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Title: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: CHONGS on December 07, 2011, 09:08:58 PM
Yes the most accurate ranking system is back.  Chingon has forwarded to me his results from his supercomputer ranking system (ChiRP).  It has been 83% against the spread this year.  (Go back and check the predictions).  While controversial it looks like ChiRP agreed with the BCS.


                                                                                                                                               
RankTeamOff PowerDef PowerPower PLUSP Win%
1LSU43.8.8.32.35.5.1.0.
2Alabama37.1.8.78.28.4.0.937.
3Oklahoma State40.2.14.4.25.8.0.915.
4Boise State35.7.12.9.22.8.0.915.
5Stanford42.5.18.6.23.9.0.898.
6Oregon37.9.11.3.26.6.0.869.
7Wisconsin47.0.19.8.27.3.0.844.
8Kansas State38.0.16.9.21.2.0.839.
9Houston35.2.24.3.10.9.0.834.
10South Carolina30.3.16.4.13.9.0.815.
13Arkansas37.7.24.3.13.4.0.789.

I would have stopped at the top ten, but I didn't want our bowl opponent to be left out.

Score predictos a little bit closer to GAME TIME.   :lynchmob:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: puniraptor on December 07, 2011, 09:10:32 PM
Yes the most accurate ranking system is back.  Chingon has forwarded to me his results from his supercomputer ranking system (ChiRP).  It has been 83% against the spread this year.  (Go back and check the predictions).  While controversial it looks like ChiRP agreed with the BCS.

I don't see Michigan or VT in there...
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: kim carnes on December 07, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
 :love:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: EllToPay on December 07, 2011, 09:28:18 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: steve dave on December 07, 2011, 09:32:58 PM
The chirp is the finest rankings system of all time.   :excited:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 07, 2011, 09:39:45 PM
the fact that we have the chirp and that it is exclusive to this website is proof that bsac is putting together a quality place. it's like a major league baseball team and we have a legit #1 wrapped up for the next six years.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: SwiftCat on December 07, 2011, 10:57:40 PM
So blessed etc.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: MarilynKay on December 07, 2011, 11:35:02 PM
Yes the most accurate ranking system is back.  Chingon has forwarded to me his results from his supercomputer ranking system (ChiRP).  It has been 83% against the spread this year.  (Go back and check the predictions).  While controversial it looks like ChiRP agreed with the BCS.




<table class='Output'>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Rank</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Team</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Off Power</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Def Power</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Power PLUS</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>P Win%</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>1</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>LSU</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>43.8.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>8.32.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>35.5.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>1.0.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>2</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Alabama</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>37.1.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>8.78.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>28.4.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.937.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>3</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Oklahoma State</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>40.2.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>14.4.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>25.8.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.915.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>4</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Boise State</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>35.7.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>12.9.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>22.8.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.915.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>5</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Stanford</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>42.5.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>18.6.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>23.9.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.898.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>6</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Oregon</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>37.9.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>11.3.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>26.6.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.869.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>7</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Wisconsin</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>47.0.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>19.8.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>27.3.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.844.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>8</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Kansas State</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>38.0.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>16.9.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>21.2.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.839.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>9</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Houston</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>35.2.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>24.3.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>10.9.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.834.</span></td>

 </tr>

 <tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>10</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>South Carolina</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>30.3.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>16.4.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>13.9.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.815.</span></td>

 </tr>

<tr style='vertical-align: baseline;'>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>13</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>Arkansas</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>37.7.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>24.3.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>13.4.</span></td>

  <td style='text-align: left;'><span>0.789.</span></td>

 </tr>

</table>


I would have stopped at the top ten, but I didn't want our bowl opponent to be left out.

Score predictos a little bit closer to GAME TIME.   :lynchmob:

hmmm....interesting.  Especially since Arkansas played S.C. this year and won 44 to 28.  Interesting indeed.

And since this ranking system is proprietary to this particular site, I think I'll just wait and see.  After all, that's the only way anyone will truly know just how much better Arkansas is vs. Kansas.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: AbeFroman on December 07, 2011, 11:45:12 PM
oh man this thread might get to 200 pages. ChiRP is going to blow methpigaggie minds
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: SwiftCat on December 07, 2011, 11:54:53 PM
Just do a search of the chiRP and you will see just how real it is. It's the best thing to come out of this site since the Ain't No Seats thread.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: AbeFroman on December 08, 2011, 12:00:50 AM
oh man this thread might get to 200 pages. ChiRP is going to blow methpigaggie minds

So you admit it's purposely made up. Not only that but you relish the fact all you guys do is lie and make crap up while trying to pass it off as fact. No wonder no one gives your MB any credibility.

Don't be a dumbass. It is real, it has a formula, it has merit. It's just controversial, much like every other poll in college football
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 08, 2011, 12:03:27 AM
Yet another thing made up on this board. And the lies just keep coming....

why do you think it is made up? it's not. you can search it. any computer generated statistical system like this is going to have some people that like it and some people that don't. juse because you don't doesn't mean that it is made up. sorry friend.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: MarilynKay on December 08, 2011, 12:06:34 AM
oh man this thread might get to 200 pages. ChiRP is going to blow methpigaggie minds

So you admit it's purposely made up. Not only that but you relish the fact all you guys do is lie and make crap up while trying to pass it off as fact. No wonder no one gives your MB any credibility.

Don't be a dumbass. It is real, it has a formula, it has merit. It's just controversial, much like every other poll in college football

and of course, explaining the formula would jeopardize the merit.  Kind of like when you ask your insurance company to explain how they calculate mod factors and reimbursement rates.

Is this ranking system copy written?  What sort of algorithm is utilized?  What stats are used?  

Oh, wait--I'm just a girl, I couldn't possibly understand football--much less the complexity of your rating system :rolleyes: :angry:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: SwiftCat on December 08, 2011, 12:11:28 AM
Just ask Chingon, he's the creator. Best guess is that he doesn't give out trade secrets to opposing team fans.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: MarilynKay on December 08, 2011, 12:14:13 AM
Just ask Chingon, he's the creator. Best guess is that he doesn't give out trade secrets to opposing team fans.

How is rankings calculations "trade secrets"?  Unless of course there are shenanigans in the way the rankings are calculated...
No!  You guys (and girls I guess) would never, ever engage in shenanigans! :fatty:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: theymightbegiants on December 08, 2011, 12:14:38 AM
oh man this thread might get to 200 pages. ChiRP is going to blow methpigaggie minds

So you admit it's purposely made up. Not only that but you relish the fact all you guys do is lie and make crap up while trying to pass it off as fact. No wonder no one gives your MB any credibility.

Don't be a dumbass. It is real, it has a formula, it has merit. It's just controversial, much like every other poll in college football

and of course, explaining the formula would jeopardize the merit.  Kind of like when you ask your insurance company to explain how they calculate mod factors and reimbursement rates.

Is this ranking system copy written?  What sort of algorithm is utilized?  What stats are used?  

Oh, wait--I'm just a girl, I couldn't possibly understand football--much less the complexity of your rating system :rolleyes: :angry:
I was a hater too when I first joined the site. Sometimes it would pick the cats to lose and I would call BS. After a while I took a look and it is scary close at predicting the correct score.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 08, 2011, 12:14:53 AM
Yet another thing made up on this board. And the lies just keep coming....

why do you think it is made up? it's not. you can search it. any computer generated statistical system like this is going to have some people that like it and some people that don't. juse because you don't doesn't mean that it is made up. sorry friend.

Made.

Up.

TOTALLY REAL!  :curse:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: MarilynKay on December 08, 2011, 12:17:55 AM
Yet another thing made up on this board. And the lies just keep coming....

why do you think it is made up? it's not. you can search it. any computer generated statistical system like this is going to have some people that like it and some people that don't. juse because you don't doesn't mean that it is made up. sorry friend.

Made.

Up.

TOTALLY REAL!  :curse:

something I found in basic statistics, intro to business law, and working in the insurance industry--all stats can be skewed to support whatever theory/team/results you want to prove or disprove. 

So, I guess--we'll have to wait and see what happens.  Won't we!? :cheers:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: SwiftCat on December 08, 2011, 12:28:18 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14918.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15086.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15309.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15532.0

It really isn't that hard.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: MarilynKay on December 08, 2011, 07:50:19 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14918.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15086.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15309.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15532.0

It really isn't that hard.

Ahhh Hell---no one likes this "chiRP system", until he puts Kstate above Arkansas!

Oh well, like I said--I prefer to wait until the game, then we'll see who the top team is.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: mcmwcat on December 08, 2011, 07:56:29 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: mcmwcat on December 08, 2011, 07:58:00 AM
chings, is Southern Cal eligible for the ChiRP?
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: wes mantooth on December 08, 2011, 08:10:43 AM
Yet another thing made up on this board. And the lies just keep coming....

why do you think it is made up? it's not. you can search it. any computer generated statistical system like this is going to have some people that like it and some people that don't. juse because you don't doesn't mean that it is made up. sorry friend.

Made.

Up.

TOTALLY REAL!  :curse:

something I found in basic statistics, intro to business law, and working in the insurance industry--all stats can be skewed to support whatever theory/team/results you want to prove or disprove. 

So, I guess--we'll have to wait and see what happens.  Won't we!? :cheers:

Marilyn totally big timing us selling insurance.  It's time to give up the fight guys.  :cry:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 08, 2011, 08:20:47 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14942.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14942.0)

This was an impressive week for ChiRP.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: MarilynKay on December 08, 2011, 10:22:07 AM
Yet another thing made up on this board. And the lies just keep coming....

why do you think it is made up? it's not. you can search it. any computer generated statistical system like this is going to have some people that like it and some people that don't. juse because you don't doesn't mean that it is made up. sorry friend.

Made.

Up.

TOTALLY REAL!  :curse:

something I found in basic statistics, intro to business law, and working in the insurance industry--all stats can be skewed to support whatever theory/team/results you want to prove or disprove. 

So, I guess--we'll have to wait and see what happens.  Won't we!? :cheers:

Marilyn totally big timing us selling insurance.  It's time to give up the fight guys.  :cry:

 :excited: :drool:
No, I didn't, don't and won't sell insurance.  I have a hard time lying to people...not salesperson material.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 08, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Man, we really cried wolf as a website huh guys.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: _33 on December 08, 2011, 11:01:27 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=14918.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15086.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15309.0

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=15532.0

It really isn't that hard.

Ahhh Hell---no one likes this "chiRP system", until he puts Kstate above Arkansas!

Oh well, like I said--I prefer to wait until the game, then we'll see who the top team is.

Well, imo the ChiRP takes precedent over the actual games. So even if you were to win it wouldn't be valid in my mind.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: MarilynKay on December 08, 2011, 11:05:20 AM

Well, imo the ChiRP takes precedent over the actual games. So even if you were to win it wouldn't be valid in my mind.

 :dunno: :facepalm:

well, ooookay then!! :grin:

Bless your little heart
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: _33 on December 08, 2011, 11:09:31 AM

Well, imo the ChiRP takes precedent over the actual games. So even if you were to win it wouldn't be valid in my mind.

 :dunno: :facepalm:

well, ooookay then!! :grin:

Bless your little heart

Wow, this isn't hard to understand. Huge upsets happen all the time. K-State has proven to be the far superior team all season long, and if somehow Arkansas manages to pull the upset it doesn't mean they are the better team. No one will claim ISU is better than OSU but they got lucky and beat them. This game is pretty much like that matchup in my mind.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: AST on December 08, 2011, 03:25:28 PM
the formulas to 5 out of 6 BCS formulas are not known to the public, or the BCS for that matter.  This is Chingons baby, and soon it will be used in the BCS so our cats do not get snubbed anymore.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: bakerman on December 08, 2011, 03:41:01 PM
Chingon is a world renowned physicist. It's complex, but exceptionally accurate. 
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: ChiComCat on December 08, 2011, 03:46:08 PM
the formulas to 5 out of 6 BCS formulas are not known to the public, or the BCS for that matter.  This is Chingons baby, and soon it will be used in the BCS so our cats do not get snubbed anymore.

Most the BCS computers love us just as much as ChiRP or more
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: EllToPay on December 08, 2011, 03:50:49 PM

Well, imo the ChiRP takes precedent over the actual games. So even if you were to win it wouldn't be valid in my mind.

 :dunno: :facepalm:

well, ooookay then!! :grin:

Bless your little heart

Look, we don't like the ChiRP as much as you. We sprung a few upsets when the ChiRP had us losing. It felt great, and maybe you'll get to feel that way too if you pull the upset. But just take a look at the numbers and let us know what you disagree with. When you sit down and actually give it some thought, it's pretty tough to argue.

Damn you, ChiRP.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 08, 2011, 03:57:59 PM
the formulas to 5 out of 6 BCS formulas are not known to the public, or the BCS for that matter.  This is Chingons baby, and soon it will be used in the BCS so our cats do not get snubbed anymore.

Most the BCS computers love us just as much as ChiRP or more

True, its the coaches that don't watch the games that have kept Arky above us in the BCS. Non-bias computers adore the cats.  Less Miles basically kept OSU out of the Championship game by ranking us 17th, just enough to force OSU down .006 points.
Title: Re: ChiRP PreBowl Ranking
Post by: Kornheiser on December 08, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
Yet another thing made up on this board. And the lies just keep coming....

why do you think it is made up? it's not. you can search it. any computer generated statistical system like this is going to have some people that like it and some people that don't. juse because you don't doesn't mean that it is made up. sorry friend.

Made.

Up.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0H1wJ.png&hash=715f9b7a0ded484435a745e601e2b6839dcc5e92)