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Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: puniraptor on March 28, 2012, 03:39:59 PM
Currie is going to run Snyder off by the 4th quarter of the spring game. Who can we get as head coach?

Obviously won't be Sean with these bridges burning all around him.

Gary Patterson? Maybe he will get on the wrong purple busss and end up coaching us instead?

Jim Tressel? I really love his style!
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: puniraptor on March 28, 2012, 04:18:48 PM
 :flush:       :flush:       :flush:       :flush:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: puniraptor on March 28, 2012, 04:19:06 PM
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Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: puniraptor on March 28, 2012, 04:19:26 PM
 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 28, 2012, 04:21:58 PM
what is your avatar picture of?  is that some kind of fowl?  i hope it is.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: puniraptor on March 28, 2012, 04:28:49 PM
http://youtu.be/fj48ewrkSFQ (http://youtu.be/fj48ewrkSFQ)
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Katpappy on March 28, 2012, 08:25:30 PM
http://youtu.be/fj48ewrkSFQ (http://youtu.be/fj48ewrkSFQ)
Is this your pet?  Also I'm saving that picture of the stormy stadium on my wallpaper. Thx.  :cheers:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: jaa1025 on March 31, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
We need Synder to outlast Currie BIG TIME. IN NO WAY DO I TRUST CURRIE TO HIRE A REPLACEMENT.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 31, 2012, 11:55:54 AM
"We won't settle for scraps" - John Currie, two days before hiring Turner Gill
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 31, 2012, 12:54:00 PM
We need Synder to outlast Currie BIG TIME. IN NO WAY DO I TRUST CURRIE TO HIRE A REPLACEMENT.
This is so true. I will pray every night that Bill has 10 more years on him!  :pray:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 31, 2012, 04:05:47 PM
this thread is too early.  we need a list of recently fired candidates the year snyder steps down to really make an educated guess.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: wazucat on March 31, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
this thread is too early.  we need a list of recently fired candidates the year snyder steps down to really make an educated guess.

Very good, wish I were in a better frame of mind would have LOL.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: kstatefreak42 on March 31, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
i bet its somebody already on our staff
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Shacks on March 31, 2012, 11:41:58 PM
Tyrone Willingham.  Since K-State and KU roundball will both have ex-Illinois coaches, lets go with symmetry and hire a guy who was run out of Notre Dame just like the Jayhawks did (assuming Weis doesn't die before Snyder).  Also, Mark May won't call us :opcat: again if we hire a black coach.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: EMAWesome on March 31, 2012, 11:51:41 PM
The answer is obvious.

We failed in getting Gottlieb.

We must have Herbie

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Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: p1k3 on April 01, 2012, 12:26:35 AM
We cant let Currie or Animal near our football program. They will bury Cats athletics for good.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: ELL3 on April 01, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
this thread is too early.  we need a list of recently fired candidates the year snyder steps down to really make an educated guess.

Terry Allen has go to merit strong consideration, not only failed at the Big 12 level, but is failing miserably at 1-AA Missouri State. Seems like a no brainer, could recruit the heck out of the 120 eight man teams in Kansas and keep those scholarships in state to white, Kansas kids.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: doom on April 01, 2012, 01:09:17 PM
When Al Golden gets fired at Miami, should be perfect. 
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: the KHAN! on April 01, 2012, 01:40:09 PM
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He fits our profile. I say we bribe him away.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: JKEYS on April 04, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
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He fits our profile. I say we bribe him away.

 :lol:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 04, 2012, 03:09:58 PM
Wait, I thought I was on the "edgy" board that hates OBz?

Plus, how could anyone Currie might hire to replace Snyder possibly be a bigger joke than Ron Prince?

::cognitive dissonance::   :sdeek:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: puniraptor on April 04, 2012, 03:14:59 PM
Prince only turned out to be a giant joke. Before he was an absolute failure, he was an exciting unknown!
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 04, 2012, 03:25:24 PM
Prince only turned out to be a giant joke. Before he was an absolute failure, he was an exciting unknown!

Oh, I melted the eff down the second Prince was announced.  Like, after Snyder built our program, how could we hire a nobody; pointing out Prince was actually a much worse candidate than Snyder was, and we were able to bring in Snyder when our program was a clusterfuck.  That sort of stuff.  (I'd rather not remember those times...)
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2012, 03:39:36 PM
Wait, I thought I was on the "edgy" board that hates OBz?

Plus, how could anyone Currie might hire to replace Snyder possibly be a bigger joke than Ron Prince?

::cognitive dissonance::   :sdeek:

I think Currie would take a long, hard look at Mike Sherman. Then he will interview 2 assistants nobody has heard of and decide to hire Sherman and hold his press conference on Super Bowl Sunday at 2:00.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2012, 04:07:27 PM
Even with the benefit of hindsight I have absolutely zero issues with the hiring of Ron Prince, and I'm glad we gave it a shot.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 04, 2012, 04:14:42 PM
prince would have been more successful had he kept his assistants.  but he didn't, so he failed.

still was a better hire than getting a coach who was recently fired from wake forest or something.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2012, 04:15:19 PM
Even with the benefit of hindsight I have absolutely zero issues with the hiring of Ron Prince, and I'm glad we gave it a shot.

My biggest issue was that we could have hired an assistant coach with a bigger name, like Venables. I liked the high risk aspect of it, though, and Prince actually worked out better than I thought he would.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2012, 04:21:09 PM
Even with the benefit of hindsight I have absolutely zero issues with the hiring of Ron Prince, and I'm glad we gave it a shot.

My biggest issue was that we could have hired an assistant coach with a bigger name, like Venables. I liked the high risk aspect of it, though, and Prince actually worked out better than I thought he would.

I agree that a higher-profile assistant would have been nice, but I hope we do more high-risk/high-reward hires in the future. I mean it's not like he ruined the program, and he was about as wacky as they come.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 04, 2012, 11:06:35 PM
Even with the benefit of hindsight I have absolutely zero issues with the hiring of Ron Prince, and I'm glad we gave it a shot.

Ditto.  Now, the extension left a bit to be desired.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 05, 2012, 07:33:41 AM
I think Bill has 3 years left in him. About that time Illinois will be firing Tim Beck, so I will go with Tim Beck.
Title: Re: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2012, 08:30:51 AM
Even with the benefit of hindsight I have absolutely zero issues with the hiring of Ron Prince, and I'm glad we gave it a shot.

Ditto.  Now, the extension left a bit to be desired.

yes, a bit.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: puniraptor on April 05, 2012, 08:33:05 AM
I was thinking earlier how awesome it would have been if Prince was actually a good coach when I realized he would probably make an AMAZING ATHLETIC DIRECTOR. #RONPRINCE4KSUAD

That dude could market.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2012, 11:09:25 AM
I was thinking earlier how awesome it would have been if Prince was actually a good coach when I realized he would probably make an AMAZING ATHLETIC DIRECTOR. #RONPRINCE4KSUAD

That dude could market.

omg yes
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Shacks on April 05, 2012, 03:10:48 PM
I was thinking earlier how awesome it would have been if Prince was actually a good coach when I realized he would probably make an AMAZING ATHLETIC DIRECTOR. #RONPRINCE4KSUAD

That dude could market.

omg yes

Power Towel video needs a sequel
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 05, 2012, 05:25:55 PM
Greg Williams.
Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: LickNeckey on October 23, 2012, 08:33:44 PM
Gus Malzahn

could be the perfect hire
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 23, 2012, 08:34:38 PM
Gus Malzahn

could be the perfect hire

:thumbs:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: wetwillie on October 23, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
Gus Malzahn

could be the perfect hire

attention dumbasses, gus would not even give us the courtesy of a reach around
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 23, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
:Tuckinginmyshirt:  Mods, please move this thread to :fanningstuff: until we win the National Championship. I don't need Snyder losing focus on the prize. Tia.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: dlineguy57 on October 23, 2012, 08:51:21 PM
major applewhite- but we make Dana the Hc for texas week to avoid a conflict of interest
Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: LickNeckey on October 23, 2012, 08:58:18 PM
Gus Malzahn

could be the perfect hire

attention dumbasses, gus would not even give us the courtesy of a reach around

agree to disagree

gus+#life=amazing
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: PoetWarrior on October 23, 2012, 08:58:56 PM
Greg Williams.

http://youtu.be/obvkOgKqe90?hd=1
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 23, 2012, 09:07:08 PM
Gus Malzahn

could be the perfect hire

attention dumbasses, gus would not even give us the courtesy of a reach around

agree to disagree

gus+#life=amazing

Yes. #life > Cam. Therefore, Gus will do much great things than win an NC with Hesiman winner #life.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 23, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
Bill can coach from the grave for all I care. Seriously, he is even better this time around and has earned the right to do whatever the eff he wants.

While still a control freak, he has finally let his assistants do their jobs (call plays). He still gets to oversee every detail before/after games, but I'm glad he is letting go a little bit.

I mean, is he not the most ridiculously calm Snyder we have ever seen on the sidelines this year? Sometimes I almost wonder if he has just lost it and gone JoePa on us. Then, I see him coaching up Klein, Harper, Thompson, and Lockett on the sidelines. You can tell he knows all the real work has been done before the game and now he can sit back and reap the benefits.

Man, I hope we go to the NC game this year. He has certainly earned it.

Question: Do the players give him a gatorade shower if we win the BIG XII? If we in the NC?
Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: LickNeckey on October 23, 2012, 11:03:00 PM
This thread really isn't about how much of a boss Bill is.

It's about how Gus Malzahn would be the optimal replacement whenever that time comes. 

Hopefully Arkansas is turned off by the crazy wife.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 23, 2012, 11:12:54 PM
This thread really isn't about how much of a boss Bill is.

It's about how Gus Malzahn would be the optimal replacement whenever that time comes. 

Hopefully Arkansas is turned off by the crazy wife.

There is no optimal replacement unless his last name is Saban, Spurrier, or Miles.

Side note: Anybody who is glad we gave Prince a 'shot' is flat out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Seriously, Apple didn't find their next CEO by scouting burger flippers at the local Wendys. Prince was a piece of crap. Why everyone loved his staff is beyond me. They didn't do crap either.

I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward hire, but you've got to look at the man's record for substance prior to falling in love with his rhetoric.
Title: Re: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 23, 2012, 11:18:44 PM
This thread really isn't about how much of a boss Bill is.

It's about how Gus Malzahn would be the optimal replacement whenever that time comes. 

Hopefully Arkansas is turned off by the crazy wife.

There is no optimal replacement unless his last name is Saban, Spurrier, or Miles.

Side note: Anybody who is glad we gave Prince a 'shot' is flat out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Seriously, Apple didn't find their next CEO by scouting burger flippers at the local Wendys. Prince was a piece of crap. Why everyone loved his staff is beyond me. They didn't do crap either.

I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward hire, but you've got to look at the man's record for substance prior to falling in love with his rhetoric.

His color had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Also, Ron says you're welcome for recruiting Klein.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: OK_Cat on October 23, 2012, 11:25:23 PM
This thread really isn't about how much of a boss Bill is.

It's about how Gus Malzahn would be the optimal replacement whenever that time comes. 

Hopefully Arkansas is turned off by the crazy wife.

There is no optimal replacement unless his last name is Saban, Spurrier, or Miles.

Side note: Anybody who is glad we gave Prince a 'shot' is flat out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Seriously, Apple didn't find their next CEO by scouting burger flippers at the local Wendys. Prince was a piece of crap. Why everyone loved his staff is beyond me. They didn't do crap either.

I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward hire, but you've got to look at the man's record for substance prior to falling in love with his rhetoric.

i rough ridin' hate that a huge chunk of our fanbase are rough ridin' retards and racist douchebags like you.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: DQ12 on October 23, 2012, 11:44:06 PM
Guys, if you're not rooting for Dimel to get the job, then I pretty much fundamentally disagree with how you perceive the source of K-State football's success.
Title: Re: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 23, 2012, 11:52:21 PM
This thread really isn't about how much of a boss Bill is.

It's about how Gus Malzahn would be the optimal replacement whenever that time comes. 

Hopefully Arkansas is turned off by the crazy wife.

There is no optimal replacement unless his last name is Saban, Spurrier, or Miles.

Side note: Anybody who is glad we gave Prince a 'shot' is flat out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Seriously, Apple didn't find their next CEO by scouting burger flippers at the local Wendys. Prince was a piece of crap. Why everyone loved his staff is beyond me. They didn't do crap either.

I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward hire, but you've got to look at the man's record for substance prior to falling in love with his rhetoric.

His color had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Also, Ron says you're welcome for recruiting Klein.


Zing! I prefer to say thanks to Snyder for grooming him into the QB he is today.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: p1k3 on October 23, 2012, 11:54:34 PM
Guys, if you're not rooting for Dimel to get the job, then I pretty much fundamentally disagree with how you perceive the source of K-State football's success.

I'd rather go with Dimel than "take a risk" again with some unproven loser like Prince.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 24, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
This thread really isn't about how much of a boss Bill is.

It's about how Gus Malzahn would be the optimal replacement whenever that time comes. 

Hopefully Arkansas is turned off by the crazy wife.

There is no optimal replacement unless his last name is Saban, Spurrier, or Miles.

Side note: Anybody who is glad we gave Prince a 'shot' is flat out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). Seriously, Apple didn't find their next CEO by scouting burger flippers at the local Wendys. Prince was a piece of crap. Why everyone loved his staff is beyond me. They didn't do crap either.

I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward hire, but you've got to look at the man's record for substance prior to falling in love with his rhetoric.

i rough ridin' hate that a huge chunk of our fanbase are rough ridin' retards and racist douchebags like you.

Please pull your head out of your ass. If you think Prince was hired because of his vast experience and grear Xs and Os mind, you are beyond help.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Snydercat34 on October 24, 2012, 12:02:24 AM
If Currie were smart he'd listen to Snyder's suggestions regarding the latter's replacement but I'm not convinced that will be genuinely undertaken.  Currie truly has an ego and wants to put his own stamp on at K-State.  However, regarding coach Snyder's say in the matter, I'd like to believe that he wants somebody who has (a.) coached under him in Manhattan and (b.) was successful as a head coach thereafter.  Who comes quickly and legitimately to mind are Jim Leavitt and Mark Mangino.  I think Jim Leavitt is the perfect fit.  He meets both a. and b. AND let's not forget:  he's familiar with Del Miller, Michael Smith, Dana Dimel, Sean, and of course, Joe Gordon (if he comes back in the near future), all of whom he has worked with already in some capacity when he was here during the early years of Snyder 1.0.  Leavitt also worked side-by-side with Bob Stoops for about 6 years as a fellow defensive coordinator; Leavitt, like Snyder, would therefore know how to beat Stoops.  If Jim doesn't come and Currie ignores Snyder's suggestions, then there's one name out there currently, with no ties to K-State or coach Snyder, that I'm really high on.  He's young, has been successful everywhere he's been  and has to be licking his chops at his first major job:  Mark Hudspeth.  He worked under Dan Mullen at Mississippi State and has done a fine job thus far at Louisiana Lafayette.  Call me crazy but my gut tells me this guy is going to be big time.  Take it for what it's worth!  Go 'Cats.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: DQ12 on October 24, 2012, 12:10:21 AM
Please pull your head out of your ass. If you think Prince was hired because of his vast experience and grear Xs and Os mind, you are beyond help.
How exactly did Prince being black didn't make him "high-risk high-reward"?
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: mancattanite on October 24, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Tom Hayes?

Or am I just crazy.

Probably crazy.  :flush:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 24, 2012, 12:29:44 AM
If it isn't Dimel, but it is.

I would assume Mike Stoops would be close to the top of the list.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 24, 2012, 12:38:10 AM
Please pull your head out of your ass. If you think Prince was hired because of his vast experience and grear Xs and Os mind, you are beyond help.
How exactly did Prince being black didn't make him "high-risk high-reward"?

Huh?
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 24, 2012, 12:46:59 AM
Tom Hayes?

Or am I just crazy.

Probably crazy.  :flush:

heard a passing conversation between 2 players today that went like this:

"yeah, coach hayes is rough ridin' cool, i like that guy"
"coach cox is an bad person, eff him"
"yeah, but coach hayes is like hey DB's...."

couldn't hear anymore after that :(
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: DQ12 on October 24, 2012, 12:50:36 AM
Please pull your head out of your ass. If you think Prince was hired because of his vast experience and grear Xs and Os mind, you are beyond help.
How exactly did Prince being black didn't make him "high-risk high-reward"?

Huh?
I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward...
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 24, 2012, 01:16:06 AM
Please pull your head out of your ass. If you think Prince was hired because of his vast experience and grear Xs and Os mind, you are beyond help.
How exactly did Prince being black didn't make him "high-risk high-reward"?

Huh?
I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward...

He became only the fifth black head coach at the time in D1, he was the third youngest head ciach in the country, and he had a whopping 5 below average years as a coordinator prior to making the jump.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: mancattanite on October 24, 2012, 01:43:15 AM
Tom Hayes?

Or am I just crazy.

Probably crazy.  :flush:

heard a passing conversation between 2 players today that went like this:

"yeah, coach hayes is rough ridin' cool, i like that guy"
"coach cox is an bad person, eff him"
"yeah, but coach hayes is like hey DB's...."

couldn't hear anymore after that :(

He's definitely old enough to be our coach.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: DQ12 on October 24, 2012, 01:59:13 AM
Please pull your head out of your ass. If you think Prince was hired because of his vast experience and grear Xs and Os mind, you are beyond help.
How exactly did Prince being black didn't make him "high-risk high-reward"?

Huh?
I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward...

He became only the fifth black head coach at the time in D1, he was the third youngest head ciach in the country, and he had a whopping 5 below average years as a coordinator prior to making the jump.
Inexperienced?  Sure.  Very risky hire due to his inexperience.

But i fail to see how him being black makes him any riskier than any inexperienced white guy. 
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 24, 2012, 03:52:43 AM
Please pull your head out of your ass. If you think Prince was hired because of his vast experience and grear Xs and Os mind, you are beyond help.
How exactly did Prince being black didn't make him "high-risk high-reward"?

Huh?
I see where some think hiring the young black coach is 'edgy' and a potential high risk/reward...

He became only the fifth black head coach at the time in D1, he was the third youngest head ciach in the country, and he had a whopping 5 below average years as a coordinator prior to making the jump.
Inexperienced?  Sure.  Very risky hire due to his inexperience.

But i fail to see how him being black makes him any riskier than any inexperienced white guy.

Well if you really want to go here.....guess how many black coaches have ever won a bcs bowl? That is a big fat zero.

Fact is, a black coach has only even made a bcs bowl twice.

As far as determining success when related to the post season and conventional 'winning,' hiring a young black coach is a risky venture.

Start 'You're racist!' comments now.........
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 24, 2012, 04:28:04 AM
Your entire argument is "black coaches aren't successful because of their race," of course it's racist. You're a rough ridin' moron.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 24, 2012, 06:50:44 AM
Your entire argument is "black coaches aren't successful because of their race," of course it's racist. You're a rough ridin' moron.

That us not my argument, jackass. Black coaches have not performed well enough to advance and win at an elite level is an undisputed fact at this point. You can attribute this this to various factors, but it does not change thd win/loss column.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 24, 2012, 07:00:29 AM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2012, 07:04:42 AM
shyvyman, hit the road
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2012, 07:05:32 AM
If Currie were smart he'd listen to Snyder's suggestions regarding the latter's replacement but I'm not convinced that will be genuinely undertaken.  Currie truly has an ego and wants to put his own stamp on at K-State.  However, regarding coach Snyder's say in the matter, I'd like to believe that he wants somebody who has (a.) coached under him in Manhattan and (b.) was successful as a head coach thereafter.  Who comes quickly and legitimately to mind are Jim Leavitt and Mark Mangino.  I think Jim Leavitt is the perfect fit.  He meets both a. and b. AND let's not forget:  he's familiar with Del Miller, Michael Smith, Dana Dimel, Sean, and of course, Joe Gordon (if he comes back in the near future), all of whom he has worked with already in some capacity when he was here during the early years of Snyder 1.0.  Leavitt also worked side-by-side with Bob Stoops for about 6 years as a fellow defensive coordinator; Leavitt, like Snyder, would therefore know how to beat Stoops. 

LHC Bill Snyder wants Sean to be the next HC. He has no list of qualifications and will not suggest anyone else. It sucks, because Dimel is the best option, MUCH better than Leavitt. Ultimately it probably doesn't matter because Currie doesn't care what Bill wants (which I don't see as a bad thing)
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: CHONGS on October 24, 2012, 07:34:10 AM
Hey guys we were wrong out Bill so we really shouldn't act like coach evaluating savants around here.  Let's pull this discussion back a bit ok?
Title: Re: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: CNS on October 24, 2012, 07:54:19 AM
Hey guys we were wrong out Bill so we really shouldn't act like coach evaluating savants around here.  Let's pull this discussion back a bit ok?

Whatever LHFCBS wants is what I want. Sounds like these chumps think they know more about football than LHFCBS.  Pfft.

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Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2012, 07:56:24 AM
Hey guys we were wrong out Bill so we really shouldn't act like coach evaluating savants around here.  Let's pull this discussion back a bit ok?

nobody bats 1.000 chingon. not LHC Bill Snyder, not goEMAW. doesn't mean we can't have our say.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 24, 2012, 08:00:04 AM
If Currie were smart blah blah DNR

He's Not.  When it comes to coaching hires, he is the inverse of smart.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 24, 2012, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: shivvyman
I'm not racist, but
A black coach will never win
A BCS bowl
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: CHONGS on October 24, 2012, 08:04:47 AM
Hey guys we were wrong out Bill so we really shouldn't act like coach evaluating savants around here.  Let's pull this discussion back a bit ok?

nobody bats 1.000 chingon. not LHC Bill Snyder, not goEMAW. doesn't mean we can't have our say.
it's your funeral!
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: qatzmanchu on October 24, 2012, 08:07:36 AM
KState is a place where you got to go all in on a pair of threes and hope for the best. That is why I absolutely hate the squeaky hire over Gottlieb. Hate it, Hate it, Hate it.

Rather ride a rocket ship that has equal chance to take you to the stratosphere or expolde on ignition, then get in a hot air ballon and drift fro awhile.

I vote for Coach Dolorean over anyone else. Take the chance on a young, currently successful guy with ties to the area. Everyone else is just a retread who wasnt successful at another place.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: RickRampus on October 24, 2012, 08:09:57 AM
I don't care if the [redacted] is orange as long as he can coach. 
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2012, 08:11:50 AM
took me awhile to realize you meant doeren  :lol:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: RickRampus on October 24, 2012, 08:12:58 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 24, 2012, 08:18:10 AM
Great post qatz.

People seem to still think it takes years (like more than five) to rebuild a program, and it doesn't. The Ron Prince experience really didn't hurt us all that much, and I say we go for something similar again.

We won't, but it would be great.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: LickNeckey on October 24, 2012, 08:27:25 AM
Can we get back to what a great hire Malzahn would be?

Imagine Dimel as his O.C. with Dickey retained to run the line.

 :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Trim on October 24, 2012, 08:28:52 AM
Could somebody make a comprehensive list of minority groups and whether a respective member head coach has ever won a BCS bowl?  It'd be good to have some predetermined parameters here before we go too far down this coaching search road.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: qatzmanchu on October 24, 2012, 08:35:11 AM
I could be pro malzahn, so long as divorces and or muzzles his wife in the mean time. I could be pro anyone who was successful somewhere, anywhere.

I am also squarely in the camp of who ever is hired should be hired with the stipulation that Dickey stays.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2012, 08:37:39 AM
Could somebody make a comprehensive list of minority groups and whether a respective member head coach has ever won a BCS bowl?  It'd be good to have some predetermined parameters here before we go too far down this coaching search road.

australian aborigines are out, just off the top of my head
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: 'taterblast on October 24, 2012, 08:39:14 AM
Dimel, you dorks
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 24, 2012, 08:39:57 AM
Could somebody make a comprehensive list of minority groups and whether a respective member head coach has ever won a BCS bowl?  It'd be good to have some predetermined parameters here before we go too far down this coaching search road.

I don't think any Indians have ever pulled it off.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: qatzmanchu on October 24, 2012, 08:41:34 AM
Could somebody make a comprehensive list of minority groups and whether a respective member head coach has ever won a BCS bowl?  It'd be good to have some predetermined parameters here before we go too far down this coaching search road.

I don't think any Indians have ever pulled it off.

Both dot and feather indians.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Ira Hayes on October 24, 2012, 08:42:20 AM
We are going to win a national championship and then we are going to get Sean Snyder.

And we are going to like it.

 :bill:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2012, 08:43:18 AM
actually, I'm sure that Caste Football site already has all the info compiled for us guys.
Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: felix rex on October 24, 2012, 09:00:32 AM
I am team dimel and team michcat haikus.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 24, 2012, 09:34:31 AM
Dimel and Malzahn are the only tier 1 hires. Would be ecstatic with either.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: CatsNShocks on October 24, 2012, 09:35:24 AM
We are going to win a national championship and then we are going to get Sean Snyder.

And we are going to like it.

 :bill:

Would take
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Mr Bread on October 24, 2012, 09:35:45 AM
Dimel and Malzahn are the only tier 1 hires. Would be ecstatic with either.

Malzahn's wife is evidently a lunatic, so that could be fun too. 
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 24, 2012, 09:56:53 AM
We are going to win a national championship and then we are going to get Sean Snyder.

And we are going to like it.

 :bill:

If winning a NC means suffering under Sean Snyder for 5 years, I'll take it.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: OK_Cat on October 24, 2012, 09:58:22 AM
We are going to win a national championship and then we are going to get Sean Snyder.

And we are going to like it.

 :bill:

If winning a NC means suffering under Sean Snyder for 5 years, I'll take it.

so you're saying that the risk/reward is cool with Sean Snyder?

Hmmmm.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2012, 09:58:52 AM
Dimel and Malzahn are the only tier 1 hires. Would be ecstatic with either.

Dimel isn't staying on if we hire Malzahn. I'd also rather have Dimel than Malzahn.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Pittcat on October 24, 2012, 10:00:46 AM
Dimel and Malzahn are the only tier 1 hires. Would be ecstatic with either.

Malzahn's wife is evidently a lunatic, so that could be fun too.

You really are turning purple, aren't you?  The EMAW is warm, isn't it?
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: shivvyman on October 24, 2012, 01:31:09 PM
We are going to win a national championship and then we are going to get Sean Snyder.

And we are going to like it.

 :bill:

If winning a NC means suffering under Sean Snyder for 5 years, I'll take it.

so you're saying that the risk/reward is cool with Sean Snyder?

Hmmmm.

Obviously. If that albino pigment doesn't ooze success, I don't know what does.

Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Snydercat34 on October 24, 2012, 02:43:35 PM
Steve Dave, I've appreciated your insight on many matters pertaining to K-State football over the years but I must disagree with you
regarding your stance that Dimel is a far better choice than Leavitt.  Don't get me wrong, I think Dimel is a quality coach but look at the success that Leavitt had as a head coach at South Florida coupled with his coordinator duties for us in the 90s and currently with the 49ers.  Dimel simply couldn't get things going during his time at Houston.  I think Dimel would better serve as Leavitt's offensive coordinator.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 24, 2012, 02:47:25 PM
leavitt couldn't get things done at South Florida. He got fired, too. Just like Dimel.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Snydercat34 on October 24, 2012, 09:05:46 PM
No, it wasn't just like Dimel!  Dimel only managed eight wins in three seasons at Houston.  Leavitt, who was 95-57 at South Florida, lost his job because of allegations that he had struck one of his players.  Leavitt won eight games the first season South Florida was promoted to a D-1 status.  He built South Florida out of literally nothing, for he was the program's first head coach.  By his 9th/10th season, I forget which, he had South Florida ranked in the top ten in the country at one point.  If I'm not mistaken he had South Florida ranked number 2 in the BCS, just behind Ohio State.  If you check the facts Dimel can't hold a candle to Leavitt.  Go 'Cats!
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: sys on October 24, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: shivvyman
I'm not racist, but
A black coach will never win
A BCS bowl

 :lol:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Katpappy on October 24, 2012, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: shivvyman
I'm not racist, but
A black coach will never win
A BCS bowl

 :lol:
Don't think australian aborigines, indians or jews for christ will ever win either.  :D
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Katpappy on October 24, 2012, 11:48:31 PM
Quote from: shivvyman
I'm not racist, but
A black coach will never win
A BCS bowl

 :lol:
Don't think australian aborigines, indians or jews for christ will ever win either.  :D
And I would like to add Texas Tech's mascot.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: mortons toe on October 25, 2012, 12:38:15 AM
No, it wasn't just like Dimel!  Dimel only managed eight wins in three seasons at Houston.  Leavitt, who was 95-57 at South Florida, lost his job because of allegations that he had struck one of his players.  Leavitt won eight games the first season South Florida was promoted to a D-1 status.  He built South Florida out of literally nothing, for he was the program's first head coach.  By his 9th/10th season, I forget which, he had South Florida ranked in the top ten in the country at one point.  If I'm not mistaken he had South Florida ranked number 2 in the BCS, just behind Ohio State.  If you check the facts Dimel can't hold a candle to Leavitt.  Go 'Cats!

Michcat is delusional... just look at his posts when Bill came back, along with his views on RP. I worked very close to the program during RP's time and can tell you for a fact that the ship was sinking. Two more years would have had critical support staff and players heading for the exits.
 
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 25, 2012, 01:53:14 AM
coaches are only fired for hitting kids when the performance is unsatisfactory.

although I'm sure leavitt's experience starting a program from scratch will come in handy after our national title game appearance.
Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: felix rex on October 25, 2012, 05:27:42 AM
No, it wasn't just like Dimel!  Dimel only managed eight wins in three seasons at Houston.  Leavitt, who was 95-57 at South Florida, lost his job because of allegations that he had struck one of his players.  Leavitt won eight games the first season South Florida was promoted to a D-1 status.  He built South Florida out of literally nothing, for he was the program's first head coach.  By his 9th/10th season, I forget which, he had South Florida ranked in the top ten in the country at one point.  If I'm not mistaken he had South Florida ranked number 2 in the BCS, just behind Ohio State.  If you check the facts Dimel can't hold a candle to Leavitt.  Go 'Cats!

Michcat is delusional... just look at his posts when Bill came back, along with his views on RP. I worked very close to the program during RP's time and can tell you for a fact that the ship was sinking. Two more years would have had critical support staff and players heading for the exits.
 

Please start master thread with insidery stories about Ron et al
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Panjandrum on October 25, 2012, 10:55:55 AM
coaches are only fired for hitting kids when the performance is unsatisfactory.

although I'm sure leavitt's experience starting a program from scratch will come in handy after our national title game appearance.

Yeah, we don't need someone to build.  We need someone to steward.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Institutional Control on October 25, 2012, 11:01:17 AM
I'm still on the Bobby Petrino bandwagon. I'll even chip in on a new motorcycle.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 25, 2012, 11:04:43 AM
No, it wasn't just like Dimel!  Dimel only managed eight wins in three seasons at Houston.  Leavitt, who was 95-57 at South Florida, lost his job because of allegations that he had struck one of his players.  Leavitt won eight games the first season South Florida was promoted to a D-1 status.  He built South Florida out of literally nothing, for he was the program's first head coach.  By his 9th/10th season, I forget which, he had South Florida ranked in the top ten in the country at one point.  If I'm not mistaken he had South Florida ranked number 2 in the BCS, just behind Ohio State.  If you check the facts Dimel can't hold a candle to Leavitt.  Go 'Cats!

Michcat is delusional... just look at his posts when Bill came back, along with his views on RP. I worked very close to the program during RP's time and can tell you for a fact that the ship was sinking. Two more years would have had critical support staff and players heading for the exits.
 

Please start master thread with insidery stories about Ron et al

x2

Also please start a post digging up my posts about ron and Bill. *swoon* :shy:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 25, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
Ron Prince stabbed Matt Boss in the locker room and drug his lifeless corpse onto the field during practice and humped it like he was in a Chappelle skit.   

Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: jde512 on October 25, 2012, 12:33:48 PM
I'm still on the Bobby Petrino bandwagon. I'll even chip in on a new motorcycle.

That would be a transition like the Dallas Cowboys had when they fired Landry for Johnson.   - selling your soul to the devil never works out in the long run...
Petrino has no place in the BSFS.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: puniraptor on October 25, 2012, 12:36:45 PM
I'm still on the Bobby Petrino bandwagon. I'll even chip in on a new motorcycle.

That would be a transition like the Dallas Cowboys had when they fired Landry for Johnson.   - selling your soul to the devil never works out in the long run...
Petrino has no place in the BSFS.

LEST YE BE JUDGED

Kstate: redemption U
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Institutional Control on October 25, 2012, 12:40:49 PM
I'm still on the Bobby Petrino bandwagon. I'll even chip in on a new motorcycle.

That would be a transition like the Dallas Cowboys had when they fired Landry for Johnson.   - selling your soul to the devil never works out in the long run...
Petrino has no place in the BSFS.

Didn't that lead to a few Super Bowls? 
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Mr Bread on October 25, 2012, 12:43:31 PM
I'm still on the Bobby Petrino bandwagon. I'll even chip in on a new motorcycle.

That would be a transition like the Dallas Cowboys had when they fired Landry for Johnson.   - selling your soul to the devil never works out in the long run...
Petrino has no place in the BSFS.

Didn't that lead to a few Super Bowls?

Only two directly and then a third that Switzer drunked his way through with the team JJ built.  Confirmed the Cowboys regret the eff out of all of that winning and success.  They got a crap ton of recruiting restrictions and postseason bans because of it. 
Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: felix rex on October 25, 2012, 01:36:34 PM
I'm still on the Bobby Petrino bandwagon. I'll even chip in on a new motorcycle.

That would be a transition like the Dallas Cowboys had when they fired Landry for Johnson.   - selling your soul to the devil never works out in the long run...
Petrino has no place in the BSFS.

LEST YE BE JUDGED

Kstate: redemption U

BettyFordU
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: mortons toe on October 25, 2012, 01:41:43 PM
No, it wasn't just like Dimel!  Dimel only managed eight wins in three seasons at Houston.  Leavitt, who was 95-57 at South Florida, lost his job because of allegations that he had struck one of his players.  Leavitt won eight games the first season South Florida was promoted to a D-1 status.  He built South Florida out of literally nothing, for he was the program's first head coach.  By his 9th/10th season, I forget which, he had South Florida ranked in the top ten in the country at one point.  If I'm not mistaken he had South Florida ranked number 2 in the BCS, just behind Ohio State.  If you check the facts Dimel can't hold a candle to Leavitt.  Go 'Cats!

Michcat is delusional... just look at his posts when Bill came back, along with his views on RP. I worked very close to the program during RP's time and can tell you for a fact that the ship was sinking. Two more years would have had critical support staff and players heading for the exits.
 

Please start master thread with insidery stories about Ron et al

x2

Also please start a post digging up my posts about ron and Bill. *swoon* :shy:

You just licked RP's junk in this very thread, and don't lie about your views when Bill returned, Rusty.

Let's put it this way, RP had a track record of advising non-football staff on how to perform their job, and not in a civil manner. And not to mention, the growing number of High School coaches from around the state who were separating themselves from anything RP. He never made inappropriate comments to HS secretaries or anything like that.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 25, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
No, it wasn't just like Dimel!  Dimel only managed eight wins in three seasons at Houston.  Leavitt, who was 95-57 at South Florida, lost his job because of allegations that he had struck one of his players.  Leavitt won eight games the first season South Florida was promoted to a D-1 status.  He built South Florida out of literally nothing, for he was the program's first head coach.  By his 9th/10th season, I forget which, he had South Florida ranked in the top ten in the country at one point.  If I'm not mistaken he had South Florida ranked number 2 in the BCS, just behind Ohio State.  If you check the facts Dimel can't hold a candle to Leavitt.  Go 'Cats!

Michcat is delusional... just look at his posts when Bill came back, along with his views on RP. I worked very close to the program during RP's time and can tell you for a fact that the ship was sinking. Two more years would have had critical support staff and players heading for the exits.
 

Please start master thread with insidery stories about Ron et al

x2

Also please start a post digging up my posts about ron and Bill. *swoon* :shy:

You just licked RP's junk in this very thread, and don't lie about your views when Bill returned, Rusty.

Let's put it this way, RP had a track record of advising non-football staff on how to perform their job, and not in a civil manner. And not to mention, the growing number of High School coaches from around the state who were separating themselves from anything RP. He never made inappropriate comments to HS secretaries or anything like that.

I'm not lying, I enjoy posts about me and love seeing my old meltdowns. :Rusty:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: CHONGS on October 25, 2012, 02:05:56 PM
hmm sounds pretty mild morton.  I was expecting something more substantial than he was mean to people.  I mean he showed he was a bad coach, but I thought your closeness to the program would yield actual reasons why (other than being mean to non-football staff of course).
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 25, 2012, 02:08:06 PM
hmm sounds pretty mild morton.  I was expecting something more substantial than he was mean to people.  I mean he showed he was a bad coach, but I thought your closeness to the program would yield actual reasons why (other than being mean to non-football staff of course).

c'mon, it doesn't get much juicier than "not acting in a civil manner".
Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: felix rex on October 25, 2012, 04:25:22 PM
Bring the thunder, Morton! We can handle it!
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: mortons toe on October 25, 2012, 09:49:04 PM
hmm sounds pretty mild morton.  I was expecting something more substantial than he was mean to people.  I mean he showed he was a bad coach, but I thought your closeness to the program would yield actual reasons why (other than being mean to non-football staff of course).

haha... like I said, it's not like he made inappropriate comments to HS secretaries or anything.

Quote
I was expecting something more substantial than he was mean to people
 

The guy is a legit sociopath.
Title: Re: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on October 25, 2012, 09:56:27 PM
hmm sounds pretty mild morton.  I was expecting something more substantial than he was mean to people.  I mean he showed he was a bad coach, but I thought your closeness to the program would yield actual reasons why (other than being mean to non-football staff of course).

haha... like I said, it's not like he made inappropriate comments to HS secretaries or anything.

WE NEED DETAILS. INAPPROPRIATE CAN MEAN ANYTHING.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Katpappy on October 25, 2012, 10:00:01 PM
hmm sounds pretty mild morton.  I was expecting something more substantial than he was mean to people.  I mean he showed he was a bad coach, but I thought your closeness to the program would yield actual reasons why (other than being mean to non-football staff of course).

haha... like I said, it's not like he made inappropriate comments to HS secretaries or anything.

Quote
I was expecting something more substantial than he was mean to people
 

The guy is a legit sociopath.
Is this because he's black and may resemble someone from the Planet of the Apes?  :dunno:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: wetwillie on October 25, 2012, 10:00:50 PM
Morton's toe, did you witness Ron prince sexing any assistants wives?
Title: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: felix rex on October 26, 2012, 04:32:15 AM
 you're killing me here, Mort.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Benja on November 16, 2012, 11:37:51 AM
I guess Dickey calls all the plays on offense. He basically runs the show on O. Most people probably already knew that, but I hadn't ever heard that for sure until the other day. Snyds gets final approval, but Dickey is the man.

This makes me feel better about possibility of Dickey taking over after Snyds. It really doesn't matter that much if he can't recruit, Snyder basically gave up on recruiting and just plugged players into his system. It's about keeing the system more than anything else. And Dickey knows it inside and out.



Hmmm
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: MadCat on November 16, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
We have 2 O Coordinators and the Scheme Doctor as well as a hot shot Protege and you're saying the Oline coach is the one making all the calls?  :sdeek:
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Benja on November 16, 2012, 11:42:12 AM
We have 2 O Coordinators and the Scheme Doctor as well as a hot shot Protege and you're saying the Oline coach is the one making all the calls?  :sdeek:

I guess
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Benja on November 16, 2012, 11:42:52 AM
Maybe I shouldn't have said runs the show. He calls plays.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: MadCat on November 16, 2012, 11:43:55 AM
Maybe I shouldn't have said runs the show. He calls plays.
I think the key is if someone listens.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Benja on November 16, 2012, 11:47:05 AM
Maybe I shouldn't have said runs the show. He calls plays.
I think the key is if someone listens.

Fine. Who should we hire then?
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: MadCat on November 16, 2012, 11:48:34 AM
Maybe I shouldn't have said runs the show. He calls plays.
I think the key is if someone listens.

Fine. Who should we hire then?

Not saying you're wrong...I'm just playing Sean's advocate.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Skipper44 on November 16, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
I guess Dickey calls all the plays on offense. He basically runs the show on O. Most people probably already knew that, but I hadn't ever heard that for sure until the other day. Snyds gets final approval, but Dickey is the man.

This makes me feel better about possibility of Dickey taking over after Snyds. It really doesn't matter that much if he can't recruit, Snyder basically gave up on recruiting and just plugged players into his system. It's about keeing the system more than anything else. And Dickey knows it inside and out.



Hmmm
I find this post confusing, should Dickey = Dimel?
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: kso_FAN on November 16, 2012, 11:53:34 AM
I find this post confusing, should Dickey = Dimel?

Yeah, its Dimel. Miller has a bit of say too in the passing game, but I think this offense is mainly Dimel's.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Benja on November 16, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Maybe I shouldn't have said runs the show. He calls plays.
I think the key is if someone listens.

Fine. Who should we hire then?

Not saying you're wrong...I'm just playing Sean's advocate.

Yes I know. I was being facetious but honestly at first I hated the idea of Dickey taking over. I've warmed up to it just a tiny bit.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: MadCat on November 16, 2012, 12:14:59 PM
Maybe I shouldn't have said runs the show. He calls plays.
I think the key is if someone listens.

Fine. Who should we hire then?

Not saying you're wrong...I'm just playing Sean's advocate.

Yes I know. I was being facetious but honestly at first I hated the idea of Dickey taking over. I've warmed up to it just a tiny bit.

No problem.  Also, do you mean Dimel or Dickey?
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on November 16, 2012, 03:45:02 PM
KState is a place where you got to go all in on a pair of threes and hope for the best. That is why I absolutely hate the squeaky hire over Gottlieb. Hate it, Hate it, Hate it.

Rather ride a rocket ship that has equal chance to take you to the stratosphere or expolde on ignition, then get in a hot air ballon and drift fro awhile.

I vote for Coach Dolorean over anyone else. Take the chance on a young, currently successful guy with ties to the area. Everyone else is just a retread who wasnt successful at another place.

I think K-State sells itself short with wacky-ass hires like RP.  I would've had a hard time seeing how a Gottlieb hire was good for anything other than short-term publicity.

So, two differences between you and me.

But I also would approve of Coach Doeren if he gets the nod.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Domino on November 16, 2012, 03:50:31 PM
Maybe I'm just all-in on this season, but I'm completely fine if Bill at 74+ want to hold the hand of his son in making him the HC. Unlike the Sutton's, pretty sure our Sean doesn't have addiction to pain killers.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: Benja on November 16, 2012, 05:07:48 PM
I guess Dickey calls all the plays on offense. He basically runs the show on O. Most people probably already knew that, but I hadn't ever heard that for sure until the other day. Snyds gets final approval, but Dickey is the man.

This makes me feel better about possibility of Dickey taking over after Snyds. It really doesn't matter that much if he can't recruit, Snyder basically gave up on recruiting and just plugged players into his system. It's about keeing the system more than anything else. And Dickey knows it inside and out.



Hmmm
I find this post confusing, should Dickey = Dimel?


rough ridin' Dimel, yes. My bad.
Title: Re: COACHING SEARCH (Master Thread?)
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
KState is a place where you got to go all in on a pair of threes and hope for the best. That is why I absolutely hate the squeaky hire over Gottlieb. Hate it, Hate it, Hate it.

Rather ride a rocket ship that has equal chance to take you to the stratosphere or expolde on ignition, then get in a hot air ballon and drift fro awhile.

I vote for Coach Dolorean over anyone else. Take the chance on a young, currently successful guy with ties to the area. Everyone else is just a retread who wasnt successful at another place.

I think K-State sells itself short with wacky-ass hires like RP.  I would've had a hard time seeing how a Gottlieb hire was good for anything other than short-term publicity.

So, two differences between you and me.

But I also would approve of Coach Doeren if he gets the nod.

There is a fine line between "selling ourselves short" and "acknowledging reality".  And considering the current status of the program, the downside of Prince was pretty minimal, wouldn't you say? Ironically, it took another WTF hire to get us to where we are now. (Let's be honest, Snyder 2.0 was a WTF hire at the time.)