistakes at Notre Dame, and will be able to at least succeed at a similar level as Mangino. They are essentially the same type of coach, except Weis was offensive coordinator for the Patriots, not Oklahoma.
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Why didn't the old sausage win at Florida? Ey "old money?"
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:lol:
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Old Balls was essentially fired from K-State after stinking up the joint in '04 and '05.
cool story bro
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You know you have little brother syndrome when you come to a KSU board to post how many wahed up transfers KU has.
(insert OregonFlop's response about KU's bball program, and the Orange Bowl here)
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Not all of these guys are 5th year transfers. McCay was the #6 WR prospect in the '10 class, and Heaps was the #1 QB prospect. Both guys will have 2-3 years at KU.
McCay was either getting moved from WR to defense or cut for being a TC, so you can give me your #6 WR prospect all you want, he wasn't the 6th best reciever at OU. Also, OU had their worst crop of recievers ever last year after Broyles. They had 4-5 drops per game and McCay still couldn't see the field. Not concerned.
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Should be able to immediately see what kind of coach Charlie Weis is with all this experienced talent ready to play right away.
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Should be able to immediately see what kind of coach Charlie Weis is with all this experienced talent ready to play right away.
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Add another top 100 4-star transfer from Notre Dame to the list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansas/football/recruiting/player-Mike-Ragone-43391;_ylt=AhGCS1vx41oQrIWlGcbFNgvBsJB4)
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Beems, you realize stars don't matter anymore when they've flopped their entire career, right? I mean would you have been excited to get Lamark Brown to transfer to KU? Ya, he was a 4 star btw.
Notre Dame has more talent than they know what to do with. Were you guys complaining when Curtis Kelly transferred from UConn, or when Arthur Brown transferred from Miami? No. No, you weren't. Oh, but that was different, right?
:rolleyes:
Kelly was the exception, not the rule. I mean, I guess I understand what you're saying. I feel better about Arthur Brown developing under Coach Snyder than an unproven Charlie Weiss (At the college level).
Comparing a borderline top 100 3-star prospect to Army All-Americans and top 100 4-star/5-star prospects in football is funny. The only reason you guys are acting this way is because these guys are going to KU. If they were going to K-State, you'd be giddy.
Wut? :curse: Kelly was a 5 star. Whatever, congrats, beems!
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Should be able to immediately see what kind of coach Charlie Weis is with all this experienced talent ready to play right away.
Its pretty clear to me if KU isn't in a bowl game next year that Weis' first season will be a complete an utter failure.
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Should be able to immediately see what kind of coach Charlie Weis is with all this experienced talent ready to play right away.
Its pretty clear to me if KU isn't in a bowl game next year that Weis' first season will be a complete an utter failure.
They should be in Holiday or better with these studs.
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I think I read Weis has filled up all 25 of his spots this year. He has something like 10 high school kids and 15 transfers with about 5 of those only having one year to play. Clearly he's setting himself up for a year 1 BCS run just like he had at Notre Dame.
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
Charlie Weis has more BCS Bowls in five years of head coaching experience than Old Balls does in nearly two decades. LOL.
effing RC Slocum, Frank solich, Bob Toledo, Rick Neuheisel, and many, many more have BCS bowls as well. And, like Weis, they have also been fired. Great college head coaches don't get fired. We have one headed to the hall of fame btw.
I should have mentioned that the coaches named above and many, many more actually built programs up and had more consistency than Weis he basically took a Notre Dame ship that was sailing well w/ seasoned veterans and then wrecked it into the dock.
BTW, I noticed you didn't respond to my latest post. I'll accept that as your tap out. It is very difficult to explain why your new head coach was fired from his head gig (that had every resource to be successful) and why he tanked (15-21) when he started getting his own players. Did you ever care to notice that he wants players that he recruited to Notre Dame and FAILED there? It sounds to me like not learning from your first experience.
BTW, Leach wasn't interested. (comical)
Old Balls was essentially fired from K-State after stinking up the joint in '04 and '05. Then he came back once K-State realized that they couldn't win without him.
As for your other post, we've been over the Charlie Weis hire ad nauseum. Notre Dame fans were on the KU boards after he was hired and essentially said that the reason he failed at Notre Dame was because he didn't have the right coaches on the defensive side of the ball, and also because Tyrone Willingham left some huge gaps on the depth chart that took a while to refill. It was also Weis' first (college) head coaching job. Bottom line... the guy has won at every single level he's been at, and he's considered one of the best offensive minds in the game. You don't have that much success at the pro level if you can't coach. I'm pretty confident that Weis learned from his mistakes at Notre Dame, and will be able to at least succeed at a similar level as Mangino. They are essentially the same type of coach, except Weis was offensive coordinator for the Patriots, not Oklahoma.
So you're one of these idiots who proclaims that Snyder was fired? Yeah, sure. The guy is a legend and a hall of fame coach. The only guy to ever win in Manhattan and "he really didn't retire...he was pushed out". Yep, two years after winning the conference he was "fired"...got it.
A piss poor excuse to say Charlie Weiss would have been successful if he had the right coaches. It's a structural and cultural issue with Weiss just as it is with most unsuccessful coaches. I don't think anybody here will disagree that Weiss possesses a very good mind for the offensive side of the ball...nobody. But being a head coach is a CEO where your stamp is on every bit of the program. Snyder has won with numerous assistants and coordinators...some good and some not so good. He went 10-3 last year w/ what nobody would consider a great coaching staff.
Basically what you're saying about Weiss is that...
1) he had more talent than what he knew what to do with (your words, not mine)
2) he had every and any resource imaginable to be successful (Notre Dame speaks for itself in this regard)
3) he had a national name coming off two super bowl wins
4) he was handed a team with veteran players who had developed skills
and he failed. Again, Snyder went 10-3 with a roster lacking "more talent than he knew what to do with", meager resources with which to be successful, and an average coaching staff.
These are the facts and they are indisputable.
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
shut up.
beems?
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
shut up.
beems?
Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in. I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way. Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best. KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke. Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least. I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.
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kill the pervy avatar. we aren't GPC
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
shut up.
beems?
Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in. I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way. Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best. KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke. Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least. I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.
Why not? You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info? You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now.
So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?
Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos
South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia
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I'd say 4-5 wins would be the upper limit for them. Win against SDS,Rice, Northern Ill(On the road but a BCS team should win this 95% of the time), and maybe win 1 or2 against ISU Tech and Baylor.
The sad part is 4 wins would be solid improvement.
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
shut up.
beems?
Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in. I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way. Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best. KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke. Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least. I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.
Why not? You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info? You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now.
So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?
Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos
South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia
KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU. KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech. I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know. All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
shut up.
beems?
Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in. I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way. Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best. KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke. Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least. I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.
Why not? You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info? You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now.
So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?
Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos
South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia
KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU. KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech. I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know. All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.
you stated 7-5 at best. I presented the schedule for you to show me where you get those seven wins. Show me the four conference wins because that will get you to 7-5. I don't see a 4-5 KU team in conference play next year. I can say with 100% certainty that KU will NOT beat TCU, KSU, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, or West Virginia.
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
shut up.
beems?
Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in. I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way. Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best. KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke. Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least. I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.
Why not? You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info? You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now.
So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?
Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos
South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia
KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU. KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech. I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know. All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.
you stated 7-5 at best. I presented the schedule for you to show me where you get those seven wins. Show me the four conference wins because that will get you to 7-5. I don't see a 4-5 KU team in conference play next year. I can say with 100% certainty that KU will NOT beat TCU, KSU, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, or West Virginia.
No you can't. No one expected K-State and Baylor to finish 10-3 last year. KU could easily beat one of those teams on any given night. Look, I realize that the 12-1 Orange Bowl season killed you inside, and you're scared shitless of the things Weis is doing with the current football program, but at least have some dignity.
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7-5...
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7-5...
If everything goes right....
South Dakota St.
Rice
Northern Illinois
TCU
Texas/Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa State
Laugh all you want, but KU was up on Baylor last year, 28-7, before collapsing in the 4th quarter, and that was with Turner Gill on the sidelines for KU and Blake Griffin on the sidelines for Baylor. KU also had a really good shot to beat Iowa State in Ames and had a 21-0 lead on Tech. TCU is good, but they did lose to SMU, and struggled at times against Mountain West competition. I don't think they're going to just come into the Big 12 and dominate.
:dunno:
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
shut up.
beems?
Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in. I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way. Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best. KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke. Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least. I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.
Why not? You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info? You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now.
So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?
Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos
South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia
KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU. KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech. I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know. All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.
you stated 7-5 at best. I presented the schedule for you to show me where you get those seven wins. Show me the four conference wins because that will get you to 7-5. I don't see a 4-5 KU team in conference play next year. I can say with 100% certainty that KU will NOT beat TCU, KSU, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, or West Virginia.
No you can't. No one expected K-State and Baylor to finish 10-3 last year. KU could easily beat one of those teams on any given night. Look, I realize that the 12-1 Orange Bowl season killed you inside, and you're scared shitless of the things Weis is doing with the current football program, but at least have some dignity.
your words glanced right off me as casually as a light spring breeze. Don't compare a team going into it's 3rd year under Snyder vs. that of a 1st year under Weis. First of all, there is zero comparison of the two as head coaches. Secondly, KU is coming off a two season stretch in which they've won 1 conference game, total.
Why did you bring up the Orange Bowl? Nobody here cares about that. KU had one great season in which they didn't face any of the top teams from the South (OU, Texas, and Tech would have destroyed KU).
Nothing about a program with Weis scares me. Nothing. He doesn't have tough football teams. His band of mental midgets in South Bend went 15-21 his last three seasons. Let that sink in...15-21. Don't blame Ty Willingham for his final three years. That is ludicrous. By year three in Manhattan Snyder had many of his own players and went 10-3.
The old "on any given night" is like a candle in the wind. I'll repeat. KU isn't beating TCU or Texas @ home (neither will be close) and they certainly won't win road contests at KSU, OU, Baylor, Tech, or West Virginia.
Obviously you don't know what many of these teams have coming back.
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7-5...
If everything goes right....
South Dakota St.
Rice
Northern Illinois
TCU
Texas/Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa State
Laugh all you want, but KU was up on Baylor last year, 28-7, before collapsing in the 4th quarter, and that was with Turner Gill on the sidelines for KU and Blake Griffin on the sidelines for Baylor. KU also had a really good shot to beat Iowa State in Ames and had a 21-0 lead on Tech. TCU is good, but they did lose to SMU, and struggled at times against Mountain West competition. I don't think they're going to just come into the Big 12 and dominate.
:dunno:
:facepalm:
TCU had plenty of first year starters last year. They will not this year. Their defense will be all over you and their offense will go right through you. That is a program that expects to win...not some first year build up with 4 and 5 star 5th year bust transfers.
Texas may not allow you to cross the 50. You have zero shot at winning that game.
Tech on the road? Nope. I believe they scored 34 unanswered in Lawrence last year. So now you're going to beat them on the road?
Baylor still has plenty of talent. The QB replacing ROBERT griffin won on the road in Columbia a few years ago and looked good against Tech last year. Most of their defense returns. I found it humorous that you mentioned Baylor was down 28-7 at KU last year...and then they exploded for about 400 yards of offense in about 10 minutes of game time. They sleep walked and then turned it on when they had to.
I would put 5 wins as the best case scenario for KU next year.
BTW, KSU will truck KU by 4 TDs or more in Manhattan next year. Mark it down.
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BTW, KSU will truck KU by 4 TDs or more in Manhattan next year. Mark it down.
OH MAN
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7-5...
If everything goes right....
South Dakota St.
Rice
Northern Illinois
TCU
Texas/Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa State
Laugh all you want, but KU was up on Baylor last year, 28-7, before collapsing in the 4th quarter, and that was with Turner Gill on the sidelines for KU and Blake Griffin on the sideline for Baylor
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Yeah what a moron :lol:
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Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002. Kiss my ass, hayseeds.
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Beems, where will KU finish in the Big XII?
this. I want to know where beems believes his "one year wonders" will do for KU in year one. Since he's bragging about stars and Weiss' talents and those of his assistants I would estimate anything less than 8 wins as a predicto would indicate beems doesn't believe his own words.
shut up.
beems?
Still waiting to see who else Weis brings in. I think a few more impact transfers could be on the way. Right now, with the schedule, I'd say 7-5 at best. KU still has a lot of holes on the defensive side of the ball, and the Big 12 is no joke. Basically, I'm hoping that KU shows improvement and manages to be competitive at least. I'm not expecting Weis to just come in and work miracles right away.
Why not? You have instigated a 6 page thread bragging about the collection of 4 and 5 stars Weis is bringing in and now you need more info? You stated Weis just had a tough few years at Notre Dame because of his assistants but he knows what he's doing now.
So, if you have the assistants and the players are you expecting the Patriots roster to transfer to KU or something?
Let's do this...give me your W/L predictos
South Dakota State
Rice
TCU
@ Northern Illinois
@ Kansas State
Oklahoma State
@ Oklahoma
Texas
@ Baylor
@ Texas Tech
Iowa State
@ West Virginia
KU will be improved, but the Big 12 is tough, especially with the addition of West Virginia and TCU. KU needs to win the three non-con games, and then find a few wins between Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech. I don't see us winning many road games, but you never know. All I know is that the program is better now than it was last year.
you stated 7-5 at best. I presented the schedule for you to show me where you get those seven wins. Show me the four conference wins because that will get you to 7-5. I don't see a 4-5 KU team in conference play next year. I can say with 100% certainty that KU will NOT beat TCU, KSU, OU, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, or West Virginia.
No you can't. No one expected K-State and Baylor to finish 10-3 last year. KU could easily beat one of those teams on any given night. Look, I realize that the 12-1 Orange Bowl season killed you inside, and you're scared shitless of the things Weis is doing with the current football program, but at least have some dignity.
your words glanced right off me as casually as a light spring breeze. Don't compare a team going into it's 3rd year under Snyder vs. that of a 1st year under Weis. First of all, there is zero comparison of the two as head coaches. Secondly, KU is coming off a two season stretch in which they've won 1 conference game, total.
Why did you bring up the Orange Bowl? Nobody here cares about that. KU had one great season in which they didn't face any of the top teams from the South (OU, Texas, and Tech would have destroyed KU).
Nothing about a program with Weis scares me. Nothing. He doesn't have tough football teams. His band of mental midgets in South Bend went 15-21 his last three seasons. Let that sink in...15-21. Don't blame Ty Willingham for his final three years. That is ludicrous. By year three in Manhattan Snyder had many of his own players and went 10-3.
The old "on any given night" is like a candle in the wind. I'll repeat. KU isn't beating TCU or Texas @ home (neither will be close) and they certainly won't win road contests at KSU, OU, Baylor, Tech, or West Virginia.
Obviously you don't know what many of these teams have coming back.
You are a clown.
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Seriously beems, what's wrong? Is it this whole mizzou non-con bball game? You seem really upset. Hope everything is ok.
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Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002. Kiss my ass, hayseeds.
really? is that all you got? the ole' "you haven't won a bowl game since '02? Nah, but won a conference championship since '02 huh? Played in both the Fiesta and Cotton since '02.
KU has won two conference games in the past three seasons. As a matter of fact, KSU won more conference games LAST YEAR, alone, than KU has the past four seasons.
Is this your real tap out? I thought the one earlier was a tap out but you came back. I take it this is your last hoorah for this thread. You appear to be bloodied and backed up against the ropes.
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Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002. Kiss my ass, hayseeds.
Love this talking point.
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Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002. Kiss my ass, hayseeds.
Love this talking point.
It is the most adorable thing :3
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Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002. Kiss my ass, hayseeds.
Love this talking point.
It is the most adorable thing :3
it's even more adorable then his ignorance to a final three years of 15-21 and a firing just to say, "two bcs bowls". me = shaking head at that one.
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They will be better but it's only because they couldn't be worse.
If I were a ku fan Id actually be worried that Weiss is just a bandaid and he doesn't have any interest in making ku into anything but a final payday for him.
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Lots of tough talk from a fanbase that hasn't experienced a bowl win since 2002. Kiss my ass, hayseeds.
really? is that all you got? the ole' "you haven't won a bowl game since '02? Nah, but won a conference championship since '02 huh? Played in both the Fiesta and Cotton since '02.
KU has won two conference games in the past three seasons. As a matter of fact, KSU won more conference games LAST YEAR, alone, than KU has the past four seasons.
Is this your real tap out? I thought the one earlier was a tap out but you came back. I take it this is your last hoorah for this thread. You appear to be bloodied and backed up against the ropes.
This is all I will say. KU is improving its talent level, as well as its coaching staff. That can't be denied. Will it be good enough to win 6-7 games next year? I don't know. I could see 6-6/7-5 if everything played out perfectly for KU. Not sure how that's even remotely unreasonable, but hey, you're a butthurt clown who has a huge stick up his ass about the fact that KU has dominated K-State in everything for the better part of 100 years.
I mean, this exact same situation played out a few years ago when Prince was fired and Snyder took over. K-State brought in a 5th year transfer at QB, and turned around and beat KU after losing, 52-21, the year before. Do I think KU will beat K-State next year? No, not at all, but I can tell you that the QB position and the head coach will be better. I can tell you that the strength and conditioning program has improved by leaps and bounds, and I can also tell you that KU has a ton of talent at the skill positions thanks to several nice recruiting classes and transfers.
Bottom line is anyone who guarantees a team will lose to team A/B/C/D six months before the season starts is a total f*cking moron.
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Seriously beems, what's wrong? Is it this whole mizzou non-con bball game? You seem really upset. Hope everything is ok.
STFU, Heath. Your pencil dick athletic director hired oscar Weber, and I'm loving every minute of it. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Everyone quit pissing OH off.
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This is all I will say. KU is improving its talent level, as well as its coaching staff. That can't be denied. Will it be good enough to win 6-7 games next year? I don't know. I could see 6-6/7-5 if everything played out perfectly for KU. Not sure how that's even remotely unreasonable, but hey, you're a butthurt clown who has a huge stick up his ass about the fact that KU has dominated K-State in everything for the better part of 100 years.
I mean, this exact same situation played out a few years ago when Prince was fired and Snyder took over. K-State brought in a 5th year transfer at QB, and turned around and beat KU after losing, 52-21, the year before. Do I think KU will beat K-State next year? No, not at all, but I can tell you that the QB position and the head coach will be better. I can tell you that the strength and conditioning program has improved by leaps and bounds, and I can also tell you that KU has a ton of talent at the skill positions thanks to several nice recruiting classes and transfers.
Bottom line is anyone who guarantees a team will lose to team A/B/C/D six months before the season starts is a total f*cking moron.
"Charlie. THERE'S FIRE UNDER THAT DRESS! HA! hoo ahh."
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Seriously beems, what's wrong? Is it this whole mizzou non-con bball game? You seem really upset. Hope everything is ok.
STFU, Heath. Your pencil dick athletic director hired oscar Weber, and I'm loving every minute of it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Beems meltdown to the point he's throwing out first names = me :popcorn:
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Everyone quit pissing OH off.
i think that kim carnes is a horrible piece of crap, but in this case, he is right.
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Beems, bragging about being "old money" is so very "new money". I mean, really.
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Everyone quit pissing OH off.
Not sure how NOT to piss beems off in this thread (or any thread, for that matter). I guess someone could try this, but it might get too creepy for most of us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9y22VID_3w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9y22VID_3w)
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BMW is actually right. Can't say in advance that a team will 100% for sure lose to another team. Especially after K-State's miraculous season.
The only thing I'm 100% sure about is that Charlie Weis' heavy breathing during a presser is almost as annoying as oscar Webers squeak. Combine that with Bill Selfs studder and Bill Snyders personality and I can hardly stand to listen to any of our local coaches talk for more than 5 seconds.
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BMW is actually right. Can't say in advance that a team will 100% for sure lose to another team. Especially after K-State's miraculous season.
The only thing I'm 100% sure about is that Charlie Weis' heavy breathing during a presser is almost as annoying as oscar Webers squeak. Combine that with Bill Selfs studder and Bill Snyders personality and I can hardly stand to listen to any of our local coaches talk for more than 5 seconds.
great post
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Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
Charlie Weis has more BCS Bowls in five years of head coaching experience than Old Balls does in nearly two decades. LOL.
Well, let's be honest here. If LHC Bill Snyder coached at Notre Dame, had the ability to schedule any team he wanted to, had the coaches and AP both constantly overranking his teams, and had the benefit of the "Notre Dame Rule", he would have been in the BCS 20 years running coming into this season.
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http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2573
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http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2573
Cool to see that they are simulating their gameday crowd this early in the practice season.
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Beems, bragging about being "old money" is so very "new nomoney". I mean, really.
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Meh, KU is improving. McCay could be good. At worst, your quarterbacks are improved. The linebacker will contribute. This is going to be the only major transfer influx though, he's going to have to show he can recruit and develop from here. In his third year, you'll be able to tell if he can succeed or not.
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Beems, bragging about being "old money" is so very "new nomoney". I mean, really.
Why are you so obsessed with my trust fund, weirdo? Get a life.
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Two things repeatedly stated in this thread that are not grounded in fact or reality, but said so many times retards think they are true
1. KU has more talent right now. lol, based on what, a bunch of shitty players who didn't crack the two deep on shitty teams
2. KU has improved lol, when did they do that
KU might get 2 of these 3 game SDSU Rice @NIU. Big XII, pffft no chance. They appear to be worse at every position, save Qb where they went from an F to a D -. Notre Dame could barely beat Army with their 1's
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Beems, bragging about being "old money" is so very "new nomoney". I mean, really.
Why are you so obsessed with my trust fund, weirdo? Get a life.
It's like you don't know that everyone knows who you are and that you aren't rich at all?
So weird
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KU could conceivably lose to both Rice and NIU...I mean they could be THAT bad
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Beems, bragging about being "old money" is so very "new nomoney". I mean, really.
Why are you so obsessed with my trust fund, weirdo? Get a life.
It's like you don't know that everyone knows who you are and that you aren't rich at all?
So weird
Never claimed to be rich. Doesn't mean my family doesn't have a $2 million trust fund. You don't know what a trust fund is, obviously. Creep.
Trust law:
The trustee may be either a person or a legal entity such as a company. A trust may have one or multiple trustees. A trustee has many rights and responsibilities; these vary from trust to trust depending on the type of the trust. A trust generally will not fail solely for want of a trustee.
The beneficiaries are beneficial (or equitable) owners of the trust property. Either immediately or eventually, the beneficiaries will receive income from the trust property, or they will receive the property itself. The extent of a beneficiary's interest depends on the wording of the trust document. One beneficiary may be entitled to income (for example, interest from a bank account), whereas another may be entitled to the entirety of the trust property when he attains the age of twenty-five years. The settlor has much discretion when creating the trust, subject to some limitations imposed by law.
Dynasty Trust (also known as a generation-skipping trust). A type of trust in which assets are passed down to the grantor's grandchildren, not the grantor's children. The children of the grantor never take title to the assets. This allows the grantor to avoid the estate taxes that would apply if the assets were transferred to his or her children first. Generation-skipping trusts can still be used to provide financial benefits to a grantor's children, however, because any income generated by the trust's assets can be made accessible to the grantor's children while still leaving the assets in trust for the grandchildren.
Now quit obsessing over my trust fund and my personal life you rough ridin' pyscho.
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Well Mccay has to sit out a year now. Thoughts, beems?
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Beems, I had dinner w/LSOC a couple weeks ago and talked trust funds with him. He knows what one is.
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Well Mccay has to sit out a year now. Thoughts, beems?
will be good for him imo
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Well Mccay has to sit out a year now. Thoughts, beems?
Sucks, but I don't think KU's problems are at the receiver position. Our problem last year was at QB and on defense. We actually have some pretty solid receivers on the roster, thanks to several good recruiting classes. Daymond Patterson is back this year after a season ending injury last year as well.
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Beems, I had dinner w/LSOC a couple weeks ago and talked trust funds with him. He knows what one is.
Good, then I'm sure you know that there are multiple types of trust funds and that the founder of the trust has discretion in how those trust funds are utilized. Now let it go, for the love of God.
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Beems, I had dinner w/LSOC a couple weeks ago and talked trust funds with him. He knows what one is.
Good, then I'm sure you know that there are multiple types of trust funds and that the founder of the trust has discretion in how those trust funds are utilized. Now let it go, for the love of God.
Yeah, we all know that.
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More on McCay:
April 20, 2012
LAWRENCE, Kan. - The University of Kansas will appeal sophomore wide receiverJustin McCay'seligibility waiver request directly to the NCAA Subcommittee for Legislative Relief after the NCAA staff Friday denied KU's original waiver request.
KU, because of McCay's extenuating personal circumstances, had requested a waiver of the NCAA's rule that requires transfers to sit out a year of competition. The NCAA staff informed KU Friday that it could not approve KU's request for a waiver based on the guidelines the staff is required to follow.
The NCAA staff, however, recommended that KU appeal the decision to the Subcommittee for Legislative Relief, which is comprised of representatives from conferences and universities from around the country. The Subcommittee is the only group with the authority to deviate from the waiver guidelines that the NCAA staff is required to follow when approving waiver requests.
"We are disappointed in the NCAA staff's decision," said head coach Charlie Weis. "But we will take its advice and will appeal to the Subcommittee. We certainly hope that the members of the Subcommittee, who work day-to-day on campuses and in conference offices, will see Justin's situation for what it is and make a decision that is in his best interest.
"I've spoken to Justin and he understands the initial ruling by the NCAA and is encouraged that they recommended that we appeal his case to the Subcommittee. He will make a statement after the ruling by the Subcommittee."
KU will make its appeal by next Tuesday, April 24. The Subcommittee will make its decision by 5 p.m., Tuesday, May 1.
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I like what I am hearing out of KU! Weis is doing it right as it shows he has learned from his mistakes at ND. KU has a great S&C coach, what was reall needed and it sounds as if he has the right coaches in place for KU to be successfull. Dayne will have a stellar year!!! If they have the talent to surround him with and the protection to protect Dayne will have 3000 plus yards. People and fans give Dayne a hard time at ND but he played a half a season 2 years ago with around 2500 yards passing. Last year, Dayne did not get a fair deal at all. South Florida was one of the most horrific games I had ever witnessed! Dayne throws a pick in the end zone and BK benches him for the rest of the season. I think BK was always in favor of Reese as he threw 2 horrible picks in the second half and remains the starter for entire season. Dayne should have remained the starter the entire season but I think BK was feeling the pressure!
I am really pushing for KU this year as I truely beleive they will be the sleeper in the Big 12 this year!
Suck on that, 'Hatter.
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I like what I am hearing out of KU! Weis is doing it right as it shows he has learned from his mistakes at ND. KU has a great S&C coach, what was reall needed and it sounds as if he has the right coaches in place for KU to be successfull. Dayne will have a stellar year!!! If they have the talent to surround him with and the protection to protect Dayne will have 3000 plus yards. People and fans give Dayne a hard time at ND but he played a half a season 2 years ago with around 2500 yards passing. Last year, Dayne did not get a fair deal at all. South Florida was one of the most horrific games I had ever witnessed! Dayne throws a pick in the end zone and BK benches him for the rest of the season. I think BK was always in favor of Reese as he threw 2 horrible picks in the second half and remains the starter for entire season. Dayne should have remained the starter the entire season but I think BK was feeling the pressure!
I am really pushing for KU this year as I truely beleive they will be the sleeper in the Big 12 this year!
Suck on that, 'Hatter.
he's building a monster
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I like what I am hearing out of KU! Weis is doing it right as it shows he has learned from his mistakes at ND. KU has a great S&C coach, what was reall needed and it sounds as if he has the right coaches in place for KU to be successfull. Dayne will have a stellar year!!! If they have the talent to surround him with and the protection to protect Dayne will have 3000 plus yards. People and fans give Dayne a hard time at ND but he played a half a season 2 years ago with around 2500 yards passing. Last year, Dayne did not get a fair deal at all. South Florida was one of the most horrific games I had ever witnessed! Dayne throws a pick in the end zone and BK benches him for the rest of the season. I think BK was always in favor of Reese as he threw 2 horrible picks in the second half and remains the starter for entire season. Dayne should have remained the starter the entire season but I think BK was feeling the pressure!
I am really pushing for KU this year as I truely beleive they will be the sleeper in the Big 12 this year!
Suck on that, 'Hatter.
Anybody that writes with that many exclamation points is an idiot
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Serious question, how many other teams in the Big 12 will start a 5-star QB next year?
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beems is hitting his stride
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Serious question, how many other teams in the Big 12 will start a 5-star QB next year?
Serious question, how many teams will start a quarterback with more than 4 wins?
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Serious question, how many other teams in the Big 12 will start a 5-star QB next year?
Serious question, how many teams will start a quarterback with more than 4 wins?
You can't answer a question with another question.
:shakesfist:
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Serious question, how many other teams in the Big 12 will start a 5-star QB next year?
meh. would you rather have a QB who is a 5 star coming out of high school (means nothing) and lost his starting job or top 10 pick in the draft (proof his talents translate and he produced in college)? Because Klein beat a heisman winning - 2nd overall pick and another top 15 pick in Tannehill.
So as for the 5 star...who cares. The Big 12 is loaded with QBs nearly every season who are ultimately 1st rounders.
'gratis though on potential. Too bad KU doesn't have what these others have surrounding their QBs.
KSU beats KU in '12 by 28 or more. It will happen. thanks for stopping by, Beems. Look out for Mercury Burton.
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KU has sucked for a really long time. They'll probably keep sucking unless they get a miracle hire like a Snyder or Beamer or whoever. I don't think Charlie Weis is that hire.
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Used to follow ND football quite a bit, and I don't think I've ever been as frustrated with a qb as I was w/ Crist.
Maybe Carson Coffman.