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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: skycat on January 02, 2012, 01:50:34 PM
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This is a serious poll so please vote for the team you truly feel is the most elite of the elite. Thx.
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I think there is one blue, blue, bluest of the blueblood programs being left off that list.
UCLA.
Yeah it has been a long time since their last nat'l championship but they have the most of any, so they can't be left out of a blue blood discussion. Otherwise, your list pretty much covers all the true blue blood programs.
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There's another one you forgot.
UCONN. 3 NC's in how many years? They need to be on the list.
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I think there is one blue, blue, bluest of the blueblood programs being left off that list.
UCLA.
Yeah it has been a long time since their last nat'l championship but they have the most of any, so they can't be left out of a blue blood discussion. Otherwise, your list pretty much covers all the true blue blood programs.
Yes, I considered UCLA, but left them off the list because it's been so long since they've had sustained national success.
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UCLA and Indiana should be on any list.
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UCLA and Indiana should be on any list.
Also considered Indiana, left them off for the same reason as UCLA. Indiana has really recaptured some of their former glory this year, and in a couple years could be worthy of inclusion. This poll places a premium on recent, sustained national-level success.
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Ooops. Also forgot.....
University of Florida.
Singlehandedly infused w/ blue blood by Billy Donovan's 2 consecutive natty championships. OK. Think the list is done now....
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There's another one you forgot.
UCONN. 3 NC's in how many years? They need to be on the list.
Uconn instead of Ohio St. and you've got a perfect list of recent sustained national success.
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There's another one you forgot.
UCONN. 3 NC's in how many years? They need to be on the list.
Uconn instead of Ohio St. and you've got a perfect list of recent sustained national success.
You guys are right, and I have added Uconn. Ohio State stays though.
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Ooops. Also forgot.....
University of Florida.
Singlehandedly infused w/ blue blood by Billy Donovan's 2 consecutive natty championships. OK. Think the list is done now....
I dunno, that was like five years ago. They had a nice run last year but I'm not seeing the kind of sustained national success that defines a truly elite program.
Also, was I wrong to include Ohio State? Having second thoughts. Back-to-back Sweet Sixteens, their '07 national title appearance and this year's clearly elite team (as long as Sullinger isn't injured) are pretty convincing. :dunno:
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Ooops. Also forgot.....
University of Florida.
Singlehandedly infused w/ blue blood by Billy Donovan's 2 consecutive natty championships. OK. Think the list is done now....
I dunno, that was like five years ago. They had a nice run last year but I'm not seeing the kind of sustained national success that defines a truly elite program.
Also, was I wrong to include Ohio State? Having second thoughts. Back-to-back Sweet Sixteens, their '07 national title appearance and this year's clearly elite team (as long as Sullinger isn't injured) are pretty convincing. :dunno:
I don't feel strongly about. UF. I can take them or I can leave them for the sake of our discussion.
I just wanted to be certain we weren't excluding any possible members of the blue-blood society.
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Indiana
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Ooops. Also forgot.....
University of Florida.
Singlehandedly infused w/ blue blood by Billy Donovan's 2 consecutive natty championships. OK. Think the list is done now....
I dunno, that was like five years ago. They had a nice run last year but I'm not seeing the kind of sustained national success that defines a truly elite program.
Also, was I wrong to include Ohio State? Having second thoughts. Back-to-back Sweet Sixteens, their '07 national title appearance and this year's clearly elite team (as long as Sullinger isn't injured) are pretty convincing. :dunno:
I don't feel strongly about. UF. I can take them or I can leave them for the sake of our discussion.
I just wanted to be certain we weren't excluding any possible members of the blue-blood society.
If the early results are any indication, it's a three-way race anyway. Might be a photo finish between Duke, UK and UNC. When you think about it, no one comes close to those programs' stratospheric level of success. Not even close, and they're deluded if they claim otherwise.
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I still think there has been one team overlooked, one that may not win the poll, but still should be considered, after all they do have 2 Helms titles in addition to the tournament they won this century....
that team is Syracuse.
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You could make a strong argument for UCLA, but Indiana is blueblood elite. Five national titles (legit NCAA ones) and 20 Big 10 championships. Yeah, they went through a down cycle. But they're back. Will be top-5 for the next decade.
UConn and Duke have really only experienced elite-like success under one coach.
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Indiana, Kentucky, UNC and UCLA are without a doubt the 4 best. After that it's clearly Duke, MSU, Uconn Syracuse and KU?
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Indiana, Kentucky, UNC and UCLA are without a doubt the 4 best. After that it's clearly Duke, MSU, Uconn Syracuse and KU?
:facepalm:
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Indiana, Kentucky, UNC and UCLA are without a doubt the 4 best. After that it's clearly Duke, MSU, Uconn Syracuse and KU?
You are consistently the worst poster on the board. Despite heavy competition, you always find a way to rise to the top. Congrats!
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Indiana, Kentucky, UNC and UCLA are without a doubt the 4 best. After that it's clearly Duke, MSU, Uconn Syracuse and KU?
You are consistently the worst poster on the board. Despite heavy competition, you always find a way to rise to the top. Congrats!
Yeah, you are just a disaster.
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Indiana, Kentucky, UNC and UCLA are without a doubt the 4 best. After that it's clearly Duke, MSU, Uconn Syracuse and KU?
You are consistently the worst poster on the board. Despite heavy competition, you always find a way to rise to the top. Congrats!
He is a sock. I can't believe you guys haven't realized that.
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I still think there has been one team overlooked, one that may not win the poll, but still should be considered, after all they do have 2 Helms titles in addition to the tournament they won this century....
that team is Syracuse.
:lol:
Helms titles. Good one. :lol:
But, no.
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Indiana, Kentucky, UNC and UCLA are without a doubt the 4 best. After that it's clearly Duke, MSU, Uconn Syracuse and KU?
goodbye.
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where's KU? i'd vote for them if they were in fwiw.
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where's KU? i'd vote for them if they were in fwiw.
U serious? KU is like Syracuse except Syracuse didn't lose to four mediocre mid-majors in the span of seven NCAAs. That's not success, that's failure. Their last great coach (all-time greatest, IMHO) is now UNC's coach, so I'd suggest you vote for them instead.
Anyway, the results speak for themselves. UK, UNC and Duke are far and away the most elite college basketball programs, with Duke leading the way. MSU, UConn and Ohio State are close but still not in the upper echelon. Everyone else is playing catch up.
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remove Ohio St and put KU in there.
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remove Ohio St and put KU in there.
Squawk outed
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Indiana is also going to be back on that list shortly.
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Indiana is also going to be back on that list shortly.
Several of the teams mentioned ITT could soon be considered elite if they keep it up. It will come down to things like back-to-back-to-back-to-back Sweet Sixteens or better, consistently winning NCAA games they're supposed to win, consistent success in landing elite recruits, financial health of the athletic dept., etc.
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
there are no words...
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Addition by subtraction.
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
Aside from how self-evidently stupid this is, there is also the fact that KU is in decline and K-State is on the rise, in all areas. Converts are always the most zealous believers, so I guess it will be a while before the cognitive dissonance sets in.
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what about uconn women? are they a worthy candidate. ill listen off the air
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what about uconn women? are they a worthy candidate. ill listen off the air
I think it's understood that this is a men's bball poll. Obviously they're one of the bluest of the bluebloods for women's bball.
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what about uconn women? are they a worthy candidate. ill listen off the air
I think it's understood that this is a men's bball poll. Obviously they're one of the bluest of the bluebloods for women's bball.
good point. i just always see them on all the lists with the espying and award shows and what not.
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
This is an example of how not to TSC.
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the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fitem.shopping.c.yimg.jp%2Fi%2Fd%2Fibepara_y232-09-6060_1&hash=096befb758b92f576a8482b66c82202f43e66288) :dunno:
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
this guy is a complete needle dick.
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Man, can you imagine being Louisville or NC State? Knowing your rivals are national powerhouses UK and UNC (respectively)? That would be something.
Our rival probably looks at us with similar levels of fear and awe. They can't seem to beat us, either here or in Austin.
Anyway, looks like the voters have chosen Duke as the most elite college basketball program. Congrats Duke, bluest of the bluebloods.
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
this guy is a complete needle dick.
Pretty standard looking ku fan.
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
this guy is a complete needle dick.
Pretty standard looking ku fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia4.onsugar.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F12%2F52%2F5%2F192%2F1922398%2F1de1e9f9ff1999ec_136250386.preview%2Fi%2FJason-Sudeikis-Olivia-Wilde-Dating-Pictures.jpg&hash=1a535a460802a5aaad4dfb73967d2e4053f79b46)
:love:
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia4.onsugar.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F12%2F52%2F5%2F192%2F1922398%2F1de1e9f9ff1999ec_136250386.preview%2Fi%2FJason-Sudeikis-Olivia-Wilde-Dating-Pictures.jpg&hash=1a535a460802a5aaad4dfb73967d2e4053f79b46)
:love:
that top row is a whole lot of whoof beems. weird pic
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Remind me again, when did Jason Sudeikis graduate from KU?
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Remind me again, when did Jason Sudeikis graduate from KU?
also, why do they make their "celebrity" fans sit around such ugly people?
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not gonna lie, i'm pretty jealous of beems and ku for having that chick attend a game.
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Remind me again, when did Jason Sudeikis graduate from KU?
Earned a basketball scholarship to Fort Scott Community College but was kicked off the team because of poor grades.
:lol:
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Who cares if Jason Sutherland went to a ku game over Christmas break? big deal
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not gonna lie, i'm pretty jealous of beems and ku for having that chick attend a game.
she is super good looking.
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not gonna lie, i'm pretty jealous of beems and ku for having that chick attend a game.
she is super good looking.
I tweeted at her about my disappointment. I kinda like Olivia Wilde a lot.
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
this guy is a complete needle dick.
Pretty standard looking ku fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_u1-LKj32zdU%2FSUuVZfyiYQI%2FAAAAAAAAAHQ%2FYQ6SrTgghl4%2FS240%2FKU%2BHead%2Bto%2Btoe.jpg&hash=7b9b01b705a420f70b6bd4322155a7d2996caaa0)
http://ksugrad4ku.blogspot.com/ (http://ksugrad4ku.blogspot.com/)
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[email protected]
Why the guy would post that on his blog is baffling. Clearly an indictment on Kansas State and the College of Business that he was able to graduate being a complete moron and all.
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I want to email him and congratulate him on beating cancer. You don't read about that enough these days. :emawkid:
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
this guy is a complete needle dick.
Pretty standard looking ku fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia4.onsugar.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F12%2F52%2F5%2F192%2F1922398%2F1de1e9f9ff1999ec_136250386.preview%2Fi%2FJason-Sudeikis-Olivia-Wilde-Dating-Pictures.jpg&hash=1a535a460802a5aaad4dfb73967d2e4053f79b46)
:love:
question: what do these three KU fans have in common? (sudeikis, wilde, needledick)
answer: none have set foot in a classroom in lawrentucky
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Making the switch?
Here’s some advice from Terry Dahl for any other Wildcats looking to join Jayhawk Nation:
Be open and up-front about it. Dahl sent an email to family and friends, and he encourages others not to be shy coming out of the purple closet. “It feels better when you get it off your chest,” he says.
Fair-weather fandom? Forget it. “I’m totally against that type of behavior. You have to be on board: All KU, or all K-State. One way or the other. It’s weak, in my own mind, to root for KU in basketball and K-State in football.”
Shed the purple fashion — the T-shirts, the ’Cat paws and everything else. “I got rid of it. There isn’t anything purple in my house. If somebody’s truly a KU fan or a K-State fan, you shouldn’t have clothing from the other school.”
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2011%2F12%2F30%2Fksu_ku_fan_01_t180.jpg%3F370a03faaa4bde2115f371a02430eb3e6a451be5&hash=53309e23664212998129d5fcaaa918f28edc2d10)
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/wildcat-sees-light-renounces-all-things-purple-sta/
this guy is a complete needle dick.
Pretty standard looking ku fan.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia4.onsugar.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F12%2F52%2F5%2F192%2F1922398%2F1de1e9f9ff1999ec_136250386.preview%2Fi%2FJason-Sudeikis-Olivia-Wilde-Dating-Pictures.jpg&hash=1a535a460802a5aaad4dfb73967d2e4053f79b46)
:love:
question: what do these three KU fans have in common? (sudeikis, wilde, needledick)
answer: none have set foot in a classroom in lawrentucky
the sine qua non of a true Jayhawk fanatic
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia4.onsugar.com%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F12%2F52%2F5%2F192%2F1922398%2F1de1e9f9ff1999ec_136250386.preview%2Fi%2FJason-Sudeikis-Olivia-Wilde-Dating-Pictures.jpg&hash=1a535a460802a5aaad4dfb73967d2e4053f79b46)
:love:
:love: Olivia Wilde
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Why the guy would post that on his blog is baffling. Clearly an indictment on Kansas State and the College of Business that he was able to graduate being a complete moron and all.
I think there is a relatively strong association between the two terms in bold above.
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It's always refreshing to read another envy thread.