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Title: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: chum1 on December 24, 2011, 04:02:37 PM
I'm a traditionalist and view the goEMAW scapegoat as the player who goEMAW views to be the biggest liability on the floor.  Based on what I've read, the leading candidate seems to be Southwell.  Is this an accurate assessment?  Are there other candidates to consider?  Is Ojeleye getting a free pass?  If Ojeleye is getting a free pass, why?
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Pendergast on December 24, 2011, 04:15:13 PM
I think Sprads may be a dark horse.  Mcgruds the early leader.  Southy isn't a great scapegoat because not too much is expected of him.  It has to be someone expected to have a significant impact.
Title: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2011, 04:21:33 PM
Those scapegoating shane are retards.  I could get behind the VicGoat, but lack of PT isn't letting me.  Pretty upsetting that there isn't an outward obvious choice.  Probs a bad sign.

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Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: steve dave on December 24, 2011, 04:26:23 PM
Yeah, if OJ gets more minutes he will blow these other candidates out of the water
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 24, 2011, 04:44:04 PM

Tysyn
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: chum1 on December 24, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
So, I guess maybe our depth will prevent Ojeleye from winning the 2011-12 Merriewether Award. 

Ojeleye senior year 4.8 mpg
Merriewether senior year 8.2 mpg
Title: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Kat Kid on December 24, 2011, 07:19:32 PM
Contra chum1's thesis, there is no goEMAW consensus.

Angel scapegoaters:  daxzacker (would be a much funnier sock than sysdax)

Southwell scapegoaters: tortuga, most other morons

Lbbiq scapegoaters: sys, _FAN

Frank scapegoaters: pissclams, dax

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Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: felix rex on December 24, 2011, 08:01:43 PM
Jamar will end up being blamed.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: felix rex on December 24, 2011, 08:04:34 PM
Jamar will end up being blamed.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Panjandrum on December 24, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
Jamar will end up being blamed.

And whoever does should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: CNS on December 24, 2011, 09:41:16 PM
Frank will end up being blamed.  What else will a fanbase do when no obvs answer is staring at their slackjawed fat faces from the court when the fianl scoreboard shows us coming up short?

Anger is confusing enough for the simple.  The first answer is made to be right. 


Man, we really need to have Vic get more PT, or the tide may turn on Frank.

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Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: O-town Kat on December 24, 2011, 10:27:58 PM
Nick Russell
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: kso_FAN on December 24, 2011, 10:33:00 PM
Contra chum1's thesis, there is no goEMAW consensus.

Angel scapegoaters:  daxzacker (would be a much funnier sock than sysdax)

Southwell scapegoaters: tortuga, most other morons

Lbbiq scapegoaters: sys, _FAN

Frank scapegoaters: pissclams, dax

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Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: kougar24 on December 24, 2011, 10:48:37 PM
Contra chum1's thesis, there is no goEMAW consensus.

Angel scapegoaters:  daxzacker (would be a much funnier sock than sysdax)

Southwell scapegoaters: tortuga, most other morons

Lbbiq scapegoaters: sys, _FAN

Frank scapegoaters: pissclams, dax

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Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: cas4ksu on December 24, 2011, 11:48:40 PM
Potuzak for me.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: nicname on December 25, 2011, 03:18:53 AM
I was thinking about this tonight.  I really can't find one.  Super-likable team.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: catzacker on December 25, 2011, 09:23:23 AM
angel was never my scapegoat, frank was.  I extremely dislike Nino.  But he doesn't play enough.  I have hope for him to slide into the goat role next year.  None of these guys can hold a candle to Merrisuck.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ben ji on December 25, 2011, 09:39:41 AM
Irving FTW
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Pete on December 25, 2011, 10:07:13 AM
I nearly lose the gift of sight when OJ enters the game, I am rolling my rough ridin' eyes soooo hard.  I call it "Frank being a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) time."
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: chunkles on December 25, 2011, 11:22:07 AM
what's the statute of limitations on The Hoskins Injury
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: wetwillie on December 25, 2011, 11:49:47 AM
It will be the first person to definitively lose us a close game in conference play. I hope it ends up being jones.
Title: Re: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: CNS on December 25, 2011, 11:58:29 AM
It will be the first person to definitively lose us a close game in conference play. I hope it ends up being jones.

Caveat: if lost due to FT's, it will still be Frank per 'Tuck nation

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Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: SdK on December 25, 2011, 01:22:47 PM
Wally.




I miss Nick.



But Wally.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: jtksu on December 25, 2011, 02:52:43 PM
'Te420k?!
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Cire on December 25, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
Irving FTW
not even close
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: sys on December 25, 2011, 03:46:42 PM
when a new scapegoat rises, he will be known by his acts.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: slimz on December 25, 2011, 04:58:44 PM
Irving FTW
not even close

Irving isn't close to being the scapegoat, or he has a huge lead in the scapegoat standings?
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: kso_FAN on December 25, 2011, 05:03:21 PM
Irving FTW
not even close

Irving isn't close to being the scapegoat, or he has a huge lead in the scapegoat standings?

The 3 Irving hit to put us up by 5 with less than 7 minutes left was huge. That shot alone should eliminate him from anyone's goat list.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Trim on December 25, 2011, 05:07:52 PM
Bill Synder, assuming we drop to 0-2 in the conference due to a lacksluster atmosphere at OOD.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ben ji on December 25, 2011, 05:15:58 PM
Irving FTW
not even close

Irving isn't close to being the scapegoat, or he has a huge lead in the scapegoat standings?

The 3 Irving hit to put us up by 5 with less than 7 minutes left was huge. That shot alone should eliminate him from anyone's goat list.

I actually cringed when he let that go, his offensive game is terrible.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: SdK on December 25, 2011, 05:26:38 PM
Irving FTW
not even close

Irving isn't close to being the scapegoat, or he has a huge lead in the scapegoat standings?

The 3 Irving hit to put us up by 5 with less than 7 minutes left was huge. That shot alone should eliminate him from anyone's goat list.

I actually cringed when he let that go, his offensive game is terrible.

I wouldn't say terrible, but he also never really forces anything. I think he knows his strengths and weaknesses and plays to them well. Won't pass up an open drive or shot, but knows that's what the team needs from him on O: taking open looks as opposed to trying to create or force them. Irving is working out well.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: DQ12 on December 25, 2011, 05:47:56 PM
I love just about everybody.

I used to really not like Shane, but he's started to get it together a little these last few games.  I'm not stubborn and I'm ready to love Shane.  Again.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: CNS on December 25, 2011, 06:00:53 PM
Bill Synder, assuming we drop to 0-2 in the conference due to a lacksluster atmosphere at OOD.

This shouldn't be overlooked.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 25, 2011, 07:53:49 PM
Bill Synder, assuming we drop to 0-2 in the conference due to a lacksluster atmosphere at OOD.

This shouldn't be overlooked.

OB hates bball
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Andy on January 02, 2012, 06:37:53 PM
can't blame irving for not being angel.  

no scapegoats for me so far this year.  been pleased with where everyone is at.  :ksu:
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 02, 2012, 10:29:15 PM
I hate Vic with furious anger. He was the reason we didn't beat Howard by a million points. If you rewatch the game, the moment he gets in is the moment we lose all our momentum. For someone with such a good GPA, he is a complete moron on the basketball court. Too slow to guard the wing...WAY too short to guard the post. Only good for cleaning up the garbage on offense, he even manages to screw that up most of the time. Don't even get me started on his 'outside' game  :chainsaw: Please don't be dissuaded by his lack of minutes. He does more damage while he is in the game than anyone who has ever played for Frank. I hate Vic  :dubious:
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Tobias on January 02, 2012, 10:33:43 PM
I hate Vic with furious anger. He was the reason we didn't beat Howard by a million points. If you rewatch the game, the moment he gets in is the moment we lose all our momentum. For someone with such a good GPA, he is a complete moron on the basketball court. Too slow to guard the wing...WAY too short to guard the post. Only good for cleaning up the garbage on offense, he even manages to screw that up most of the time. Don't even get me started on his 'outside' game  :chainsaw: Please don't be dissuaded by his lack of minutes. He does more damage while he is in the game than anyone who has ever played for Frank. I hate Vic  :dubious:

so is frank or vic your goat?
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 02, 2012, 10:34:56 PM
I hate Vic with furious anger. He was the reason we didn't beat Howard by a million points. If you rewatch the game, the moment he gets in is the moment we lose all our momentum. For someone with such a good GPA, he is a complete moron on the basketball court. Too slow to guard the wing...WAY too short to guard the post. Only good for cleaning up the garbage on offense, he even manages to screw that up most of the time. Don't even get me started on his 'outside' game  :chainsaw: Please don't be dissuaded by his lack of minutes. He does more damage while he is in the game than anyone who has ever played for Frank. I hate Vic  :dubious:

To your last point, you could be right if you go over an average of several appearances.  But no one singlehandedly hurt the program more than Merriwether against X in the Sweet 16.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 02, 2012, 10:38:53 PM
Vic is my GOAT. It hurts too much to hate Frank, plus he's going to be here awhile. I sleep easier blaming it on the shitty player that Frank insists on playing.

Chris did really eff us over that game. But, we won, so all is forgiven (I don't believe fresher legs helped Butler beat us the next game.) Vic on the other hand can't even play good D like Merriworthless could. Vic give us nothing...ever...so much hate :curse:
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: sys on January 02, 2012, 11:31:05 PM
Chris did really eff us over that game. But, we won, so all is forgiven.

kstate beat howard too.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 02, 2012, 11:56:07 PM
Chris did really eff us over that game. But, we won, so all is forgiven.

kstate beat howard too.

Howard was just an anecdote. Xavier is really the only game that Chris really mumped us over. Victor is constantly trying to eff us over, but is so bad that he can't even do that right :shakesfist:
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: SwiftCat on January 03, 2012, 12:05:10 AM
It's very hard for me to portray Vic as a scapegoat. He's a walk-on. I have a hard time blaming a walk on player who gets very few minutes.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 03, 2012, 12:08:01 AM
It's very hard for me to portray Vic as a scapegoat. He's a walk-on. I have a hard time blaming a walk on player who gets very few minutes.

^^ Hippie ^^
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: skycat on January 03, 2012, 02:02:26 AM
Vic is my GOAT.

Just an FYI, when you capitalize it, it means pretty much the opposite of what you want it to mean.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 03, 2012, 02:21:26 AM
Can is say, "Vic is my GOAT goat"?
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: skycat on January 03, 2012, 04:20:59 AM
Can is say, "Vic is my GOAT goat"?


I'll allow it.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2012, 08:49:05 AM
lol
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2012, 10:06:19 AM
This ridic deep rotation is making the goat hunting very hard.  I still can't get behind VicGoat. 

maybe SystemGoat?
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: 8manpick on January 03, 2012, 10:08:52 AM
There is no goat yet.  To say otherwise is silly.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: pissclams on January 03, 2012, 11:08:22 AM
Pegneck will always be my GOAT
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: SwiftCat on January 03, 2012, 11:55:17 AM
IF i had to choose a goat right now, it would probably be Southgoat. I know he does things for us other than score, but I just don't see it enough. Prove me wrong Shane, I want to like you.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: jtksu on January 03, 2012, 11:58:38 AM
Southie isn't terrible but I've been secretly hoping (for a while now) that he was going to make big contributions to our team and I have been pretty disappointed thus far.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
You have to really crap the bed to honestly be considered the GGOATOAT, and frankly this team just hasn't had anybody do that yet.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: kougar24 on January 03, 2012, 12:45:38 PM
Anyone who says Irving is the 'goat is freaking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2012, 01:18:33 PM
Anyone who says Irving is freaking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Man, you can take Irving out of that statement, and insert any of our players and it would be able to be defended.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: pissclams on January 03, 2012, 03:41:34 PM
pegneck
Title: an appeal for Vicgoat
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 03, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
Why can't we just have it be Victor?? The guy is only here one more semester, so we won't have to blame him for things very long. There is clearly no obvious consensus, so we are going to HAVE to pick somebody even though they will all have their flaws(strengths). He is obviously the one who is the biggest fracktard on the court for our team. He sucks donkey dick. I know he isn't out there very often, but there is never an excuse to suck donkey dick. Maybe he could be our iGoat (imaginarygoat?) since we don't have a real one?
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: SwiftCat on January 03, 2012, 04:29:54 PM
The season is still young, ksuduece. A goat will produce itself, mark my words.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 03, 2012, 04:53:52 PM
I pray that you're right, but I am afraid we might have a goatless year  :runaway:
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ben ji on January 03, 2012, 04:54:17 PM
Anyone who says Irving is freaking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Man, you can take Irving out of that statement, and insert any of our players and it would be able to be defended.

Mark my words, Irving WILL be the GOAT by the end of this year. My guess is a turnover in a crucial game with less than 2 minutes left while we are nursing a 2-5 point lead, more than likely said turnover will result in an easy basket and swing the momentum.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
Can is say, "Vic is my GOAT goat"?


This post redeemed you from your previous dumbassedry in this thread.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: ksupamplemousse on January 03, 2012, 05:31:42 PM
Can is say, "Vic is my GOAT goat"?


This post redeemed you from your previous dumbassedry in this thread.

Glad I have your approval  :jerk:
Title: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Kat Kid on January 04, 2012, 07:57:25 PM
Too early for a bump?  Help me trim down the list for goats up.

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Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: pissclams on January 04, 2012, 07:58:32 PM
Too early for a bump?  Help me trim down the list for goats up.

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Pegneck will always be my GOAT
Title: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: 8manpick on January 04, 2012, 09:26:58 PM
Irving was great tonight, Vic didn't play tonight.  JO (missing DOB) took the early conference season lead tonight.
Title: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2012, 09:48:30 PM
Irving was great tonight, Vic didn't play tonight.  JO (missing DOB) took the early conference season lead tonight.

If anyone has a problem with JO missing dunks they don't deserve to watch basketball ever again.  They should have their eyes cut out with a rusty spoon.  His aggression is amazing, and should be cherished.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: wetwillie on January 04, 2012, 09:49:50 PM
Kougar24 won big tonight. 
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: kougar24 on January 04, 2012, 09:54:50 PM
Kougar24 won big tonight. 

Eh?
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Skipper44 on January 04, 2012, 09:58:06 PM
Kougar24 won big tonight. 
I would  give catzacker the win, IMHO
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: wetwillie on January 04, 2012, 09:58:25 PM
Kougar24 won big tonight.  

Eh?

you coy little vixen
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: kougar24 on January 04, 2012, 10:02:19 PM
;)
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: SwiftCat on January 04, 2012, 10:37:24 PM
Its tough when the entire team plays like crap. Everyone except for JO, Jamar, Rodney, and Nino were goats up.

EDIT: and Tay was fine as well.
Title: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: kim carnes on January 04, 2012, 10:41:13 PM
Irving was great tonight, Vic didn't play tonight.  JO (missing DOB) took the early conference season lead tonight.

If anyone has a problem with JO missing dunks they don't deserve to watch basketball ever again.  They should have their eyes cut out with a rusty spoon.  His aggression is amazing, and should be cherished.

I don't have a problem with him missing dunks, I do however have a problem with him missing rebounds.
Title: Re: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2012, 10:44:09 PM
Irving was great tonight, Vic didn't play tonight.  JO (missing DOB) took the early conference season lead tonight.

If anyone has a problem with JO missing dunks they don't deserve to watch basketball ever again.  They should have their eyes cut out with a rusty spoon.  His aggression is amazing, and should be cherished.

I don't have a problem with him missing dunks, I do however have a problem with him missing rebounds.

You'll get no argument from me.  Everyone not named Nino Williams should be ashamed by their rebounding performance or lack thereof
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: kougar24 on January 04, 2012, 10:48:36 PM
I imagine that if you played basketball on ice with baby deer, they would have trouble rebounding.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: SwiftCat on January 29, 2012, 02:27:48 AM
Bump.
Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 29, 2012, 03:46:54 AM
Scapegoat =  Will Spradling

26% FG 24% 3pt land in Big 12 play

11 for his last 49 from the fied.  5 of his last 27 from 3pt land

Scape_WIll_Goat_Sprading

Need i say more

Title: Re: goEMAW scapegoat 2011-12
Post by: Andy on January 29, 2012, 10:19:34 AM
all the the guards have let us down at some point, but sprads has been the worst no doubt.