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Title: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 03:24:47 PM
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We know what you’re thinking: How in the world did UCLA not come out on top? Well, as dominant as the Bruins were under John Wooden, they didn’t even rank as a top-40 program in the 1940s. Meanwhile, Kentucky hasn’t finished lower than 10th in any decade. We’re guessing you’re nearly as shocked by Northwestern’s No. 77 ranking—pretty remarkable for a team that’s never made the NCAA Tournament. But with eight Big Ten programs in the Top 20, the Wildcats have faced some of college basketball’s toughest conference slates for more than seven decades. Just goes to show how much strength of schedule matters. ABOUT THE RANKINGS: Only active Division I programs are listed in the all-time ranking. CHESS (named for the system of rating chess players) considers only a school’s wins and losses. PREDICTOR considers only its scoring margin. RATING is a combination of the two. YRS indicates the number of seasons in which the program qualified for ranking, beginning in 1937-38 (the maximum number is 72). Schools that played fewer than five games against other qualified schools during a season did not qualify for that season, nor did schools that did not field teams or were on NCAA probation. A small penalty was assessed to a team’s rating for every season in which it failed to qualify.

Top 30:

1 Kentucky
2 UCLA
3 Kansas
4 North Carolina
5 Indiana
6 Illinois
7 Duke
8 Purdue
9 Ohio State
10 Iowa
11 Louisville
12 Notre Dame
13 Michigan
14 Minnesota
15 Michigan State
16 St. John’s
17 Cincinnati
18 Oklahoma State
19 Utah
20 Oklahoma
21 Villanova
22 NC State
23 Syracuse
24 Marquette
25 Southern California
26 DePaul
27 Kansas State
28 Wisconsin
29 Missouri
30 Stanford



(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Winters on March 23, 2012, 03:27:05 PM
We win, Wisconsin.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: mocat on March 23, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
eff me, WILL TAKE
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Brock Landers on March 23, 2012, 03:29:03 PM
LMFAO, in what universe is Illinois the 6th best of all time?  6th best in Big Ten history maybe.  I know you don't believe this Beems.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: ben ji on March 23, 2012, 03:29:16 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 03:38:32 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
Is Iowa a better program too?

I get what this list is saying, but get real.  Iowa would be a crap job for anyone not at a mid-major right now.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Brock Landers on March 23, 2012, 03:40:45 PM
Let's see......

Indiana - duh
Michigan State - 2NC's
Michigan - NC, Fab 5
Ohio State - NC, lots of FF's
Wisconsin - 1 NC
Illinois - 0 NC's, some FF's.  They've got a Helms banner though baby!!

So yeah, 6th best all time in Big 10 history.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: mocat on March 23, 2012, 03:41:21 PM
SUCK IT IOWA STATE YOU CAN NEVER BE US  :lol:
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: ChiComCat on March 23, 2012, 03:42:35 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Clearly.  KU is #3
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: ben ji on March 23, 2012, 03:49:50 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Would you rather consistently win or have success in the NCAA tournament?
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 03:55:13 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Clearly.  KU is #3



KU is 3rd in all-time tourney wins and top 5 in virtually every other category.  Plus we've got the longest active streak for consecutive tournament appearances.  Nice try, though.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 03:55:54 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Would you rather consistently win or have success in the NCAA tournament?


Consistently win.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2012, 04:02:08 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Minnesota?
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 23, 2012, 04:03:18 PM
PS.  Suck it mizzou.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Gooch on March 23, 2012, 04:03:48 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Clearly.  KU is #3



KU is 3rd in all-time tourney wins and top 5 in virtually every other category.  Plus we've got the longest active streak for consecutive tournament appearances.  Nice try, though.

Did he rough ridin' studder? He said clearly. Would you be less butthurt if he had said absolutely or how about positively? eff you are such a validation seeking bitch. People rough ridin' agree with you and you still flip the eff out. I hope you really are super rough ridin' rich with your trust fund and absolutely drowning in pussy because your life seems really terrible the way you operate here.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: ben ji on March 23, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Would you rather consistently win or have success in the NCAA tournament?


Consistently win.

Glad you can appreciate our DOD
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 04:04:41 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Minnesota?


Yeah, that one's a real head scratcher.  I guess they've had quite a few successful seasons wiped from the record books. 
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 04:07:36 PM
I stopped reading after seeing Iowa at #10....they have 3 final 4's.....4 elite 8's.....and 7 sweet 16's.....yet they are #10?


I guess consistently winning over a long period of time is more important than NCAA tournament performance in these rankings.

Clearly.  KU is #3



KU is 3rd in all-time tourney wins and top 5 in virtually every other category.  Plus we've got the longest active streak for consecutive tournament appearances.  Nice try, though.

Did he rough ridin' studder? He said clearly. Would you be less butthurt if he had said absolutely or how about positively? eff you are such a validation seeking bitch. People rough ridin' agree with you and you still flip the eff out. I hope you really are super rough ridin' rich with your trust fund and absolutely drowning in pussy because your life seems really terrible the way you operate here.



Whoa.... settle down there, chief. 


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Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2012, 04:09:48 PM
(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 :popcorn:

I never once said K-State was a better job, I said they were similar jobs you drunken sociopath.

LOL, at ranking a program 6th all time with no national titles.  They don't rank in the top 10 all time in wins, conference titles, tournament appearances, or tournament wins and have no national title but are the #6 program all time?  I have Gary Parrish and the coaching community on my side and you have this blogger.  The #6 program all time can't get a guy from the CAA who has one good March on his resume. :lol:
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 05:02:24 PM
(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 :popcorn:

I never once said K-State was a better job, I said they were similar jobs you drunken sociopath.

LOL, at ranking a program 6th all time with no national titles.  They don't rank in the top 10 all time in wins, conference titles, tournament appearances, or tournament wins and have no national title but are the #6 program all time?  I have Gary Parrish and the coaching community on my side and you have this blogger.  The #6 program all time can't get a guy from the CAA who has one good March on his resume. :lol:


Wow... it doesn't take much to get you riled up.  Seek therapy. 
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2012, 05:03:29 PM
hey, KState made the list  :thumbs:
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 23, 2012, 05:05:46 PM
thanks for posting this list of something ku didn't win, beems
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: wabash909 on March 23, 2012, 05:11:21 PM
Purdue #8 all time.   :lol:

Where do you come up with this stuff, Beems?

Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2012, 05:13:13 PM
(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 :popcorn:

I never once said K-State was a better job, I said they were similar jobs you drunken sociopath.

LOL, at ranking a program 6th all time with no national titles.  They don't rank in the top 10 all time in wins, conference titles, tournament appearances, or tournament wins and have no national title but are the #6 program all time?  I have Gary Parrish and the coaching community on my side and you have this blogger.  The #6 program all time can't get a guy from the CAA who has one good March on his resume. :lol:


Wow... it doesn't take much to get you riled up.  Seek therapy.

Not at all riled up, I'm laying on my couch in my office kicked up.  Just pointing out that you're a drunken sociopath.  I'll call a therapist if you promise to call a taxi tonight. :cheers:
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 23, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
I think everyones just a little on edge about the Frank situ.

I know I am.  :frown:
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: wabash909 on March 23, 2012, 05:23:34 PM
So, which team is #8 according to this "ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings" list?  Trick question.


K-State

NCAA Tournament Appearances All Time:  26

Sweet 16 Appearances All Time: 16

Elite 8 Appearances All Time: 12

Final 4 Appearances All Time: 4

National Title Game Appearances All Time: 1

Conference Championships: 17

All Americans: 11



Purdue

NCAA Tournament Appearances All Time:  26

Sweet 16 Appearances All Time: 9

Elite 8 Appearances All Time: 4

Final 4 Appearances All Time: 2

National Title Game Appearances All Time: 1

Conference Championships: 22

All Americans: 17


Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 :popcorn:

I never once said K-State was a better job, I said they were similar jobs you drunken sociopath.

LOL, at ranking a program 6th all time with no national titles.  They don't rank in the top 10 all time in wins, conference titles, tournament appearances, or tournament wins and have no national title but are the #6 program all time?  I have Gary Parrish and the coaching community on my side and you have this blogger.  The #6 program all time can't get a guy from the CAA who has one good March on his resume. :lol:


Wow... it doesn't take much to get you riled up.  Seek therapy.

Not at all riled up, I'm laying on my couch in my office kicked up.  Just pointing out that you're a drunken sociopath.  I'll call a therapist if you promise to call a taxi tonight. :cheers:


I don't think you know what a sociopath is, and I haven't had a drink in months.  I made a mistake and drove drunk.  Doesn't mean I'm an alcoholic.  Keep getting personal, though.  It just reflects poorly on you as a person.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2012, 05:33:16 PM
hey, KState made the list  :thumbs:

And we're not even #1 in our own state!
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2012, 05:34:02 PM
hey, KState made the list  :thumbs:

And we're not even #1 in our own state!

just shows how awesome our state is!
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 05:35:24 PM
Most surprising thing to me from that list is that UConn isn't even top 50.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 23, 2012, 05:35:48 PM
hey, KState made the list  :thumbs:

And we're not even #1 in our own state!

just shows how awesome our state is!

Totally.  Ad Astra bro. 
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 23, 2012, 05:37:17 PM
hey, KState made the list  :thumbs:

And we're not even #1 in our own state!

just shows how awesome our state is!


Seriously, between both athletic departments, we have almost $142 million in total revenue.  Meanwhile, Mizzou can't even crack $60 million as the only BCS school in their state.  Just incredible how awesome the state of Kansas is.  TSC!
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: yosh on March 23, 2012, 06:09:40 PM
There's something screwy about the big 10 teams.  I mean, you could say that they are all over rated, but they are also out of order.  It's like somebody just plugged all the big ten teams in the top 15 radomly.   :dunno: 
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2012, 07:40:16 PM
GET OUT THE PAINT!!!
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: kim carnes on March 23, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
Most surprising thing to me from that list is that UConn isn't even top 50.

thats because the list you posted is rough ridin' stupid you idiot.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 :popcorn:

I never once said K-State was a better job, I said they were similar jobs you drunken sociopath.

LOL, at ranking a program 6th all time with no national titles.  They don't rank in the top 10 all time in wins, conference titles, tournament appearances, or tournament wins and have no national title but are the #6 program all time?  I have Gary Parrish and the coaching community on my side and you have this blogger.  The #6 program all time can't get a guy from the CAA who has one good March on his resume. :lol:


Wow... it doesn't take much to get you riled up.  Seek therapy.

Not at all riled up, I'm laying on my couch in my office kicked up.  Just pointing out that you're a drunken sociopath.  I'll call a therapist if you promise to call a taxi tonight. :cheers:


I don't think you know what a sociopath is, and I haven't had a drink in months.  I made a mistake and drove drunk.  Doesn't mean I'm an alcoholic.  Keep getting personal, though.  It just reflects poorly on you as a person.

I definitely know what a sociopath is and you are one, but I shouldn't make fun of alcoholism, it isn't funny.  Sorry.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2012, 08:09:05 PM
Most surprising thing to me from that list is that UConn isn't even top 50.

thats because the list you posted is rough ridin' stupid you idiot.

Any list of best teams with multiple top 10 teams with no championships but that has a school 6th all-time in number of championships and 28th in wins but not in the top 50 is totally legitimate.
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: OregonSmock on March 24, 2012, 03:05:39 AM
(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 :popcorn:

I never once said K-State was a better job, I said they were similar jobs you drunken sociopath.

LOL, at ranking a program 6th all time with no national titles.  They don't rank in the top 10 all time in wins, conference titles, tournament appearances, or tournament wins and have no national title but are the #6 program all time?  I have Gary Parrish and the coaching community on my side and you have this blogger.  The #6 program all time can't get a guy from the CAA who has one good March on his resume. :lol:


Wow... it doesn't take much to get you riled up.  Seek therapy.

Not at all riled up, I'm laying on my couch in my office kicked up.  Just pointing out that you're a drunken sociopath.  I'll call a therapist if you promise to call a taxi tonight. :cheers:


I don't think you know what a sociopath is, and I haven't had a drink in months.  I made a mistake and drove drunk.  Doesn't mean I'm an alcoholic.  Keep getting personal, though.  It just reflects poorly on you as a person.

I definitely know what a sociopath is and you are one, but I shouldn't make fun of alcoholism, it isn't funny.  Sorry.



Not even close.  If anything, I care too much about what you guys think of me, and I open myself up too much to your continued abuse.  As for alcoholism, it's not funny, and no, I'm not an alcoholic.  If anything, I'm a pothead, but I haven't smoked or drank in months, like I said.  You are the one who seems to be overly aggressive and a little extra sensitive.  Take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you get so personal over a post that merely lists Sagarin/ESPN's top 30 programs of all-time. 

As I said earlier, seek therapy. 
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: MakeItRain on March 24, 2012, 10:11:41 AM
(LOL @ MIR, who insisted that K-State's program was better than Illinois')

 :popcorn:

I never once said K-State was a better job, I said they were similar jobs you drunken sociopath.

LOL, at ranking a program 6th all time with no national titles.  They don't rank in the top 10 all time in wins, conference titles, tournament appearances, or tournament wins and have no national title but are the #6 program all time?  I have Gary Parrish and the coaching community on my side and you have this blogger.  The #6 program all time can't get a guy from the CAA who has one good March on his resume. :lol:


Wow... it doesn't take much to get you riled up.  Seek therapy.

Not at all riled up, I'm laying on my couch in my office kicked up.  Just pointing out that you're a drunken sociopath.  I'll call a therapist if you promise to call a taxi tonight. :cheers:


I don't think you know what a sociopath is, and I haven't had a drink in months.  I made a mistake and drove drunk.  Doesn't mean I'm an alcoholic.  Keep getting personal, though.  It just reflects poorly on you as a person.

I definitely know what a sociopath is and you are one, but I shouldn't make fun of alcoholism, it isn't funny.  Sorry.



Not even close.  If anything, I care too much about what you guys think of me, and I open myself up too much to your continued abuse.  As for alcoholism, it's not funny, and no, I'm not an alcoholic.  If anything, I'm a pothead, but I haven't smoked or drank in months, like I said.  You are the one who seems to be overly aggressive and a little extra sensitive.  Take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you get so personal over a post that merely lists Sagarin/ESPN's top 30 programs of all-time. 

As I said earlier, seek therapy.

 
Only a crazy person would procreate with that nasty ginger thing you call a wife.

stones, glass houses, etc. of course there are several more examples of you melting down and acting foolish.  Should I give you a pass for these incidences because you were drunk/high?
Title: Re: ESPN/Sagarin all-time rankings
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2012, 12:36:53 PM
hey, KState made the list  :thumbs:

And we're not even #1 in our own state!

just shows how awesome our state is!


Seriously, between both athletic departments, we have almost $142 million in total revenue.  Meanwhile, Mizzou can't even crack $60 million as the only BCS school in their state.  Just incredible how awesome the state of Kansas is.  TSC!

Just found a new talking point.  I am going to try it on for size tonight.