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Title: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 04:08:15 PM: Name ONE coach who was fired* from a BCS school and then had a successful career at a different BCS school.

you can't

*fired for being shitty not being a drunk or something else off court
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: ednksu on March 31, 2012, 04:09:39 PM: I was just about to post this.

The only thing I can thing of as a possibility is if someone was fired and walked into another situation like Weber did at Illinois where he had a ready made team. But even than I can't think of it.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: kougar24 on March 31, 2012, 04:09:53 PM: ...Eddie Sutton? Did Kentucky fire him?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: AbeFroman on March 31, 2012, 04:11:10 PM: *fired for sucking, not fired for Huggins type causes
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 04:11:41 PM: Limit this to the past 20 years. You know modern college basketball.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 04:12:37 PM: Quote from: AbeFroman on March 31, 2012, 04:11:10 PM
*fired for sucking, not fired for Huggins type causes
good clarification (I added it)
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: ednksu on March 31, 2012, 04:14:57 PM: Huggins wasn't fired for basketball performance

What about Lon Kruger?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2012, 04:15:48 PM: Quote from: ednksu on March 31, 2012, 04:14:57 PM
Huggins wasn't fired for basketball performance

What about Lon Kruger?

Which bcs team?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2012, 04:16:39 PM: :depressed
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: ednksu on March 31, 2012, 04:17:11 PM: Quote from: wetwillie on March 31, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: ednksu on March 31, 2012, 04:14:57 PM
Huggins wasn't fired for basketball performance

What about Lon Kruger?

Which bcs team?
true, I was looking more D1 since the parity in basketball is so different than football.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:21:34 PM: Frank Haith was going to get fired at Miami...MU fans were just as irate as KSU'ers are meow...but that's because MU fans suck..
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: kougar24 on March 31, 2012, 04:22:12 PM: Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:12:37 PM
Quote from: AbeFroman on March 31, 2012, 04:11:10 PM
*fired for sucking, not fired for Huggins type causes
good clarification (I added it)

Cool. Carry on then.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 04:23:50 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Frank Haith was going to get fired at Miami...MU fans were just as irate as KSU'ers are meow...but that's because MU fans suck..
we wasn't fired though so nope
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 04:25:55 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Frank Haith was going to get fired at Miami

How do you figure? He was kept around because he built a pretty good roster at Miami that was expected to be decent this season.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:26:55 PM: Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Frank Haith was going to get fired at Miami...MU fans were just as irate as KSU'ers are meow...but that's because MU fans suck..
we wasn't fired though so nope

Extremely similar situation though. In fact Haith did a shattier job at UM than Weber did at Ill. But, MU is very homo so I'm done with that comparo
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: ChiComCat on March 31, 2012, 04:29:13 PM: Somehow make this fact into a chart so John Currie can make some rough ridin' sense of it
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 04:29:29 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Frank Haith was going to get fired at Miami...MU fans were just as irate as KSU'ers are meow...but that's because MU fans suck..
we wasn't fired though so nope

Extremely similar situation though. In fact Haith did a shattier job at UM than Weber did at Ill. But, MU is very homo so I'm done with that comparo
you don't know what you are talking about and should stop posting
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:30:50 PM: Because I'm proving you wrong.

Another, Tommy Amaker.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: kougar24 on March 31, 2012, 04:31:56 PM: When did the Ivy League join the BCS?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: ChiComCat on March 31, 2012, 04:32:12 PM: Haith had one good year, still had a first round exit, and has yet to recruit his own players. Even if you want to consider him "fired" from Miami, to say he is a success at Mizzou is at best, premature
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: FHSU92 on March 31, 2012, 04:33:04 PM: But, but, but....Look at these awesome stats:

Consensus National Coach of the Year
5 Conference Titles
Top 20 of Most Wins in the Nation Last 9 Seasons
Over 300 Career Wins
.669 Career Winning Percentage
33 Years of Coaching Experience

Crazy that UI fired him, we're so lucky :ksu:
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:33:27 PM: Another, Mark Gottfried
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 04:34:18 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:33:27 PM
Another, Mark Gottfried
you are a rough ridin' idiot who can't read
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:37:05 PM: Sorry for parting Ching :bball:
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Secret Panda Whispers on March 31, 2012, 04:39:01 PM: Someone do a list of fired BCS coaches in the last 25 years who still suck and will always suck, and weber and send it to currie to add to his excel chart workbook
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: naturalselection on March 31, 2012, 04:39:42 PM: Stan Heath might do it. But was 43 when fired from Arky and took over a tough situation there. Plus, it's taken some time to rebuild a really shitty USF program. God what I wouldn't do to have Stan Heath right now. I promise you he wouldn't have gotten up today and sounded like complete moron.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 04:41:14 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:37:05 PM
Sorry for parting Ching :bball:

is "parting" a synonym for moron?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:42:08 PM: Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:37:05 PM
Sorry for parting Ching :bball:

is "parting" a synonym for moron?

Yes, totally is dude

Tubby Smith
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 31, 2012, 04:42:35 PM: How many fired BCS coaches went to another BCS program immediately? Does that ever happen?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:44:37 PM: Steve Lavin
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 04:45:07 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:37:05 PM
Sorry for parting Ching :bball:

is "parting" a synonym for moron?

Yes, totally is dude

Tubby Smith
not successful
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 04:45:18 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Steve Lavin
not successful
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: 114Hickory on March 31, 2012, 04:46:35 PM: Quote from: ChiCat on March 31, 2012, 04:29:13 PM
Somehow make this fact into a chart so John Currie can make some rough ridin' sense of it

Mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 04:47:17 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:37:05 PM
Sorry for parting Ching :bball:

is "parting" a synonym for moron?

Yes, totally is dude

Tubby Smith

What part about having success at the next school aren't you understanding? First of all Tubby quit UK, secondly in his five years at Minnesota he has never finished above 6th in the Big 10 and has yet to win a NCAA tournament game. Is that your idea of success?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:48:52 PM: Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Steve Lavin
not successful

Took St John's to the 2nd round (real second round) in his first year as coach. Cancer is a bitch, this season doesn't count
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: ChiComCat on March 31, 2012, 04:50:33 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Steve Lavin
not successful

Took St John's to the 2nd round (real second round) in his first year as coach. Cancer is a bitch, this season doesn't count

If half your tenure at a new school is a "do-over", then it is still to be determined.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 04:51:39 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Steve Lavin
not successful

Took St John's to the 2nd round (real second round) in his first year as coach. Cancer is a bitch, this season doesn't count

So you'd be happy with a 5th place conference finish and the round of 32 as a ceiling for Weber?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:58:08 PM: Quote from: ChiCat on March 31, 2012, 04:50:33 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Steve Lavin
not successful

Took St John's to the 2nd round (real second round) in his first year as coach. Cancer is a bitch, this season doesn't count

If half your tenure at a new school is a "do-over", then it is still to be determined.

5th place in the Big East out of 16 teams, one of which was the National champion, the others Cuse(#12 in nation), ND (#5 in nation), Pitt (#4 in nation), Louisville (#14)
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 05:00:15 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:58:08 PM
Quote from: ChiCat on March 31, 2012, 04:50:33 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Steve Lavin
not successful

Took St John's to the 2nd round (real second round) in his first year as coach. Cancer is a bitch, this season doesn't count

If half your tenure at a new school is a "do-over", then it is still to be determined.

5th place in the Big East out of 16 teams, one of which was the National champion, the others Cuse(#12 in nation), ND (#5 in nation), Pitt (#4 in nation), Louisville (#14)

answer my question, I've asked two different ways and you've avoided both. Is what Lavin accomplished at StJ or Tubby at Minnesota what you want for KSU?
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 05:06:03 PM: I would take Steve Lavin, his top ranked recruiting classes, and what he's doing and going to do for SJU for KSU in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: CHONGS on March 31, 2012, 05:07:11 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 05:06:03 PM
I would take Steve Lavin, his top ranked recruiting classes, and what he's doing and going to do for SJU for KSU in a heartbeat.
No we will have oscar Weber and his shitty recruiting classes and almost making the NIT.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2012, 05:07:30 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 05:06:03 PM
I would take Steve Lavin, his top ranked recruiting classes, and what he's doing and going to do for SJU for KSU in a heartbeat.

That isn't what I asked. You are a bad troll.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 05:10:45 PM: Go Royals :sdeek:
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: Pete on March 31, 2012, 05:12:04 PM: Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Chingon on March 31, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Doberman_CATS!!! on March 31, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Steve Lavin
not successful

Took St John's to the 2nd round (real second round) in his first year as coach. Cancer is a bitch, this season doesn't count

Well, let's hope that Weber can land a #2 National recruiting class like Lavin at St. Johns.
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: turns_cats_trashy on March 31, 2012, 05:25:55 PM: My magic 8 ball says Eustacy will be the first
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: ednksu on March 31, 2012, 05:31:11 PM: Quote from: turns_cats_trashy on March 31, 2012, 05:25:55 PM
My magic 8 ball says Eustacy will be the first
NOT FIRED BECAUSE OF BASKETBALL PERFORMANCE
Title: Re: Sad fact:
Post by: turns_cats_trashy on March 31, 2012, 05:48:38 PM: Quote from: ednksu on March 31, 2012, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: turns_cats_trashy on March 31, 2012, 05:25:55 PM
My magic 8 ball says Eustacy will be the first
NOT FIRED BECAUSE OF BASKETBALL PERFORMANCE
Franking piece of derp magic 8 ball :shakesfist: