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Title: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: OregonSmock on March 04, 2010, 03:47:10 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 04, 2010, 03:48:15 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

Better players staying out of foul trouble? 
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: OregonSmock on March 04, 2010, 03:49:23 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

Better players staying out of foul trouble? 





Was Jordan Henriquez not available last night?
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: ArchE_Cat on March 04, 2010, 03:49:59 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

stop listening to Petro then coming over here to repeat his stupid questions, tia.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: JavaCat on March 04, 2010, 03:50:03 PM
Probably the same excuse Bill Self has for making Judge look a lot better than he is.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 04, 2010, 03:50:38 PM
Stupid thread. Wally has sucked this year. He was playing well, so he played.

Quit trolling and don't be dumb.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 04, 2010, 03:52:17 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

stop listening to Petro then coming over here to repeat his stupid questions, tia.  :thumbsup:

Right you are, Doug....
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: OregonSmock on March 04, 2010, 03:54:05 PM
The K-State fans I watched the game with last night had the same question.  Judge is one of the most talented players on K-State's team, yet the guy never plays.  It's ridiculous, and any of you guys that want K-State to make it past the 2nd round of the tournament should be concerned.  
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2010, 03:54:13 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

A 24-3 record in those games?  :dunno:
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Cire on March 04, 2010, 03:59:00 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

A 24-3 record in those games?  :dunno:

pfft
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: OK_Cat on March 04, 2010, 04:08:17 PM
 :bait:
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: VGibsonLives on March 04, 2010, 04:13:23 PM
The K-State fans I watched the game with last night had the same question.  Judge is one of the most talented players on K-State's team, yet the guy never plays.  It's ridiculous, and any of you guys that want K-State to make it past the 2nd round of the tournament should be concerned.  

WTF - you weren't at the House of Mouse to watch in person? :confused:
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: OregonSmock on March 04, 2010, 04:18:26 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

A 24-3 record in those games?  :dunno:





You guys are like a bunch of cult followers.  Glad to know you're content with one of your best players not even seeing the court against lesser competition. 
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Cire on March 04, 2010, 04:19:28 PM
Yes, Curtis Kelly is selfish for playing so many minutes all year.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: OK_Cat on March 04, 2010, 04:23:17 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

A 24-3 record in those games?  :dunno:





You guys are like a bunch of cult followers.  Glad to know you're content with one of your best players not even seeing the court against lesser competition. 

Wally isn't one of our best players.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2010, 04:52:26 PM
Defense and rebounding.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: KITNfury on March 04, 2010, 04:55:42 PM
Defense and rebounding.
Yeah, beat me to it.

Look BMW, I realize you don't know much about sports in general, and maybe basketball in particular, so go back and check the DVR. I saw Judge get abused consistently on rebound position. crap, once it was after a KU free throw (luckily shot went in to not show how horrible Judge did). His offense isn't his weakness, but I wouldn't expect you to notice. The more you know!
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
And I nean no disrespect to Wally, he will be very good before he's done.  Wally/McGruds show in two years will be fun to watch.  JMHO.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Cire on March 04, 2010, 05:02:37 PM
It'll be great if hill gets off his ass and recruits some help
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 04, 2010, 05:07:02 PM
....for not giving Wally Judge more playing time against teams other than KU?

A 24-3 record in those games?  :dunno:





You guys are like a bunch of cult followers.  Glad to know you're content with one of your best players not even seeing the court against lesser competition. 

Says the guy who has seen 3 KSU games all year.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: D-FRED-BROWN on March 04, 2010, 05:47:51 PM
Listen to the pregame/postgame interview with Frank on Wyattvision... Frank puts players in largely based on how they performed in practice.

Because Wally played a lot during the game, that can only imply that Frank was pleased with how he did in practice.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 04, 2010, 05:51:12 PM
It'll be great if hill gets off his ass and recruits some help

+1

Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Benja on March 04, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
It'll be great if hill gets off his ass and recruits some help

For reals. This guy does nothing for us. Hey Te', we gave you all that cash to buy cadillacs for blue-chipers mothers, not recruit lilly white kids from some 1A school in Kansas BFE.

Good work on Tony Mitchell. Dick.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 04, 2010, 06:29:30 PM
Very similar to KU fans wondering why Huggins didn't play Maybank more after he destroyed KU. 

Very LBBIQ but not surprising.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Perry on March 04, 2010, 06:34:09 PM
I definitely think he could've benefited from more playing time, but he wasn't all that great most of the time he was playing :dunno:
Take out the game @ uk and you probably don't make a thread about him not getting more time.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: OregonSmock on March 04, 2010, 07:19:33 PM
Very similar to KU fans wondering why Huggins didn't play Maybank more after he destroyed KU. 

Very LBBIQ but not surprising.




Not even close.  Judge is a McDonald's All-American freshman with tons of upside.  He's the best athlete K-State has in its frontcourt, and he's a guy that K-State will rely on in the future.  You saw on that putback dunk last night what the kid can do when he's playing with confidence.  There's simply no justification for only giving Judge 70 total minutes of playing time in conference games outside of KU (45 minutes).  He should have been getting 20+ minutes a game against teams like Colorado, Iowa State, and Nebraska.  McGruder needs more playing time as well, but you guys have Frank's c*ck so deep in your throats you're too afraid to say anything about it.  

Here are Judges numbers in the four games he has been given more than 20 minutes of playing time (Ole Miss, Alabama, and Kansas):


Ole Miss - 24 min, 5-7 fg, 11 pts, 5 reb

Alabama - 21 min, 6-7 fg, 15 pts, 7 reb, 2 blk

Kansas - 24 min, 3-6 fg, 10 pts, 9 reb, 1 blk

Kansas - 21 min, 2-6 fg, 6 pts, 4 reb, 1 blk


AVERAGE:  22.5 min, 16-26 fg (61%), 10.5 pts, 6.25 reb, 1.0 blk





 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Cire on March 04, 2010, 07:22:41 PM
4 games?
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 04, 2010, 07:38:07 PM
Very similar to KU fans wondering why Huggins didn't play Maybank more after he destroyed KU. 

Very LBBIQ but not surprising.




Not even close.  Judge is a McDonald's All-American freshman with tons of upside.  He's the best athlete K-State has in its frontcourt, and he's a guy that K-State will rely on in the future.  You saw on that putback dunk last night what the kid can do when he's playing with confidence.  There's simply no justification for only giving Judge 70 total minutes of playing time in conference games outside of KU (45 minutes).  He should have been getting 20+ minutes a game against teams like Colorado, Iowa State, and Nebraska.  McGruder needs more playing time as well, but you guys have Frank's c*ck so deep in your throats you're too afraid to say anything about it.  

Here are Judges numbers in the four games he has been given more than 20 minutes of playing time (Ole Miss, Alabama, and Kansas):


Ole Miss - 24 min, 5-7 fg, 11 pts, 5 reb

Alabama - 21 min, 6-7 fg, 15 pts, 7 reb, 2 blk

Kansas - 24 min, 3-6 fg, 10 pts, 9 reb, 1 blk

Kansas - 21 min, 2-6 fg, 6 pts, 4 reb, 1 blk


AVERAGE:  22.5 min, 16-26 fg (61%), 10.5 pts, 6.25 reb, 1.0 blk





 :rolleyes:


We lost 3 of those 4.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: ChiComCat on March 04, 2010, 08:19:56 PM
Very similar to KU fans wondering why Huggins didn't play Maybank more after he destroyed KU. 

Very LBBIQ but not surprising.




Not even close.  Judge is a McDonald's All-American freshman with tons of upside.  He's the best athlete K-State has in its frontcourt, and he's a guy that K-State will rely on in the future.  You saw on that putback dunk last night what the kid can do when he's playing with confidence.  There's simply no justification for only giving Judge 70 total minutes of playing time in conference games outside of KU (45 minutes).  He should have been getting 20+ minutes a game against teams like Colorado, Iowa State, and Nebraska.  McGruder needs more playing time as well, but you guys have Frank's c*ck so deep in your throats you're too afraid to say anything about it. 

Here are Judges numbers in the four games he has been given more than 20 minutes of playing time (Ole Miss, Alabama, and Kansas):


Ole Miss - 24 min, 5-7 fg, 11 pts, 5 reb

Alabama - 21 min, 6-7 fg, 15 pts, 7 reb, 2 blk

Kansas - 24 min, 3-6 fg, 10 pts, 9 reb, 1 blk

Kansas - 21 min, 2-6 fg, 6 pts, 4 reb, 1 blk


AVERAGE:  22.5 min, 16-26 fg (61%), 10.5 pts, 6.25 reb, 1.0 blk





 :rolleyes:


Check out his fouls per 40 and you'll start to understand why he cant get over 20 min...pretty fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thread
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: mcmwcat on March 04, 2010, 09:38:24 PM
so Wally played more minutes in games in which he's been efficient.  makes sense.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: EMAWzified on March 05, 2010, 11:26:03 AM
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stop listening to Petro then coming over here to repeat his stupid questions, tia.
exactly.
Gawd, moonbeams you make a complete ass of yourself at times. Frank has given Judge every chance. What's held him back? His inability to stay out of foul trouble. Quit being a dumb fu¢k and look it up. He can and has picked up four fouls in five minutes. But, for some reason, KU can't take advantage of his sorry ass post defense.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2010, 11:38:05 AM
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stop listening to Petro then coming over here to repeat his stupid questions, tia.
exactly.
Gawd, moonbeams you make a complete ass of yourself at times. Frank has given Judge every chance. What's held him back? His inability to stay out of foul trouble. Quit being a dumb fu¢k and look it up. He can and has picked up four fouls in five minutes. But, for some reason, KU can't take advantage of his sorry ass post defense.

Somehow our fans have forgotten that Judge averaged nearly 14 MPG in the OOC and got the opportunity to start 6 games while Lou was out.  While I can see some people wishing he has played a few more minutes in some of the Big 12 games, let's not act like Wally hasn't been given a pretty fair shot to bypass Lou, etc. 

And again, Wally is going to be fine and will be a very, very good player here.  And he understands his role on this team much better than a lot of the fanbase based on comments he's made since he's been available to the media.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: kstatefreak42 on March 05, 2010, 11:43:56 AM
next year- Wally becomes a man.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2010, 12:56:47 PM
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stop listening to Petro then coming over here to repeat his stupid questions, tia.
exactly.
Gawd, moonbeams you make a complete ass of yourself at times. Frank has given Judge every chance. What's held him back? His inability to stay out of foul trouble. Quit being a dumb fu¢k and look it up. He can and has picked up four fouls in five minutes. But, for some reason, KU can't take advantage of his sorry ass post defense.

Somehow our fans have forgotten that Judge averaged nearly 14 MPG in the OOC and got the opportunity to start 6 games while Lou was out.  While I can see some people wishing he has played a few more minutes in some of the Big 12 games, let's not act like Wally hasn't been given a pretty fair shot to bypass Lou, etc. 

And again, Wally is going to be fine and will be a very, very good player here.  And he understands his role on this team much better than a lot of the fanbase based on comments he's made since he's been available to the media.

is BMWjhawk one of our fans now?
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2010, 01:02:55 PM
is BMWjhawk one of our fans now?

Probably the wrong thread to put that in, but we have plenty of fans that don't think Judge has been "developed" or "gotten a fair shot" or whatever.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2010, 01:06:24 PM
I agree, wally got more than enough of a shot, consistantly made the same mistakes, and has had 4 good games this year offensively.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 05, 2010, 01:28:18 PM
Is Wally looking over his shoulder too much . . . you know, one little mistake and I may get yanked?? 

Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: mcmwcat on March 05, 2010, 01:33:35 PM
Is Wally looking over his shoulder too much . . . you know, one little mistake and I may get yanked?? 



clarify 'little mistake'

edit:  most of our players deal with this.
Title: Re: What is Frank's excuse...
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
Is Wally looking over his shoulder too much . . . you know, one little mistake and I may get yanked?? 



no.