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Title: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2012, 03:27:55 PM
1st   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   35   0.83   37.9%   28.7%   47.8%   15.2%
Opp   35   1.09   48.4%   20.1%   27.8%   29.0%

2nd   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   33   1.35   56.5%   27.6%   68.4%   41.9%
Opp   33   1.35   75.0%   18.4%   12.5%   85.0%

Total   Pace   PPP   eFG%   TO%   OR%   FTR
KSU   68   1.07   46.9%   28.0%   57.1%   28.1%
Opp   68   1.21   58.8%   19.1%   23.1%   51.0%

Most of what needs to be said has been said. Two 2nd half performances in a row allowing 1.3+ points per possession. I remember when we were a 2nd half team... :sigh:
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: kougar24 on January 14, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
"Getting"? Are.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2012, 03:38:28 PM
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.

Crazy thing is 4 days ago we were a handful of possessions away from beating undefeated top 10 opponents in back to back games. Now we're here and sitting 1-3. Fine line I suppose.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2012, 03:40:19 PM
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.

Crazy thing is 4 days ago we were a handful of possessions away from beating undefeated top 10 opponents in back to back games. Now we're here and sitting 1-3. Fine line I suppose.
yeah when you try to play the jyc style its a very thin margin of error when it comes to stuff like TOs and defensive lapses.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: kougar24 on January 14, 2012, 03:42:24 PM
We had a 40-minute long defense lapse today.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: catzacker on January 14, 2012, 03:45:05 PM
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.

Crazy thing is 4 days ago we were a handful of possessions away from beating undefeated top 10 opponents in back to back games. Now we're here and sitting 1-3. Fine line I suppose.

sitting 1-3 and staring down having to play 3 of our next 5 on the road.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: sys on January 14, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.

yes.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: sys on January 14, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
We had a 40-minute long defense lapse today.

pretty thick line, really.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: kougar24 on January 14, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
We had a 40-minute long defense lapse today.

pretty thick line, really.

LOL
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 14, 2012, 03:50:04 PM
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.

yes.

If we are going to kick the ball all over the gym I'd much rather see our freshman point guard do it instead of a group of tweeners.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.

yes.

If we are going to kick the ball all over the gym I'd much rather see our freshman point guard do it instead of a group of tweeners.

This. The point was made in the first half.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2012, 08:14:03 PM
amazing that we matched their efficiency in the second half. Even with our insane OR%.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 14, 2012, 08:16:46 PM
amazing that we matched their efficiency in the second half. Even with our insane OR%.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2012, 08:18:08 PM
amazing that we matched their efficiency in the second half. Even with our insane OR%.

 :facepalm:

when you don't understand what is going on, it's ok to just sit one out, bud.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2012, 08:21:57 PM
amazing that we matched their efficiency in the second half. Even with our insane OR%.

Yes. Crazy, but another frustration really.
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 14, 2012, 08:22:30 PM
amazing that we matched their efficiency in the second half. Even with our insane OR%.

 :facepalm:

when you don't understand what is going on, it's ok to just sit one out, bud.

i was agreeing with you
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2012, 08:23:27 PM
amazing that we matched their efficiency in the second half. Even with our insane OR%.

 :facepalm:

when you don't understand what is going on, it's ok to just sit one out, bud.

i was agreeing with you

:cheers: that's twice tonight
Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: wabash909 on January 14, 2012, 08:26:08 PM
Our TO%s are getting very worrisome.

yes.

If we are going to kick the ball all over the gym I'd much rather see our freshman point guard do it instead of a group of tweeners.

This. The point was made in the first half.

The point was made in the first 8 minutes.


Title: Re: Terrible (advanced stats)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 14, 2012, 08:49:45 PM
Another interesting advanced stat:

Offensive rebounds per game: 5000
Offensive rebounds that could be easy put backs that actually find their way into the basket: 0.75/game
Offensive rebounds per game that Jamar blindly flings toward the rim: 12

Has rebounding ever done less to help a team be successful in history?

 :chainsaw: