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Title: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on March 06, 2010, 03:54:34 PM
Assuming we win and cu finishes off tech.

If texas wins:

cu  ku
tt
tex  mu
nu

osu  KSU
ou

baylor  aTm
isu


If baylor wins:


cu  ku
tt

mu  aTm
nu

osu  KSU
ou

tex  baylor
isu

So either way, we have to play one of the okies, probably okie lite.  Second game will either be baylor, tex, or atm.  Funny that from their loss today, mizzou might fall from the potential #2 to having no bye.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: hemmy on March 06, 2010, 04:01:40 PM
K-Lite!!! :flush:
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: wes mantooth on March 06, 2010, 04:33:44 PM
Phillips 66 guy, name escapes me, just said Baylor could be the 2 seed if we lose tonight.   :nono:
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 06, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
Phillips 66 guy, name escapes me, just said Baylor could be the 2 seed if we lose tonight.   :nono:

I believe he is right
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: wes mantooth on March 06, 2010, 04:41:37 PM
Phillips 66 guy, name escapes me, just said Baylor could be the 2 seed if we lose tonight.   :nono:

I believe he is right

They would have the same record as us, and we beat them.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 06, 2010, 04:43:34 PM
Phillips 66 guy, name escapes me, just said Baylor could be the 2 seed if we lose tonight.   :nono:

I believe he is right

They would have the same record as us, and we beat them.
ah yes, my bad
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: steve dave on March 06, 2010, 04:46:07 PM
We're the two seed bros
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 06, 2010, 04:49:31 PM
Lomers/Baylor =  :frown:
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 06, 2010, 04:55:24 PM
could Texas be the worst team to ever be #1?
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2023, 11:03:47 AM
Beat Huggs and we are the #2 no matter what right?
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: 'taterblast on March 02, 2023, 11:13:57 AM
http://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=mbb
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2023, 11:41:32 AM
I don't really care about 2 or 3 seed, but we really need KU to beat Texas. I don't want any part of TCU in a 4/5 game.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2023, 11:51:06 AM
http://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=mbb

that was my source, I thought I went through all the options.

I don't want the night game, interferes with my post-Phillips plans.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: konofo on March 02, 2023, 12:35:34 PM
I don't really care about 2 or 3 seed, but we really need KU to beat Texas. I don't want any part of TCU in a 4/5 game.
If we handle our business, we don't need crap.

kono
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2023, 01:05:18 PM
I don't really care about 2 or 3 seed, but we really need KU to beat Texas. I don't want any part of TCU in a 4/5 game.
If we handle our business, we don't need crap.

kono

That's just it, I think we're running into the same buzzsaw on Saturday that OU did last night. Senior night and a win for WVU locks them into the tournament. I have less confidence about winning on Saturday than I do any game between now and the elite 8.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: konofo on March 02, 2023, 01:26:50 PM
That's just it, I think we're running into the same buzzsaw on Saturday that OU did last night. Senior night and a win for WVU locks them into the tournament. I have less confidence about winning on Saturday than I do any game between now and the elite 8.
I think WVU is at least in the play-in round regardless, but there's no way they're allowing themselves to believe that.  Still, I'm cautiously optimistic about our chances.

Alternatively, an ISU win @Baylor in the early game Saturday would secure a top 3 seed for us.  ISU could wind up needing that result to avoid playing (gasp) a Wednesday game, which would be quite a shameful end to their season.

kono
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: nicname on March 02, 2023, 01:27:05 PM
I don't really care about 2 or 3 seed, but we really need KU to beat Texas. I don't want any part of TCU in a 4/5 game.
If we handle our business, we don't need crap.

kono

That's just it, I think we're running into the same buzzsaw on Saturday that OU did last night. Senior night and a win for WVU locks them into the tournament. I have less confidence about winning on Saturday than I do any game between now and the elite 8.

Bob also gets 4 days to focus on nothing but KSU.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2023, 01:29:53 PM
I don't really care about 2 or 3 seed, but we really need KU to beat Texas. I don't want any part of TCU in a 4/5 game.
If we handle our business, we don't need crap.

kono

That's just it, I think we're running into the same buzzsaw on Saturday that OU did last night. Senior night and a win for WVU locks them into the tournament. I have less confidence about winning on Saturday than I do any game between now and the elite 8.

Bob also gets 4 days to focus on nothing but KSU.

Yeah, but he's only sober for a few hours of each of those days.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: BostonPancake on March 02, 2023, 04:59:48 PM
I don't really care about 2 or 3 seed, but we really need KU to beat Texas. I don't want any part of TCU in a 4/5 game.

Fact. 

Is it wrong for me to want to play ISU?  Usually this is their super bowl, but they look like crap and with Grill being dismissed I have to think they are spiraling downward.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: wetwillie on March 02, 2023, 05:15:28 PM
I expect a massive foul fest in Morgantown and a lot of home cooking. Wouldn’t be surprised if Tang gets ejected.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Pete on March 02, 2023, 05:27:06 PM
I expect a massive foul fest in Morgantown and a lot of home cooking. Wouldn’t be surprised if Tang gets ejected.

I hope he throws a chair.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: kim carnes on March 02, 2023, 06:53:09 PM
Hopefully we lose our first game so we can focus on the tourney that actually matters
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2023, 07:04:42 PM
I don't really care about 2 or 3 seed, but we really need KU to beat Texas. I don't want any part of TCU in a 4/5 game.

Fact. 

Is it wrong for me to want to play ISU?  Usually this is their super bowl, but they look like crap and with Grill being dismissed I have to think they are spiraling downward.

I just need them there for ticket sales.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: MakeItRain on March 02, 2023, 08:00:22 PM
I don't really care about 2 or 3 seed, but we really need KU to beat Texas. I don't want any part of TCU in a 4/5 game.

Fact. 

Is it wrong for me to want to play ISU?  Usually this is their super bowl, but they look like crap and with Grill being dismissed I have to think they are spiraling downward.

No it's not wrong because they might be the easiest matchup right now, especially when they're not in Hilton.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: mocat on March 02, 2023, 08:18:48 PM
Man kenpom really pegged us at 11-7 all season long huh? That's weird
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: wetwillie on March 02, 2023, 08:52:52 PM
Had a big tie for the ‘ship at 12-6 and mumped that one up
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: konofo on March 04, 2023, 12:52:41 PM
Alternatively, an ISU win @Baylor in the early game Saturday would secure a top 3 seed for us.  ISU could wind up needing that result to avoid playing (gasp) a Wednesday game, which would be quite a shameful end to their season.
Seems we can put that 4-seed in the rearview mirror.  Maybe this Grill situation was addition by subtraction?

kono
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: cfbandyman on March 04, 2023, 01:13:28 PM
Yeah, Wyattvision confirmed we are either the 2 or the 3 now
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: BostonPancake on March 04, 2023, 03:27:43 PM
Damnit.  If KU doesn’t beat texas we are gonna be saddled with TCU.   :bang:
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 04, 2023, 03:56:24 PM
Damnit.  If KU doesn’t beat texas we are gonna be saddled with TCU.   :bang:
TCU with a gimpy Lampkin shouldn't beat us.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 04, 2023, 05:27:42 PM
This is why I never root for the rough ridin' POS squawks.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2023, 06:03:58 PM
when do we play
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Tobias on March 04, 2023, 06:05:08 PM
Thurs night 830 I think
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Phil Titola on March 04, 2023, 06:25:59 PM
Thurs night 830 I think

confirmed
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 04, 2023, 06:38:10 PM
Thurs night 830 I think

confirmed

There’s “this game is on too late” and then there’s this game’s tip time
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 04, 2023, 07:30:59 PM
So the latest game of the night. That's not good in a 3-day tourney.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: CHONGS on March 04, 2023, 07:31:42 PM
It's fine. 
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: MakeItRain on March 04, 2023, 08:06:02 PM
lol, what in the world?
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2023, 08:35:25 PM
tickets for the b12 are high dollar, gonna watch on tv I guess
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: BostonPancake on March 04, 2023, 08:38:26 PM
tickets for the b12 are high dollar, gonna watch on tv I guess

Keep checking during the week.  I bet they come down for our session.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2023, 08:45:44 PM
here we go

https://twitter.com/jacobs71/status/1632195538778038273?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 05, 2023, 01:52:04 PM
here we go

https://twitter.com/jacobs71/status/1632195538778038273?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA

Not gEing here, can someone explain to me why the Phillips isn’t just a meaningless exhibition like they say bowl games are? Shouldn’t the Cats just keep their chowder dry for the Tour-na-ment?

Have any advanced stats types done research on correlation between conference tournament success and Big Dance success (other than good teams are likely to win a lot in both)
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: wetwillie on March 05, 2023, 02:12:51 PM
Conference tournament winners get an autobid so there is something to play for typically for several teams that wouldn’t make it otherwise.  Could potentially move you up a seed line if you win 3 in a row.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 05, 2023, 02:15:30 PM
here we go

https://twitter.com/jacobs71/status/1632195538778038273?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA

Not gEing here, can someone explain to me why the Phillips isn’t just a meaningless exhibition like they say bowl games are? Shouldn’t the Cats just keep their chowder dry for the Tour-na-ment?

Have any advanced stats types done research on correlation between conference tournament success and Big Dance success (other than good teams are likely to win a lot in both)

I get why some teams don't mind not playing the 3rd day, but I hate thinking of it as a meaningless exhibition.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: MakeItRain on March 05, 2023, 02:17:14 PM
The correlation is that most national champions are conference champions because teams good enough to win the national championship are good enough to win a conference tournament.

The big 12 championship game is on a Saturday night, the teams playing in it will either get 4 or 5 days rest. I'm 250 pounds and nearly 47 years old, I could climb a goddamned mountain with 4 days rest.

It's not an exhibition to us because we've barely won dick in our lifetimes, I'll be damned if I'm gonna too cool for school a trophy I've never seen us win.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 05, 2023, 02:26:05 PM
That's the correct take. We've only played in 2 Phillips Championships ever and have won it 0 times.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: cfbandyman on March 05, 2023, 02:41:41 PM
here we go

https://twitter.com/jacobs71/status/1632195538778038273?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA

Not gEing here, can someone explain to me why the Phillips isn’t just a meaningless exhibition like they say bowl games are? Shouldn’t the Cats just keep their chowder dry for the Tour-na-ment?

Have any advanced stats types done research on correlation between conference tournament success and Big Dance success (other than good teams are likely to win a lot in both)

I get why some teams don't mind not playing the 3rd day, but I hate thinking of it as a meaningless exhibition.

Especially if you're a team that needs it to get into the tourny.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2023, 02:41:46 PM


The correlation is that most national champions are conference champions because teams good enough to win the national championship are good enough to win a conference tournament.

The big 12 championship game is on a Saturday night, the teams playing in it will either get 4 or 5 days rest. I'm 250 pounds and nearly 47 years old, I could climb a goddamned mountain with 4 days rest.

It's not an exhibition to us because we've barely won dick in our lifetimes, I'll be damned if I'm gonna too cool for school a trophy I've never seen us win.

Agreed but at the same time it doesn't matter if we get bounced in Thursday. Upside only
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 05, 2023, 05:00:19 PM
2 vs 3 matters somewhat to me
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 05, 2023, 07:34:52 PM
The correlation is that most national champions are conference champions because teams good enough to win the national championship are good enough to win a conference tournament.

The big 12 championship game is on a Saturday night, the teams playing in it will either get 4 or 5 days rest. I'm 250 pounds and nearly 47 years old, I could climb a goddamned mountain with 4 days rest.

It's not an exhibition to us because we've barely won dick in our lifetimes, I'll be damned if I'm gonna too cool for school a trophy I've never seen us win.
If you can promise me the Cats will have enough gas in the tank for the NCAA's I will go all in on the Big 12 tournament.

To win the Big 12 tourney, you have to win three games against the level of opponent you would face to make an Elite 8 or even Final 4. Just want the Cats to be fresh and healthy for the next weekend. The postseason is a lot of fun when the Cats are a contender.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: wetwillie on March 05, 2023, 07:41:11 PM
Kemba Walker and UCONN won 5(!) straight Big East games to win their conference tournament and then ran the table as a three seed.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 05, 2023, 08:32:45 PM
Prior to that wasn’t it kind of like a Whole Thing that winning the big East tourney was kind of a kiss of death WRT performance in the ncaa tourney? And there was lots of speculation that the winning team was just exhausted from running the gauntlet
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: cfbandyman on March 05, 2023, 08:53:17 PM
The correlation is that most national champions are conference champions because teams good enough to win the national championship are good enough to win a conference tournament.

The big 12 championship game is on a Saturday night, the teams playing in it will either get 4 or 5 days rest. I'm 250 pounds and nearly 47 years old, I could climb a goddamned mountain with 4 days rest.

It's not an exhibition to us because we've barely won dick in our lifetimes, I'll be damned if I'm gonna too cool for school a trophy I've never seen us win.
If you can promise me the Cats will have enough gas in the tank for the NCAA's I will go all in on the Big 12 tournament.

To win the Big 12 tourney, you have to win three games against the level of opponent you would face to make an Elite 8 or even Final 4. Just want the Cats to be fresh and healthy for the next weekend. The postseason is a lot of fun when the Cats are a contender.

TBH it's really only the first weekend you have to really worry about fatigue from a conference tounry. After that it's a game by game thing.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: sys on March 05, 2023, 11:43:17 PM
can someone explain to me why the Phillips isn’t just a meaningless exhibition like they say bowl games are? Shouldn’t the Cats just keep their chowder dry for the Tour-na-ment?

no good reason to try to win tournament games either, really.  or any games.  dry chowder till you die, like my grandfather always said.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 07, 2023, 01:41:18 PM
No Nights Off:

https://youtu.be/Ox5UIZ0hd9M
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Spracne on March 07, 2023, 01:51:35 PM
Yormack strikes again!
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2023, 02:02:07 PM
No Nights Off:

https://youtu.be/Ox5UIZ0hd9M

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: Winters on March 07, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
A beautiful song
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: cfbandyman on March 07, 2023, 08:03:26 PM
No Nights Off:

https://youtu.be/Ox5UIZ0hd9M

I get it's easy to lol, but given how much every $EC gulps this crap down for football

(https://media.tenor.com/B8dzXWTWyf4AAAAM/referee-ill-allow-it.gif)
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: cfbandyman on March 07, 2023, 08:04:27 PM
That being said, a Big 12 team has to at least make the F4, and/or win the tourny now
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: KITNfury on March 08, 2023, 09:09:00 AM
Option A:  song sucks because I'm old.

Option B: song sucks and I'm old.
Title: Re: Phillips 66 brackets
Post by: KSNimrod on March 08, 2023, 09:34:03 AM
Option A:  song sucks because I'm old.

Option B: song sucks and I'm old.

I too was disappointed as I sat on my porch listening along.  I mean, it's great that Eminem has come out of retirement for this BigXII commercial but I definitely did NOT lose myself in the music... the moment... nor did I want it.  I better let it go.