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Title: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2012, 09:42:54 PM
WVU you had JO on the wrong guy.  Probably shouldn't have been in the game at that point.

KU you called a crap zone when man was getting great ball pressure, turn overs and fast break points.

Baylor under 3 minutes there were multiple possessions where rodney wasn't the play to man.  Angel had no business being in the second half outside of one shot.  He claims rodney was the go to guy for the last play but he couldn't get the ball.

Worst of all yet again, you, Frank FAIL to call plays to exploit the other teams's star players being in foul trouble.  With so many charge calls tonight it's absolutely ridiculous you didn't attack any of the 4 players on the court with 4 fouls.

edit: Phone typing and I missed the K in frank.
Title: Re: sorry Fran, all 3 are on you
Post by: j-dub on January 10, 2012, 09:44:10 PM
ednksu post
Title: Re: sorry Fran, all 3 are on you
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
WVU you had JO on the wrong guy.  Probably shouldn't have been in the game at that point.

KU you called a crap zone when man was getting great ball pressure, turn overs and fast break points.

Baylor under 3 minutes there were multiple possessions where rodney wasn't the play to man.  Angel had no business being in the second half outside of one shot.  He claims rodney was the go to guy for the last play but he couldn't get the ball.

Worst of all yet again, you, Frank FAIL to call plays to exploit the other teams's star players being in foul trouble.  With so many charge calls tonight it's absolutely ridiculous you didn't attack any of the 4 players on the court with 4 fouls.

Yeah, the refs calling a bunch of charges is a reason not to attack, but okay.
Title: Re: sorry Fran, all 3 are on you
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
WVU you had JO on the wrong guy.  Probably shouldn't have been in the game at that point.

KU you called a crap zone when man was getting great ball pressure, turn overs and fast break points.

Baylor under 3 minutes there were multiple possessions where rodney wasn't the play to man.  Angel had no business being in the second half outside of one shot.  He claims rodney was the go to guy for the last play but he couldn't get the ball.

Worst of all yet again, you, Frank FAIL to call plays to exploit the other teams's star players being in foul trouble.  With so many charge calls tonight it's absolutely ridiculous you didn't attack any of the 4 players on the court with 4 fouls.

Yeah, the refs calling a bunch of charges is a reason not to attack, but okay.
I felt like the refs were very favorable to us attacking the rim.  Aside from Rodney's one charge in the 2nd half how many did they call against us?  Rodney was getting to the rim at will when the play was called for him.
Title: Re: sorry Fran, all 3 are on you
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 10, 2012, 09:48:27 PM
WVU you had JO on the wrong guy.  Probably shouldn't have been in the game at that point.

KU you called a crap zone when man was getting great ball pressure, turn overs and fast break points.

Baylor under 3 minutes there were multiple possessions where rodney wasn't the play to man.  Angel had no business being in the second half outside of one shot.  He claims rodney was the go to guy for the last play but he couldn't get the ball.

Worst of all yet again, you, Frank FAIL to call plays to exploit the other teams's star players being in foul trouble.  With so many charge calls tonight it's absolutely ridiculous you didn't attack any of the 4 players on the court with 4 fouls.

Yeah, the refs calling a bunch of charges is a reason not to attack, but okay.
I felt like the refs were very favorable to us attacking the rim.  Aside from Rodney's one charge in the 2nd half how many did they call against us?  Rodney was getting to the rim at will when the play was called for him.

How many should they have called on us? Baylor was charging into us like a bunch of jackasses. The refs simply made the correct call in those cases. They weren't just giving us calls because they don't like Baylor or something.
Title: Re: sorry Fran, all 3 are on you
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2012, 09:50:55 PM
WVU you had JO on the wrong guy.  Probably shouldn't have been in the game at that point.

KU you called a crap zone when man was getting great ball pressure, turn overs and fast break points.

Baylor under 3 minutes there were multiple possessions where rodney wasn't the play to man.  Angel had no business being in the second half outside of one shot.  He claims rodney was the go to guy for the last play but he couldn't get the ball.

Worst of all yet again, you, Frank FAIL to call plays to exploit the other teams's star players being in foul trouble.  With so many charge calls tonight it's absolutely ridiculous you didn't attack any of the 4 players on the court with 4 fouls.

Yeah, the refs calling a bunch of charges is a reason not to attack, but okay.
I felt like the refs were very favorable to us attacking the rim.  Aside from Rodney's one charge in the 2nd half how many did they call against us?  Rodney was getting to the rim at will when the play was called for him.

How many should they have called on us? Baylor was charging into us like a bunch of jackasses. The refs simply made the correct call in those cases. They weren't just giving us calls because they don't like Baylor or something.
Really not sure where we are missing this connection.

Baylor was charging a lot.  We were not.  They had lots of players with 4 fouls.  All night we were getting fair calls.  We didn't drive at their players with 4 fouls calls.
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 10, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
ednksu post
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2012, 09:55:22 PM
ednksu post
glad to see my nut riders bring the excellent analysis to refute my posts. nice work, just agree that I'm right yet again.
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 10, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
what was the point of this thread? besides a LOOK AT ME thread...
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: j-dub on January 10, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
what was the point of this thread? besides a LOOK AT ME thread...

his "the 0 will not hang from the rafters" 2012 moment. 
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2012, 09:59:22 PM
what was the point of this thread? besides a LOOK AT ME thread...
Honestly I would love for someone to shut me up, especially with the 4 fouls, no attack Frank method.  I'm sick of seeing another team's best players stay in a game for no other reason than Frank not exploiting it.
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: stunted on January 10, 2012, 10:07:54 PM
Its not the result, it is the process.
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2012, 10:09:24 PM
Its not the result, it is the process.
am I out of line by saying the process has the same problems year in year out?
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: j-dub on January 10, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
Its not the result, it is the process.
am I out of line by saying the process has the same problems year in year out?

am i out of line by saying your bbsing process (rash, irrational overreaction) has the same problems year in year out?
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: ednksu on January 10, 2012, 10:17:19 PM
Its not the result, it is the process.
am I out of line by saying the process has the same problems year in year out?

am i out of line by saying your bbsing process (rash, irrational overreaction) has the same problems year in year out?
How is anything I've said in this thread been rash or the result of overreaction?  I gave multiple examples of systematic failure.  All however are easily correctable.
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: j-dub on January 10, 2012, 10:26:25 PM
Its not the result, it is the process.
am I out of line by saying the process has the same problems year in year out?

am i out of line by saying your bbsing process (rash, irrational overreaction) has the same problems year in year out?
How is anything I've said in this thread been rash or the result of overreaction?  I gave multiple examples of systematic failure.  All however are easily correctable.

yeah. that's what ya did.  :lol:
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: EMAWzified on January 10, 2012, 10:42:59 PM
Frank had them so prepared for the zone it backfired. And Baylor left a better team with a new defense, which sucks.
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: michigancat on January 11, 2012, 12:41:01 AM
SORRY, FRANK
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2012, 01:56:31 AM
Its not the result, it is the process.
am I out of line by saying the process has the same problems year in year out?

am i out of line by saying your bbsing process (rash, irrational overreaction) has the same problems year in year out?
How is anything I've said in this thread been rash or the result of overreaction?  I gave multiple examples of systematic failure.  All however are easily correctable really poor, really wrong observations that showcase my limited basketball "knowledge."
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: mcmwcat on January 11, 2012, 08:08:27 AM
 :zzz:
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 11, 2012, 09:14:07 AM
Once again, another game with Frank where we a complate disaster on the offensive end of the floor against a long, athletic team . . . during critical segments of the game.

Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: ednksu on January 11, 2012, 01:28:08 PM
Its not the result, it is the process.
am I out of line by saying the process has the same problems year in year out?

am i out of line by saying your bbsing process (rash, irrational overreaction) has the same problems year in year out?
How is anything I've said in this thread been rash or the result of overreaction?  I gave multiple examples of systematic failure.  All however are easily correctable really poor, really wrong observations that showcase my limited basketball "knowledge."

ahh the last of the nut riders.  Glad to see you made it to the party even though you were late.  Why don't you post how I'm wrong so I can clown suit you again. 
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 11, 2012, 09:40:46 PM
Once again, another game with Frank where we a complate disaster on the offensive end of the floor against a long, athletic team . . . during critical segments of the game.



I thought we were pretty good on offense and a complete disaster on defense.
Title: Re: sorry Frank, all 3 are on you
Post by: kso_FAN on January 13, 2012, 08:53:52 AM
Once again, another game with Frank where we a complate disaster on the offensive end of the floor against a long, athletic team . . . during critical segments of the game.



I thought we were pretty good on offense and a complete disaster on defense.

2nd half defense AND 2nd half TOs were terrible. Its hard for me to decide which was worse, both were really, really bad.

When we didn't turn the ball over our offense was really good in the 2nd half though, but not turning it over is kind of important on offense.