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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: JKEYS on February 01, 2012, 11:38:41 AM
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KU, @ Baylor, @Mizzou: Win 1 of 3
@Tex, ISU, @aTm: Win 2 of 3
aTm, OSU, Tech: Win 3 of 3
Seems doable right? Would leave us with two maurqee wins, a possible W over ISU (tourney team at this point) plus the pre-season W's over Alabama (looking weaker every game) and LBS. Smells like a tourney resume to me! :emawkid:
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works for me :frown: maybe
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If ths happens, I will just be pissed that we should have gone 12-6 or 13-5 except for stupid losses.
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I'm hoping for 9-9.
I think .500 is very realistic expectation, and very attainable.
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I'm hoping for 9-9.
I think .500 is very realistic expectation, and very attainable.
I was a 10-8 guy (too lazy to look up the post), but 9-9 looks more realistic with the OU home loss.
I'd probably break it down like this:
11-7 <5%
10-8 20%
9-9 40%
8-10 30%
7-11 <5%
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I'm hoping for 9-9.
I think .500 is very realistic expectation, and very attainable.
I was a 10-8 guy (too lazy to look up the post), but 9-9 looks more realistic with the OU home loss.
I'd probably break it down like this:
11-7 <5%
10-8 20%
9-9 40%
8-10 30%
7-11 <5%
11-7 <5%
10-8 10%
9-9 30%
8-10 50%
7-11 <5%
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I think 9-9 gets us in. Bubble teams comes down to politics. If you don't think the tourney committee doesn't want a figure like Frank on the sidelines, you're all crazy. It's little crap like this that they look for.
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I think 9-9 gets us in. Bubble teams comes down to politics. If you don't think the tourney committe doesn't want a figure like Frank on the sidelines, you're all crazy. It's little crap like this that they look for.
Actually 9-9 would get us in because of at least one very good win, several decent wins, and no bad losses. (OU will be top 100 RPI, but that home loss may be viewed as "bad"). It's better than most bubble teams. For example, compare us to ISU. They have an equivalent quality win, but they lost to Drake and Northern Iowa. We'd probably get in over them if the season ended today.
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:emawkid:
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I think 9-9 gets us in. Bubble teams comes down to politics. If you don't think the tourney committe doesn't want a figure like Frank on the sidelines, you're all crazy. It's little crap like this that they look for.
Actually 9-9 would get us in because of at least one very good win, several decent wins, and no bad losses. (OU will be top 100 RPI, but that home loss may be viewed as "bad"). It's better than most bubble teams. For example, compare us to ISU. They have an equivalent quality win, but they lost to Drake and Northern Iowa. We'd probably get in over them if the season ended today.
Will Bama and LBSU fall out of the top 50 by season's end?
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I think 9-9 gets us in. Bubble teams comes down to politics. If you don't think the tourney committe doesn't want a figure like Frank on the sidelines, you're all crazy. It's little crap like this that they look for.
Actually 9-9 would get us in because of at least one very good win, several decent wins, and no bad losses. (OU will be top 100 RPI, but that home loss may be viewed as "bad"). It's better than most bubble teams. For example, compare us to ISU. They have an equivalent quality win, but they lost to Drake and Northern Iowa. We'd probably get in over them if the season ended today.
Will Bama and LBSU fall out of the top 50 by season's end?
Doesn't matter, we won.
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I think 9-9 gets us in. Bubble teams comes down to politics. If you don't think the tourney committe doesn't want a figure like Frank on the sidelines, you're all crazy. It's little crap like this that they look for.
Actually 9-9 would get us in because of at least one very good win, several decent wins, and no bad losses. (OU will be top 100 RPI, but that home loss may be viewed as "bad"). It's better than most bubble teams. For example, compare us to ISU. They have an equivalent quality win, but they lost to Drake and Northern Iowa. We'd probably get in over them if the season ended today.
True, but "if the season ended today" discussions on Feb 1 are tough. There is too much basketball left, too many scenarios, and too many bubble teams out there to say anything definitive. I'm really only worried about K-State taking care of themselves. For example, beating KU at home would be huge; 2 wins of that caliber (and no bad losses, like aTm at home this Sat for example) would put us in really good shape (and likely put us in position to finish 10-8 for that matter).
Outside of KU, we "should" win all the rest of our home games, kp has them all at 70% or better. Then you've got @aTm (kp has at 70%) and @UT, you should at least split those. If we get to 9-9 by going 4-1 at home (loss to KU) and going 1-3 on the road (win @aTm), then its tougher, but not impossible, because MU will be a really good win.
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I think 9-9 gets us in. Bubble teams comes down to politics. If you don't think the tourney committe doesn't want a figure like Frank on the sidelines, you're all crazy. It's little crap like this that they look for.
Actually 9-9 would get us in because of at least one very good win, several decent wins, and no bad losses. (OU will be top 100 RPI, but that home loss may be viewed as "bad"). It's better than most bubble teams. For example, compare us to ISU. They have an equivalent quality win, but they lost to Drake and Northern Iowa. We'd probably get in over them if the season ended today.
Will Bama and LBSU fall out of the top 50 by season's end?
Doesn't matter, we won.
Wouldn't it eliminate those as "good wins"?
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I think 9-9 gets us in. Bubble teams comes down to politics. If you don't think the tourney committe doesn't want a figure like Frank on the sidelines, you're all crazy. It's little crap like this that they look for.
Actually 9-9 would get us in because of at least one very good win, several decent wins, and no bad losses. (OU will be top 100 RPI, but that home loss may be viewed as "bad"). It's better than most bubble teams. For example, compare us to ISU. They have an equivalent quality win, but they lost to Drake and Northern Iowa. We'd probably get in over them if the season ended today.
Will Bama and LBSU fall out of the top 50 by season's end?
Doesn't matter, we won.
Wouldn't it eliminate those as "good wins"?
Yeah, but I don't think it matters much.
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Wouldn't it eliminate those as "good wins"?
I don't think either are likely to fall out of the Top 50.
Another issue is we really only have 4 more opportunities (besides the league tournament) for quality wins. KU, @BU, @MU, and ISU (and that might be a stretch, though they are Top 50 now). We really need to get at least one more from that KU, @BU, @MU, and ISU stretch.
I have a feeling those OU losses, especially at home, could really hurt us. And we pretty much have to sweep aTm.
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I have a feeling those OU losses, especially at home, could really hurt us. And we pretty much have to sweep aTm.
I agree we probably have to sweep aTm, but I don't think the road OU loss hurts much - they're #69. The home one does a little, but nothing too crazy. Nothing like Iowa and Oregon or CSU and New Mexico. They just aren't as bad as everyone believes they are.
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I have a feeling those OU losses, especially at home, could really hurt us. And we pretty much have to sweep aTm.
I agree we probably have to sweep aTm, but I don't think the road OU loss hurts much - they're #69. The home one does a little, but nothing too crazy. Nothing like Iowa and Oregon or CSU and New Mexico. They just aren't as bad as everyone believes they are.
I don't think they are horrible, but its likely they finish higher than that, probably in the high 70s. If we finish 9-9, we'll probably in the mid 40s which will be right in the middle of the bubble.
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I think 9-9 gets us in. Bubble teams comes down to politics. If you don't think the tourney committee doesn't want a figure like Frank on the sidelines, you're all crazy. It's little crap like this that they look for.
EXACTLY remember when we were a bubble team and beat T-Tech in BIGXII tournament making us a lock for NCAAs OOPS they wanted Bob Knight instead. As I recall Tech was tired when they played us so our win didn't count.
ON the other hand despite Frank on the sidelines we are still K-State and if there is some way for us to get hosed out of a slot it will probably happen.