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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: j-dub on March 18, 2012, 04:00:22 PM
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It makes me sad to see otherwise good people so obsessed with wanting to cheat to win, and ignore the rules. If you think the rules should change, that's one thing. If you think we should be bigger than the rules and cheat go be a kU or Kentucky fan. You fit better there. K-State doesn't need you. Win and win clean.
In the scheme of everything, it's one loss- not years of NCAA tiptoeing. I think Currie made the right call and fully back his decision. As Frank said it is better to err on the side of caution. And as you said, we had a 50/50 shot with JamSam and that decreased without his leadership on the court. We should be very proud of the first half and the season as a whole.
I just wish he hadn't said the line about "I don't think he did anything wrong." It's imporant to be unified
Jamar Samuels got a wire transfer of $200 from his former AAU coach on Monday. Someone saw it happen, so he was ineligible for the game yesterday. A lot of people seem to think K-State should have looked the other way. But instead, they did the right thing,and were fighting to get him eligible again, which did not happen in time for the game.
I'm not so sure why Frank felt he had to distance himself from the decision so much. Currie's job, just in the nature of being the AD is to be the bad guy, Frank didn't need to press that.
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I think he clearly wanted Jamar to play. And he's never one to hide his feelings. But that's why there's an AD and a compliance officer. They're the ones who make those calls. That's the way it SHOULD be at every school.
Wow! $200 doesn't seem worth the risk. I agree though. Winning doesn't count unless it's clean.
That's part of the problem. A lot of people saying, "it was just $200!" That doesn't make it legal though. Where's the line? $250? $500? $1000? The emotion of having it be right before a tourney game is making people even less rational than usual, too.
I am surprised someone would sacrifice their career and reputation for just $200. I think a school should enforce the rules for anything. It's a slippery slope, and a lot of people's integrity on the line.
He knows. They sit though so many lectures on what they can and can't do. And they know that if in doubt to ask the compliance officer. Somewhere that broke down. And while it may turn out to not be a violation, being that close to one made him ineligible until the NCAA rules on it. And that's the mistake.
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I also don't buy too much into the he needed cash theory. Players can eat. He chose to put himself in that position by mishandling what he was given. They also get $30 a day per diem while at the tournament. He didn't need an extra $200.
I'm not arguing that he wasn't going to eat and yes he should have asked somebody, but it just doesn't feel dirty to me. Maybe I'm too far removed or naive. Bottom line- we didn't win, but at least it was clean.
Amen, brother! The athletes know, and it's a shame to go down that road.
The argument that Malone is a family friend is BS. I'm not saying his heart isn't in the right place, but the rules are the rules for a reason. You start stretching the definition of a pre-existing relationship, and suddenly anything goes. Don't get mad at Currie. Get mad at the NCAA. Or get mad at Jamar. What, he needs food? Like K-State doesn't feed him 24/7 during the postseason? Give me a break. This happened Monday. I can think of several things he probably wanted money for, none of which are food.
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Why are you friends with so many tucks?
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
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post his rough ridin' name NOOOOOWWW
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Wow if 98% of those came from one facebook account.
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You're friends with bob strawn?
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You're friends with bob strawn?
might as well be.
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reasonable fella getting tucked by tuck-bitb
His AAU coach is a friend in my opinion since he's no longer his coach and that's legal! It was crap. He should've played. Darrel arthur shouldn't have been eligible for ball at all and he won a national title with ku...
it may come out that way, but it's not your opinion, or Franks, that makes him eligible.
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Panj replied to this person on twitter, so I kind of stole it from him.
I ended the day proud of KSU administration and angry at Frank and Jamar.
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Panj replied to this person on twitter, so I kind of stole it from him.
I ended the day proud of KSU administration and angry at Frank and Jamar.
absolutely sickening
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It'd be interesting to see how the tucks would react if Spradling was the one who received $200.
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It'd be interesting to see how the tucks would react if Spradling was the one who received $200.
from a non-tuck friend: i bet if Will was getting a wire transfer, no one would have said a thing
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Is that the non-tuck that comments on all of your facebook comments and also posts here?
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Is that the non-tuck that comments on all of your facebook comments and also posts here?
nope. it's a non-tuck who you know and love. tall, adorable with a shock of reddish-blond hair. :love:
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Oh man, that's great.
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One thing I've noticed in all this is a few people I've suspected of being hardcore tucks have been pro-Frank pro-Jamar anti-KSU administration on this. Really proud of them and ashamed of myself for doubting their EMAW.
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Do squawk tucks count?
Lord may I be humble like Elijah Johnson. #iamlearning #classact
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halk basketball fan:
Who is this Hummel person??
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I have to think that believing Jamar used the $200 for food or some other selfish indiscretion = :opcat:
Doesn't it stand to reason that one of Jamar's reportedly 30 family members in Pittsburgh for the games may have needed a hotel room, etc.?
Just putting it out there, no real evidence, but it can be pretty revealing to see just how much faith individuals put in explanations for a situation that we just don't have the facts to truly determine.
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It'd be interesting to see how the tucks would react if Spradling was the one who received $200.
Too "heady" in their minds to take that money. Plus, he's from JoCo... His parents have like a bajillion dollars they give him every day.
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It'd be interesting to see how the tucks would react if Spradling was the one who received $200.
Too "heady" in their minds to take that money. Plus, he's from JoCo... His parents have like a bajillion dollars they give him every day.
Please post more. Mr. Boston <--- :lol:
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All this anger is directed at the wrong people. We need not be pissed ad the AD, Frank, Jamar, or whoever else in the KSU CoC.
The bastard who reported this is to blame. The KSU administration was in a difficult predicament when the information was reported to them. I don't fault our administration and it's tough to get too pissed at JamSam for a measly $200. However, I do have a raging hardon for the jackass at Dillons who thought he needed to report this information. That dumbass deserves to have his legs broken.
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here you go shivvyman
http://local.westernunion.com/locator/66502_Manhattan_Kansas_USA_1_result.html
do some work
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How can anyone honestly hold this opinion without trying to be a douche?
Reminds me of the kid in my class who argued, passionately, that we shouldn't celebrate the death of Osama Bin Laden. It's unfathomable that someone could be this tuck. Unfathomable.
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How can anyone honestly hold this opinion without trying to be a douche?
Reminds me of the kid in my class who argued, passionately, that we shouldn't celebrate the death of Osama Bin Laden. It's unfathomable that someone could be this tuck. Unfathomable.
:facepalm: yeah just like that. Also please change your personal message, it's embarrassing to us all.
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How can anyone honestly hold this opinion without trying to be a douche?
Reminds me of the kid in my class who argued, passionately, that we shouldn't celebrate the death of Osama Bin Laden. It's unfathomable that someone could be this tuck. Unfathomable.
:facepalm: yeah just like that. Also please change your personal message, it's embarrassing to us all.
not even that. instead why not just delete your whole account and try again. good grief.
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
really? i thought it got super tucked later in the episode when they started talking "white boys" and ksu fball "walk ons" and "joe bob" and "jordy". jmo though.
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How can anyone honestly hold this opinion without trying to be a douche?
Reminds me of the kid in my class who argued, passionately, that we shouldn't celebrate the death of Osama Bin Laden. It's unfathomable that someone could be this tuck. Unfathomable.
:facepalm: yeah just like that. Also please change your personal message, it's embarrassing to us all.
Duly noted.
Now suck my balls.
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
really? i thought it got super tucked later in the episode when they started talking "white boys" and ksu fball "walk ons" and "joe bob" and "jordy". jmo though.
Right, but I didn't want to repeat my mistake of posting non-jamar/currie tucking in this thread.
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
:surprised: ummm.. :thumbs:
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
:surprised: ummm.. :thumbs:
worth listening to?
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
really? i thought it got super tucked later in the episode when they started talking "white boys" and ksu fball "walk ons" and "joe bob" and "jordy". jmo though.
Right, but I didn't want to repeat my mistake of posting non-jamar/currie tucking in this thread.
I'd never heard that podcast before, their production value is quite good. There were quite a few tuck buzz phrases in the Jamar segment.
-"K-State Culture"
-"go be a Kentucky or KU fan" I find it funny that these guys can remember random things about Joe Bob and Brandon Archer but have seemingly forgotten that KSU football has been sanctioned under LHC Bill Snyder.
And my two personal favorites
-referring to all AAU people as "scummy," eff that guy and his mom
-"I figured you'd agree with me because you're a high integrity guy"
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
really? i thought it got super tucked later in the episode when they started talking "white boys" and ksu fball "walk ons" and "joe bob" and "jordy". jmo though.
Right, but I didn't want to repeat my mistake of posting non-jamar/currie tucking in this thread.
I'd never heard that podcast before, their production value is quite good. There were quite a few tuck buzz phrases in the Jamar segment.
-"K-State Culture"
-"go be a Kentucky or KU fan" I find it funny that these guys can remember random things about Joe Bob and Brandon Archer but have seemingly forgotten that KSU football has been sanctioned under LHC Bill Snyder.
And my two personal favorites
-referring to all AAU people as "scummy," eff that guy and his mom
-"I figured you'd agree with me because you're a high integrity guy"
thanks for the cliffs MIR :thumbs:
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
:surprised: ummm.. :thumbs:
:lol:
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98% of this from one tuck's wall. he's bitb at tucking.
This guy? http://www.collegesportsvision.com/podcasts/46.mp3
Really the whole thing, but Jam talk starts around 18:30, and crap gets fully tucked around 24:00.
:surprised: ummm.. :thumbs:
worth listening to?
If you like to PI the crap out of tucks on twitter for their ridiculous podcasts and facebook posts featuring racist, tucky comments like MIR cited, yeah. Make sure you're multi-tasking though; generally, it's awful.
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Riley Gates
?@Riley_Gates
Freshman in HS.Play Fball bball & golf.Catholic.Love #kstate #EMAW.Future plans?Voice of the Wildcats.Dad is @BeloitGates recruiting editor for PI and GPC.com
Beloit, KS
NEW BLOG! Cover the Jamar Samuels story, why we dont hate John Currie, and why Frank is our coach. http://tinyurl.com/6umr4po
WE ARE #KSTATE. If other schools wanna cheat their way through thats their decision. But thats not the KSU way. #EMAW
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Riley Gates
?@Riley_Gates
Freshman in HS.Play Fball bball & golf.Catholic.Love #kstate #EMAW.Future plans?Voice of the Wildcats.Dad is @BeloitGates recruiting editor for PI and GPC.com
Beloit, KS
NEW BLOG! Cover the Jamar Samuels story, why we dont hate John Currie, and why Frank is our coach. http://tinyurl.com/6umr4po
WE ARE #KSTATE. If other schools wanna cheat their way through thats their decision. But thats not the KSU way. #EMAW
From highlighted link.
You can’t say John Currie is a bad AD, and if you do, stop thinking you’re a K-State fan.
:jerk:
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i just can't get over tucks.. i'll never understand how Jamar is to blame and the ncaa is above reproach. it's a corrupt and broken system. i swear, all i keep coming back to is the thought that tucks would have made perfect nazi's..
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he's back and better than ever
Life works better when you think rationally and with ethics rather than having your opinions spoon fed to you by anonymous idiots on message boards.
Trust me... never go near them. Wish more people had a clue.
and it's more than leaked over to Twitter. And Facebook. I see idiots everywhere I go.
NEVER GO NEAR THEM
:lol:
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All this anger is directed at the wrong people. We need not be pissed ad the AD, Frank, Jamar, or whoever else in the KSU CoC.
The bastard who reported this is to blame. The KSU administration was in a difficult predicament when the information was reported to them. I don't fault our administration and it's tough to get too pissed at JamSam for a measly $200. However, I do have a raging hardon for the jackass at Dillons who thought he needed to report this information. That dumbass deserves to have his legs broken.
My sentiments exactly. It really sucks that the whistle-blower, like some Internet troll, gets to remain anonymous. Give me a name, and I'm just crazy, angry, and stupid enough to take care of it.
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he's back and better than ever
Life works better when you think rationally and with ethics rather than having your opinions spoon fed to you by anonymous idiots on message boards.
Trust me... never go near them. Wish more people had a clue.
and it's more than leaked over to Twitter. And Facebook. I see idiots everywhere I go.
NEVER GO NEAR THEM
:lol:
http://www.miketufano.com/2012/03/27/i-know-a-spot-that-i-love-full-well/
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So I know that alot of people are against this, but I like the idea of hiring Tim Jankovich.
:barf:
So im not at all impressed with the way Frank left, and Ive decided that I rather have a career losing coach that is loyal than some ASS that uses us and is full of crap for 5 years.
:curse:
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So im not at all impressed with the way Frank left, and Ive decided that I rather have a career losing coach that is loyal than some ASS that uses us and is full of crap for 5 years.
:curse:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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he's back and better than ever
Life works better when you think rationally and with ethics rather than having your opinions spoon fed to you by anonymous idiots on message boards.
Trust me... never go near them. Wish more people had a clue.
and it's more than leaked over to Twitter. And Facebook. I see idiots everywhere I go.
NEVER GO NEAR THEM
:lol:
http://www.miketufano.com/2012/03/27/i-know-a-spot-that-i-love-full-well/
yuck.
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:lol:
goEMAW is a "fringe group" and j-dub and CF3 are a couple jackasses.
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:lol:
goEMAW is a "fringe group" and j-dub and CF3 are a couple jackasses.
Edit: Based on qualifying statements only J-Dub is a jackass. I was not at the rally.
:dubious:
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:lol:
goEMAW is a "fringe group" and j-dub and CF3 are a couple jackasses.
:dubious:
:lol:
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So im not at all impressed with the way Frank left, and Ive decided that I rather have a career losing coach that is loyal than some ASS that uses us and is full of crap for 5 years.
I find it almost impossible to believe that people are THIS far tucked. This almost seems made! Sickening.
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So im not at all impressed with the way Frank left, and Ive decided that I rather have a career losing coach that is loyal than some ASS that uses us and is full of crap for 5 years.
I find it almost impossible to believe that people are THIS far tucked. This almost seems made! Sickening.
They'd rather have a long shitty marriage than be alone....seems to fit with tucking....
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and people with a lot of insecurity
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and people that believe the meek will inherit the earth
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also people who fear what they don't understand
people who refuse to adapt
people who like to surround themselves with like minded individuals for validation
people that want KSU's MBB eulogy to mirror their own.
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There are more of them than you can imagine.
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So im not at all impressed with the way Frank left, and Ive decided that I rather have a career losing coach that is loyal than some ASS that uses us and is full of crap for 5 years.
I find it almost impossible to believe that people are THIS far tucked. This almost seems made! Sickening.
I can understand being butthurt by Frank leaving, and having this thought. But after writing it down, wouldn't you come to? Who would wish for a career loser, in any scenario?!?
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I always thought many of our fans would turn on Frank quickly as soon as things went south OR he left for somewhere else. I'm not that surprised really to see the backlash.
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if you guys haven't noticed it's not just the tucks who have turned on Frank unless half the posters here are tucks. which might be true. maybe we should start linking to posts on goEMAW instead of gpc and ksf as examples of outrageous tuckism.
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:lol:
goEMAW is a "fringe group" and j-dub and CF3 are a couple jackasses.
:lol:
will take!!
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if you guys haven't noticed it's not just the tucks who have turned on Frank unless half the posters here are tucks. which might be true. maybe we should start linking to posts on goEMAW instead of gpc and ksf as examples of outrageous tuckism.
I don't think half the posters here have turned on Frank.