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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: catzacker on April 01, 2012, 06:25:12 PM
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Added as an assistant. And the tucks are in heaven now for reasons they cannot explain.
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hooray the guy who just dive bombed SIU's program joins the team yay
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If you were just fired from a head coaching job in the state of illinois come on down!
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:sdeek:
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Added as an assistant. And the tucks are in heaven now for reasons they cannot explain.
The players will love Chris Lowery. I went to school with him and he's a good guy. I think he's a good hire if true. Wasn't he on the short list for HC back when we hired Frank? He's nothing to throw a coach under the bus about.
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abandon ship.
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Everyone knows if you bring in two guys who are proven losers with lots of experience they will start winning. :ksu:
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not sure if serious
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Added as an assistant. And the tucks are in heaven now for reasons they cannot explain.
The players will love Chris Lowery. I went to school with him and he's a good guy. I think he's a good hire if true. Wasn't he on the short list for HC back when we hired Frank? He's nothing to throw a coach under the bus about.
This was right after he took SIU to the Sweet 16 in his third year. He has since firebombed their program into obscurity.
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Added as an assistant. And the tucks are in heaven now for reasons they cannot explain.
The players will love Chris Lowery. I went to school with him and he's a good guy. I think he's a good hire if true. Wasn't he on the short list for HC back when we hired Frank? He's nothing to throw a coach under the bus about.
This was right after he took SIU to the Sweet 16 in his third year. He has since firebombed their program into obscurity.
He was also a TIC candidate, one we made fun of on KSUfans.
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Can he recruit? If not, meh. Weber is a SLTH/X's and O's type coach. No need for another one on the staff. Why are the tucks excited about this guy?
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I mean, let's just fill this thing out with Doc and like Rich Zsovec.
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Can he recruit? If not, meh. Weber is a SLTH/X's and O's type coach. No need for another one on the staff. Why are the tucks excited about this guy?
recriuting is his quote "weakness"
jfc
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there's a trend appearing here on this staff.
KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
And Chris Lowery if Jerrace Howard takes a different assisstant job or stays at Illinois.
Yes, the same Lowery who ran off every good player he recruited, the Lowery who threw every Saluki player under the bus, and the same Lowery who took SIU from the Sweet 16 and almost beating KU there to the basement of the Valley and 8-23. I'm sure OrangePurpleKrush is defending this hire if it happens, and it probably will happen.
Meanwhile, OrangePurpleKrush is getting fired upon on IlliniHQ.
http://forums.illinihq.com/topic/23736-orangekrush117-admits-he-is-a-wff-on-ksu-board/
Good luck EMAW's! Looks to me like most of you have the correct strategy by pushing for Currie to go immediately. :ksu:
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Can he recruit? If not, meh. Weber is a SLTH/X's and O's type coach. No need for another one on the staff. Why are the tucks excited about this guy?
Given that he hasn't had a winning record at Southern Illinois since 2007-2008, I doubt he can recruit all that well. And the 'tucks are probably excited about the guy because he reminds them of Bill Cosby, the gold standard for non-threatening black males.
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disappointing. Hope that means no McClain though. That guy sounds like a waste of space. Price is listed as the lead recruiter for Hill...don't know if that means anything or not, but I would assume Price is coming, and the third guys will be "K-State ties" guy. :flush:
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_Fan has to be super excited that finally, HIS guy is in manhattan.
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Nice hire. Lowery knows how to run a program... into the ground. :D
But seriously, number of conference wins in last five years at SIU:
11 (07-08)
8
6
5
5 (11-12)
Lowery did to SIU what Weber did to Illinois.
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What in the eff?
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What in the eff?
Lowery was an assistant under Weber at Illinois for one year. Probably the best explanation for it.
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I was going to say more, but looks like you guys are on the ball.
:ksu:
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Both Lowery and Weber won their respective leagues first year on the their previous jobs. Looks like a conference title is a lock next year! :emawkid:
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i just want a mulligan for the last week. these assholes are trying to break me.
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Can he recruit? If not, meh. Weber is a SLTH/X's and O's type coach. No need for another one on the staff. Why are the tucks excited about this guy?
Of course he can't recruit. He had a losing record in each of his last four seasons in the Valley. Remarkable that he wasn't fired sooner.
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We are going to X's and O's the crap out of some people.
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I was going to say more, but looks like you guys are on the ball.
:ksu:
I would like to hear more about how awful he is. Players he ran off, stupid crap he did as coach, etc. It will help me through my grieving process.
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Why are the tucks excited about this guy?
Because they are tards?
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No more backdoors against us!
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disappointing. Hope that means no McClain though. That guy sounds like a waste of space. Price is listed as the lead recruiter for Hill...don't know if that means anything or not, but I would assume Price is coming, and the third guys will be "K-State ties" guy. :flush:
I'd be shocked if McClain followed. I'd guess Jerrance Howard will pursue other opportunities. If Lowery is not an April Fool's joke, that probably means Price and Lowery for sure. I don't know much about Lowery, but I think this is giving you some insight on the way Weber operates and what he's learned in his failures at Illinois. Not a effing thing.
Contrast this to our new Head Coach, John Groce: --- Asked about whether he’d consider hiring a high school coach such as Simeon’s Robert Smith as an assistant, Groce didn’t tip his hand. But he did say he’d be open to anyone who gives Illinois the best chance to win games.
“I’m open to putting the best staff together that we can put together. I’m going to turn over every stone,” Groce said. “So we’re going to do our due diligence there.”
oscar Weber may mow his own grass, but he only knows of one stone and he hasn't found anything under that one stone in at least 9 years. I hate to say it, but after overseeing the worse 6 year period in Illinois BB since the early 70's, it appears that clown is not going to change a effing thing.
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No more backdoors against us!
Think of all the super neat out of bounds plays!!!
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zacker, where did you hear this? I haven't seen anything on twitter or the KSU site yet.
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http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Sal-Uki-Digital-Media-Specialist/169755899731103
This may help, as will browsing SalukiTalk.
Two points where I must clear the record.
1. Weber was offered the job at SIU. He turned it down. I would have never dreamed KState would hire him, for more money than he made at Illinois.
2. Lowery was a good recruiter, but he ran all the good recruits off. See Booker to Iowa State, Kevin Dillard to Dayton as prime examples.
I do wish Weber and Lowery the best of luck, but this may be a more difficult situation than they can handle.
Best of luck EMAW's.
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zacker, where did you hear this? I haven't seen anything on twitter or the KSU site yet.
THE Brian Gates is reporting it as fact.
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Why are the tucks excited about this guy?
Because they are tards?
I'm not even shitting you. this isn't april fools. this is a real, serious post. this why we don't get and keep good things.
Truth is we took a major chance on a coach with no Head coaching experience at the Div. 1 level, and combined all the coaches on the staff only had 5 years experience (All Frank). It's not like we lost (got rid) of a coach with 35-40 years of coaching experience that had been to final fours and won championships. We got rid of a coach that had 1 really good year and was fairly mediocre for the other 4. We're replacing that coach with a staff that already has 4-5 times more experience and even better accomplishments. How are people still bagging on this?
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No more backdoors against us!
Hell no, they'll just take it straight to the hole, kinda like Currie did to us
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Why are the tucks excited about this guy?
Because they are tards?
I'm not even shitting you. this isn't april fools. this is a real, serious post. this why we don't get and keep good things.
Truth is we took a major chance on a coach with no Head coaching experience at the Div. 1 level, and combined all the coaches on the staff only had 5 years experience (All Frank). It's not like we lost (got rid) of a coach with 35-40 years of coaching experience that had been to final fours and won championships. We got rid of a coach that had 1 really good year and was fairly mediocre for the other 4. We're replacing that coach with a staff that already has 4-5 times more experience and even better accomplishments. How are people still bagging on this?
to be fair (prob a cheap shot by me) you said just about the exact same thing not a month ago
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I said frank did what should be expected of a KSU coach. Not that I wanted Frank to leave. And I sure and crap didn't say that I wanted oscar rough ridin' Weber and Chris Lowery to run KSU's program into the ground.
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we're all catzacker's now
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:lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:) I mean my god.... :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
in 30 min. when this really sinks in though... :bawl: (ftp://:bawl:)
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_Fan has to be super excited that finally, HIS guy is in manhattan.
I know. :blank:
The first assistant hired was the guy who took what Weber built at Southern Illinois (granted, with a handoff season of Painter inbetween) and ran it into the ground.
But hey, the last coach we got that once coached the Salukis turned out pretty good, maybe it will increase our odds to get two more former Saluki coaches.
:ck:
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Good lord at we reject toy island or what?
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Nice hire. Lowery knows how to run a program... into the ground. :D
But seriously, number of conference wins in last five years at SIU:
11 (07-08)
8
6
5
5 (11-12)
Lowery did to SIU what Weber did to Illinois.
Y'know I'm not going to bother to do the math but I'll bet if you were to add those to the number of conference games Weber won at Illinois the past five years you'd probably approximately equal Frank. Hell of a way to replace a legend Currie, never would have thought of going that route!
:party:
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eff
There are not words to describe the giant crap mudslide this is turning into. How to burn a program to the ground in 36 hours, by John Currie.
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i just want a mulligan for the last week. these assholes are trying to break me.
I can literally feel the spirit leaving my body. By the time this nightmare is over, I will be nothing but a walking corpse if I'm lucky. Otherwise I will simply be a corpse.
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Nice hire. Lowery knows how to run a program... into the ground. :D
But seriously, number of conference wins in last five years at SIU:
11 (07-08)
8
6
5
5 (11-12)
Lowery did to SIU what Weber did to Illinois.
Y'know I'm not going to bother to do the math but I'll bet if you were to add those to the number of conference games Weber won at Illinois the past five years you'd probably approximately equal Frank. Hell of a way to replace a legend Currie, never would have thought of going that route!
:party:
Frank 50-32
oscar 41-50
Lowery 35-55
Lowery got progressively worse. Weber had two disasterous season sandwiched around three seasons similar to the ones Frank had over that same span. I kinda get the feeling Weber is a quitter. Like, he folds when things get tough, but can do pretty well as long as things are going his way.
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Nice hire. Lowery knows how to run a program... into the ground. :D
But seriously, number of conference wins in last five years at SIU:
11 (07-08)
8
6
5
5 (11-12)
Lowery did to SIU what Weber did to Illinois.
Y'know I'm not going to bother to do the math but I'll bet if you were to add those to the number of conference games Weber won at Illinois the past five years you'd probably approximately equal Frank. Hell of a way to replace a legend Currie, never would have thought of going that route!
:party:
Frank 50-32
oscar 41-50
Lowery 35-55
Lowery got progressively worse. Weber had two disasterous season sandwiched around three seasons similar to the ones Frank had over that same span. I kinda get the feeling Weber is a quitter. Like, he folds when things get tough, but can do pretty well as long as things are going his way.
I'm starting to think Weber evaluates talent about as well as Currie and Schultz. We're mumped.
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Nice hire. Lowery knows how to run a program... into the ground. :D
But seriously, number of conference wins in last five years at SIU:
11 (07-08)
8
6
5
5 (11-12)
Lowery did to SIU what Weber did to Illinois.
Y'know I'm not going to bother to do the math but I'll bet if you were to add those to the number of conference games Weber won at Illinois the past five years you'd probably approximately equal Frank. Hell of a way to replace a legend Currie, never would have thought of going that route!
:party:
Frank 50-32
oscar 41-50
Lowery 35-55
Lowery got progressively worse. Weber had two disasterous season sandwiched around three seasons similar to the ones Frank had over that same span. I kinda get the feeling Weber is a quitter. Like, he folds when things get tough, but can do pretty well as long as things are going his way.
Well yeah but Weber + Lowery > Martin because 41 + 35 > 50. That's obviously the chart Currie spent four days studying. :flush:
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Seriously, no hyperbole here at all....this is what this rough ridin' guys do. They take over programs where someone else recruited the talent and they X & O the crap out them. Really grind it.
Then, when their recruiting fails, and it always does (not opinion, this is FACT), they can't win and they get canned.
It's only a matter of time. These are facts. It's happened before, and it will happen again....TO US.
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I do have to clear up one more thing. Lowery was not a good x's and o's coach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNXMZ2RoQ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I do have to clear up one more thing. Lowery was not a good x's and o's coach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNXMZ2RoQ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Wait, so you are saying he neither can recruit or coach well?
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Added as an assistant. And the tucks are in heaven now for reasons they cannot explain.
not all tucks are
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I do have to clear up one more thing. Lowery was not a good x's and o's coach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNXMZ2RoQ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Wait, so you are saying he neither can recruit or coach well?
He landed a Top 30 recruiting class at Southern then chased them off. X's and O's? Bad.
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I do have to clear up one more thing. Lowery was not a good x's and o's coach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNXMZ2RoQ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
While watching that, I noticed a Hitler video about Lowery while at SIU. :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npOa36WoGCE&feature=fvwrel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npOa36WoGCE&feature=fvwrel)
Things are so sad that I've resorted to watching Hitler videos about us and coaches we are bringing in.
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Lowry's demise is similar to Weber's, but much worse. His first few years his teams forced TOs like crazy averaging nearly 25% TO rate. Shooting against them was poor, but they sent teams to the FT line a lot. Offense was pretty average all around, but they scored enough to win. Then the last few years they quit forcing TOs and this year they had one of the worst eFG% defenses in the country. All the while they kept fouling, a lot while getting worse on offense.
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I do have to clear up one more thing. Lowery was not a good x's and o's coach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNXMZ2RoQ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
While watching that, I noticed a Hitler video about Lowery while at SIU. :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npOa36WoGCE&feature=fvwrel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npOa36WoGCE&feature=fvwrel)
Things are so sad that I've resorted to watching Hitler videos about us and coaches we are bringing in.
I'm pretty sure that somewhere in KS law it states that the Board of Regents must purge the administration from top to bottom if they hire an entire coaching staff that has YouTube Hitler videos about them.
It rough ridin' should be.
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It's actually this guy everyone
http://youtu.be/z1cnxwGHdfY?t=3m11s (http://youtu.be/z1cnxwGHdfY?t=3m11s)
:facepalm:
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Lowry's demise is similar to Weber's, but much worse. His first few years his teams forced TOs like crazy averaging nearly 25% TO rate. Shooting against them was poor, but they sent teams to the FT line a lot. Offense was pretty average all around, but they scored enough to win. Then the last few years they quit forcing TOs and this year they had one of the worst eFG% defenses in the country. All the while they kept fouling, a lot while getting worse on offense.
YOU HEAR THAT, YOU MOTHER FUCKERS? IT WAS WORSE!
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Who cares. We need to be as bad as possible so we can run that low life piece of crap mother rough rider Currie out of town. We need chemotherapy (losing) to get rid of the cancer that is Currie
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Lowry's demise is similar to Weber's, but much worse. His first few years his teams forced TOs like crazy averaging nearly 25% TO rate. Shooting against them was poor, but they sent teams to the FT line a lot. Offense was pretty average all around, but they scored enough to win. Then the last few years they quit forcing TOs and this year they had one of the worst eFG% defenses in the country. All the while they kept fouling, a lot while getting worse on offense.
YOU HEAR THAT, YOU MOTHER FUCKERS? IT WAS WORSE!
8-23 for the last year.
Yes, it was much worse.
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Lowry's demise is similar to Weber's, but much worse. His first few years his teams forced TOs like crazy averaging nearly 25% TO rate. Shooting against them was poor, but they sent teams to the FT line a lot. Offense was pretty average all around, but they scored enough to win. Then the last few years they quit forcing TOs and this year they had one of the worst eFG% defenses in the country. All the while they kept fouling, a lot while getting worse on offense.
YOU HEAR THAT, YOU MOTHER FUCKERS? IT WAS WORSE!
If we could somehow extrapolate out the good coaching years from both of them at Southern Illinois, the team would not only be pretty good, but fun to watch.
Its just all the bad years of basketball coaching that they both have strung together lately that worries me.
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8-23 for the last year.
Yes, it was much worse.
Yeah, it was weird. You would know better than me, but I thought his first 3 years or so his teams were really fun to watch. Played ridiculous in your face defense and suffocated people. What the heck happened to him? He was seriously my #1 choice before I realized Weiser was going to give Huggins a chance back in 06.
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The fact that he was able to recruit relatively well for a while is a bright spot. If he can recruit well to Manhattan (it's not like it's any harder than recruiting to SIU) and not run the good players off this time, then this hire might not be entirely bad.
It's certainly understandable to be skeptical about this hire though. I definitely am.
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8-23 for the last year.
Yes, it was much worse.
Yeah, it was weird. You would know better than me, but I thought his first 3 years or so his teams were really fun to watch. Played ridiculous in your face defense and suffocated people. What the heck happened to him? He was seriously my #1 choice before I realized Weiser was going to give Huggins a chance back in 06.
He lost Jamal Tatum and Tony Young. Those two guys bailed out Lowery's "commotion" offensive with clutch 3's all the way through the Sweet 16 run, and almost beat KU that year.
I think what people underestimate in the Southern Illinois stats for Weber was that Matt Painter was a hell of a coach.
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8-23 for the last year.
Yes, it was much worse.
Yeah, it was weird. You would know better than me, but I thought his first 3 years or so his teams were really fun to watch. Played ridiculous in your face defense and suffocated people. What the heck happened to him? He was seriously my #1 choice before I realized Weiser was going to give Huggins a chance back in 06.
He lost Jamal Tatum and Tony Young. Those two guys bailed out Lowery's "commotion" offensive with clutch 3's all the way through the Sweet 16 run, and almost beat KU that year.
I think what people underestimate in the Southern Illinois stats for Weber was that Matt Painter was a hell of a coach.
Ok, enough, point made. We all wanted to kill the rough rider who started this yesterday, some of us long before that. Now, go over to gopowercat.com where your work is needed. Toodles.
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8-23 for the last year.
Yes, it was much worse.
Yeah, it was weird. You would know better than me, but I thought his first 3 years or so his teams were really fun to watch. Played ridiculous in your face defense and suffocated people. What the heck happened to him? He was seriously my #1 choice before I realized Weiser was going to give Huggins a chance back in 06.
He lost Jamal Tatum and Tony Young. Those two guys bailed out Lowery's "commotion" offensive with clutch 3's all the way through the Sweet 16 run, and almost beat KU that year.
I think what people underestimate in the Southern Illinois stats for Weber was that Matt Painter was a hell of a coach.
Ok, enough, point made. We all wanted to kill the rough rider who started this yesterday, some of us long before that. Now, go over to gopowercat.com where your work is needed. Toodles.
I'll let you all melt down in peace. I'm not sure gopowercat would listen.
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8-23 for the last year.
Yes, it was much worse.
Yeah, it was weird. You would know better than me, but I thought his first 3 years or so his teams were really fun to watch. Played ridiculous in your face defense and suffocated people. What the heck happened to him? He was seriously my #1 choice before I realized Weiser was going to give Huggins a chance back in 06.
He lost Jamal Tatum and Tony Young. Those two guys bailed out Lowery's "commotion" offensive with clutch 3's all the way through the Sweet 16 run, and almost beat KU that year.
I think what people underestimate in the Southern Illinois stats for Weber was that Matt Painter was a hell of a coach.
True. And Painter owned Weber at Purdue. Weber was 4-10 against him and lost the last 6 games.
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SalukiNation is spot on.
I'd like to add a few things. Weber is not a good X's and O's coach. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just going to give you a glimpse into the future.
The offense is horrible. Due to a couple of reasons. One is, Bubbles doesn't allow early shots in the possession. This causes last second contested shots. Second, Bubbles doesn't support his players. So no one wants to be the guy with the ball as the shot clock expires. If you don't make the shot, then Bubbles is going to pull you. Or throw the kid under the bus after the game.
After a dead ball or a time out, Bubbles will show off his mastery of the game with a set play. Often times this will result in a shot clock violation or a last second contested three pointer.
Forget about executing a good in bounds play. You will be lucky to in bounds the ball, forget about an open look at the basket.
And his defense is easy to prepare for. He never uses a zone. Not after a timeout. Not on in bounds plays. Never. His approach to the game is from the '70's. He's stubborn as hell.
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Let me put it this way. When lowery, who came to Illinois with weber as an assistant, left after one year to coach SIU, the prevalent reaction among illini fans was one of vast indifference.
I will say this though. He's 10 times less useless than jay price, another one of webers lifelong BFFs i fear you're about to get saddled with
I do have to clear up one more thing. Lowery was not a good x's and o's coach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNXMZ2RoQ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Wait, so you are saying he neither can recruit or coach well?
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SalukiNation is spot on.
I'd like to add a few things. Weber is not a good X's and O's coach. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just going to five you a glimpse into the future.
The offense is horrible. Due to a couple of reasons. One is, Bubbles doesn't allow early shots in the possession. This causes last second contested shots. Second, Bubbles doesn't support his players. So no one wants to be the guy with the ball as the shot clock expires. If you don't make the shot, then Bubbles is going to pull you.
After a dead ball or a time out, Bubbles will show off his mastery of the game with a set play. Often times this will result in a shot clock violation or a last second contested three pointer.
Forget about executing a good in bounds play. You will be lucky to in bounds the ball, forget about an open look at the basket.
And his defense is easy to prepare for. He never uses a zone. Not after a timeout. Not on in bounds plays. Never. His approach to the game is from the '70's. He's stubborn as hell.
Woof. Having Rodney pulled after missing a couple next year is going to be maddening.
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Can someone redirect all incoming IPs from Illinois to gopowercat.com ? I know you don't want to lose the traffic, but take one for the team here. These guys are desperately needed over there.
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SalukiNation is spot on.
I'd like to add a few things. Weber is not a good X's and O's coach. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just going to five you a glimpse into the future.
The offense is horrible. Due to a couple of reasons. One is, Bubbles doesn't allow early shots in the possession. This causes last second contested shots. Second, Bubbles doesn't support his players. So no one wants to be the guy with the ball as the shot clock expires. If you don't make the shot, then Bubbles is going to pull you.
After a dead ball or a time out, Bubbles will show off his mastery of the game with a set play. Often times this will result in a shot clock violation or a last second contested three pointer.
Forget about executing a good in bounds play. You will be lucky to in bounds the ball, forget about an open look at the basket.
And his defense is easy to prepare for. He never uses a zone. Not after a timeout. Not on in bounds plays. Never. His approach to the game is from the '70's. He's stubborn as hell.
Woof. Having Rodney pulled after missing a couple next year is going to be maddening.
I modified my original post. Bubbles will either pull the kids out of the game. Or throw them under the bus to the media after the game. Either way, all of the pressure is on the kids. Bubbles deflects any blame. He has zero accountability.
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SalukiNation is spot on.
I'd like to add a few things. Weber is not a good X's and O's coach. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just going to give you a glimpse into the future.
The offense is horrible. Due to a couple of reasons. One is, Bubbles doesn't allow early shots in the possession. This causes last second contested shots. Second, Bubbles doesn't support his players. So no one wants to be the guy with the ball as the shot clock expires. If you don't make the shot, then Bubbles is going to pull you. Or throw the kid under the bus after the game.
After a dead ball or a time out, Bubbles will show off his mastery of the game with a set play. Often times this will result in a shot clock violation or a last second contested three pointer.
Forget about executing a good in bounds play. You will be lucky to in bounds the ball, forget about an open look at the basket.
And his defense is easy to prepare for. He never uses a zone. Not after a timeout. Not on in bounds plays. Never. His approach to the game is from the '70's. He's stubborn as hell.
Well at least we were never good at in bounds plays
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POSITIVE!
Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
When Lowery and Weber were together at Southern Illinois they went 52-15 and made two NCAA Tournaments, including a Sweet 16.
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What a rough ridin' disgusting good ol boys club.
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What a rough ridin' disgusting good ol boys club.
.776 winning percentage AND a Sweet 16 when together!
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Is that your scout board? I heard it was invaded by retards from Illinois scout. I would apologize for that , but I flatly disavow any association with those assholes
Can someone redirect all incoming IPs from Illinois to gopowercat.com ? I know you don't want to lose the traffic, but take one for the team here. These guys are desperately needed over there.
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Just read the gopowercat board. No sense in trying to talk them into reality when they don't have any sense. I hope rivals doesn't give me too much crap when I call and cancel my trial tomorrow. :dunno:
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SalukiNation is spot on.
I'd like to add a few things. Weber is not a good X's and O's coach. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just going to give you a glimpse into the future.
The offense is horrible. Due to a couple of reasons. One is, Bubbles doesn't allow early shots in the possession. This causes last second contested shots. Second, Bubbles doesn't support his players. So no one wants to be the guy with the ball as the shot clock expires. If you don't make the shot, then Bubbles is going to pull you. Or throw the kid under the bus after the game.After a dead ball or a time out, Bubbles will show off his mastery of the game with a set play. Often times this will result in a shot clock violation or a last second contested three pointer.
Forget about executing a good in bounds play. You will be lucky to in bounds the ball, forget about an open look at the basket.
And his defense is easy to prepare for. He never uses a zone. Not after a timeout. Not on in bounds plays. Never. His approach to the game is from the '70's. He's stubborn as hell.
Well at least we were never good at in bounds plays
eff, Rodney doesn't deserve this, I hope this crapstorm doesn't break him
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Ballplayers just straight up clown suiting the tucks over the Weber hire.
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so two (2) FIRED Head Coaches is better than ONE-???
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so two (2) FIRED Head Coaches is better than ONE-???
Well, LHC Bill Snyder has a staff with several fired former head coaches.
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What a rough ridin' disgusting good ol boys club.
.776 winning percentage AND a Sweet 16 when together!
Since the dynamic duo is back together, maybe we can get Bill Self to recruit for K-State for the next 2 years too.
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Ballplayers just straight up clown suiting the tucks over the Weber hire.
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so two (2) FIRED Head Coaches is better than ONE-???
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so two (2) FIRED Head Coaches is better than ONE-???
Well, LHC LHC Bill Snyder has a staff with several fired former head coaches.
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jfc, they are comparing weber to snyder
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jfc, they are comparing weber to snyder
This surprises you?
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Can he recruit? If not, meh. Weber is a SLTH/X's and O's type coach. No need for another one on the staff. Why are the tucks excited about this guy?
Of course he can't recruit. He had a losing record in each of his last four seasons in the Valley. Remarkable that he wasn't fired sooner.
lets see when Lowery and Weber were together SIU went from the bottom 1/3 of the valley to the sweet 16.
Weber can coach and build a team.
Lowery can recruit. (how else could he have recruited MR basketball in Illinois to play at SIU and drive him off?) Lowery always had several very talented players and kept the bench full, he just could not get them to play as a team.
They are a very good tandem when working together.
Think of it as the Eagles getting back together.
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Think of it as the Eagles getting back together.
I hate the Eagles.
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Think of it as the Eagles getting back together.
I hate the Eagles.
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Man, did you guys get hosed, maybe not Weber so much but Lowery! He's special.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqHd7tO0q-8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqHd7tO0q-8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNXMZ2RoQ8&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNXMZ2RoQ8&feature=relmfu)
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The cool-aid chuggers are comparing Weber to Hartman and Snyder.
I swear if Currie would have introduce a 170 pound sack of crap as head coach, they would be behind him.
Come to think of it, that about what Currie did.
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Yep they are full on #teamweber. Was told on twitter tonight that I am a fool and that I need to support our school.
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Yep they are full on #teamweber. Was told on twitter tonight that I am a fool and that I need to support our school.
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Did you reply that you do support your school, just not the asshats that are running it?
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.776 winning percentage AND a Sweet 16 when together!
They must share a brain.
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.776 winning percentage AND a Sweet 16 when together!
They must share a brain.
The conference winning percentages when they are apart may support that theory
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The cool-aid chuggers are comparing Weber to Hartman and Snyder.
I swear if Currie would have introduce a 170 pound sack of crap as head coach, they would be behind him.
Come to think of it, that about what Currie did.
Yeah but wait... I was told that Jim Wooldridge was the second coming of Jack Hartman. So that actually makes Weber the second coming of Wooldridge. :thumbsup:
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Heh, Doug says he would've tried to bring Lowry.
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If you were just fired from a head coaching job in the state of illinois great lakes region, come on down!
Grumblings that Ernie Zeigler may be in line as an assistant. Fixed that statement for you.
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt (http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt)
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If you were just fired from a head coaching job in the state of illinois great lakes region, come on down!
Grumblings that Ernie Zeigler may be in line as an assistant. Fixed that statement for you.
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt (http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt)
Yeah, I mentioned him in the underwood thread yesterday.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20281.msg509271#msg509271
His son was their best player and will be a Jr. Would be a nice transfer addition.
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If you were just fired from a head coaching job in the state of illinois great lakes region, come on down!
Grumblings that Ernie Zeigler may be in line as an assistant. Fixed that statement for you.
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt (http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt)
Yeah, I mentioned him in the underwood thread yesterday. His son was their best player and will be a Jr. Would be a nice transfer addition.
I also mentioned he had KSU ties. I think he was an assistant for our worst season in history.
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well, two birds then (fired coach/kstate ties)
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If you were just fired from a head coaching job in the state of illinois great lakes region, come on down!
Grumblings that Ernie Zeigler may be in line as an assistant. Fixed that statement for you.
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt (http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt)
Yeah, I mentioned him in the underwood thread yesterday.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20281.msg509271#msg509271
His son was their best player and will be a Jr. Would be a nice transfer addition.
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If you were just fired from a head coaching job in the state of illinois great lakes region, come on down!
Grumblings that Ernie Zeigler may be in line as an assistant. Fixed that statement for you.
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt (http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt)
Yeah, I mentioned him in the underwood thread yesterday.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20281.msg509271#msg509271
His son was their best player and will be a Jr. Would be a nice transfer addition.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/ernie-zeigler-firing-central-michigan-could-set-off-165052229.html
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If you were just fired from a head coaching job in the state of illinois great lakes region, come on down!
Grumblings that Ernie Zeigler may be in line as an assistant. Fixed that statement for you.
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt (http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2012/03/15/sports/doc4f60be6a49755004702533.txt)
Yeah, I mentioned him in the underwood thread yesterday.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20281.msg509271#msg509271
His son was their best player and will be a Jr. Would be a nice transfer addition.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/ernie-zeigler-firing-central-michigan-could-set-off-165052229.html
GO GET 'EM, oscar!
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Ziegler + howard would give us monster recruiters on the bench.
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Byron-Zeigler-119384;_ylt=Al5zgN8cP4xIPMevulnqynHfsJB4
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HIRE 'EM UP!
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Ziegler + howard would give us monster recruiters on the bench.
How much are they paying you?
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Ziegler + howard would give us monster recruiters on the bench.
Um, from what I 've read he couldn't recruit crap, hence the losing record and all. Not sure if serious here?
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I hated the Weber hire. I couldn't do anything about it. I read message boards, that's it. I don't have 2 nickels to give KSU so JC isn't calling me. That said, I have come around to less than hate and I want to watch great hoops. The only way for that to happen is to get recruiters and TX said that BW is still hard after Howard. Also look at Zeiglers recruits under Howland, I don't want him gameplanning alot but if he spends his time recruiting he is an asset.
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shabazz muhammad would make a great addition to our roster.
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shabazz muhammad would make a great addition to our roster.
RUMBLINGS...
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shabazz muhammad would make a great addition to our roster.
RUMBLINGS...
oh wait, nevermind.
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Heh, Doug says he would've tried to bring Lowry.
Impossible _FAN. In Doug love and Weber hate, all things are mutually exclusive. Doug must've been talking about some different, more awesome Lowery
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Heh, Doug says he would've tried to bring Lowry.
Impossible _FAN. In Doug love and Weber hate, all things are mutually exclusive. Doug must've been talking about some different, more awesome Lowery
Doug was talking about Mike Lowery, who is really Will Smith singing Bad Boys a bunch.
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Nick Lowery, former kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. Great Mustache = Great Recruiter.
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Chris' SIU teams played good, touch Defense; struggled on Offense!
Recruiting:
First couple of years @ SIU ... did "steal" some players that could have
gone to higher level ... last several years, not so much ?
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Maybe the rumor of Weber bringing in two great recruits is Zeiglers kids? would take :ksu:
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Maybe the rumor of Weber bringing in two great recruits is Zeiglers kids? would take :ksu:
One is his nephew
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Maybe the rumor of Weber bringing in two great recruits is Zeiglers kids? would take :ksu:
One is his nephew
but in reality arent we all related...
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How Mike Andersony are we going to get? Seems like a lot :dunno:
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K-State men’s basketball coach oscar Weber named the first member of his coaching staff on Thursday, as former Southern Illinois head coach Chris Lowery was selected as an assistant coach.
Lowery’s specific title and duties will be assigned at a later date, as Weber completes his initial staff. Lowery’s contract details are still being finalized, but he will earn a base salary of $210,000 for 2012-13.
“I’m really excited about Chris joining the coaching staff,” said Weber. “He has been with me at both Southern Illinois and Illinois as an assistant coach and we have a great relationship, which is critical in building a staff. He is an outstanding recruiter with great ties to the Midwest and will be a huge asset in helping us to establish a great recruiting base. He also has the added experience of being a head coach for eight years at SIU, which is only going to help me on the bench. I look forward to K-State Nation getting to know Chris and his family.”
Lowery will be reunited with Weber for the third time after serving as his assistant coach for two seasons at Southern Illinois (2001-03) and one season at Illinois (2003-04). During that three-year period, the duo helped the Salukis and Fighting Illini to a combined 78-22 (.780) overall record, including a 43-9 (.827) mark in conference play, with three trips to the NCAA Tournament, including Sweet 16 appearances in 2002 and 2004.
Lowery arrives at K-State after an eight-year stint (2004-12) as the head coach at his alma mater, Southern Illinois, where he posted a 145-116 (.556) overall record with four postseason appearances, two Missouri Valley Conference Championships and one State Farm Missouri Valley Conference Tournament title. His teams won 20 or more games and advanced to the NCAA Tournament on three occasions (2005, 2006, 2007), including a 2007 trip to the Sweet 16. He was twice named the Missouri Valley Coach of the Year (2005, 2007). He collected a 77-67 (.535) record in MVC play, including four seasons of double-digit victories.
Lowery coached two Associated Press honorable mention All-Americans at SIU, including Darren Brooks in 2005 and Jamaal Tatum in 2007. In addition, his players earned numerous Missouri Valley Conference honors, including two Players of the Year (Brooks and Tatum), four Defensive Players of the Year (Brooks, Randal Falker, Bryan Mullins twice), two Freshmen of the Year (Mullins and Kevin Dillard) and one Sixth Man Award (Tony Young). Lowery saw 12 players earn all-conference honors, including five first-team selections. He also coached 10 players to the MVC All-Defense Team, six to the All-Tournament Team, five to the All-Freshman and All-Bench Teams and four to All-Newcomer and Most Improved Teams.
In addition, Lowery’s teams were stellar in the classroom at SIU, as two players earned Capital One Academic All-America honors during his tenure, including first team accolades by Bryan Mullins in 2009. He also saw two players (Tatum and Mullins) collect MVC Scholar-Athlete of the Year honors, while eight players were selected for the conference’s scholar-athlete recognition, including five to the first team.
Lowery has 17 years of college coaching experience, which includes assistant coaching stints at Rend Lake College (1995-97), Missouri Southern (1997-2000), Southeast Missouri State (2000-01), Southern Illinois and Illinois. He has been a part of teams that have won more than 300 games and advanced to the postseason on eight occasions.
Lowery began his coaching career at Rend Lake College in Ina, Ill., in 1995, where he helped the Warriors to a 20-win season. He moved to Missouri Southern in 1997, where he worked three seasons for legendary coach Robert Corn, who has won nearly 400 games in 23 seasons. After winning 13 and 11 games in his first two seasons, the Lions posted a school-record 30 wins in 1999-2000, including 16 in conference play, and advanced to the NCAA Division II Elite Eight for the first time in school history. He moved to Southeast Missouri State as an assistant to Gary Garner in 2000-01, helping the RedHawks to an 18-12 record before moving to SIU.
Lowery returned to his alma mater as an assistant coach to Weber in 2002, helping the Salukis to a 52-15 (.776) record from 2001-03 with back-to-back Missouri Valley Conference championships and consecutive trips to the NCAA Tournament, including the Sweet 16 in 2003. He followed Weber to Illinois in 2003-04, where he helped the Fighting Illini to a 26-7 overall record, including a 13-3 mark in Big Ten play, and a trip to the Sweet 16. Illinois also captured its first outright Big Ten regular season title in more than 52 years.
After a one-year stint at Illinois, Lowery returned to his alma mater as the 12th men’s basketball coach at Southern Illinois on April 9, 2004. In his first year, SIU posted a 27-8 overall record, including a 15-3 mark in MVC play, and Lowery became the youngest coach, at the age 32, to ever win Missouri Valley Conference Coach of the Year honors. The Salukis won the MVC regular season crown and beat Saint Mary’s in the first round of the NCAA Tournament. Guard Darren Brooks was named an honorable mention All-American by the AP and was both the Missouri Valley Player and Defensive Player of the Year in 2005.
Lowery kept the momentum going in year two, taking a SIU team with no seniors to a 22-11 overall record, including a 12-6 mark in league play, en route to the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament title and another trip to the NCAA Tournament, where they lost West Virginia in the first round. The following season, he helped the Salukis to their greatest season in school history, as they won a school-record 29 games and advanced to the Sweet 16 in 2006-07. The squad finished the year with a No. 11 ranking in the ESPN/USA Today Coaches Poll ? the highest ever in school history ? and earned their highest NCAA Tournament seed (No. 4). SIU knocked off Holy Cross, 61-51, and Virginia Tech, 63-48, before losing to No. 2 Kansas, 61-58, in the Sweet 16. Known for its defensive prowess, the squad held 21 foes to under 60 points and finished third nationally in points allowed per game (56.2 ppg.).
Lowery again saw a player earn All-American distinction in 2007, as guard Jamaal Tatum was an honorable mention pick by the AP, in addition to being the Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year. Forward Randal Falker was also the league’s Defensive Player of the Year. Tatum and Falker were both first team all-league selections, while Tatum was the Prairie Farms Scholar-Athlete of the Year, which is the MVC’s top academic honor.
SIU earned its fifth consecutive trip to the postseason, including fourth in a row under Lowery, in 2007-08, as the squad won 18 games and advanced to the second round of the NIT. He finished his tenure with 145 wins, which are the fourth-most in school history behind William McAndrew (312, 1913-43), Rich Herren (225, 1985-98) and Lynn Holder (175, 1946-58). He is the third K-State coach to have served as a head coach at SIU, following all-time wins leader Jack Hartman, who posted a 142-64 (.689) record as the Salukis’ head coach from 1962-70, and Weber, who led SIU to a 103-54 mark from 1998-2003.
Lowery was a standout player for legendary Saluki coach Rich Herrin from 1990-94. Known as a scrappy, hustling player, he helped lead a basketball renaissance at SIU, guiding the Salukis to consecutive NCAA Tournaments in 1993 and 1994, including a breaking the school’s 16-year drought in 1993. He helped the school to an 86-37 (.699) mark during his tenure, including four postseason appearances and two Missouri Valley Conference titles. He scored 1,225 points and dished out 391 assists in his career. He earned a bachelor’s degree in physical education from the university in 1995.
Lowery has also some international coaching experience with USA Basketball, where as an assistant with the Under-19 team won the Gold medal at the 2009 World Championships in New Zealand.
A native of Evansville, Ind., Lowery, 39, was born on July 7, 1972 and attended Harrison High School. He and wife, Erika, have four children, Lexis, C.J., Kahari and Jazmyn.
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Jazmyn.
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well the good thing about this hire is unemployment just got lower!
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Chris210k just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Congratulations KSU on putting one of this century's top college basketball coaching tandems back together again! It's true that oscar Weber has struggled a bit in recent seasons, but his record with CLo as an assistant (at both SIU and UofI) is spectacular.
Anyone who is not on board with these hires seriously needs to research both these professionals just a little bit more. Chris will likely be gone to coach a top 25 program of his own within 5 seasons, but the Wildcats will be a national title contender every year until that time.
I'll be following your program closely and hope to make a few games myself during the years ahead. I also plan to contribute financially to KSU athletics as I'm done making donations to the SIU program after the senseless dismissal of Chris after this past season.
Enjoy the ride my friends. I have a strong feeling that this hire of former SIU coaches will work out even better than the last time KSU grabbed a Saluki to lead their basketball program.
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Congratulations KSU on putting one of this century's top college basketball coaching tandems back together again! It's true that oscar Weber has struggled a bit in recent seasons, but his record with CLo as an assistant (at both SIU and UofI) is spectacular.
Anyone who is not on board with these hires seriously needs to research both these professionals just a little bit more. Chris will likely be gone to coach a top 25 program of his own within 5 seasons, but the Wildcats will be a national title contender every year until that time.
I'll be following your program closely and hope to make a few games myself during the years ahead. I also plan to contribute financially to KSU athletics as I'm done making donations to the SIU program after the senseless dismissal of Chris after this past season.
Enjoy the ride my friends. I have a strong feeling that this hire of former SIU coaches will work out even better than the last time KSU grabbed a Saluki to lead their basketball program.
If anything, I will enjoy how weird oscar makes the fans. Also will love the chicken nuggets Cup pics.
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He and wife, Erika, have four children, Lexis, C.J., Kahari and Jazmyn.
they sound incredibly selfish and stupid.
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He and wife, Erika, have four children, Lexis, C.J., Kahari and Jazmyn.
they sound incredibly selfish and stupid.
I think the kid's names contradict what you just said. :love:
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oscar : Chris :: oscar : Alfred
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Congratulations KSU on putting one of this century's top college basketball coaching tandems back together again! It's true that oscar Weber has struggled a bit in recent seasons, but his record with CLo as an assistant (at both SIU and UofI) is spectacular.
Anyone who is not on board with these hires seriously needs to research both these professionals just a little bit more. Chris will likely be gone to coach a top 25 program of his own within 5 seasons, but the Wildcats will be a national title contender every year until that time.
I'll be following your program closely and hope to make a few games myself during the years ahead. I also plan to contribute financially to KSU athletics as I'm done making donations to the SIU program after the senseless dismissal of Chris after this past season.
Enjoy the ride my friends. I have a strong feeling that this hire of former SIU coaches will work out even better than the last time KSU grabbed a Saluki to lead their basketball program.
To all the real KSU fans; dean_ksu was dean_siu on our board until the Lowery firing. He's a Lowery sycophant and world class troll. :rolleyes: :jerk: Be advised and good luck. :thumbsup:
Oh, by the way, Travis Wilkins, one of CLo's recuits at SIU just got a release from his NLOI; need a juco two bomber?