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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kougar24 on December 24, 2011, 03:32:46 PM
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So, he legitimately does not suck. It's weird. I keep waiting for him to throw up a no-look sky hook off the top of the backboard, but instead, he continues to catch difficult passes, take actual shots, and DOB with regularity when given the opportunity. Did he not get the memo?
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he is very good at making point blank shots. weird.
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Hopefully he spends all the next offseason working on defending short guys to round out his game.
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Pretty bouncy for his size. He wil be good. The DOB returns are already promising.
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he runs the floor very well. much less baby deer on icey than JO was as a frosh. he also plays very hard. when he is in he is working his ass off to get in position to receive an entry pass.
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Overall, our 2011 freshman class scores much higher than the grades they were given by Rivals.
The transfers other than Jones :barf:
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what do you call his tunnel dance? It is starting to grow on me despite how unconventional it might be.
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Overall, our 2011 freshman class scores much higher than the grades they were given by Rivals.
The transfers other than Jones :barf:
Just be glad Watson is the one that didn't pan out :dunno:
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by far the incomer that has most exceeded my expectations.
i still like lawrence better than jones. jones is exactly as was described by everyone that saw him in juco.
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I really like Diaz. He's already pretty good and he has a ton of upside.
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by far the incomer that has most exceeded my expectations.
i still like lawrence better than jones. jones is exactly as was described by everyone that saw him in juco.
What has made you like Lawrence? I can't remember him doing anything in his extremely limited minutes to make me think, "Oh, that guy might be a nice pickup."
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His twitter used to be pretty good.
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Lawrence swished a mid-ranger once. That excited me.
That, though, is it.
Always been on the diaz bandwagon. Looks like a ballpayer.
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Diaz is a smoother player than JO right now. He should be a better player than JO when both have completed their careers.
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Guys like Diaz and Angel, with Upshaw coming next year, leave me optimistic about sustained success for KSU Basketball Cats. I have nothing against Frank at all. Not that I ever had much against him anyway.
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Diaz is a smoother player than JO right now. He should be a better player than JO when both have completed their careers.
Diaz cannot touch JO in terms of adorableness, imo
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Diaz is a smoother player than JO right now. He should be a better player than JO when both have completed their careers.
Diaz cannot touch JO in terms of adorableness, imo
Agreed. He scores much lower on the Jim Henson Creation scale.
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Diaz is not better or smoother than JO right now. :facepalm:
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Diaz is not better or smoother than JO right now. :facepalm:
I agree. He also seems less adamant about DOB'ing. All of that should improve with more experience and an offseason or two in the weight room, though.
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he's not better, but he's certainly smoother. baby deer on ice aren't smooth, even when dunking on bitches.
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What has made you like Lawrence? I can't remember him doing anything in his extremely limited minutes to make me think, "Oh, that guy might be a nice pickup."
nothing, that lawrence has done on the floor here. it's a way of not liking jones.
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Diaz is not better or smoother than JO right now. :facepalm:
He is smoother. JO still has "omgz how does i catch loose ball?" syndrome. He is better than JO was as a frosh too.
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Diaz is not better or smoother than JO right now. :facepalm:
He is smoother. JO still has "omgz how does i catch loose ball?" syndrome. He is better than JO was as a frosh too.
I disagree.
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We can conclude from this thread Diaz = JO without duck feet and spider arms.
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I think we can all agree that there is nothing more adorable on God's green earth than a baby deer on ice. Especially one that can D-o-B's.
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Lawrence swished a mid-ranger once. That excited me.
I keep going back to this.
It was a really pretty swish, too.
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Jones swishing rainbow 3s > Lawrence swishing a midrange jumper once.*
* this does not mean I like Jones, sys
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I can't comprehend how someone can think Jo is as fluid as Diaz. He's better right now, bit not as smooth.
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Jones swishing rainbow 3s > Lawrence swishing a midrange jumper once.*
* this does not mean I like Jones, sys
I think you're really underestimating how pretty that mid-range jumper really was.
It was, like, 70's ABA style.
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Diaz (Fr) >> JO (Fr.)
People seem to forget that JO made a major leap last year. He looked lost all the time as a frosh. Diaz looks much better and much smoother than freshman JO. IMO, he is also smoother than current JO.
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hey.....remember this guy?
all our bigs would skull eff this guy
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FJASONBENNETT4_20150.JPG&hash=ee603d88407542429e976baaaa391166350fb9a9)
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I like Diaz because he tries to dunk a lot. Dunking is the best thing a basketball player can do.
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hey.....remember this guy?
all our bigs would skull eff this guy
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FJASONBENNETT4_20150.JPG&hash=ee603d88407542429e976baaaa391166350fb9a9)
:nono: (ftp://:nono:)
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The thing JO has always had that we haven't seen from Diaz yet is an above average ability to block shots/ contest shots at the rim. No?? Diaz could grow into it obviously but that's kidna important from big men in Frank's defense.
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I can't comprehend how someone can think Jo is as fluid as Diaz.
Pretty ridiculous argument either way. How fluid someone appears to someone else is really abstract.
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How fluid someone appears to someone else is really abstract.
sutton appeared fluid to everyone. he was a goddamn river.
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this seems similar to sys' "Wally's Athleticism" argument.
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Call me when Diaz can DOB like this.
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Diaz doesn't have DOBing ability like JO. No question. Potential??? Maybe.
I just view them as two different types of players. Diaz seems like more of a face up forward and JO more of a back to the basket center. Diaz seems like a better ball handler/passer than JO, hence more fluid. But, let's be honest, the sample size is pretty small.
Long story short, Diaz has played really well since the Alabama game. Anyone who thinks he sucks is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
If he and JO can hit 12ft jump shots, they'll both play professional basketball. Probably overseas. But, legit 7 foot shooters, DOBers are hard to come by.
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Call me when Diaz can DOB like this.
That is a great visual backdrop for this post:
PP: #4 for LBSU avoiding being a dunked-upon bitch. JO was going to do it, and #4 was like, "No rough ridin' way. I'm out of here."
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Perhaps Frank and staffs HS recruit scouting is getting better. So far Gip and Angel have been very solid and Diaz looks to have potential. Last year Spradling was solid with Southwell having potential. Nino is still a question mark. 2 years ago Rod is solid, Irving and JO are good. Russell and Wally are gone.
Its the transfer thing that is questionable, but early returns show that Jones may be the best JUCO in Frank's tenure.
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Perhaps Frank and staffs HS recruit scouting is getting better.
it's been pretty damn good all along. a few misses/transfers, but unrated all big 12 pullen and unrated starter samuels in the first year. that doesn't happen to every coach.
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hey.....remember this guy?
all our bigs would skull eff this guy
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FJASONBENNETT4_20150.JPG&hash=ee603d88407542429e976baaaa391166350fb9a9)
OT: Maybe he sucked because he is actually a 6 footer with a 1 foot neck.
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hey.....remember this guy?
all our bigs would skull eff this guy
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FJASONBENNETT4_20150.JPG&hash=ee603d88407542429e976baaaa391166350fb9a9)
OT: Maybe he sucked because he is actually a 6 footer with a 1 foot neck.
Which is why, for sports, people should be measured at their shoulder height. Any measurement above the shoulders can be done with the wonderlic or equivalent.
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The Lawrence mid-range swish is taking on a mythical "klein Nebraska pass" aura. Very enjoyable.
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it's been pretty damn good all along.
just saw that anthony downing is starting for missouri state.
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I may be wrong here, but diaz' hands and feet look tiny on tv. In a disproportionate way.
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The Lawrence mid-range swish is taking on a mythical "klein Nebraska pass" aura. Very enjoyable.
Can we get a "the swish" video?
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hey.....remember this guy?
all our bigs would skull eff this guy
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FPROSPECT%2FPHOTO%2FJASONBENNETT4_20150.JPG&hash=ee603d88407542429e976baaaa391166350fb9a9)
OT: Maybe he sucked because he is actually a 6 footer with a 1 foot neck.
astute observation. Part of the reason why I chose that pic.
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It's like all you retards forgot about JO's freshman game against Baylor on the road (elite 8 team). Wake me when Diaz shows up in a game like that this year.
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I think fanning may have invested in the MIR PI Training Course. If so, congrats.
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Perhaps Frank and staffs HS recruit scouting is getting better. So far Gip and Angel have been very solid and Diaz looks to have potential. Last year Spradling was solid with Southwell having potential. Nino is still a question mark. 2 years ago Rod is solid, Irving and JO are good. Russell and Wally are gone.
Its the transfer thing that is questionable, but early returns show that Jones may be the best JUCO in Frank's tenure.
To be fair, I think Nino is closer to a frowny face than a question mark at this stage.
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Nino seems like a kid who'd be pretty solid in pick up games at the rec.
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Nino seems like a kid who'd be pretty solid in pick up games at the rec.
I imagine most Division 1 basketball players would be.
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I imagine most Division 1 basketball players would be.
I imagine mose D1 players would be a bit more than just "solid." More like, they would humiliate everybody on the floor with swishing shots and face-smooshing.
Nino probably wouldn't stand out in an intramural game between a couple of frats.
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Perhaps Frank and staffs HS recruit scouting is getting better.
it's been pretty damn good all along. a few misses/transfers, but unrated all big 12 pullen and unrated starter samuels in the first year. that doesn't happen to every coach.
year 2 was unbelievably awful, though. Well, except for CK. Never mind.
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I imagine most Division 1 basketball players would be.
I imagine mose D1 players would be a bit more than just "solid." More like, they would humiliate everybody on the floor with swishing shots and face-smooshing.
Nino probably wouldn't stand out in an intramural game between a couple of frats.
Dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. Nino has basketball skills...he just has no bbiq and never knows where to be in Frank's system so he doesn't play.
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Call me when Diaz can DOB like this.
just wanted to post this again on page 3.
could watch all day.
love how #4 just gets out of the way because he does not want to be a B. for J.O. to D.O.
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Dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. Nino has basketball skills...he just has no bbiq and never knows where to be in Frank's system so he doesn't play.
Look, obviously I'm being somewhat tongue in cheek, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Nonetheless, Nino isn't a scholarship athlete. Or, at least he hasn't shown us anything on the basketball court to prove otherwise. He's a 6'5 forward for god's sake.
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a B. for J.O. to D.O.
:thumbs:
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Call me when Diaz can DOB like this.
just wanted to post this again on page 3.
could watch all day.
love how #4 just gets out of the way because he does not want to be a B. for J.O. to D.O.
It's like #4 did a quick math equation and was like "I'm 4 ft tall and this black angel of death who soars the peaks of the himalayas is 10 ft tall, I better get the eff out of dodge, vroooooooom".
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Dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. Nino has basketball skills...he just has no bbiq and never knows where to be in Frank's system so he doesn't play.
Look, obviously I'm being somewhat tongue in cheek, respect.
Nonetheless, Nino isn't a scholarship athlete. Or, at least he hasn't shown us anything on the basketball court to prove otherwise. He's a 6'5 forward for god's sake.
Nino was a public relations move by Frank to show the tucks he is getting in-state kids (even those neither Nino or Sprads were recruited by KU).
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Nino was a public relations move by Frank to show the tucks he is getting in-state kids (even those neither Nino or Sprads were recruited by KU).
Yes.
May also be a building block for the Mo-Kan Spiece pipeline.
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Nino was a public relations move by Frank to show the tucks he is getting in-state kids (even those neither Nino or Sprads were recruited by KU).
Yes.
May also be a building block for the Mo-Kan Spiece pipeline.
He's going to need to play/develop Nino for that building block to be tangible.
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Wasn't Nino a 4-star (lol)?
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This is when I point out that he is a redshirt freshman who didn't participate his true freshman year because of post concussion syndrome. Slow down.
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This is when I point out that he is a redshirt freshman who didn't participate his true freshman year because of post concussion syndrome. Slow down.
lol
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Nino will be a two year starter :blindfold:
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this thread is dumb, we are overload at the three
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This is when I point out that he is a redshirt freshman who didn't participate his true freshman year because of post concussion syndrome. Slow down.
This is where I fall. That said, the best thing Niño could do is watch a bunch of Sutton film and try to be him.
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Is Nino athletic? I haven't seen him do anything remotely Sutton-esque to date.
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jfc, belvis and emo.
i hope you aren't the same people complaining that kstate isn't recruiting semi ojeleye hard enough.
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Wasn't Nino a 4-star (lol)?
bossi. right?
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jfc, belvis and emo.
i hope you aren't the same people complaining that kstate isn't recruiting semi ojeleye hard enough.
huh?
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huh?
the idea that williams isn't a scholarship level d1 player is absolutely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
kstate has a a lot more guys than playing time at the 3 and some posters are complaining about possibly easing off the recruitment of a guy that is close to a williams clone. i can't recall if you and emo are among those posters, but if you are, i'd like to lol @ you more than if you aren't.
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the idea that williams isn't a scholarship level d1 player is absolutely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
I'm probably being too harsh on him, but I expected more out of him at this point. He's shown nothing.
I mean, tell me what you like about his game?
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I mean, tell me what you like about his game?
he's played like 5 minutes. the only thing i can conclude is that he's obviously not better than the guys that are playing.
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the idea that williams isn't a scholarship level d1 player is absolutely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
I'm probably being too harsh on him, but I expected more out of him at this point. He's shown nothing.
I mean, tell me what you like about his game?
Of course he hasn't. He averages like 1 minute a game. In mop up duty however I think he's shown opportunity to have a nice 3 ball. He's playing tight with his time, you would too. Give him some minutes and I'm sure you'd see his game open up.
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he's played like 5 minutes. the only thing i can conclude is that he's obviously not better than the guys that are playing.
That's kind of the point, no?
Those guys championing Nino as a good use of a scholarship really have no basis. He never plays. Conclusion? He's not good enough to get minutes. Conclusion? true freshman and juco guys are better than him.
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Of course he hasn't. He averages like 1 minute a game. In mop up duty however I think he's shown opportunity to have a nice 3 ball. He's playing tight with his time, you would too. Give him some minutes and I'm sure you'd see his game open up.
This is such a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) argument. Nino would be a lot better if he had more minutes!!!
FACT: Nino would get more minutes if he was a better player.
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And btw, Nino is a forward. not a guard.
Per the roster, he's competing with Samuels, Ojeleye and Watson for minutes.
He's a 6-5 forward. Doesn't have good ball skills.
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And btw, Nino is a forward. not a guard.
Per the roster, he's competing with Samuels, Ojeleye and Watson for minutes.
He's a 6-5 forward. Doesn't have good ball skills.
compared to those guys, he has great ball skills.
i don't agree with your implication that because he's not getting minutes that he was a recruiting mistake. you can't play 13 guys. even if you have the best 13 players in the country (not saying kstate does, don't try and straw man your way away from the argument), and even if your coach plays his bench more than he probably should, about 3-4 of them aren't going to get minutes.
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Nino is competing w/ McGruder and Southwell for minutes more than anyone.
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i don't agree with your implication that because he's not getting minutes that he was a recruiting mistake. you can't play 13 guys. even if you have the best 13 players in the country (not saying kstate does, don't try and straw man your way away from the argument), and even if your coach plays his bench more than he probably should, about 3-4 of them aren't going to get minutes.
Didn't say it was a mistake to recruit him. Just saying that he hasn't panned out since he's been here. If his sophomore season is as worthless as this season has been, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if Frank ran him off to open up a scholarship.
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Nino is competing w/ McGruder and Southwell for minutes more than anyone.
With a 6-5 frame, yes, this is what one would assume. But, he's listed as a forward on the roster, whereas McGruder and Southwell are listed as guards. He plays a different position and, hence, technically doesn't compete with McGruder and Southwell. As a practical matter, I have no idea who he competes with because he's not good enough to see any playing time.
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Look, the proof is in the stat line. Frank is running an 11-man rotation on the floor. One of the deepest teams in the Conference. Anybody who can contribute gets minutes. Plenty of 1st and 2nd year guys and JuCos.
A-Rod
Sprad
McGruder
Irving
Southwell
JJones
Samuels
JO
Gip
Diaz
Ojeleye
Then, we've got 2 walk-ons, 2 crap juco guys, and Nino who are fighting for the table scraps.
Maybe he'll turn into the toughest 6-5 forward in the BigXII. Or maybe he'll develop ball handling skills at the age of 20.
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I don't think Nino was a recruiting mistake per se, I mean he was an in-state kid and all...and MoKan, which in retrospect has amounted to jack crap for us.
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Nino is competing w/ McGruder and Southwell for minutes more than anyone.
With a 6-5 frame, yes, this is what one would assume. But, he's listed as a forward on the roster, whereas McGruder and Southwell are listed as guards. He plays a different position and, hence, technically doesn't compete with McGruder and Southwell. As a practical matter, I have no idea who he competes with because he's not good enough to see any playing time.
jesus christ I can't believe I fed the troll.
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jesus christ I can't believe I fed the troll.
jezuscrist, I can't believe I waste my time arguing with people who don't even know what f'ing position Nino plays.
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So much knowledge in this thread. :popcorn:
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This thread needs a title change, very misleading.
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This thread needs a title change, very misleading.
my guess is that the staff anticipated having more minutes available for guys like williams and lawrence, playing frequently with a single post. but that the early success of gipson and to a lesser extent diaz have let them play a more traditional lineup. so, it's a little related.
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jesus christ I can't believe I fed the troll.
jezuscrist, I can't believe I waste my time arguing with people who don't even know what f'ing position Nino plays.
just because he's listed as a forward, doesn't mean he's not competing with Rod and Shane for the 3 spot. at 6'5" he's not exactly a 4. Obviously Rod is going to get the majority of the 3 minutes, followed by Shane, then Nino. There just aren't that many minutes left after the first two guys unless you are in a blowout.
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I can't wait until this turns into a Colin Klein photoshop meme thread :bwpopcorn:
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Look, the proof is in the stat line. Frank is running an 11-man rotation on the floor. One of the deepest teams in the Conference. Anybody who can contribute gets minutes. Plenty of 1st and 2nd year guys and JuCos.
A-Rod
Sprad
McGruder
Irving
Southwell
JJones
Samuels
JO
Gip
Diaz
Ojeleye
Then, we've got 2 walk-ons, 2 crap juco guys, and Nino who are fighting for the table scraps.
Maybe he'll turn into the toughest 6-5 forward in the BigXII. Or maybe he'll develop ball handling skills at the age of 20.
Two things, first I don't care how they're listed and I don't think Frank does either but Rodney and Shane are not guards. We have three guards who play, possibly four with Jones. Rodney is the starting small forward, Angel is the first guard off of the bench and he's dubbed for either Tay or Will. We've never had Tay, Will, & ar-t in together so its safe to assume that is the guard rotation. I haven't studied (he hasn't played enough) Jones' to say for sure what his sub pattern is, though I'm pretty sure he's a shooting guard exclusively. There is no way you can think Rodney is a guard unless you think Tay is the small forward.
Secondly, no one knows if Nino is the answer, however you need to realize that he isn't playing behind any freshman or first year jucos (with the possible exception of Jones). Angel, Gip, and Diaz all play different positions. The shooting guard/small forward positions in the depth chart ahead on Nino are held by players who have more experience. Shane has the benefit of playing all last season, its safe to assume that Nino's practice time was limited if he was recovering from two concussions in a short period of time. If he and Jones are competing for PT (I don't think they are) there's no shame that a junior is getting more tic because he's better offensively than a rs freshman recovering from PCS.
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This thread needs a title change, very misleading.
my guess is that the staff anticipated having more minutes available for guys like williams and lawrence, playing frequently with a single post. but that the early success of gipson and to a lesser extent diaz have let them play a more traditional lineup. so, it's a little related.
Well done.
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Two things, first I don't care how they're listed and I don't think Frank does either but Rodney and Shane are not guards.
I won't argue. Frank puts guys on the floor, regardless of position on roster. granted. I do believe he generally puts his bigs in the paint/FT line and everybody else on the perimeter (including his 3s MacG and Southwell).
I'm just concerned that Nino's a classic college tweener. Not big enough to play inside, not good enough shooter/ball handler to play outside. Maybe he'll surprise me when he starts getting more minutes.
The problem is the minutes. All of these experienced players that currently keep him on the bench... all return next year. Maybe he'll play well in 2013-2014?
Personally, I think Diaz could be another problem for the Ninos of the world. If Diaz has the range that the recruiting experts observed, I can see him playing a lot more minutes in different spots on the floor, inside and out. I'm really excited about our front court. Add in an impact perimeter player and this team could be pretty awesome.
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FTR, if we don't get Semi then we should fire Frank.
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jfc, belvis and emo.
i hope you aren't the same people complaining that kstate isn't recruiting semi ojeleye hard enough.
FTR, if we don't get Semi then we should fire Frank.
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good job, emo.
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Two things, first I don't care how they're listed and I don't think Frank does either but Rodney and Shane are not guards.
I won't argue. Frank puts guys on the floor, regardless of position on roster. granted. I do believe he generally puts his bigs in the paint/FT line and everybody else on the perimeter (including his 3s MacG and Southwell).
I'm just concerned that Nino's a classic college tweener. Not big enough to play inside, not good enough shooter/ball handler to play outside. Maybe he'll surprise me when he starts getting more minutes.
The problem is the minutes. All of these experienced players that currently keep him on the bench... all return next year. Maybe he'll play well in 2013-2014?
Personally, I think Diaz could be another problem for the Ninos of the world. If Diaz has the range that the recruiting experts observed, I can see him playing a lot more minutes in different spots on the floor, inside and out. I'm really excited about our front court. Add in an impact perimeter player and this team could be pretty awesome.
Why is it a "problem" if Nino lacks minutes because we have better players in front of him? Do you expect our scrubs to only be walk-ons?
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Two things, first I don't care how they're listed and I don't think Frank does either but Rodney and Shane are not guards.
I won't argue. Frank puts guys on the floor, regardless of position on roster. granted. I do believe he generally puts his bigs in the paint/FT line and everybody else on the perimeter (including his 3s MacG and Southwell).
I'm just concerned that Nino's a classic college tweener. Not big enough to play inside, not good enough shooter/ball handler to play outside. Maybe he'll surprise me when he starts getting more minutes.
The problem is the minutes. All of these experienced players that currently keep him on the bench... all return next year. Maybe he'll play well in 2013-2014?
Personally, I think Diaz could be another problem for the Ninos of the world. If Diaz has the range that the recruiting experts observed, I can see him playing a lot more minutes in different spots on the floor, inside and out. I'm really excited about our front court. Add in an impact perimeter player and this team could be pretty awesome.
Why is it a "problem" if Nino lacks minutes because we have better players in front of him? Do you expect our scrubs to only be walk-ons?
I think he meant that it's a problem for Nino. :dunno:
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I'm just concerned that Nino's a classic college tweener. Not big enough to play inside, not good enough shooter/ball handler to play outside.
Very possible. Also I don't see Diaz playing anywhere else no matter what his range is because I can't see him guarding anything but another big.
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good job, emo.
Jamar is gone after this year and it'd be nice to not have to the droughts and floods thing with wing players. Bring one or two in every class, run off the one that ends up sucking or doesn't buy in or whatever. Also, look how well Colorado did (against us) playing 5 guys like that. Look how well Mizzou is doing. It'd be a good hedge against the scenario where we don't have two pseudo-dominant bigs.
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good job, emo.
Jamar is gone after this year and it'd be nice to not have to the droughts and floods thing with wing players. Bring one or two in every class, run off the one that ends up sucking or doesn't buy in or whatever. Also, look how well Colorado did (against us) playing 5 guys like that. Look how well Mizzou is doing. It'd be a good hedge against the scenario where we don't have two pseudo-dominant bigs.
mu plays guards, not 3s. their only 3 is english who has guard skills. cu played two guys like that, one of which was a first round pick and also had guard skills. 3s kinda suck, unless you play them at the 4. guards are better. it's easy to play a 2 at the 2 or the 3. or a 1 at the 1, 2 or 3.
i'm not against ojeleye, other than that his brother sucks, which makes me suspect he's overrated. but i don't think he's important other than as a mokan rep.
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good job, emo.
Jamar is gone after this year and it'd be nice to not have to the droughts and floods thing with wing players. Bring one or two in every class, run off the one that ends up sucking or doesn't buy in or whatever. Also, look how well Colorado did (against us) playing 5 guys like that. Look how well Mizzou is doing. It'd be a good hedge against the scenario where we don't have two pseudo-dominant bigs.
mu plays guards, not 3s. their only 3 is english who has guard skills. cu played two guys like that, one of which was a first round pick and also had guard skills. 3s kinda suck, unless you play them at the 4. guards are better. it's easy to play a 2 at the 2 or the 3. or a 1 at the 1, 2 or 3.
i'm not against ojeleye, other than that his brother sucks, which makes me suspect he's overrated. but i don't think he's important other than as a mokan rep.
Don't you think we could potentially do well with a line-up of Gruds, Southwell, Sprads, Diaz/Gipson, Nino/Semi? I mean ya Southwell and Sprads are guards, but they're not like pure "it puts the ball in the hole" guards.
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I like Diaz, he seems happy. :)
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good job, emo.
Jamar is gone after this year and it'd be nice to not have to the droughts and floods thing with wing players. Bring one or two in every class, run off the one that ends up sucking or doesn't buy in or whatever. Also, look how well Colorado did (against us) playing 5 guys like that. Look how well Mizzou is doing. It'd be a good hedge against the scenario where we don't have two pseudo-dominant bigs.
mu plays guards, not 3s. their only 3 is english who has guard skills. cu played two guys like that, one of which was a first round pick and also had guard skills. 3s kinda suck, unless you play them at the 4. guards are better. it's easy to play a 2 at the 2 or the 3. or a 1 at the 1, 2 or 3.
i'm not against ojeleye, other than that his brother sucks, which makes me suspect he's overrated. but i don't think he's important other than as a mokan rep.
Don't you think we could potentially do well with a line-up of Gruds, Southwell, Sprads, Diaz/Gipson, Nino/Semi? I mean ya Southwell and Sprads are guards, but they're not like pure "it puts the ball in the hole" guards.
Are we planning to redshirt Gruds or is Semi graduating early?
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Don't you think we could potentially do well with a line-up of Gruds, Southwell, Sprads, Diaz/Gipson, Nino/Semi? I mean ya Southwell and Sprads are guards, but they're not like pure "it puts the ball in the hole" guards.
i'd rather have 4 1s and combos and a big.
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Don't you think we could potentially do well with a line-up of Gruds, Southwell, Sprads, Diaz/Gipson, Nino/Semi? I mean ya Southwell and Sprads are guards, but they're not like pure "it puts the ball in the hole" guards.
i'd rather have 4 1s and combos and a big.
agreed. Enjoyed your thoughts on the the usefullness of "3's" earlier. 3 "skills" are becoming irrelevant IMO.
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Don't you think we could potentially do well with a line-up of Gruds, Southwell, Sprads, Diaz/Gipson, Nino/Semi? I mean ya Southwell and Sprads are guards, but they're not like pure "it puts the ball in the hole" guards.
i'd rather have 4 1s and combos and a big.
agreed. Enjoyed your thoughts on the the usefullness of "3's" earlier. 3 "skills" are becoming irrelevant IMO.
yeah, unless you want to rebound and defend and crap like frank. :jerk:
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Don't you think we could potentially do well with a line-up of Gruds, Southwell, Sprads, Diaz/Gipson, Nino/Semi? I mean ya Southwell and Sprads are guards, but they're not like pure "it puts the ball in the hole" guards.
i'd rather have 4 1s and combos and a big.
agreed. Enjoyed your thoughts on the the usefullness of "3's" earlier. 3 "skills" are becoming irrelevant IMO.
yeah, unless you want to rebound and defend and crap like frank. :jerk:
I didn't say 3 "size" I said 3 "skills". Guys like Southwell would be just fine at the 2 in many cases.
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Don't you think we could potentially do well with a line-up of Gruds, Southwell, Sprads, Diaz/Gipson, Nino/Semi? I mean ya Southwell and Sprads are guards, but they're not like pure "it puts the ball in the hole" guards.
i'd rather have 4 1s and combos and a big.
agreed. Enjoyed your thoughts on the the usefullness of "3's" earlier. 3 "skills" are becoming irrelevant IMO.
yeah, unless you want to rebound and defend and crap like frank. :jerk:
I didn't say 3 "size" I said 3 "skills". Guys like Southwell would be just fine at the 2 in many cases.
unless you want at least 3 guys to kick it out to to bust a 3, will you just stop. :facepalm:
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Alright, 50pts at half. We should see a lot of Nino in the 2nd half. Let's see what he's got.
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5 minutes for AD, 5 for Nino, 4 for Omari.
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is Omari #1 on the "You've been Frank'd" list?
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is Omari #1 on the "You've been Frank'd" list?
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Call me when Diaz can DOB like this.
just wanted to post this again on page 3.
could watch all day.
love how #4 just gets out of the way because he does not want to be a B. for J.O. to D.O.
It's like #4 did a quick math equation and was like "I'm 4 ft tall and this black angel of death who soars the peaks of the himalayas is 10 ft tall, I better get the eff out of dodge, vroooooooom".
Just wanted to give fanning some credit. I laughed harder at this comment than I think I ever have before. Thank you