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From Illini Insider:
"Well, the last Illini tie has been severed. Good luck to all ..."
"Jerrance Howard will one way or another end up being an assistant in Kansas!"
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thanks LUKE!!!!!!!
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Billy Donovan ftw.
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No way he ends up on our staff, only washed up recently unemployed coaches will come to work for oscar.
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Billy Donovan ftw.
Sorry Mr Bread, but Illini Insider says it's two horse race between Kansas schools!
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I don't know about Jerrance, but I am pretty sure you will end up with Jay Price. Not a great consolation prize by any means.
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The real question is, would Jerrance Howard prefer driving an ice cream truck around (recruiting to KU) or working the sunrise to sundown construction job where the task of building is never finished (recruiting to KSU).
I hope he comes to Kansas State but a lot of it depends on how hard he's willing to work at his next job.
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The real question is, would Jerrance Howard prefer driving an ice cream truck around (recruiting to KU) or working the sunrise to sundown construction job where the task of building is never finished (recruiting to KSU).
I hope he comes to Kansas State but a lot of it depends on how hard he's willing to work at his next job.
He isn't going to KU. Their only staff opening is the DOBO and he can't recruit as the DOBO.
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The real question is, would Jerrance Howard prefer driving an ice cream truck around (recruiting to KU) or working the sunrise to sundown construction job where the task of building is never finished (recruiting to KSU).
I hope he comes to Kansas State but a lot of it depends on how hard he's willing to work at his next job.
He isn't going to KU. Their only staff opening is the DOBO and he can't recruit as the DOBO.
Don't count out Self. The DOBO may still be more appealing than the sunrise to sundown construction job.
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Well, the guy might be looking to add another dimension to his resume rather than just "salesman". I'd say the DOBO position at KU would fit that criteria pretty well.
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Can you please add Marshall as an option?
T-Y,
ETP
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yeah, seff will give him whatever he wants in order to keep him away if needed Re: mario little.
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yeah, seff will give him whatever he wants in order to keep him away if needed Re: mario little.
yep
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Billy Donovan ftw.
Sorry Mr Bread, but Illini Insider says it's two horse race between Kansas schools!
The only inside info those guys get is from essing their own dees. Wait, that's just semen. They don't know crap.
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yeah, seff will give him whatever he wants in order to keep him away if needed Re: mario little.
yep
He can give him all he wants, but it won't change the fact that it would be horrible for his career to become a DOBO at this point. Even though it is at a blueblood a DOBO position would be a huge step back in job prestige at this point. Hinson got a head coaching job from the DOBO because he was a head coach for 11 years before going to KU. Howard has been an assistant coach for five years. There will be plenty of assistant coaching positions that open up this spring if the current openings at Florida and Kansas State don't work for him.
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He can give him all he wants, but it won't change the fact that it would be horrible for his career to become a DOBO at this point. Even though it is at a blueblood a DOBO position would be a huge step back in job prestige at this point. Hinson got a head coaching job from the DOBO because he was a head coach for 11 years before going to KU. Howard has been an assistant coach for five years. There will be plenty of assistant coaching positions that open up this spring if the current openings at Florida and Kansas State don't work for him.
replace DOBO w/ "head coach at south Carolina". :frown:
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What's "Illini Insider?"
Seriously, I do not know.
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I feel like he will go to KU.. but if we do get him ill be sold on brucey
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yeah, seff will give him whatever he wants in order to keep him away if needed Re: mario little.
yep
He can give him all he wants, but it won't change the fact that it would be horrible for his career to become a DOBO at this point. Even though it is at a blueblood a DOBO position would be a huge step back in job prestige at this point. Hinson got a head coaching job from the DOBO because he was a head coach for 11 years before going to KU. Howard has been an assistant coach for five years. There will be plenty of assistant coaching positions that open up this spring if the current openings at Florida and Kansas State don't work for him.
Unless Bill demotes someone, or he thinks someone else may leave. If I were Dooley, I'd be like "Ya, keep paying me the same salary and don't make me go recruit."
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What's "Illini Insider?"
Seriously, I do not know.
Some dude that created an account yesterday. Don't count on that info being right :lol:
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What's "Illini Insider?"
Seriously, I do not know.
Some dude that created an account yesterday. Don't count on that info being right :lol:
Don't discount Illini Insider. He knows his stuff!
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thanks LUKE!!!!!!!
Eff off :shakesfist:
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What's "Illini Insider?"
Seriously, I do not know.
Some dude that created an account yesterday. Don't count on that info being right :lol:
in case you're in a cave, it has been widely confirmed.
No chance he ends up at KU. But Florida is a possibility.
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Florida
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Why the hell would he pick KSU? I mean he's delivered the recruits to BW before only to see them riding the pine per ilinifan. No way we get anything but coaches nobody wants. We're mumped - I just hope we have enough sense to treat him like the Turner Gill of basketball and axe him after 2 yrs.
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@prepbullseye Per a most reliable source: the two most likely landing spots for Jerrance Howard are either Florida or Memphis.
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April 11, 2012 - Champaign N-G Basketball Beat Writer
Q: Do you think it will hurt the U of I to not have retained Jerrance for recruiting?
A: Dave- We'll see. What I see is a coach building an impressive staff. Dustin Ford and Jamall Walker are excellent, particularly in player development. If you watched last season, that's what this team needs (dribbling, passing, shooting). Recruiting-wise, Walker will handle Chicago and St. Louis; Ford largely will be in Indiana and Ohio; John Groce will be everywhere. And there will be some overlap. This staff wants to operate in a six-hour "breadbasket" of recruiting - while reaching outside of that ratio for the occasional prep school recruitment or otherwise. And six hours is a loose term. Hopefully you get what they mean by that. As for your question, I think it would hurt the U of I more (from a PR/alumni standpoint) if it doesn't handle Jerrance Howard's contract situation well. He played at Illinois, he's an alum (his wife is, too) and he was the lead recruiter on (roughly) half your roster. So we'll see which direction that goes. He's very good on the recruiting trail. And like I wrote in today's News-Gazette - joining oscar Weber at Kansas State is a distinct possibility for Jerrance. If he were making a move today, it would be to K-State. Klee
UPDATE: The chat was edited...it now reads
As for your question, I think it would hurt the U of I more (from a PR/favored alumni standpoint) if it doesn't handle Jerrance Howard's contract situation well. He played at Illinois, he's an alum (so is his wife) and he was the lead recruiter on (roughly) half your roster. Want to lose Deron Williams' influence and good favor? Jerk around his best friend and former roommate. So we'll see which direction that goes. Jerrance is very good on the recruiting trail. And like I wrote in today's News-Gazette - joining oscar Weber at Kansas State is a distinct possibility for Jerrance Howard. Unless something changes, I expect his next job will be in Manhattan. Klee
http://www.illinihq.com/chats/2012-04-09/april-11-illinois-basketball-chat.html (http://www.illinihq.com/chats/2012-04-09/april-11-illinois-basketball-chat.html)
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:thumbs:
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:crossfingers:
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:thumbs:
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Don't get your hopes up :shakesfist:
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Don't get your hopes up :shakesfist:
Would be an excellent motto for WildCat Weber ball 2012-2013.
The poster will be boss in a laid back, don't forget your hug on the way to the locker room way.
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April 11, 2012 - Champaign N-G Basketball Beat Writer
Q: Do you think it will hurt the U of I to not have retained Jerrance for recruiting?
A: Dave- We'll see. What I see is a coach building an impressive staff. Dustin Ford and Jamall Walker are excellent, particularly in player development. If you watched last season, that's what this team needs (dribbling, passing, shooting). Recruiting-wise, Walker will handle Chicago and St. Louis; Ford largely will be in Indiana and Ohio; John Groce will be everywhere. And there will be some overlap. This staff wants to operate in a six-hour "breadbasket" of recruiting - while reaching outside of that ratio for the occasional prep school recruitment or otherwise. And six hours is a loose term. Hopefully you get what they mean by that. As for your question, I think it would hurt the U of I more (from a PR/alumni standpoint) if it doesn't handle Jerrance Howard's contract situation well. He played at Illinois, he's an alum (his wife is, too) and he was the lead recruiter on (roughly) half your roster. So we'll see which direction that goes. He's very good on the recruiting trail. And like I wrote in today's News-Gazette - joining oscar Weber at Kansas State is a distinct possibility for Jerrance. If he were making a move today, it would be to K-State. Klee
UPDATE: The chat was edited...it now reads
As for your question, I think it would hurt the U of I more (from a PR/favored alumni standpoint) if it doesn't handle Jerrance Howard's contract situation well. He played at Illinois, he's an alum (so is his wife) and he was the lead recruiter on (roughly) half your roster. Want to lose Deron Williams' influence and good favor? Jerk around his best friend and former roommate. So we'll see which direction that goes. Jerrance is very good on the recruiting trail. And like I wrote in today's News-Gazette - joining oscar Weber at Kansas State is a distinct possibility for Jerrance Howard. Unless something changes, I expect his next job will be in Manhattan. Klee
http://www.illinihq.com/chats/2012-04-09/april-11-illinois-basketball-chat.html (http://www.illinihq.com/chats/2012-04-09/april-11-illinois-basketball-chat.html)
:pray:
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Is that from a beat writer? Beat writers are the laziest people on the face of the earth. guy probably hasn't even fired off a text asking anyone about Jerrance.
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Is that from a beat writer? Beat writers are the laziest people on the face of the earth. guy probably hasn't even fired off a text asking anyone about Jerrance.
The NG beat writer got his info from Howard, they are chummy and talk daily. Also it appears that Florida may hire Rashon Bruno TwitLink (http://{http://twitter.com/#!/joehoopsreport/status/190246596754161664) and Memphis doesn't appear to be kicking Jimmy Williams to the curb. Looks like KSU may be Howard's only option right now. Howard still has the obstacle of his Illinois contract & he wants most of the $$. The KSU train is leaving the station and Howard has to get on by the end of this week.
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good post GBN
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good post GBN
agreed, but why in the world wouldn't we wait for him? Or just pay him what Illinois owes him? Maybe oscar has some ace in the hole. who knows.
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damnit K-State, leave the train in the station till Jerrance is ready to board!!!!
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damnit K-State, leave the train in the station till Jerrance is ready to board!!!!
exactly. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS TRAIN IS GOING ANYWHERE INTERESTING ANY TIME SOON. WHAT'S YOUR HURRY, TRAIN.
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damnit K-State, leave the train in the station till Jerrance is ready to board!!!!
exactly. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS TRAIN IS GOING ANYWHERE INTERESTING ANY TIME SOON. WHAT'S YOUR HURRY, TRAIN.
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I'm going to choose to believe we are using every advantage and waiting until the current dead period ends (today) to go along with Weber's claim of finishing "by the end of the week". Let those guys make a bunch of calls this week, especially to the '13 class (or even '14) which is where the recruiting emphasis really needs to be right now.
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I'm going to choose to believe we are using every advantage and waiting until the current dead period ends (today) to go along with Weber's claim of finishing "by the end of the week". Let those guys make a bunch of calls this week, especially to the '13 class (or even '14) which is where the recruiting emphasis really needs to be right now.
Why don't we just wait until November to hire him and let him run wild recruiting all summer?
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Does the dead period advantage not apply to JHo since he is still technically employed at UI?
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Does the dead period advantage not apply to JHo since he is still technically employed at UI?
I would think not as UI has three assistants out recruiting now, right?
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I'm going to choose to believe we are using every advantage and waiting until the current dead period ends (today) to go along with Weber's claim of finishing "by the end of the week". Let those guys make a bunch of calls this week, especially to the '13 class (or even '14) which is where the recruiting emphasis really needs to be right now.
Why don't we just wait until November to hire him and let him run wild recruiting all summer?
I'd say there is a difference between wading in the grey area and going on a deep sea diving expedition there. What we are doing now is completely justifiable ie. working out contract details, etc.
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Does the dead period advantage not apply to JHo since he is still technically employed at UI?
I would think not as UI has three assistants out recruiting now, right?
yeah, or we can have him run up a bunch of violations while still at UI and bail at the last moment before the entire ship explodes and sinks to the bottom of lake champlain or whatever.
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Nobody was getting hired this week anyway with our athletic director on a week long vacation where he apparently was going to turn his cellphone off.
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Nobody was getting hired this week anyway with our athletic director on a week long vacation where he apparently was going to turn his cellphone off.
Weiser hunted, what does jc do?
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damnit K-State, leave the train in the station till Jerrance is ready to board!!!!
exactly. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS TRAIN IS GOING ANYWHERE INTERESTING ANY TIME SOON. WHAT'S YOUR HURRY, TRAIN.
Howard has 2 years left on his contract at Illinois for $200k, $210k - he wants most of the $$ plus pride and his future relationship with Illinois is on the line. It seems oscar wants his staff assembled by the end of the week and the idea is to nudge Howard to resolve the situation quickly. Howard talks to Weber a few times each day. Howard knows what Weber & KSU has to offer, he either wants to be on board or he doesn't. It appears that any further delay by Howard is negative for KSU and an indication that he is looking for a "better opportunity." A bird in the hand blah blah.
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Nobody was getting hired this week anyway with our athletic director on a week long vacation where he apparently was going to turn his cellphone off.
Weiser hunted, what does jc do?
take emergency last minute cruises
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Nobody was getting hired this week anyway with our athletic director on a week long vacation where he apparently was going to turn his cellphone off.
Weiser hunted, what does jc do?
Runs off winning basketball coaches and convinces 90% of people it was the right thing to do.
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Nobody was getting hired this week anyway with our athletic director on a week long vacation where he apparently was going to turn his cellphone off.
Weiser hunted, what does jc do?
It depends on who you ask. Most will say that he is on a cruise with his family though.
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Choo Choooo, "All aboard!"-#TeamBruce :ksu:
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Nobody was getting hired this week anyway with our athletic director on a week long vacation where he apparently was going to turn his cellphone off.
Weiser hunted, what does jc do?
chokes himself while masturbating to pictures of oscar weber mowing the lawn.
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Nobody was getting hired this week anyway with our athletic director on a week long vacation where he apparently was going to turn his cellphone off.
Weiser hunted, what does jc do?
It depends on who you ask. Most will say that he is on a cruise with his family though.
And his phone is totally off, guys.
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damnit K-State, leave the train in the station till Jerrance is ready to board!!!!
exactly. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS TRAIN IS GOING ANYWHERE INTERESTING ANY TIME SOON. WHAT'S YOUR HURRY, TRAIN.
Howard has 2 years left on his contract at Illinois for $200k, $210k - he wants most of the $$ plus pride and his future relationship with Illinois is on the line. It seems oscar wants his staff assembled by the end of the week and the idea is to nudge Howard to resolve the situation quickly. Howard talks to Weber a few times each day. Howard knows what Weber & KSU has to offer, he either wants to be on board or he doesn't. It appears that any further delay by Howard is negative for KSU and an indication that he is looking for a "better opportunity." A bird in the hand blah blah.
Sounds like he doesn't really want to be here. And I ONLY want people that really want to be here.
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I want people who are good at their jobs
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obviously needs to be a good fit culturally for the kstate community. what are his thoughts on overalls and the 'merican flag?
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damnit K-State, leave the train in the station till Jerrance is ready to board!!!!
exactly. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS TRAIN IS GOING ANYWHERE INTERESTING ANY TIME SOON. WHAT'S YOUR HURRY, TRAIN.
Howard has 2 years left on his contract at Illinois for $200k, $210k - he wants most of the $$ plus pride and his future relationship with Illinois is on the line. It seems oscar wants his staff assembled by the end of the week and the idea is to nudge Howard to resolve the situation quickly. Howard talks to Weber a few times each day. Howard knows what Weber & KSU has to offer, he either wants to be on board or he doesn't. It appears that any further delay by Howard is negative for KSU and an indication that he is looking for a "better opportunity." A bird in the hand blah blah.
good info. Seems like Jerrance should just leave and not burn any more bridges @UIUC
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damnit K-State, leave the train in the station till Jerrance is ready to board!!!!
exactly. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS TRAIN IS GOING ANYWHERE INTERESTING ANY TIME SOON. WHAT'S YOUR HURRY, TRAIN.
Howard has 2 years left on his contract at Illinois for $200k, $210k - he wants most of the $$ plus pride and his future relationship with Illinois is on the line. It seems oscar wants his staff assembled by the end of the week and the idea is to nudge Howard to resolve the situation quickly. Howard talks to Weber a few times each day. Howard knows what Weber & KSU has to offer, he either wants to be on board or he doesn't. It appears that any further delay by Howard is negative for KSU and an indication that he is looking for a "better opportunity." A bird in the hand blah blah.
Sounds like he doesn't really want to be here. And I ONLY want people that really want to be here.
#gottlieb4ksu
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@prepbullseye: Almost willing to bet everyone that Jerrance Howard winds up at Memphis before Kansas St. Have a very good source on this.
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@prepbullseye: Almost willing to bet everyone that Jerrance Howard winds up at Memphis before Kansas St. Have a very good source on this.
Sounds about right. Forrest or bust.
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@prepbullseye: Almost willing to bet everyone that Jerrance Howard winds up at Memphis before Kansas St. Have a very good source on this.
Sounds about right. Forrest or bust.
unless it happened today, Memphis doesn't even have an opening.
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@prepbullseye: Almost willing to bet everyone that Jerrance Howard winds up at Memphis before Kansas St. Have a very good source on this.
Sounds about right. Forrest or bust.
unless it happened today, Memphis doesn't even have an opening.
It happened today.
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@prepbullseye: Almost willing to bet everyone that Jerrance Howard winds up at Memphis before Kansas St. Have a very good source on this.
Sounds about right. Forrest or bust.
unless it happened today, Memphis doesn't even have an opening.
Does jack Murphy taking another job count?
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@prepbullseye: Almost willing to bet everyone that Jerrance Howard winds up at Memphis before Kansas St. Have a very good source on this.
Sounds about right. Forrest or bust.
unless it happened today, Memphis doesn't even have an opening.
It happened today.
at least we know not all athletic depts suck balls and feces. ours does, but, be happy for your neighbors and friends from other schools.
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Weber has or is negotiating with Jerrance Howard to join the staff.
In other news: Weber still has the fire.
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing (http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing)
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Weber has or is negotiating with Jerrance Howard to join the staff.
In other news: Weber still has the fire.
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing (http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing)
Weber has or is negotiating with Jerrance Howard to join the staff.
In other news: Weber still has the fire.
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing (http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing)
If you love the cats, manhattan, or would not like to get angry anymore I would advise you to NOT read this
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Townie journalists just love the crap out of this guy!
:love:
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Also, glad we are letting Jerrance know who's boss. Remember what happened with Dalonte and his antics? No, thanks, mister.
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If Webs doesn't close the deal on Howard, my expectations for his success in Manhattan are really going to to take a hit.
Get this done, Webs!
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Maybe Webs can't close the deal because John Currie has to give the final say and he's off cruisin'.
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Townie journalists just love the crap out of this guy!
:love:
Man, just imagine when Clay Center gets their hands on this guy.
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“She said, ‘Do you still have the fire inside to be at the highest level?’ ” Weber said.
He did, so Weber accepted the challenge at Kansas State, the small-market program in Manhattan, Kan., in the shadows of a big brother up the road in Lawrence coached by another former Illini guy, Bill Self.
I stopped reading here. I should have listened to wetwillie.
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Weber has or is negotiating with Jerrance Howard to join the staff.
In other news: Weber still has the fire.
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing (http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing)
Weber has or is negotiating with Jerrance Howard to join the staff.
In other news: Weber still has the fire.
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing (http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing)
If you love the cats, manhattan, or would not like to get angry anymore I would advise you to NOT read this
god that was a painful read. webers wife said "where the hell is that?" in reference to manhattan and weber took the kstate job because he loves challenges. jesus christ.
also, at some point in time i am going to read every account possible of the hiring and put together some kind of timeline, because this article says that currie flew to chicago on wednesday to interview him but i swore currie said he went to a dallas hotel room and didn't meet with weber until later.
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also, at some point in time i am going to read every account possible of the hiring and put together some kind of timeline, because this article says that currie flew to chicago on wednesday to interview him but i swore currie said he went to a dallas hotel room and didn't meet with weber until later.
Can you put it in video form and set it to the music from "Unsolved Mysteries"?
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Weber has or is negotiating with Jerrance Howard to join the staff.
In other news: Weber still has the fire.
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing (http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing)
Weber has or is negotiating with Jerrance Howard to join the staff.
In other news: Weber still has the fire.
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing (http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x1221866339/Weber-still-has-the-fire-after-firing)
If you love the cats, manhattan, or would not like to get angry anymore I would advise you to NOT read this
god that was a painful read. webers wife said "where the hell is that?" in reference to manhattan and weber took the kstate job because he loves challenges. jesus christ.
also, at some point in time i am going to read every account possible of the hiring and put together some kind of timeline, because this article says that currie flew to chicago on wednesday to interview him but i swore currie said he went to a dallas hotel room and didn't meet with weber until later.
Currie is a rough ridin' liar who will likely get canned for stealing sometime soon.
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After our press conference the other day, I left town later that afternoon. First I met with our student-athletes.&nb sp; I might with a couple members of our existing staff. Then I got on a plane and went to Dallas. Really what I needed to do at that point after so many things transpiring in the 48 hours previous to that, was be in a position in a hotel room, by myself with a telephone, with a lot of research and charts and stuff, try to focus on the process and the steps we had taken in the process. Late Friday night, we made the decision that we had the opportunity to visit with Coach Weber. I flew on Wednesday and got to Chicago then met with Coach Weber that afternoon. I made a lot more phone calls and all of that kind of stuff. Then on Thursday I went to New Orleans and spent the last couple of days there and visited with a number of different candidates.
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Townie journalists just love the crap out of this guy!
:love:
he's a "coach", rusty. what's not to love? i was disappointed that the writer didn't ask oscar about any specific inbounds plays.
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Currie is a rough ridin' liar who will likely get canned for stealing sometime soon.
Johnny Wichita wants to know, are you talking 50/50 likely or more 70/30 likely? Either way, will take. Weird that he'd go on vacation in such perilous times.
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After our press conference the other day, I left town later that afternoon. First I met with our student-athletes.&nb sp; I might with a couple members of our existing staff. Then I got on a plane and went to Dallas. Really what I needed to do at that point after so many things transpiring in the 48 hours previous to that, was be in a position in a hotel room, by myself with a telephone, with a lot of research and charts and stuff, try to focus on the process and the steps we had taken in the process. Late Friday night, we made the decision that we had the opportunity to visit with Coach Weber. I flew on Wednesday and got to Chicago then met with Coach Weber that afternoon. I made a lot more phone calls and all of that kind of stuff. Then on Thursday I went to New Orleans and spent the last couple of days there and visited with a number of different candidates.
what a weird way to conduct a coaching search. guess all the mhk hotel room were booked tuesday night. he should've checked junction city. also, what's up with the late friday night stuff? friday night before frank took the job? pretty crappy for oscar to be talking to another school about their head coaching position when it didn't even have a vacancy. also, pretty crappy to lie about it. or currie was lying about friday. guess we'll never know...
“Besides Coach Keady trying to get me the job last Sunday, I got a couple of calls starting on Tuesday morning, which were some feelers just trying to get a feeling. Then I got a call from Todd Turner and asked if I could scramble and meet with John. I said I will doing anything possible to get there and then it has been crazy since then. I had two good long meetings and got to know him and I think he got to know me. Last night, I got a call that said we would like for you to become the coach at K-State, come on over to the hotel and we are getting on a plane. It has been a crazy whirlwind, and I have to take a deep breath here, but right now we have a lot to get things done.”
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After our press conference the other day, I left town later that afternoon. First I met with our student-athletes.&nb sp; I might with a couple members of our existing staff. Then I got on a plane and went to Dallas. Really what I needed to do at that point after so many things transpiring in the 48 hours previous to that, was be in a position in a hotel room, by myself with a telephone, with a lot of research and charts and stuff, try to focus on the process and the steps we had taken in the process. Late Friday night, we made the decision that we had the opportunity to visit with Coach Weber. I flew on Wednesday and got to Chicago then met with Coach Weber that afternoon. I made a lot more phone calls and all of that kind of stuff. Then on Thursday I went to New Orleans and spent the last couple of days there and visited with a number of different candidates.
what a weird way to conduct a coaching search. guess all the mhk hotel room were booked tuesday night. he should've checked junction city. also, what's up with the late friday night stuff? friday night before frank took the job? pretty crappy for oscar to be talking to another school about their head coaching position when it didn't even have a vacancy. also, pretty crappy to lie about it. or currie was lying about friday. guess we'll never know...
“Besides Coach Keady trying to get me the job last Sunday, I got a couple of calls starting on Tuesday morning, which were some feelers just trying to get a feeling. Then I got a call from Todd Turner and asked if I could scramble and meet with John. I said I will doing anything possible to get there and then it has been crazy since then. I had two good long meetings and got to know him and I think he got to know me. Last night, I got a call that said we would like for you to become the coach at K-State, come on over to the hotel and we are getting on a plane. It has been a crazy whirlwind, and I have to take a deep breath here, but right now we have a lot to get things done.”
He kind of messed up the timeline a lot in the press conference. Why do you care about this and all the other lying? Not sure what the big deal is.
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I bet it was Sisyphus asserting that he wasn't interested that caused all the travel plans to go awry.
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I don’t have a problem with him going to dallas. I actually think that it’s a smart way to stay under the radar, so to speak. You can be in a hotel room and have coaches fly in or if you need to get on planes and no one is going to recognize you, nor would someone think twice about why a coach is in dallas, necessarily. If I was doing it, that’s what I’d do. However, where John and I differ is that when I’m looking a coach’s “chart” (regardless of whether I'm in Dallas or Manhattan) and it looks like the stock market crash of in the late 20’s, I wouldn’t want that coach to be my head basketball coach.
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I don’t have a problem with him going to dallas. I actually think that it’s a smart way to stay under the radar, so to speak. You can be in a hotel room and have coaches fly in or if you need to get on planes and no one is going to recognize you, nor would someone think twice about why a coach is in dallas, necessarily. If I was doing it, that’s what I’d do.
agreed
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However, where John and I differ is that when I’m looking a coach’s “chart” (regardless of whether I'm in Dallas or Manhattan) and it looks like the stock market crash of in the late 20’s, I wouldn’t want that coach to be my head basketball coach.
More agreed.
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D_Scott is now retweeting sh*t from Memphis blog writers about Jerrance Howard going to DePaul.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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D_Scott is now retweeting sh*t from Memphis blog writers about Jerrance Howard going to DePaul.
While it may or may not be true, I think it's fair to say that pretty much every single one of us is more plugged in than D. Scott.
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It was a vague tweet. It didn't say "he's going to Depaul", it said "look for him to end up there". I still like our chances. He just needs to figure out that contract crap.
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so Brucey said he should have the papers signed on the assistants by tomorrow, right?
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so Brucey said he should have the papers signed on the assistants by tomorrow, right?
supposedly....yes. two assistants.
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D_Scott is now retweeting sh*t from Memphis blog writers about Jerrance Howard going to DePaul.
While it may or may not be true, I think it's fair to say that pretty much every single one of us is more plugged in than D. Scott.
Countdown already started till the GoPo "we knew who the assts were two weeks ago but were sitting on it by request" post :users:
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D_Scott is now retweeting sh*t from Memphis blog writers about Jerrance Howard going to DePaul.
While it may or may not be true, I think it's fair to say that pretty much every single one of us is more plugged in than D. Scott.
Countdown already started till the GoPo "we knew who the assts were two weeks ago but were sitting on it by request" post :users:
:lol:
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D_Scott is now retweeting sh*t from Memphis blog writers about Jerrance Howard going to DePaul.
While it may or may not be true, I think it's fair to say that pretty much every single one of us is more plugged in than D. Scott.
Countdown already started till the GoPo "we knew who the assts were two weeks ago but were sitting on it by request" post :users:
Lol. Yep.
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D_Scott is now retweeting sh*t from Memphis blog writers about Jerrance Howard going to DePaul.
While it may or may not be true, I think it's fair to say that pretty much every single one of us is more plugged in than D. Scott.
Countdown already started till the GoPo "we knew who the assts were two weeks ago but were sitting on it by request" post :users:
:sdeek:
That was a straight Rick James slap to the face.
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:lol:
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D_Scott is now retweeting sh*t from Memphis blog writers about Jerrance Howard going to DePaul.
While it may or may not be true, I think it's fair to say that pretty much every single one of us is more plugged in than D. Scott.
Countdown already started till the GoPo "we knew who the assts were two weeks ago but were sitting on it by request" post :users:
the word
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D_Scott is now retweeting sh*t from Memphis blog writers about Jerrance Howard going to DePaul.
While it may or may not be true, I think it's fair to say that pretty much every single one of us is more plugged in than D. Scott.
Countdown already started till the GoPo "we knew who the assts were two weeks ago but were sitting on it by request" post :users:
:sdeek: :lol:
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:lol:
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Jerrence Howard= Jabari Parker.
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SMU
http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncb/story/_/id/7825471/sources-larry-brown-agrees-become-next-coach-smu-mustangs
:bawl:
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SMU
http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncb/story/_/id/7825471/sources-larry-brown-agrees-become-next-coach-smu-mustangs
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Hmm. Interesting.
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JFC.
I mean, for f*ck sakes. The one thing we need is a recruiter.
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lol, what
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The key component of this story, that compounds it's ridiculousness, is that Jankovich would leave Illinois St. to be HCIW at SMU.
So, yeah, I'm going to write this off as some sort of cosmic anomaly.
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with Weber's revised timeline, one does have to wonder if he was on board here until Brown called.
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So we could've had Larry Brown and Jerrance Howard for 2 years, and then oscar Pearl?
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with Weber's revised timeline, one does have to wonder if he was on board here until Brown called.
Looking like it.
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Our AD was clownsuited by freakin' SMU. Awesome.
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lol
:frown:
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Our AD was clownsuited by freakin' SMU. Awesome.
Our AD has his own set of problems.
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So we could've had Larry Brown and Jerrance Howard for 2 years, and then oscar Pearl?
Depressing as hell
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Our AD was clownsuited by freakin' SMU. Awesome.
Our AD has his own set of problems.
PM deets pls
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stop being so butthurt guys. pointing out that smu just made kstate look like amateur hour is so butthurt city. butttttthurrrrrt.
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with Weber's revised timeline, one does have to wonder if he was on board here until Brown called.
"Howard has reached an agreement to become an assistant on Larry Brown’s staff at Southern Methodist University, Howard said today. Howard spoke with Brown earlier today when the deal was finalized.
An ace recruiter, Howard is familiar with the state of Texas, having worked in an administrative capacity on Billy Gillispie’s staff at Texas A&M.
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Before the SMU job surfaced, the 31-year-old Howard was close to joining Weber’s staff at Kansas State. He also had spoken with Memphis and DePaul about jobs that are open or could become open. "
http://www.illinihq.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2012-04-17/klee-jerrance-smu.html (http://www.illinihq.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2012-04-17/klee-jerrance-smu.html)
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Ira hayes cackling and rolling a blunt as larry plucks jerrance from our staff.
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lol. No one wants to be an assistant at Kstate. lol. #Burnitdown
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Lol
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guys just wait til he puts a staff together. you haven't even given him a chance. :lol:
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There are grumblings that we got stuck in the howard negotiations because the ad was gone and communications broke down
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When forrest takes the UNT job and zeigler lands somewhere else, maybe loosey broosy will offer jabari parkers dad a spot on the bench.
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When forrest takes the UNT job and zeigler lands somewhere else, maybe loosey broosy will offer jabari parkers dad a spot on the bench.
would take
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Effin hate World Wide Wes you know Howard didn't have a choice to come here because of that shady piece of crap.
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howard would rather go to smu than work with a guy he's worked with since 2008.
but, whatever. enjoy supporting someone who makes me uncomfortable, you f'ing losers.
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I'm really glad that we didn't move quickly and aggressively to hire the best recruiter on the market. That would have really sucked. Maybe he slow played us in hopes of something like this becoming available. Seems likely.
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He needs a tx recruiter, if he doesn't get one it will be much more worthy of a meltdown than not getting jerrance IMO
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howard would rather go to smu than work with a guy he's worked with since 2008.
but, whatever. enjoy supporting someone who makes me uncomfortable, you f'ing losers.
I prefer to call him Bubbles.
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howard would rather go to smu than work with a guy he's worked with since 2008.
but, whatever. enjoy supporting someone who makes me uncomfortable, you f'ing losers.
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howard would rather go to smu than work with a guy he's worked with since 2008.
but, whatever. enjoy supporting someone who makes me uncomfortable, you f'ing losers.
Meanwhile Frank's entire staff followed him to a lesser job
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howard would rather go to smu than work with a guy he's worked with since 2008.
but, whatever. enjoy supporting someone who makes me uncomfortable, you f'ing losers.
Meanwhile Frank's entire staff followed him to a lesser job
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the guy is recognized as one of the better recruiters in the country and he chose to take a job at smu working for a 71 year old head coach with jank as possible hciw. i mean you could make this up, but you'd have to have a really good imagination.
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howard would rather go to smu than work with a guy he's worked with since 2008.
but, whatever. enjoy supporting someone who makes me uncomfortable, you f'ing losers.
Meanwhile Frank's entire staff followed him to a lesser job
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the guy is recognized as one of the better recruiters in the country and he chose to take a job at smu working for a 71 year old head coach with jank as possible hciw. i mean you could make this up, but you'd have to have a really good imagination.
It is all a powerplay by world wide wes to get connected with more talented young Basketball player so he can make more money on them in the future, who even knows if larry brown is capable of thought anymore.
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smu's ad is a pimp.
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Can you expand on the world wide wes conspiracy, pretty sure I have no idea wtf you are talking about.
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SMU
http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncb/story/_/id/7825471/sources-larry-brown-agrees-become-next-coach-smu-mustangs
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SMU is a better job than K-State. LOL.
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SMU is a better job than K-State. LOL.
it's sad because it's true. :cry:
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Still don't know why Howard in know as a ace recruiter, I am under full impression he is solidly on the second tier.
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jfc. i'm so embarassed for weber.
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SMU is a better job than K-State. LOL.
it's sad because it's true. :cry:
Yep. They interviewed oscar and said "no thanks." I mean seriously people.
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At least Currie made the best decision for our student athletes by making this hire quickly. (The fact that his groupon getaway was about to expire was not a factor.)
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At least Currie made the best decision for our student athletes by making this hire quickly. (The fact that his groupon getaway was about to expire was not a factor.)
Is that rough rider back from sailing the 7 seas yet? We've got some assistants to hire and a spring game coming up and probably some other crap that needs done.
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I can't speak for all of #teamhalo, but I will admit this development is quite disappointing. I thought oscar would at least be able to get one of these guys. The encouragment of keeping the roster intact (the important parts at least) definitely took a hit.
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SMU
http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncb/story/_/id/7825471/sources-larry-brown-agrees-become-next-coach-smu-mustangs
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SMU is a better job than K-State. LOL.
It's in Dallas. It's a better job than KU. :lol:
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think of all the old balls coaching jokes we couldve made. :frown:
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At least Currie made the best decision for our student athletes by making this hire quickly. (The fact that his groupon getaway was about to expire was not a factor.)
I think we should check Mary Lawrence Elizabeth Cooper-Riley Jones Currie's twitter.
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I've gone right back from begrudging acceptance to complete rage again. eff you, Currie.
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I've gone right back from begrudging acceptance to complete rage again. eff you, Currie.
Yeah, its been a roller coaster. Noot the cool fun kind either, but the kind that swings you one way hard enough to make you puke, then comes back around fast enough so that your puke is still hanging there and hits you in the face. Also, everyone who rides gets some version of salmanilla because they don't wash anything at this park.
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I've gone right back from begrudging acceptance to complete rage again. eff you, Currie.
Yeah, its been a roller coaster. Noot the cool fun kind either, but the kind that swings you one way hard enough to make you puke, then comes back around fast enough so that your puke is still hanging there and hits you in the face. Also, everyone who rides gets some version of salmanilla because they don't wash anything at this park.
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Roller coaster crash.
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Seems to me we should just offer Jerrance more money... it would seem that we're good for it.
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Seems to me we should just offer Jerrance more money... it would seem that we're good for it.
if by "we" you mean Currie then you probably already know why it didn't happen.