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Title: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 11, 2012, 04:48:13 PM
There were 3 pretty bad spurts we had in this game.  And they seem to come right after our 3 spurts that were really really good

Good 1 =   With Baylor up 7-6, we go on a 15-4 run to take that 21-11 lead with ten minutes in the 1st half
Good 2 =   Scored last 6 pts of the half, then scored 11 of first 15 pts to start the 2nd.   A 17-4 run to build the lead back up to 9 pts
Good 3 =   down 60-52, we outscore BU 19-7 over 6 minutes to take that 71-67 lead with four minutes to play

Bad 1 =  8 minute stretch (10 to 2 minute mark) in 1st half, we turned the ball over 8 times and got only 4 pts... BU went on 18-4 run
Bad 2 =  5 minute stretch (17 to 12 min mark) in 2nd, we turned the ball over 7 times and BU went on 20-4 run
Bad 3 =  Up 71-67, we turned ball over 4 times in our next 6 possessions and then failed to get a shot off final possession.

**  What is extremely ugly about our Bad 3 stretches =  We had 19 of our 20 TOs in there.   And those 3 poor periods of play made up about 16 minutes.   Its not good to have 19 TOs in a game.... much less when you can calculate ===== 3 bad stretches --16 minutes -- 19 TOs --10 pts scored

** Another frustrating find is this =  Yes BB is a game of runs and mini-runs.  However, our 3 good runs we put on Baylor totaled up being 51-15 and those runs consisted of about 16 minutes.  We will probably win 99% of the time we make 3 solid runs and are +36 on them

**  Shows just how inconsistent our play was last night.     But at the same time we shot 50%, were 18-23 FT
But we just can't get around the fact that when we were BAD.... we were really really BAD!
16 minutes = 19TOs 10 pts
The other 24 minutes of the game = 63 pts 1 TO.
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: Fuktard on January 11, 2012, 05:15:26 PM
that is incredible.  very eye opening.  i just can't believe some of those numbers.   very interesting
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: steve dave on January 11, 2012, 05:39:01 PM
good post pp
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: Kat Kid on January 11, 2012, 05:58:04 PM
great post.  This felt like a game of runs, but very nice work piecing it together.  Also, great word choice.  "Spurts."
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 11, 2012, 06:32:58 PM
Enjoyed reading that.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 11, 2012, 07:38:52 PM
Obviously when you are struggling to score the ball or your opponent is on a run...... there is probably a good possibility that you are turning the ball over more than ave. during that run.   Just found it really STRANGE that all of our turnovers where in those 3 bad stretches.    

We shot 50% for the game. I did not look to see what our FG% was during the GOOD and the BAD.   I would not be surprised if there was not a big difference.  I meen when you turn the ball over 19 times in those 16 minutes.... that is a lot of possesions we did not get a shot off.   Maybe i will calculate it and see.

EDIT =  OK so i went and checked and during those 3 bad runs we were 3-11 FG and 4-5 FT.   Not horrible,  until you figure we only got that many shots off in 16 minutes of play.   19 TOs, 11 FGA, ohhh thats depressing.   
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: SwiftCat on January 11, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
These numbers don't surprise me in the least. Good write up though, was interesting.

Do you by chance know how the zone played into all of this? For both us and them.
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: gatoveintisiete on January 11, 2012, 10:16:33 PM
My God that was alot of work, can you just take over tortilla's deal?
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: fatty fat fat on January 12, 2012, 02:44:35 AM
My God that was alot of work, can you just take over tortilla's deal?

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: kso_FAN on January 12, 2012, 07:36:06 AM
Excellent stuff.
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: Trim on January 12, 2012, 07:44:55 AM
Forced sandstorms killed us.
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: pissclams on January 12, 2012, 08:05:55 AM
Forced sandstorms killed us.

funny you say that, i noticed the same thing. 
its' like the director of sandstorm saw the purple palace filled with polite, well-mannered, stupid, tired townies, and decided he was going to sandstorm the crap out of the crowd in an effort to make them less polite, well-mannered, stupid, and tired.

hmm.  maybe curtis "kush" kitchen was right.
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 12, 2012, 08:21:31 AM
Why did Drew even think about going zone . . . K-State is always a complete cluster on offense against an athletic man-to-man defense.



Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: pissclams on January 12, 2012, 09:05:36 AM
i think what you're asking us is, "why is scott drew, scott drew?" 

well dax, it's a mystery. broken into a jigsaw puzzle. wrapped in a conundrum.  hidden in a chinese box. a riddle.
Title: Re: Good spurts and the bad spurts vs Baylor
Post by: kitten_mittons on January 12, 2012, 09:58:56 AM
Why did Drew even think about going zone . . . K-State is always a complete cluster on offense against an athletic man-to-man defense.




If they played Man the entire game, their whole team would have fouled out before the under 12 TO in the 2nd half.